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Keyne
March 15th, 2011, 06:07 PM
Like the title says, give'em to me. Make me rich. :3

willyvereb
March 15th, 2011, 06:09 PM
I'm actually thinking about a ToAru/Nasuverse crossover.
It would start with Touma participating in the Grail War and messing shit up.

Keyne
March 15th, 2011, 06:11 PM
Shirou: I want to be a hero!
Touma: I will shatter that illusion with this fist of mine!
*epic battle ensues*

ItsaRandomUsername
March 15th, 2011, 06:13 PM
I'm actually thinking about a ToAru/Nasuverse crossover.
It would start with Touma participating in the Grail War and messing shit up.


Would he even be able to supposr ta Servant? You know, Imagine Breaker and all that.

Plus those mana recharges would end up killing the Servant... :P

I personally suggest that instead of going the Holy Grail War route you instead work on combining the elements together.

Keyne
March 15th, 2011, 06:19 PM
But think of it! The power of the BAR/Avalon versus the power of the PUNCH/Touma's charm!

Theocrass
March 15th, 2011, 06:20 PM
A Holy Grail War where everyone is Shirou! And by that I mean all Servants are future variations of Shirou.

Saber: Mind of Steel Shirou
Archer: EMIYA
Lancer: Shirou who grew up with Rin and who's even better at analyzing things. Devoted track athlete in life. (It's better than it sounds)
Rider: Televangelist K Shirou :3
Caster: Would be based on Emiya Kirika
Berserker: Would basically be Emilya
Assassin: A Shirou raised by one of Kirei's Assassins from the 4th War. Instead of Gilgamesh, that Assassin would have been granted a body by taking in the corruption of the Grail.

I'm still working out in my head and on paper what each of their skill sets would be as well as why they would have those skill sets. Assassin has me the most confounded.

ItsaRandomUsername
March 15th, 2011, 06:21 PM
Shirou: I want to be a hero!
Touma: I will shatter that illusion with this fist of mine!
*epic battle ensues*

Swords get PAWNCHED
Avalon gets nulled.
...the become bros afterwards, naturally.

Erlkonig
March 15th, 2011, 06:22 PM
a holy grail war where everyone is shirou! And by that i mean all servants are future variations of shirou.

Saber: Mind of steel shirou
archer: Emiya
lancer: Shirou who grew up with rin and who's even better at analyzing things. Devoted track athlete in life. (it's better than it sounds)
rider: Televangelist k shirou :3
caster: Would be based on emiya kirika
berserker: Would basically be emilya
assassin: A shirou raised by one of kirei's assassins from the 4th war. Instead of gilgamesh, that assassin would have been granted a body by taking in the corruption of the grail.

I'm still working out in my head and on paper what each of their skill sets would be as well as why they would have those skill sets. Assassin has me the most confounded.

Fund it. HARD. TAKE ALL OF MY MONEY. The Shirou Grail Wars will be GLORIOUS. But full of boneheads though. "Magical recharging? Wot"

willyvereb
March 15th, 2011, 06:24 PM
Would he even be able to supposr ta Servant? You know, Imagine Breaker and all that.

Plus those mana recharges would end up killing the Servant... :P

I personally suggest that instead of going the Holy Grail War route you instead work on combining the elements together.
Well, I didn't think he would support a Servant. More like being sent to investigate this weird event and act as a back-up for the Anglican Church's master.

Also I am going to tweak a few things about the Servants and the Nasuverse in general. Same for ToAru of course.

Erlkonig
March 15th, 2011, 06:28 PM
I'm actually thinking about a ToAru/Nasuverse crossover.
It would start with Touma participating in the Grail War and messing shit up.

Touma: *Insert long and tedious speech*
Gilgamesh: ARGH! I've had enough of you, mongrel! ENUMA ELISH-
Touma: *Dispels the blast with his IB*
Gilgamesh: ...!?
Touma: *Punches him and destroys the super-naturally made body that Gilgamesh possessed, alongside his Spirit form*
Gilgamesh: D-damn you...! *Vanishes*

------

-HF-
Touma: *Touches the Great Grail*
Angra Mainyu: *Explodes*
Zouken: FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUU

willyvereb
March 15th, 2011, 06:31 PM
Indeed, that's exactly why I wish Touma to be present. He's the ultimate spanner in the works.
Don't worry I plan more than just a simple Grail War. It will escalate to something greater.
If you read the Novels then the World War III plot sounds familiar, right? Well, I plan to make it even more messy with various TypeMOON entities around.

Keyne
March 15th, 2011, 06:32 PM
Touma: *Insert long and tedious speech*
Gilgamesh: ARGH! I've had enough of you, mongrel! ENUMA ELISH-
Touma: *Dispels the blast with his IB*
Gilgamesh: ...!?
Touma: *Punches him and destroys the super-naturally made body that Gilgamesh possessed, alongside his Spirit form*
Gilgamesh: D-damn you...! *Vanishes*

------

-HF-
Touma: *Touches the Great Grail*
Angra Mainyu: *Explodes*
Zouken: FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUU

Later:
Touma: *standing in front of the remanants of the Grail* Fuh~~*sighs*
????: *from behind* Touma!
Touma: *sudden shock* ...ah.. *looks behind with a strange smile on his face* ...
*CHOMP!*

Erlkonig
March 15th, 2011, 06:32 PM
Later:
Touma: *standing in front of the remanants of the Grail* Fuh~~*sighs*
????: *from behind* Touma!
Touma: *sudden shock* ...ah.. *looks behind with a strange smile on his face* ...
*CHOMP!*

Freaking Headcrabs...

Keyne
March 15th, 2011, 06:43 PM
Freaking Headcrabs...

Imouto: *appears* "The magical entity called the Holy Grail has be destroyed." says MISAKA and confirms the situation.
*looks at Touma with Index biting into his head*
Imouto: "Freaking headcrabs." says MISAKA in a mocking tone. *grins* Haha...haha....

willyvereb
March 15th, 2011, 06:46 PM
Anyways, my worst dilemma is probably integrating the Nasuverse mages into the system of ToAru. Namely: every magician belongs to some kind of Christian religious group by default.
Rin is an easy pick. She can be either part of the Amakusa Church or Neccessarius. But some mages like Araya are tough to categorize that way. Religions outside the catholic has little importance in ToAru.

Keyne
March 15th, 2011, 06:49 PM
The MA is enough for an organization. It doesn't have to be connected with the Church, if not only by antagonism.

willyvereb
March 15th, 2011, 06:53 PM
Well, that's an option. But that would violate one of the basic settings of the ToAru verse. Contrary to the situation in the Nasuverse, the ToAru church propagates magic and the mayor sponsor of any magic activity. Hell, most ToAru spells are based on religious legends and alike.Even if not, the ToAru style magic is always connected to the history.

ItsaRandomUsername
March 15th, 2011, 06:54 PM
The MISAKA-arc in Season 1 made me B'AAWWWW.

They're a personal favorite of mine.
"A cat...named Dog. Heheheh."

Keyne
March 15th, 2011, 06:57 PM
I love Misaka-Imouto. They're great, especially #10032. :3 Last Order is also a great character. I'm just disappoint that the Sisters get so little screentime. :[

Elf
March 16th, 2011, 10:32 PM
The Hound and the Blacksmith

This idea keeps bugging me, and I just might have to write it to get away from the GRIMDARK of Steel and Cherry Blossoms.

Basically, its the Lancer/Archer buddy cop movie.

It's going to be action pact, violent, full of one liners, two bad ass guys a couple of feme fatals, some sex, and a whole lot of shit getting blown up. It's an 80's action movie, Type-Moon Style. Or maybe more like Black Lagoon but with Fate Characters. It will be unapologetically violent and break many Nasuverse rules probably.

So it's after some version of the Grail War that was more Heaven's Feel than UBW or Fate. Mainly Shirou is with Sakura. However Archer played a huge part in saving Sakura and they've became really close, like brother and sister sort of close. Not to mention because Sakura and Rin's relationship is repairing nicely, Sakura wants to see her Nee-san as happy as she is.

Anyway, when Ilya brought back Shirou, Archer was piggy-backed into reality as well. (I just need to figure out a way to get Lancer back.)

So anyway, Rin suggests, so they can make money, that Lancer and Archer start a sort of troubleshooting agency to handle things the Magus Association and the Church can't handle.

Sakura's their Gal Friday.

Rider occasionally joins them in missions.

Shirou is told to stay in the kitchen.

The stories would be rather episodic and anthology like with their character development carrying on from each story as well as "power ups".

Tobias
March 16th, 2011, 10:37 PM
The MISAKA-arc in Season 1 made me B'AAWWWW.

They're a personal favorite of mine.
"A cat...named Dog. Heheheh."

That line was hilarious.

eddyak
March 16th, 2011, 10:45 PM
Shirou is told to stay in the kitchen.
This made me laugh.

Shirou: "But I wanna be a heroooooo!" *stamps foot*
Archer: "Not until you finish the washing up! Now get back in that kitchen!"
Lancer: "Dude, that's pretty mean. What about when he's done?"
Archer: "Rin has laundry, Taiga's hungry and Sakura's biological clock should be ticking over in a few minutes."
Lancer: "Lol k, let's bounce."
*both put on shades and drive off in '80s lowrider*

Mike1984
March 16th, 2011, 10:49 PM
Heh, lol.

Elf
March 16th, 2011, 11:01 PM
This made me laugh.

Shirou: "But I wanna be a heroooooo!" *stamps foot*
Archer: "Not until you finish the washing up! Now get back in that kitchen!"
Lancer: "Dude, that's pretty mean. What about when he's done?"
Archer: "Rin has laundry, Taiga's hungry and Sakura's biological clock should be ticking over in a few minutes."
Lancer: "Lol k, let's bounce."
*both put on shades and drive off in '80s lowrider*

Archer insists on driving, Lancer bitches about Archer driving too slow . . .

Lancer getting more pipe laid than a plumber and him trying to hook Archer up . . .

ItsaRandomUsername
March 17th, 2011, 12:53 AM
This needs to be written, NAOW! Especially since I'm on a cop-movie rush!

keeper13
March 17th, 2011, 11:20 AM
AU Fate/zero idea:

Tokiomi Tohsaka wants to summon Gilgamesh, but ... what happens if he summon THIS Gilgamesh instead!(the Final Fantasy one; guy in red, multiple arms and swords (about eight of them), and now voiced by Kazuya Nakai in Dissidia 012):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49ck7A3LbIQ

Tokiomi will go all disappointed that he's not the kind of Gilgamesh he's looking forward to meet or that he's not strong enough. Then he goes, "HEY, YOU'RE NOT BARTZ! BUT OH WELL, WHO'S MY NEW CHALLENGER TODAY?!"

Hilarity ensure, including Gilgamesh's personality and annoyance increase Tokiomi's headache and stress level, Kotomine and other Masters and Servants going WTF when it comes to meeting or battle with Gilgamesh, getting along with Alexander then goes all "WHO'S THE BEST" EPIC BATTLE, and OF COURSE, GILGAMESH BREAKING THE FOURTH WALL!

willyvereb
March 17th, 2011, 11:53 AM
FF-Gilgamesh vs Iskander?
Ham to Ham combat ensures!

keeper13
March 17th, 2011, 01:37 PM
FF-Gilgamesh vs Iskander?
Ham to Ham combat ensures!

YES INDEED! XD LOL!

Keyne
March 17th, 2011, 01:44 PM
Ham means meat, "meat" means innuendo. D:

Kotonoha
March 17th, 2011, 01:48 PM
No, that'd be Shiki and Len.

Change my trajectory and... ham! Ham! Hamhamhamhamham!

eddyak
March 17th, 2011, 01:51 PM
No, that'd be Shiki and Len.

Change my trajectory and... ham! Ham! Hamhamhamhamham!
Playing that after knowing Len was the cat, I laughed as I imagined the cat turning back into Len, giving Shiki a "what are you, an idiot?" look, and walking off.

keeper13
March 17th, 2011, 09:02 PM
here's an idea:

Either any FSN or FZ or FExtra or original character, summons Date Masamune as Servant Rider. And when I mean Date Masamune, yes I mean THIS GUY from Sengoku Basara:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfVmu2Z4A1s&feature=related

Hilary ensure with some action pack, including ENGRISH! BADASS ARMY! EPIC BATTLE! AND MANY OTHER EPICNESS OF DATE MASAMUNE! Wonder what it'll be like if he meets Rider/Alexander...? LOL!

Theocrass
March 17th, 2011, 09:48 PM
Would anyone else be interested in my all Shirou Holy Grail War?

Or is it best left tucked away in the corners of my mind?

Erlkonig
March 17th, 2011, 09:53 PM
I was very interested by it. Did you not notice the FUND IT HARD?

Theocrass
March 17th, 2011, 09:56 PM
I did, but it's an idea that can fall apart very quickly. I simply desire the input of a few others as well.

If I can't do it right, then it won't be much better than a Holy Grail War full of OCs.

Elf
March 17th, 2011, 10:11 PM
This picture is so awesome that it deserves something on its own:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/UmbraElf/awesomecover.jpg

Theocrass
March 17th, 2011, 10:18 PM
I do not understand the significance of the above picture, but laser eyes Kirei is AWESOME!

Erlkonig
March 17th, 2011, 10:18 PM
Indeed.

ttestagr
March 17th, 2011, 10:25 PM
A short fic that has Saber's godly luck stat start working from the very moment of her summoning. Lancer not expecting her to pop up is overextended and can't defend himself or just stop himself from literally charging onto Invisible Air. Followed by Archer eating a sword to the head when he tries to block her attack.

Of course then Rin gets involved, and her abysmal luck starts offsetting that advantage for the team...

Honestly though, I'm thinking of doing a fic where Saber has the good fortune to wipe out two Servants immediately. I'm debating with myself how Rin would respond to that. She won't give up, but I can see her trying to yoke Shirou as her minion since he doesn't have any set goal and he just went a long way to ruining hers. I wanted to say that she could use healing him to get him in her debt, but I just can't see her doing that.

ItsaRandomUsername
March 18th, 2011, 12:33 AM
A Holy Grail War where everyone is Shirou! And by that I mean all Servants are future variations of Shirou.

Saber: Mind of Steel Shirou
Archer: EMIYA
Lancer: Shirou who grew up with Rin and who's even better at analyzing things. Devoted track athlete in life. (It's better than it sounds)
Rider: Televangelist K Shirou :3
Caster: Would be based on Emiya Kirika
Berserker: Would basically be Emilya
Assassin: A Shirou raised by one of Kirei's Assassins from the 4th War. Instead of Gilgamesh, that Assassin would have been granted a body by taking in the corruption of the Grail.

I'm still working out in my head and on paper what each of their skill sets would be as well as why they would have those skill sets. Assassin has me the most confounded.

I like the idea of a Hassan-raised Emiya Shirou as Assassin. I'm getting this mental image of Shirou in a black cloak wearing the trademark Assassin-mask, leaving only his red hair poking out from the top, and I really like it. His variant of Zabaniya should prove to be interesting - I wonder what it would be like? Also, since he would be Assassin, he would still *identify* himself as Hassan, even though he is Shirou...maybe.

Mind of Steel Shirou as a Saber? Huh, would he end up coming across a demonic sword or something during his "hero work"? Does he become skilled with the blade as part of his duties towards humanity? I must find out more...

Hammy K-Shirou as Rider? Oh god, I can only imagine what his mount would be... :p Something fitting for him. And he needs The Book.

Lancer should be fun. Sounds fun.

Berserker...as Emilya? Stone-Sword? I am now oddly frightened.

Twelveseal
March 18th, 2011, 01:01 AM
Hey, Stone-sword Emilya works. Hell, duel-wielding it with Gae Bolg II in my own fic.

As for Hassan Shirou, think of him using telekinetic sword wielding in combination with a martial-arts technique. In other words, his Zabaniya is a technique that involves directing traced swords in conjunction with martial arts techniques derived from Kotomine and Tohsaka. The blades attack in the same directions as his own attack, or flank and attack for indefensible positions simultaneously.

Theocrass
March 18th, 2011, 04:39 AM
Saber's only based on Mind of Steel Shirou. He did many of the same things, but other things were different. The point is that he's the "Hero" version of Shirou.

He's a pretty ruthless bastard though. He's also one of the few Shirou Servants that's a genuine Heroic Spirit.

His Noble Phantasm is a sword that "borrows" the abilities of other NPs he's seen, with one rank reduced. Basically UBW in a single blade. It can mix abilities too. The catch is that Saber can't use UBW.

I plan for him and Archer to have a major go at it.

ItsaRandomUsername
March 18th, 2011, 04:44 AM
UBW as a sword? Heh, cool.

Theocrass
March 18th, 2011, 05:01 AM
Pffft. Emilya will be a tiny loli of rage who dualwields a pair of Caliburns. :3

Actually, I do have something in mind for her, and it doesn't involve UBW too much.

Also, Saber could potentially combine Nine Lives and Excalibur (if his master wasn't Shirou).

ItsaRandomUsername
March 18th, 2011, 05:05 AM
So Saber!Shirou will sort of end up like proto-Saber in terms of badassery, kind of? Balls-to-the-wall awesome.

Berserker Emilya dual-wielding, nice~

Theocrass
March 18th, 2011, 05:07 AM
What do you mean by Proto-Saber?

ItsaRandomUsername
March 18th, 2011, 05:15 AM
Proto-Saber was the Saber originally planned for the original F/SN. He was male, and played the role of a somewhat jaded, badass knight - and was still King Arthur. An Archerlike personality, supposedly (don't quote me on that, though).

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100706182258/typemoon/images/7/7a/Archetype_Saver.png
Take a look at ^this^ guy, now picture all of Saber's battles with HIM doing it. Wicked cool, bro.



However, he and his original Master (Sayjou Ayaka) http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100407220440/typemoon/images/8/8e/Sajyou_Ayaka_CM.pngwere genderswapped and had their personalities changed in order to appeal to the eroge-playing crowd.
Also, there's a fan theory going on that HE would have been the original protagonist if F/SN were not a third-person type of VN - because of how Saber switches "ownership" from Shirou, Rin, and (Dark) Sakura throughout the routes.

Theocrass
March 18th, 2011, 05:20 AM
Thanks for that.

I think Saber's armor will be very similar to that guy's.

Rider's right hand was created using Angra Mainyu and the remnants of Zouken Matou's soul. It became a NP called "Corruption". Corruption twists, warps, and empowers the form, abilities, and purpose of anything it touches according to its master's will.

Should Emilya be loli, or mature enough that there's a noticeable difference between her and Illya?

ItsaRandomUsername
March 18th, 2011, 05:28 AM
Huuuhhh...ermmmmm...uhhhh...

Maybe you should flip a coin on that one. It could work either way.

Zevrand
March 18th, 2011, 06:15 AM
AU

Tokiomi Tohsaka wants to summon Gilgamesh, but ... what happens if he summon THIS Gilgamesh instead!(the Final Fantasy one; guy in red, multiple arms and swords (about eight of them),



"Drown in your ideals and die."
A new world expanded in flames. Everything broke apart and reformed. Archer stood in a wasteland of rust and flame, giant gears creaking in the background. The shattered plane was cratered and pitted, covered in holes.
"Wait, what the hell?"

Fifty miles away and grinning, the other red knight rode off, an absolutely preposterous amount of stolen weaponry secreted on his person.


... anyway, what if Archer actually tried to clue people in ahead of time?


"I'm telling you Rin. I know the guy. And I know that the only thing he can enjoy is evil. Think about it. When did you last see him enjoying music or art or scenic beauty? Or anything but causing people pain?"
"He's just a serious kind of person. I trained under Kotomine, and though he might seem a little off-putting at first, I'm sure he just keeps his public and private lives separate. It's a mark of a superior magus to be able to kill your emotions when necessary."
"Fine. I'll prove it to you."
With that, the red knight whisked Rin off, crossing the city with incredible speed. Buildings wooshed by, until they ended up in the mountains overlooking the church.
"Look, take these binoculars and reinforce your vision. Watch what he's doing."
Rin grabbed the offered instrument and peered through it.
"See, he's just putting out a hummingbird feeder. Like I said, he can appreciate things, but doesn't let it intrude on his professional life. What's so evil about feeding some birds and watching them?"

Archer sighed, exasperated "He's filling it with Splenda."


Or... Kotomine manages to trick and kill Caster's master instead of Bazett. He sets her up in the temple again, because there's nothing like half-removing people's souls to make them miserable. Gilgamesh, acting on his own initiative, tries to get her to summon Saber, since why the hell not?

(Un)fortunately, a servant can't summon a real servant. She gets the imperfect, and very male, Legend of King Arthur instead of Saber.

Kieran
March 18th, 2011, 07:38 AM
This idea was one of Burnout's, as I recall, and it always appealed to me:


A cataclysmiic event causes several universes to fragment, leaving only a few survivors. These are gathered by some great force, and told that their universe can be restored - but only one of them. To determine the deserving one, they'll have to fight it out, tournament-style.


He originally intended it for the various OCs and second-gen characters we had around the Lair - but I think you could use it for some of the various routes, too. Saber Alter of Heaven's Feel versus the original in Fate, for example. I'm half-tempted to use it as the plotline of "After the Fall" . . .

anamesis
March 18th, 2011, 08:29 AM
ignoring the fact that i dont continue things >>;;

Shards of Paradise

Instead of a normal end to life, when one reaches the pearly gates, they are given a choice. Snuff it like a normal person, or return for a single non-negotiable purpose that is not stated until after it is accepted. Failure is not an option, spontanious combustion is to be expected. All is forfeit.

On that day...Emiya Shirou chose to not die when he was killed...?


your mission: Be A Father.



Shirou: whut?

*insert battle over who is the mother*

willyvereb
March 18th, 2011, 08:31 AM
I think someone already suggested it in the past but I still have to mention:
Neon Genesis Evangelion: Matou Edition

Shinji Ikari replaced by Shinji Matou to pilot Evangelion Unit 01. What's gonna happen? Does Matou manage to fit in or end up in complete failure? Hilarity ensures.
As an omake some episodes of Shinji Ikari living as a Matou member should be included. Awkward moments are sure guaranteed!

eddyak
March 18th, 2011, 10:21 AM
It's been suggested before (I think I was the one who suggested it, actually), but Harry Dresden gets dragged into the Holy Grail War.

Hilarity and awesome ensues.

giodan
March 18th, 2011, 10:24 AM
hello! i'm giodan from italy!

i think there is something who is missing! a luvia rotue!!!! here my two ideas:

shirou- so you do konw my father?

luvia- yes, he salvend my life but he don't won't any rewart from my family so when i told him i MUST do something for repay him, he sow me a phot of a young boy and asked me "he is my son how about become his girl one day?"

shirou- ------------------WHAT???? you don't mean.....

luvia- i'm here to become your woman to repay my debit whit him!

shirou-ah..............


or make luvia the frist penson salved by emya shirou!

Keyne
March 18th, 2011, 01:29 PM
"Oh, it's getting windy" *sees Sakura standing in the rain, watching us from the other side of the street* "Sakura?" *suddenly a truck passes... and she was gone* "...." *closes the window*
Saber: This cheese cake is delicious, Shirou. *smiles*
Shirou: Ah, we don't have such luxuries at home, don't we?
Saber: *gulps* It fits perfectly with this black tea. The aromas blend do delicately and leave you a honey-like aftertaste on your tongue.
Shirou: *chuckles* That's... a nice way to put it.
Rin: You're lucky that today is my treat! *humphs*
*pats Tohsaka on the head* Yeah, you're magnificent, Tohsaka. Now, try some of this cake. *takes a fork, slices some of the cheese cake, and attempts to feed Rin*
Rin: W-what are you.. Mghnn~~ *gets a mouthful of the cake*
*slowly slides out the fork from her mouth* There. Was it delicious? *looks her in the eyes*
Rin: *blushes* Yeah. N-next time inform me... baka...
Saber and Shirou: *smile at us*

Shirou x Saber and Keyne (OC) x Rin at a cafe. I kinda like this idea. Also, Rin being deredere for Keyne. ^u^

Mike1984
March 18th, 2011, 01:31 PM
Well, as long as it's immediately followed by Rin getting Tsun-tsun with Keyne, and smacking her one, I think it's good... :p

ItsaRandomUsername
March 18th, 2011, 01:33 PM
^
Haters gonna hate?

Mike1984
March 18th, 2011, 01:34 PM
Nah, more "annoyed Sakura fans gonna hate"....

Keyne
March 18th, 2011, 01:35 PM
Mike, you were in that truck and kidnapped poor-poor Sakura. ;C; How could you?!

Mike1984
March 18th, 2011, 01:37 PM
Well, if I did indeed kidnap Sakura, I'm sure it was for her own good, so I'm not apologising for anything... :p

ItsaRandomUsername
March 18th, 2011, 01:37 PM
She just wanted to be with her Senpai, Mike... ;C;

Keyne
March 18th, 2011, 01:38 PM
And you kidnapped her! ;C; YOU MONSTER!

Mike1984
March 18th, 2011, 01:45 PM
She just wanted to be with her Senpai, Mike... ;C;

Well, I'll take her back to her Sempai when I've finished doing whatever I'm intending to do to free her from Zouken's control :p

Keyne
March 18th, 2011, 01:47 PM
Well, I'll take her back to her Sempai when I've finished doing whatever I'm intending to do to free her from Zouken's control :p

The police are already on your tail. >:| You dirty kidnapper, you.

ItsaRandomUsername
March 18th, 2011, 01:55 PM
And thus, the sad tale ended with Mike being captured buy the local law enforcement and sent off to jail while awaiting trial in a foreign country.

He cursed authority all the way, saying they were denying him his chance to save an innocent. The simply mumbled something about radicals and thre him in the paddy wagon.

Sakura, now freed from her kidnapper's clutches got to have her tea with Rin, Saber, Shirou, Keyne, and Illya (who snuck away from Taiga's place to join the fun)
HAPPY END

Keyne
March 18th, 2011, 02:02 PM
;~; Marvellous.

EnigmaticFellow
March 18th, 2011, 05:52 PM
I remember that we were discussing about Bazzett summoning Archer instead of Lancer before BL was offline. What do you guys still think of that idea?

ItsaRandomUsername
March 18th, 2011, 05:55 PM
Elf proposed that one, IIRC. I thing I said I would FUND THAT HARD.

Keyne
March 18th, 2011, 05:55 PM
Elf would FUND ANYTHING HARD if Archer gets laid. :3

EnigmaticFellow
March 18th, 2011, 05:56 PM
So would I IRUN. Just seeing Bazzett's reaction to the summoning should be priceless. In addition, she wouldn't fall to Kirie; thus, we have another interesting Noble Phantasm thrown into the mix.

Theocrass
March 18th, 2011, 08:21 PM
I remember that we were discussing about Bazzett summoning Archer instead of Lancer before BL was offline. What do you guys still think of that idea?

Hilarious.

And I mean that in a good way. As in imagine Bazett's face. :'3

Elf
March 18th, 2011, 09:18 PM
I remember that we were discussing about Bazzett summoning Archer instead of Lancer before BL was offline. What do you guys still think of that idea?

Well, since I was the one who came up with that idea, yes. :)

Bazett wanted to save Lancer, but Lancer didn't need/want to be saved. He just wanted to fight some more. However, Archer, in his heart of hearts, does want to be taken out of his hell. It gives both Archer and Bazett someone to save.

Not to mention, Archer and Bazett could be really cute if written correctly.

Erlkonig
March 19th, 2011, 04:45 PM
How about... Emiya Shirou in the Age of the Gods!?

Theocrass
March 19th, 2011, 06:28 PM
^ Shirou+Berserker broness?

Do want?

Erlkonig
March 19th, 2011, 06:30 PM
Tracing the Golden Fleece, Hermes' Boots, Achilles' Shield, Nine Lives (Hercules' bow), and Zeus' lightning.

COME AT ME BRO

Garlak
March 19th, 2011, 06:33 PM
Tracing the Golden Fleece, Hermes' Boots, Achilles' Shield, Nine Lives (Hercules' bow), and Zeus' lightning.

COME AT ME BRO

Nine Lives wasn't Hercules' bow -- it was his Phantasmal Beast-slaying style of combat. However, he first used it with his bow, so I'm guessing you mean Shirou's tracing his bow, acquiring Hercules' strength, and using Nine Lives: Shooting Hundred Heads with it.

Except instead of arrows or even Broken Phantasms, he's shooting traced versions of Zeus' lightning bolts...

You probably can't trace lightning bolts, but who the hell cares, we're doing this for the awesome!


... Who's he going after, though? Freaking Kratos or something?

Theocrass
March 19th, 2011, 06:35 PM
Kratos is lame. :P

He's going after to Gaia, right after he finishes busting open the Throne of Heroes.

ItsaRandomUsername
March 19th, 2011, 06:35 PM
Going beyond the impossible?!

Theocrass
March 19th, 2011, 06:46 PM
YOU KNOW IT!

And when he's done with that, he's going to settle in for an evening with a physical (and very feminine) manifestation of Alaya.

ItsaRandomUsername
March 19th, 2011, 06:52 PM
NAIIIISSSUUUU~


Archer would be jelly.

Erlkonig
March 19th, 2011, 06:55 PM
>LIGHTNING BOLT HYPERSONIC MACHINE-GUN

http://gamersmafia.com/storage/comments/547/47/maximum_trolling.jpg

Theocrass
March 19th, 2011, 07:04 PM
Archer? Did I mention that when he busts open the Throne of Heroes, all heroes (past/present/future) will be released into the world? :D

Erlkonig
March 19th, 2011, 07:09 PM
Emiya Shirou faced the Hundred-headed Hydra snarling at him. He would win against this beast. He had to. The firing hammer in his head goes off. He vizualizes it in his mind. The tongues of flame close in on him, but in an instant, a golden artifact is worn by his body. The flames pass by him, unable to touch him. In another instant, his footwear is replaced by winged boots. On his left arm a long, composite bow appears. And now, the most difficult component. His right arm starts crackling. A natural phenomena, he divides it into eight parts. Even something like this can be copied in this age...!

In his right arm, a lightning bolt appears, crackling with divine energy. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBBBGGvrz0Y) The Hydra stumbles back in fear of the divine mystery in the boy's hand. From the Olympus, the Gods stare in awe. "Set." Mutters the boy. He places the lightning bolt in the bow, and immediately it glows with amazing power. He creates the final component, as his body feels lighter than ever. "Shooting Hundred Heads-"

100 heads. 100 shoots it would take. He'd shoot those heads at the same time. The Hydra quickly recovered, and prepared to once again blow fire---!

Time stopped. Shirou aimed with the bow, and fired. One after another, in a flash of blinding light, a hundred lightning bolts shot out, piercing each and every head of the Hydra, destroying the rocky terrain that was the Hydra's lair behind it, the lightning continuing forth until it pierced the skies themselves. As the Hydra falls, dead, the boy finishes the name of his technique.

"-Divine Blade Works."

The Gods stare in silence at the boy. Zeus falls from his chair as he looks at the boy's image.

What kind of monster has been summoned into the world!?

ItsaRandomUsername
March 19th, 2011, 07:18 PM
All of a sudden, this idea just became insanely awesome.

And a zerg-rush of heroes old and new? Count me in.

food
March 19th, 2011, 07:27 PM
Archer? Did I mention that when he busts open the Throne of Heroes, all heroes (past/present/future) will be released into the world? :D
I wanna be the very best

Like no one ever was

To catch them is my real test

To train them is my cause

I will travel across the land

Searching far and wide

Teach Pokemon to understand

The power that's inside

Pokemon!

Gotta catch 'em all--

It's you and me

I know it's my destiny

Pokemon!

Ooooh, you're my best friend

In a world we must defend

Pokemon!

Gotta catch 'em all--

Our hearts so true

Our courage will pull us through

You teach me and I'll teach you

Pokemon!

Gotta catch 'em all!

Gotta catch 'em all!

MrTags
March 19th, 2011, 07:38 PM
I'd always wanted to do in Scions a scene where Jester Summons the Thrones to fight the entire Imperial Army.

But to my dismay Kieran backed out and oh well... darn.

EnigmaticFellow
March 19th, 2011, 08:32 PM
After Shirou breaks open the Throne of Heroes, Gilgamesh decimates all of the Olympians and becomes the antagonist. So guys, how awesome would a fight between age-of-gods Shirou be with a serious Gilgamesh?

Erlkonig
March 19th, 2011, 10:24 PM
Gate of Babylon versus homing lightning bolt machine-gun barrages? Enuma Elish vs The Golden Fleece and Poseidon's Trident?

FUND IT HARD

ItsaRandomUsername
March 19th, 2011, 10:34 PM
At this rate, Age-of-Gods!Shirou will become a Heroic Spirit by his own power.

He'd have been "The Faker" or some other suitable nickname due to his power that allowed him to copy any weapon he ever saw.
CG EMIYA would get curbstomped SO fast his head would spin.

Erlkonig
March 19th, 2011, 10:36 PM
At this rate, Age-of-Gods!Shirou will become a Heroic Spirit by his own power.

He'd have been "The Faker" or some other suitable nickname due to his power that allowed him to copy any weapon he ever saw.
CG EMIYA would get curbstomped SO fast his head would spin.

His trademark lines would be...

"With this ability...!" Extends his right arm.

"Even a god's power...!" Lightning crackles on his hand.

"...Can be copied by me!!!" A lightning bolt materializes on his right hand.

EnigmaticFellow
March 19th, 2011, 10:53 PM
Age-of-god Shirou would be able to even trace divine weapons such as Ea and Excalibur. Meanwhile, a serious Gilgamesh would still have more options than just swords or even weapons. He has access to Vimana, nuclear warheads, and even a mind reading device, and this is just the tip of the iceburg. Good luck beating this guy unless UBW is deployed.

ItsaRandomUsername
March 19th, 2011, 10:58 PM
Nukes? When was this? o__o

eddyak
March 19th, 2011, 11:00 PM
Ancient tales about Vimana being powered by nuclear reactors, and having nuclear weapons. Not sure if Nasu's actually put nukes on Vimana, though.

ItsaRandomUsername
March 19th, 2011, 11:03 PM
Yeah, the Nasuversian Vimana. I remember reading that the Hindu-mythical Vimana had a nuke-like weapon.


Wait...Heroic Spirit Rama of the Ramayana. EPICNESS ENSUES.

Erlkonig
March 19th, 2011, 11:06 PM
Age-of-god Shirou would be able to even trace divine weapons such as Ea and Excalibur. Meanwhile, a serious Gilgamesh would still have more options than just swords or even weapons. He has access to Vimana, nuclear warheads, and even a mind reading device, and this is just the tip of the iceburg. Good luck beating this guy unless UBW is deployed.


"I am the bone of my sword,
Steel is my body, and fire is my blood.
I have slayed over a thousand beasts.
Unaware of peace,
Nor aware of order.
Have withstood trials to create many miracles.
I will regret nothing. I carved this path with my own two hands.
For all eternity, UNLIMITED BLADE WORKS!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBBBGGvrz0Y)

Fire. Fire circled the horizon, sacred flames crackling with divine energy. On the sky, golden gears endlessly turned, as the sound of a hammer continuously smashing against metal and molten steel resounded through the air. A giant, glowing humanoid shape was seen in the distance, eternally forging weapons on an obsidian anvil, dropping them from the sky, as they buried themselves on the ground. The ground was a desert of shining sand, the place exhuding amazing amounts of prana. The armoured form of Emiya Shirou glared at the Golden King.

"This is my Reality Marble, my world. Formed after over a thousand battles against divine beings, otherwordly demons, and nightmarish beasts, I have carved my own fate with this world. Infinite Possibilities, infinite swords are continuously forged in these place. In here, even a god's power can be imitated by me." Lightning appears in his right hand, as a trident appears on his left, and hellish wings burst out of his back. "Here I come, King of Heroes. Do you have enough weapons at hand?"

Gilgamesh stares seriously at the boy. "At last..." Gilgamesh smirks. "A worthy opponent!" He draws Ea.

"GIIILGAMEEEEEEEEEEEESH!!!" Emiya Shirou leaps at the Golden King, as the battle to decide the fate of the world shall be decided in this fight worthy of Gods...!

lethum
March 19th, 2011, 11:10 PM
Mental Typo: Age of the Fonz!Shiro.

...

Yeah, I thought it was weird, too.

Erlkonig
March 19th, 2011, 11:45 PM
At this rate, Age-of-Gods!Shirou will become a Heroic Spirit by his own power.

He'd have been "The Faker" or some other suitable nickname due to his power that allowed him to copy any weapon he ever saw.
CG EMIYA would get curbstomped SO fast his head would spin.

EMIYA stared at the man before him. This couldn't be... What was he? "Who... are you?"

SHIROU smirked. "I am Servant Saber, Shirou Emiya. I come from the Age of the Gods. Do you think you can match me, Counter Guardian?"

EMIYA immediately growled, as he projected Kanshou and Bakuya. As he leaped at SHIROU, the Heroic Spirit murmured a few words he was not capable of understanding. His eyes widened. It couldn't be---!

Dozens of blades of wind tore the ground where he had been before into pieces. He turned to look at SHIROU, but the Hero had already come at him, attacking him with the same blades he had. No, this were not equal to his. SHIROU had perfected tracing, the weapons remained of the same rank as they had been before. His quickly shattered under the strain. "How... To perfect illusions... It's like altering the world!" SHIROU smirked. "The Age of the Gods is a wonder, isn't it, EMIYA...!"

Under the night sky, two sides of the same coin clashed against each other. One who had fought more than he should have lived, one that suffered by living.

However, one clrealy came out as the strongest.

EMIYA fell down on one knee. SHIROU stood above him, glaring down at him. "Your biggest mistake was making a pact with the Counter Force, EMIYA. You don't need help from those kinds of beings. After all, Emiya Shirou just has to make something stronger than them on his mind to win." EMIYA's eyes widened at his words. This man, he was completely out of his league. 'This is more than just a Hero of the Age of the Gods...!'

This was a beast as powerful as Gilgamesh...!

SHIROU walked away from the Archer. "Do not think of killing yourself again, Counter Guardian."

EMIYA could only watch him walk away.

Theocrass
March 19th, 2011, 11:59 PM
Shirou Emiya arrived at the broken gates of Mount Olympus, with a hundred heroes at his back! Iskander, King of Conquerors, stood to his left and Lancelot, Knight of the Lake, stood to his right. Behind him: Arturia Pendragon, Herakles, Achilles, Perseus, Theseus, Cain, Adam, King David, Solomon the Wise, Samson the Strong, and more.

Gilgamesh stared back at them from atop a golden throne, Zeus beneath his feet, with Enkidu and Beowulf at either side of him. Gilgamesh's eyes burned with an intense hatred as he looked at Shirou.

The red-haired failure of a magus calls out across the heavenly palace. "King of Heroes! From where I'm standing, that's something of a misnomer!"

ItsaRandomUsername
March 20th, 2011, 02:23 AM
EPIC.

Theocrass
March 20th, 2011, 02:25 AM
I know RIGHT?!

Damnit!

That's another fanfic I need to write now!

There's the K Shirou story, the all Shirou Grail War story, and now this! When will I be satisfied damnit! When will my accursed muse be satisfied?!

ItsaRandomUsername
March 20th, 2011, 02:42 AM
Theocrass' Idea Gremlins: "Wuhuhuhuhu~"

Theocrass
March 20th, 2011, 02:43 AM
If I didn't want to write those things so bad, I would send my spirit bear to destroy you, accursed idea gremlins!

giodan
March 20th, 2011, 07:09 AM
well..... what if all woman in the emya house(including bazett and caren) were pregnant! and of course the dad is shirou!

and i can alredy seethe chaos in the house! and how wolud be the childrens!!!!

Erlkonig
March 20th, 2011, 07:52 AM
I could write Age-of-Gods!Shirou after MVS, if you don't want to, Theocrass.

meevanhelot
March 20th, 2011, 09:53 AM
And I will FUND IT with my imaginary money.

Keyne
March 20th, 2011, 09:59 AM
I just stole it from you. Ufufufu~~ *runs away*

Erlkonig
March 20th, 2011, 10:02 AM
I just stole it from you. Ufufufu~~ *runs away*

Emiya Shirou, Slayer of Divine Beasts and King of Fakers looks down upon you.

Keyne
March 20th, 2011, 10:25 AM
Emiya Shirou, Slayer of Divine Beasts and King of Fakers looks down upon you.

*skips away* Oh~~ Don't stare at me so~~ much~~, Shirou-ku~~n.

ItsaRandomUsername
March 20th, 2011, 10:33 AM
Tsukihime/zombie apocalypse fic:


It's just begging to happen.
Or, if the zombies don't stand enough of a chance, make it a KnK/zombie apocalypse story instead.

Keyne
March 20th, 2011, 10:37 AM
Tsukihime/zombie apocalypse fic:


It's just begging to happen.
Or, if the zombies don't stand enough of a chance, make it a KnK/zombie apocalypse story instead.

This reminds me of an idea I had about Shirou, Saber, Rin and Sakura as normal people without their powers (Saber kept her sword, though, but it also was powerless) in a L4D(2) setting.

meevanhelot
March 20th, 2011, 11:03 AM
Shirou would be too hax. With his hand eye coordination you could just hand him a gun and a bullet for every zombie in your way.

Well, I suppose he would have to figure out how to use a gun first, but after that...

Theocrass
March 20th, 2011, 12:22 PM
I could write Age-of-Gods!Shirou after MVS, if you don't want to, Theocrass.

Not sure ... Perhaps we could work together? Make it a joint effort?

Erlkonig
March 20th, 2011, 12:28 PM
Not sure ... Perhaps we could work together? Make it a joint effort?

Sure, why not? We could write one half of a chapter each, and proof-read each other's works.

eddyak
March 20th, 2011, 12:34 PM
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a180/niranira/shinko32432525.png
Female Shinji route. I am so tempted to write this.

And I would, but I suck at both porn and touching scenes. ;_;

Theocrass
March 20th, 2011, 12:36 PM
Touching Scenes + Shinji = Does not compute!

mangafreak7793
March 20th, 2011, 02:35 PM
How about before Kiritsugu saved Shirou a piece of the Grail's mud hit Shirou and accidentally absorbed it.

Years later when the grail war begins, Shirou begins to feel pain as his personality begins to black out every once in awhile and Avenger's personality comes out (with his weapons and nobles phantasms)

Theocrass
March 20th, 2011, 02:40 PM
^ Ermm ... how would that work?

Wouldn't he be part Angra Mainyu, anyways?

Keyne
March 20th, 2011, 02:40 PM
^ Ermm ... how would that work?

Wouldn't he be part Angra Mainyu, anyways?

Magic. :|

ItsaRandomUsername
March 20th, 2011, 02:44 PM
*Raperaperaperaperape*

But srsly, anti-hero Blood Knight!Shirouvenger might be interesting, if you're into a corruption fetish. Can you say, surges of overwhelming pleasure during heated fits of passion? He wouldn't pull any punches inside or outside of the bedroom, that's for certain.

"It'll hurt until it feels good!"

Theocrass
March 20th, 2011, 02:45 PM
^ You have stirred up my inner masochist IRUn-dono! WHY?!!!

You piqued his interest, and now I'll be on S&M sites for the next few hours, damnit!

Erlkonig
March 20th, 2011, 02:49 PM
But wait! What if Avenger starts to be influenced by Shirou and vice-versa? Shirou'd start to brood more, and Avenger would feel the need to save people, even though he hates them! Hilarity ensues as Avenger becomes the Angraman

ItsaRandomUsername
March 20th, 2011, 02:51 PM
ANGRA-KICK!

For some reason, the thought of Avenger as a costumed hero popped into my mind.

Theocrass
March 20th, 2011, 02:52 PM
And they would dress up as the Angra-ranger to disguise their identity!

EDIT: Sniped by IRUn-dono

ItsaRandomUsername
March 20th, 2011, 02:53 PM
*blows away gunsmoke*

Erlkonig
March 20th, 2011, 02:55 PM
"I hate you so much I'm saving you from certain death! *Saves his life again* Fuck you! *Saves him again* Why won't you die! *Saves him again* STOP LIVING, DAMNIT!"

Theocrass
March 20th, 2011, 02:56 PM
^ (:
Naaiiiisssssuuuuuuu!

mangafreak7793
March 20th, 2011, 03:09 PM
Well that could work, Though he manages to Trace Avenger's weapons as his main weapons in his dreams (Fate was Caliburn, UBW was Archer's swords) though Shirou will act a bit more violently especially if it comes to the event ten years ago since his mind is trying to suppress the time he absorb the mud

Near the end he'll start to grow curse marks from his body

Erlkonig
March 20th, 2011, 03:11 PM
*Berserker cuts open his stomach*
"Void Avesta"
*Own'd*

Keyne
March 20th, 2011, 03:14 PM
Argh, if only Nasu weren't such an ass and wrote some nice fighting scenes with Shirou with Caliburn in hand where he fights with 100% hp and actually puts up a fight!

Erlkonig
March 20th, 2011, 03:15 PM
Argh, if only Nasu weren't such an ass and wrote some nice fighting scenes with Shirou with Ea in hand!

I just made your line 10 times as awesome

Theocrass
March 20th, 2011, 03:16 PM
^^ I honestly wanted to see him dual wield a pair of Caliburns.

Keyne
March 20th, 2011, 03:18 PM
Argh, if only Nasu weren't such an ass and wrote some nice fighting scenes with Shirou with Ea in hand!

I just made your line 10 times as awesome

"Hey look! When you touch this cylinder and push it, it'll turn! Neat, isn't it?!" Hahahah

Erlkonig
March 20th, 2011, 03:21 PM
U just mad because Ea > Caliburn

ItsaRandomUsername
March 20th, 2011, 03:23 PM
Gilgamesh: trollface.jpg

Theocrass
March 20th, 2011, 03:24 PM
But Ea also looks lame! What to do?!

POWER OR COOLNESS, WHICH SHOULD I CHOOSE?!

Keyne
March 20th, 2011, 03:24 PM
U just mad because Ea > Caliburn

hurr durr derp :F

But Ea also looks lame! What to do?!

POWER OR COOLNESS, WHICH SHOULD I CHOOSE?!
Choose the practical one. Caliburn can be an irreplacable kitchen utensil (Shirou: "Did someone say 'kitchen utensil'?") and a nice wall decoration while Ea can roll dough for bread and cakes and requires a lot of space.

eddyak
March 20th, 2011, 03:43 PM
Ea can also rip space/time! Useful, for when you want some extra DVDs, but have nowhere to put them! Just rip a hole in space/time, and stuff em in there before it fixes itself! Just be careful of tentacles and things with more eyes than there should be.

Keyne
March 20th, 2011, 03:45 PM
Ea can also rip space/time! Useful, for when you want some extra DVDs, but have nowhere to put them! Just rip a hole in space/time, and stuff em in there before it fixes itself! Just be careful of tentacles and things with more eyes than there should be.

That's Ea or Yukari Yakumo, Edd? :3

eddyak
March 20th, 2011, 03:51 PM
I DON'T KNOW TOUHOU

But yeah, that is one of Ea's effects, right?

Erlkonig
March 20th, 2011, 03:52 PM
True dat

Keyne
March 20th, 2011, 03:54 PM
YOU LIE! IF YOU CAN TELL FROM WHERE YUKARI YAKUMO IS, YOU HAVE SOME KNOWLEDGE OF TOUHOU!

Ea can make ripples in time/space, but it's Yukari who can do practically anything on a dimentional level, even store goods inside her gaps. And her gaps have eyes.

eddyak
March 20th, 2011, 03:58 PM
I KNOW SOME TOUHOU

More specifically, Scarlet Weather Rhapsody is practically everything I know.

Keyne
March 20th, 2011, 04:01 PM
I KNOW SOME TOUHOU

More specifically, Scarlet Weather Rhapsody is practically everything I know.

AND THAT'S GOOD! SCARLET WEATHER RHAPSODY IS MUCH FUN! I MADE SURE TO SPANK TENSHI SORE WITH EVERY CHARACTER! >8D

Theocrass
March 20th, 2011, 04:12 PM
I know nothing at all about touhou, aside from what I learned from H-doujins. ;-;

ItsaRandomUsername
March 20th, 2011, 04:18 PM
*still needs to play SWR* >_<;

Keyne
March 20th, 2011, 04:20 PM
*still needs to play SWR* >_<;

DO EET NAO!

Theocrass
March 20th, 2011, 04:22 PM
wut is dat?

Keyne
March 20th, 2011, 04:36 PM
wut is dat?

Scarlet Weather Rhapsody.

Theocrass
March 20th, 2011, 04:51 PM
Would killing Gaia destroy the Earth? I don't pretend to know how these things work. :P

Just trying to figure some stuff out for our Age of the Gods Shirou!

Erlkonig
March 20th, 2011, 04:55 PM
Would killing Gaia destroy the Earth? I don't pretend to know how these things work. :P

Just trying to figure some stuff out for our Age of the Gods Shirou!

Gaia the titan or Gaia the will of the planet? Pretty sure that Titan!Gaia is just a Divine Spirit

Huntring
March 20th, 2011, 04:59 PM
I think he meant the will of the plant Gaia.

Theocrass
March 20th, 2011, 05:00 PM
^ Yeah, that.

Erlkonig
March 20th, 2011, 05:06 PM
I don't think you can kill the will of the planet without, well, killing the planet. Besides, it'd be much better to convince Gaia that humans are not as bad as they look like at first. I mean, that's what Shirou would try to do.

Theocrass
March 20th, 2011, 05:08 PM
^ But Shirou knows that people will get progressively worse, at least in terms of how they treat the environment.

Erlkonig
March 20th, 2011, 05:09 PM
Then he will make sure that they do not.

...And suddenly, Greenpeace has a lot more power behind their words.

Huntring
March 20th, 2011, 05:10 PM
Killing the plant causes the world to decay and the Types will attack like in Angel Notes. But it might be a exellent fight if Shirou somehow killed the plant and then has to fight off the types. But you have to make Shirou have a Jack Rakan level of Hax for that to work.

Theocrass
March 20th, 2011, 05:11 PM
^ Well, I certainly don't want THAT to happen. And Shirou wouldn't either.

So how about ... seducing the planet? :3

If anyone could do it, Shirou could!

Erlkonig
March 20th, 2011, 05:12 PM
Now, now. I don't think Shirou wants to kill the planet. And I certainly doubt that he can fight against the Types. ...We are talking about Lawful Good Shirou, right?

^Of course! THE BAR is almighty! He just has to find a bar and repeatedly jump over it while the eyes of the planet are on him. Instant seduction.

Huntring
March 20th, 2011, 05:18 PM
Shirou doesn't need to seduce the plant. Seducing means he is trying. When has Shirou ever tried to get a girl before

Erlkonig
March 20th, 2011, 05:21 PM
So he'd get the biggest harem in Olympus?

Emiya Shirou! Too much for one woman, too much for even the planet!

Huntring
March 20th, 2011, 05:25 PM
But he would have Age of the Gods Nanaya Shiki that would stand in the way of his harem collection. Than it would come down to the Gland vs the Bar.

Erlkonig
March 20th, 2011, 05:26 PM
...Wait, what?

Huntring
March 20th, 2011, 05:29 PM
I was referring to if Shirou was in the Age of the Gods what would happen if Shiki was in the Age of the Gods to. Two chick magnets versus off would be epic.

ItsaRandomUsername
March 20th, 2011, 05:29 PM
Shiki ain't cool enough for the Age of Gods.

Erlkonig
March 20th, 2011, 05:30 PM
Yeah. Shirou would be awesome for the Age of the Gods because of his tracing and because he wants to be a hero. Shiki would just be an assassin who slaps his bitches. Not GAR enough

Keyne
March 20th, 2011, 05:31 PM
I smell Rance in this thread. I don't know why? *looks up* Oh, that's why!

ItsaRandomUsername
March 20th, 2011, 05:31 PM
Epic!Shiki is Rance.

Erlkonig
March 20th, 2011, 05:32 PM
Shiki =! Rance

Huntring
March 20th, 2011, 05:33 PM
But Shirou needs a someone that matches his ability to attract beautiful women. I mean we have to have some sort of "Who can get the most chicks" contest right? Imagine the fun that could happen.

Keyne
March 20th, 2011, 05:35 PM
Lantz's Satoshi could be his rival. Hahahaha.

Erlkonig
March 20th, 2011, 05:36 PM
But adding another character from the future... Sort of makes it LESS awesome. Besides, he can already fight against the Demi-gods in those contests. Or Orpheus. That guy could probably make anyone fall in love with him by playing that damn Harp

Huntring
March 20th, 2011, 05:40 PM
You have to admit it would be funny if a Chick Magnet contest does happen. You know you want to see it.

ItsaRandomUsername
March 20th, 2011, 05:42 PM
I'd say that ough to be omake material, if anything.

Erlkonig
March 20th, 2011, 05:42 PM
Yeah, but you should know that the BAR is more powerful than the GLAND, since the former reduces their hostility levels as they compete for one's affection, while the gland makes them fight each other. In other words, one creates love and reduces stress, while the other one only creates love.

Huntring
March 20th, 2011, 05:46 PM
I'd say that ough to be omake material, if anything.

Yeah... I was thinking about something like a omake. But you have to think of somone that could match Shirou in getting girls.

eddyak
March 20th, 2011, 05:47 PM
Yeah, but you should know that the BAR is more powerful than the GLAND, since the former reduces their hostility levels as they compete for one's affection, while the gland makes them fight each other. In other words, one creates love and reduces stress, while the other one only creates love.
Actually, the Gland is more powerful because it attracts them harder, causing friction as they desperately struggle to catch him.

Erlkonig
March 20th, 2011, 05:47 PM
Orpheus. Definitely Orpheus.

^Then the BAR is more practical. Also, the Gland has the effect of making them love you more the harsher you treat them

ItsaRandomUsername
March 20th, 2011, 05:51 PM
Practicallity beats strength 9/10.

Huntring
March 20th, 2011, 05:56 PM
It should be noted that The Gland only attracts weird people with supernatural power. The Bar not only attracts women that are both normal and supernatural but grows stronger with age. Archer is the perfect proof of that because he had males declare that they were "Gar" to him. So once Shirou reaches Archers age his Bar would be able to cause people in reality to fall for him. Thus after thinking it over Shiki actually can't compete with Shirou. Perhaps Touma? His harem is over 9 thousand.

eddyak
March 20th, 2011, 06:02 PM
Who knows? We haven't seen Shiki's older Gland. Maybe it grows as he does.

ttestagr
March 20th, 2011, 06:10 PM
Come now people. We all know Gilgamesh will not allow any mongrel to dare imply that they are greater at collecting than he is.

Erlkonig
March 20th, 2011, 06:12 PM
Point is, Gilgamesh sucks at getting the women. It'd be a curb-stomp battle with Gil as comic-relief. ;_;

Huntring
March 20th, 2011, 06:13 PM
Proven fact that Shirou and Shiki collected more girls than Gilgamesh did. The only thing Gilgamesh could brag about is his gay love with enkidu.

ttestagr
March 20th, 2011, 06:25 PM
None of them managed to collect a goddess though. Ishtar was Gil's for the taking.

Huntring
March 20th, 2011, 06:26 PM
And... Gil thought he was too good for her and rejected her. That just proves he sucks with women.

ttestagr
March 20th, 2011, 06:28 PM
Ah, but if he's determined to prove he's better at collecting than Shirou, then he'll bite the bullet. So he'll say yes to Ishtar, Enkidu will live (cause bros are fine too.) Then he'll probably try to collect every douchebag goddess he can find while yelling that originals are better than the trash Shirou's collecting.

Zevrand
March 20th, 2011, 06:29 PM
But wait! What if Avenger starts to be influenced by Shirou and vice-versa? Shirou'd start to brood more, and Avenger would feel the need to save people, even though he hates them! Hilarity ensues as Avenger becomes the Angraman
Ah yes. The logical response.

1)I hate you guys!
2)You guys want me to be evil!
3)I really hate you guys!
4)Screw being evil, I'll be a superhero instead

Super Abe-san!
Probably battling evil.
Super Abe-san!
Now an avenging guy.
Super Abe-san!
He's the literal devil.
Buy all his playsets and toys

Erlkonig
March 20th, 2011, 06:31 PM
Or, since they were both born in the Age of the Gods, they grow up as Childhood rivals! With Gilgamesh getting mad at Shirou because he can copy everything he does despite him being a 2/3rd God and Shirou being human.

Erlkonig
March 20th, 2011, 06:33 PM
1)I hate you guys!
2)You guys want me to be evil!
3)I really hate you guys!
4)Screw being evil, I'll be a superhero instead



That... Actually makes sense. Avenger hates them, so he'd do anything to piss humanity off. Humanity wants him to be evil, but Avenger hates them. So, to go against them, he becomes a superhero!

mangafreak7793
March 20th, 2011, 06:33 PM
Did someone say rance? :)

Well if Shirou is in the Age of the god does that Mean he'll get the semi-innocent Teenage Medea and Medusa?

Huntring
March 20th, 2011, 06:36 PM
Ah, but if he's determined to prove he's better at collecting than Shirou, then he'll bite the bullet. So he'll say yes to Ishtar, Enkidu will live (cause bros are fine too.) Then he'll probably try to collect every douchebag goddess he can find while yelling that originals are better than the trash Shirou's collecting.

But Shirou will alwayes have Saber which Gil will never have. Either way Gil cannot match Shirou and Shiki simpily because he actually will have to try to seduce people. Both Shirou and Shiki can make girls fall for them without trying or noticing.

Erlkonig
March 20th, 2011, 06:37 PM
Obviously. And Athena, and Aphrodite, and Cybele, and any other beautiful female goddess/anthropomorphic femal mythological creature on his path.

Shirou, kicking ass and getting ass all day erry day

Huntring
March 20th, 2011, 06:41 PM
If Shirou has Avenger in him what would his reality marble chant be?

giodan
March 20th, 2011, 06:45 PM
well i konw i'm new and i get that, and maybe what i writen before was poor or bad writen or was alredy said in the old forum....

but still i don't like you guys to completely ignore me!

i don't mean to be offensive of something... well here we talk more of one think in one post

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If Shirou has Avenger in him what would his reality marble chant be?

the same! shirou power were the same in F/HA.

food
March 20th, 2011, 06:45 PM
Avenger is supposed to be "nothing". So... no change?

Mike1984
March 20th, 2011, 06:47 PM
Lantz's Satoshi could be his rival. Hahahaha.

His own son?

ttestagr
March 20th, 2011, 06:48 PM
Did someone say rance? :)

Well if Shirou is in the Age of the god does that Mean he'll get the semi-innocent Teenage Medea and Medusa?


Don't forget Rider's loli sisters. I can see them torturing him trying to get into his bed for a bit of twincest... which he does not want...

Huntring
March 20th, 2011, 06:49 PM
Given that Avenger and Shirou's mentality and attutides are suppose to affect each other, I imagine yes there will be a change. Also Avenger isn't nothing, he is a cynical and jaded person in contrast to Shirou's cheerful and naive outlook.

food
March 20th, 2011, 06:53 PM
Avenger is supposed to be like a 0. No matter how many times you add 0 to a number, the number does not change.

Erlkonig
March 20th, 2011, 06:54 PM
But you can add Shirou to Avenger, thus avenger would be affected. Because 0 + 1 = 1

I KNOW MATHS

food
March 20th, 2011, 06:56 PM
You are right.

Avenger is affected. He ended up still love mankind for the sparks of kindness.

Erlkonig
March 20th, 2011, 06:57 PM
So Angraman is possible!? FUCK YES!!!

food
March 20th, 2011, 07:07 PM
He would still love killing people, but he would love you more than before while killing you...?

Huntring
March 20th, 2011, 07:09 PM
I never really got the concept of why Avenger is 0. Isn't the Reality Marble chant decided by your personality. Avenger isn't 0 in terms of personlity, he does have a personility. Thus if Avenger's personlity affects Shirou's personility than won't the chant be different?

food
March 20th, 2011, 07:13 PM
The chant is just for self-hyponosis, it doesn't reflect much.

If the Batman theme song gets Shirou into the desired state, then the Batman theme song it would be.

Huntring
March 20th, 2011, 07:15 PM
Isn't the chant suppose to reflect the user's ideals and mentaility. That's why Archer's and Shirou's chant is different isn't it?

food
March 20th, 2011, 07:21 PM
The spell is for self-hypnosis.

The chant difference reflects the fact that Shirou is inferior to Archer in terms of thaumaturgy.

If you count the number of lines, Shirou's version has more lines. More lines means Shirou needs a greater amount of effort to achieve the same spell (thus a crappier magus).

mangafreak7793
March 20th, 2011, 07:23 PM
So a younger cynical version of Archer?

Huntring
March 20th, 2011, 07:25 PM
Oh........................ where is this mentioned. Also why do Fanfic writers change the chant if changing the chant doesn't matter? Is it Rule of the Cool or is there another reason

Mike1984
March 20th, 2011, 07:30 PM
The spell is for self-hypnosis.

The chant difference reflects the fact that Shirou is inferior to Archer in terms of thaumaturgy.

If you count the number of lines, Shirou's version has more lines. More lines means Shirou needs a greater amount of effort to achieve the same spell (thus a crappier magus).

No, that's not true.

The chant reflects the mentality of the user. The fact that Shirou needs more lines may well be a side-effect of him being a less good magus, but the difference in content is due to him having a different mentality towards life.


Oh........................ where is this mentioned. Also why do Fanfic writers change the chant if changing the chant doesn't matter? Is it Rule of the Cool or is there another reason

Because he's just pulled that statement straight out of his ass. It's not stated anywhere in canon, and that's the first time I've ever heard it.

Huntring
March 20th, 2011, 07:32 PM
Am confused. Can both of you cite the sources so I can decide which answer is right.

food
March 20th, 2011, 07:37 PM
Here.


Incantations/Spells

詠唱・呪文 - Eishou/Jumon

The operation needed to run thaumaturgy.

When using a form of thaumaturgy already stabilized/established as a first-rate school, an already determined process has to be gone through. Part of that process are incantations. Procedure-wise, incantations would be the "application" part in a system of application, acceptance, examination, and issuance.

While incantations themselves are just part of the procedure in regards to execution of thaumaturgy having large systems, in the case of execution of personally-styled thaumaturgy, they have high effect as means of self-hypnosis. To turn on and run one's internal circuits effectively, incantations were created.

Incantations are chanted not to the world but to one self. The reason why incantations may vary between magi even though the spell is the same is reflective of the difference in the personality of the caster.

Those incantations that are cast at the world and not one self are "grand incantations" and fall in the category of great rituals. Use by oneself is said to be impossible.

As spells already have predetermined abilities, no matter which magus uses it, the force of the spell won't change. The only thing that differs are the incantations. The incantations of a spell are what activates the thaumaturgy inscribed in one's own body and also illustrates the nature of the magus. This is because as long as the necessary meaning/set keyword are included for that spell, the details of the incantation are up to the magus' personal tastes.

The incantations of those magi that are easily intoxicated with themselves are long. However, by adding more meaning to it, the power of the spell increases. The stronger the self-hypnosis, the better a magus can draw power from himself (probably in terms of maximizing the power of circuits). It's best to find a good balance between meaningful length (words that would enhance the mind), reduction of rhyme, and quickness of pronunciation. For Shirou, Archer's UBW incantations are the ones that are best suited for raising success rate for tracing overall. Changing the words of the incantation doesn't mean much; what really matters is the meaning behind them.

Single Actions - Requirement is to only pass energy to activate. Gandr shots and mystic eyes are single action spells. Instant spells.
One-Line - Fixing an effect within oneself, ie, Rin activating her crest to cast a One-Line spell for either removing a sigil, or for gravity adjustment and weight reduction.
Ten-Count - Instant Contract. A simple ritual. Necessary for high thaumaturgy (rank A spells or higher). Casting time is typically one minute for a fully-trained magus and 30 seconds for one with high speed incantations). Consisting of ten or more lines, which may consist of one word per-line at the bare minimum.

Archer and Shirou's incantations are over 5 lines long and are close to Ten-Count types. Probably referring specifically to the UBWs.

The majority of Caster's spells fall into the One-Line category, but speed is even faster or at least just as fast as Single Action spells (No Action) and power-level is no less than that of Five-Line spells. Also, as her spells are Divine Words, they do not fall into the normal categories and thus the conditions of Anti-Prana B, C, and D do not apply to her.

It should also be noted that despite how long Archer's UBW verses might have actually been, gamewise, the completion of the spell was VERY short.

Note that for long incantations, before the spell is actually completed, there will normally be an observable effect on the outer world (with the exception of Reality Marble incantations or any other spells that don't activate already existing "programs").

Anything longer than a Ten-Count incantation is probably considered an actual ritual.


Spells just get the caster "into the zone". You are worse if it takes you longer to get the same result as someone else.

It doesn't "reflect your mentality" per se, but it is kind of like a soliloquy of sorts.

TypeWannabe
March 20th, 2011, 07:39 PM
The chant has more meaning to Shirou and Archer's life, so it's power increases. As well as the self hypnosis.

Erlkonig
March 20th, 2011, 07:42 PM
Changing the words of the incantation doesn't mean much; what really matters is the meaning behind them.

Note "the meaning". Even if Shirou had said the same words as Archer, the meaning behind them would've been different.

food
March 20th, 2011, 07:44 PM
The chant has more meaning to Shirou and Archer's life, so it's power increases. As well as the self hypnosis.
Not really much in terms of power.

Alba's long-ass spell increases his spell's power. Since both Shirou and Archer are trying to deploy UBW, you can't really "add more power" there.

Huntring
March 20th, 2011, 07:45 PM
Oh ok. How about your source Mike?

food
March 20th, 2011, 07:47 PM
This is the source in English (courtesy of arai), unless you want moon runes. I can get you more of those.

Huntring
March 20th, 2011, 07:52 PM
Well Mike aleast got his source somewhere and I am curious enough to hear it. But thanks for the source.

Mike1984
March 20th, 2011, 07:56 PM
Spells just get the caster "into the zone". You are worse if it takes you longer to get the same result as someone else.

No, not necessarily. It could just be that you happen to pick a longer phrase to get yourself into that zone than someone else does. But, even if that's the case, it doesn't invalidate what I was saying originally.


It doesn't "reflect your mentality" per se, but it is kind of like a soliloquy of sorts.

Yes, but if it's self-hypnosis, then it stands to reason that it will "reflect your mentality", to some extent.


Oh ok. How about your source Mike?

The same, just interpreted differently....

I'm not arguing that chants aren't "self-hypnosis", but the very fact that they are means that they're going to reflect the caster's mindset, and thus will differ between Archer and Shirou (note that, IIRC, Archer chants his in English, whereas Shirou does his in Japanese).

Theocrass
March 20th, 2011, 08:01 PM
Guys, guys, guys! Let's be honest. The BAR affects real-life, heterosexual MALES. And fictional ones (Issei). BAR > GLAND.

But anyways, if I do get my way with this Age of the Gods fic, Shirou will not get every female in existence. Oh sure, they might desire him, but I'm not going to go God-mode Sue with Shirou. That's something I promised myself I would never do.

Would his power increase in the Age of the Gods? Would he still need to use prana?

ttestagr
March 20th, 2011, 08:08 PM
Yeah, he'd still need prana. His ability to use it and use it efficiently would drastically increase.

Huntring
March 20th, 2011, 08:10 PM
Guys, guys, guys! Let's be honest. The BAR affects real-life, heterosexual MALES. And fictional ones (Issei). BAR > GLAND.

But anyways, if I do get my way with this Age of the Gods fic, Shirou will not get every female in existence. Oh sure, they might desire him, but I'm not going to go God-mode Sue with Shirou. That's something I promised myself I would never do.

Would his power increase in the Age of the Gods? Would he still need to use prana?

His power would increase because he could speak Divine Words thus I imagine he could trace more effectively. He might eventually crave his legend if he goes back to the age of gods

Erlkonig
March 20th, 2011, 08:13 PM
He needs to have prana to cast. He doesn't need to use his circuits. So he can use it more efficiently, plus he can use the mana instead of the odo.

ItsaRandomUsername
March 20th, 2011, 08:24 PM
Shirou speaking them Divine Words? SCARY COOL

Erlkonig
March 20th, 2011, 08:30 PM
Shirou speaking them Divine Words? SCARY COOL
Shirou: *Insults Medea in the divine language*
Medea: *Faints*

Theocrass
March 20th, 2011, 08:34 PM
Should I make him a freshly inducted Heroic Spirit who immediately breaks out? He opens a tear in the Throne, and that tear just happens to lead to the Age of the Gods?

mangafreak7793
March 20th, 2011, 08:36 PM
Heh the age of Gods...., Why do I imagine him getting with a younger Medea and Rider while brofisting Hercules as they go on a journey to screw the gods

ttestagr
March 20th, 2011, 08:37 PM
No, no. Time travel might be something that will become possible with regular science. Make Shirou part of an accident.

Theocrass
March 20th, 2011, 08:39 PM
^ Perhaps he happens upon an experiment with the missing 4/5's of the Emiya family crest? Doesn't the Association have it?

mangafreak7793
March 20th, 2011, 08:42 PM
Is somebody going to fund this story?

If so he must brofist Hercules and open up a Caster and Rider route

Theocrass
March 20th, 2011, 08:43 PM
Erlkonig and I were planning to collaborate on it some time in the future. People are welcome to writing their own versions, though.

mangafreak7793
March 20th, 2011, 08:44 PM
Can I make ideas, more of an Idea man and lack the attention span to make a full version

Theocrass
March 20th, 2011, 08:46 PM
You're welcome to send me any ideas that strike you. I don't mind. And you don't HAVE to do anything, ya know.

mangafreak7793
March 20th, 2011, 08:49 PM
Well I first have to see the story first but what about Kick ass priest Shirou?

Theocrass
March 20th, 2011, 08:53 PM
I'm working on that. It'll be a bit of time before I post anything, though.

Erlkonig
March 20th, 2011, 08:57 PM
Theo, it'd be better if he develops his powers from zero during the Age of the Gods, as trying to learn Divine Magic when older is much harder.

Huntring
March 20th, 2011, 08:59 PM
So are planning to have him time travel or are you going to have him get born in the Age of Gods

mangafreak7793
March 20th, 2011, 09:07 PM
I vote for time travel, or Zel just screwing with him

Theocrass
March 20th, 2011, 09:23 PM
If he was born in the Age of the Gods, he wouldn't be Emiya Shirou.

mangafreak7793
March 20th, 2011, 09:28 PM
and most likely a slave if we go by nationality, so assume that zel is crewing with him

Theocrass
March 20th, 2011, 09:31 PM
Japanese male? Erm ... I'm not sure where you get slave for that, but to put it bluntly, his existence wouldn't be possible if he was born in the Age of the Gods.

mangafreak7793
March 20th, 2011, 09:33 PM
well, smallest probability most likely from a Persian trade route

RJL333
March 20th, 2011, 09:41 PM
When preparing for the war Kiritsugu does some work for the Burial Agency in exchange for the rest of his family crest. Cue time travel shenanigans.

Mike1984
March 20th, 2011, 09:42 PM
well, smallest probability most likely from a Persian trade route

I'm pretty sure that even the Persians never got as far as Japan.

Simply put, there's no way in hell he'd be there.

Theocrass
March 20th, 2011, 09:43 PM
^ Yeah, pretty much. It has to be time travel.

^^ Does he go forward or back?

mangafreak7793
March 20th, 2011, 09:49 PM
Back of coarse, or the future but Zelrich must be involved or the solution

Huntring
March 20th, 2011, 09:57 PM
So what kinds of ablities do you plan to add to Shirou current ablity? What route Shirou is this or are you going to make up a random route?

Theocrass
March 20th, 2011, 10:03 PM
@ Manga: I was addressing RL on Kiritsugu.

^ So far? Undecided.

mangafreak7793
March 20th, 2011, 10:06 PM
Oh, sorry