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Napul
December 9th, 2011, 11:58 AM
Fate/stay night [Realta Nua] PC version will be released as a download!
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http://www.typemoon.com/information/info.html

terraablaze
December 9th, 2011, 11:59 AM
Jibbeda wah?

Fate/Stay Night: Fate? Redundant much?

Lianru
December 9th, 2011, 12:05 PM
wait what

Kotonoha
December 9th, 2011, 12:07 PM
Ohhhhh, RN PC download edition, very nice.

Might buy that if it's possible.

Also if someone translation patches this, we now have a solution for the "I want to play FSN but can't handle porn" people.

Rockxas
December 9th, 2011, 12:07 PM
Higher resolution versions of Realta Nua CGs, yay! Now the the question is, who will bother with an English patch for this?

Strife ❤️
December 9th, 2011, 12:07 PM
I agree with the sentiment of "lolwat".

Actually thinking about it a bit more it makes sense. Fate has become a lot more popular now and Realta Nua is a bit more... mainstream than F/SN, and it's going to give people another chance to play the game.

I3uster
December 9th, 2011, 12:08 PM
I guess the normal english patch will only need a slight modification with the installer or something.

Kotonoha
December 9th, 2011, 12:08 PM
Yeah, they're definitely jumping on the Zero popularity wave here. "Hey all you non-eroge-liking people who just became Fate/Zero fans, now you can play the original too!"

(Oh, and btw it says they're not adding anything new that wasn't in Realta Nua)

Arashi_Leonhart
December 9th, 2011, 12:09 PM
I kind of feel angry that I went out of the way to buy the original pc version now.

Milbunk
December 9th, 2011, 12:09 PM
... They better not use different sprites.

Kotonoha
December 9th, 2011, 12:11 PM
I kind of feel angry that I went out of the way to buy the original pc version now.

I went out of my way to buy Realta Nua, how do you think I feel?!

...Actually, feels okay man.

Lianru
December 9th, 2011, 12:11 PM
I guess the normal english patch will only need a slight modification with the installer or something.
Is mirrormoon gonna do it?

Strife ❤️
December 9th, 2011, 12:12 PM
I kind of feel angry that I went out of the way to buy the original pc version now.

At least you have something physical to show for it. The patch pretty much turns it into realta nua anyway.

terraablaze
December 9th, 2011, 12:13 PM
... They better not use different sprites.

Your compliant, I don't understand it.

I3uster
December 9th, 2011, 12:15 PM
Is mirrormoon gonna do it?
Dunno. I don't think they'll bother with that, but it isn't too hard for some evil pirate dude on /jp/ or something.

Kotonoha
December 9th, 2011, 12:16 PM
Is mirrormoon gonna do it?

Mirror Moon? Doing something?

Stop living in the past Lianru!

Lianru
December 9th, 2011, 12:16 PM
^^...True. I suppose those evil pirates wouldn't bother asking for permission.

^ ;_;

Mcjon01
December 9th, 2011, 12:17 PM
Something about dividing the routes to make it easier to play? Is this gonna be three separate downloads or something, or am I reading that wrong?

terraablaze
December 9th, 2011, 12:18 PM
Dunno. I don't think they'll bother with that, but it isn't too hard for some evil pirate dude on /jp/ or something.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=OaQEuJxaSR0

Mcjon01
December 9th, 2011, 12:20 PM
Also, loving the comments.

もう会社名fateでいいんじゃないかな

じゃあ、TYPE-FATEで。

terraablaze
December 9th, 2011, 12:23 PM
Why not in the fate of another company

Well, TYPE-by FATE.


so I heard something about splitting the routes?

TekkZero
December 9th, 2011, 12:30 PM
It'd make sense to split the whole thing into 3 smaller download files.
This is good, I have a friend who wants to read the VN, but she's really afraid of the porn haha, so If someone patches this it would be wonderful for her.

Lianru
December 9th, 2011, 12:32 PM
Lol there's already a patch for that.

terraablaze
December 9th, 2011, 12:33 PM
No one seems to know it exists though. This way I guess we get the alt scenes though.
Golden Prismatic Magic Furnace of Phantasy gooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lianru
December 9th, 2011, 12:35 PM
ohgod THREEDEE DRAGON GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
SPARKLY DOLPHINS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
uh....PENISWORMS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO?

Milbunk
December 9th, 2011, 12:37 PM
No in RN they turn into spiked worms.

Lianru
December 9th, 2011, 12:39 PM
Ah, okay.
Personally, I think you miss a lot of epic quotes without the H-scenes. Although you really only need the text.

TekkZero
December 9th, 2011, 12:48 PM
Lol there's already a patch for that. It really takes out the Porn? because I have a RN patch in my version that adds Last Episode and tons of stuff, but it doesn't take the H-scenes away.

Kotonoha
December 9th, 2011, 12:51 PM
I don't think there is a non-ero patch. Just one that adds in some of the stuff from RN.

Lianru
December 9th, 2011, 12:53 PM
I have a non-ero patch. =P

Kotonoha
December 9th, 2011, 12:57 PM
Weird.

Anyway I wonder about the route division thing and "making it easy to play".

Aoki Ryūji
December 9th, 2011, 01:01 PM
Woow, a great news for the people attached to Fate/Zero... and I feel the same way as Kotonoha ^o^


(...) "Hey all you non-eroge-liking people who just became Fate/Zero fans, now you can play the original too!"

(Oh, and btw it says they're not adding anything new that wasn't in Realta Nua)
LOL!!!


For Realta Nua, I only want to know what's happens in Heaven's Feel Route without the H Scenes XP

Lianru
December 9th, 2011, 01:04 PM
B-but the H-scenes give you so many wonderful phrases, like "educated prostitute"! How could you not like them?

Abaddon
December 9th, 2011, 01:05 PM
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9684/76374675.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/171/76374675.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

*looks at pic*
I'll keep the original, thank you.

Kotonoha
December 9th, 2011, 01:07 PM
http://i42.tinypic.com/2q0t7yo.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/1j81fl.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/33pbi11.jpg

Fine too.

Abaddon
December 9th, 2011, 01:11 PM
Nope.jpg

I3uster
December 9th, 2011, 01:12 PM
Nice try Koto, but no.

Abaddon
December 9th, 2011, 01:14 PM
Nice try Koto, but no.

*Brofist*

Aoki Ryūji
December 9th, 2011, 01:15 PM
http://i42.tinypic.com/2q0t7yo.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/1j81fl.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/33pbi11.jpg

Fine too.
B-B-But where's the emotion of go after the "VIRGIN Tsundere" in all the Route... I DON'T WANT TO GO FISHING!!!!!

Kotonoha
December 9th, 2011, 01:18 PM
Nope.jpg


Nice try Koto, but no.

You guys are crazy.

You fail to notice something very important: the RN version has her with the twintails, and in terms of eroticism, Rin with twintails >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rin with hair down. Even a non-sexual prana transfer with twintail-Rin is more arousing than sex with hair-down-Rin.

Rin with her hair down is not even Rin!

Lianru
December 9th, 2011, 01:21 PM
So you don't believe in older!Rin?

Mcjon01
December 9th, 2011, 01:21 PM
Realta Nua maintains twin tail integrity from start to finish, it is inherently better.

Kotonoha
December 9th, 2011, 01:22 PM
Older-Rin looks terrible.

HF couldn't settle at just killing Saber, they had to kill Rin's attractiveness too. Probably so she wouldn't tempt Shirou away from Sakura with her sexiness.

terraablaze
December 9th, 2011, 01:22 PM
But what about poor Adult Rin?

Edit: s-s-sniped.

Lianru
December 9th, 2011, 01:23 PM
I do agree with Koto-nee on Adult Rin though.

Abaddon
December 9th, 2011, 01:24 PM
>Implying i'm looking at her hair

y so funny Koto?

terraablaze
December 9th, 2011, 01:26 PM
You should be looking at her as a whole. As a gestalt image Rin looks better with twin-tails then without, especially in that image.

giorno
December 9th, 2011, 01:28 PM
adult rin is hotter than twintails rin. She should go with a ponytail instead

Mcjon01
December 9th, 2011, 01:34 PM
You're clearly trying to turn Rin into some kind of lamer, no-red-hair knockoff of Touko. This cannot be tolerated.

TekkZero
December 9th, 2011, 01:37 PM
Gotta lurk moar then.

Kotonoha
December 9th, 2011, 01:38 PM
You're clearly trying to turn Rin into some kind of lamer, no-red-hair knockoff of Touko. This cannot be tolerated.

Yeah, Rin is an Aoko knockoff, not a Touko one!

I3uster
December 9th, 2011, 01:39 PM
*Brofist*
http://www.mindsdelight.de/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/brofist.jpg

Kotonoha
December 9th, 2011, 01:41 PM
http://www.mindsdelight.de/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/brofist.jpg

*brofist*

*to the face*

I3uster
December 9th, 2011, 01:46 PM
You can not accept the obviously better version, as expected.
Lrn2taste.

Kotonoha
December 9th, 2011, 01:48 PM
You are the one with no taste. I appreciate the finer things in life, like twintails.









Anyway, RN PC version.

I3uster
December 9th, 2011, 01:50 PM
I am kinda torn about buying this. Does this tell them to make more stuff, or does it tell them to milk fate more?

Mcjon01
December 9th, 2011, 01:51 PM
Both.

terraablaze
December 9th, 2011, 01:53 PM
The solution is for absolutely everyone to buy Mahou Tsukai no Yoru when it comes out, whether you can read it or not. Also everyone watch Girl's Work.

I3uster
December 9th, 2011, 01:53 PM
Also they may think that I approve of LE that way...

Fuck it, I think I'll buy it.

Strife ❤️
December 9th, 2011, 01:57 PM
I'm kinda thinking of buying it but then again I wouldn't really gain anything from it. I wonder if it will even get a working translation patch.

Kotonoha
December 9th, 2011, 02:03 PM
Well, for all those who wanted to legitimately buy the original but couldn't because it's hard to find and too expensive, this is a good opportunity!

Like I remember Mike was always saying he would buy FSN if he could ensure that TM would get money for it.

terraablaze
December 9th, 2011, 02:07 PM
How much is the download going to cost? Hopefully not exorbitantly expensive. Also how are non Japanese people supposed to buy it?

Mcjon01
December 9th, 2011, 02:12 PM
I created a program to analyze the price of visual novels. Judging from past data and accounting for the fact that this is a PC version of the PS2 version of a PC game that's almost ten years old, my calculations show that the price will be at least 80 billion dollars per unit.

Napul
December 9th, 2011, 02:18 PM
More info:
http://www.siliconera.com/2011/12/09/fatestay-night-realta-nua-is-getting-an-official-pc-port/

Lianru
December 9th, 2011, 02:19 PM
Are you Sion?

Mcjon01
December 9th, 2011, 02:23 PM
More info:
http://www.siliconera.com/2011/12/09/fatestay-night-realta-nua-is-getting-an-official-pc-port/

If you want to be technical, that's actually less info. Than was in the blurb on Type Moon's website, I mean. Unless you're counting the brief history of FSN releases as info.

terraablaze
December 9th, 2011, 02:25 PM
I guess he didn't read the rest of the posts here. So the routes are easier to complete or something. Anything else we should know?

Lycodrake
December 9th, 2011, 02:27 PM
IIRC, Realta Nua removes the Shirou/Rin/Saber(Arturia) lemon/smex scene...though that might've been already stated. XP

Strife ❤️
December 9th, 2011, 02:29 PM
How can you make a visual novel easier? It already has auto read so you don't even have to press anything.

Unless the bad choices have dead end written beside them or something.

Napul
December 9th, 2011, 02:33 PM
If you want to be technical, that's actually less info. Than was in the blurb on Type Moon's website, I mean. Unless you're counting the brief history of FSN releases as info.
Specification: More info in English.

Lianru
December 9th, 2011, 02:33 PM
IIRC, Realta Nua removes the Shirou/Rin/Saber(Arturia) lemon/smex scene...though that might've been already stated. XP
RN takes out all the H-scenes, because it's kid-safe.

I3uster
December 9th, 2011, 02:35 PM
Well, "kid safe" isn't what I'd say...

Strife ❤️
December 9th, 2011, 02:35 PM
If having your stomach torn out counts as being kid safe.

Lycodrake
December 9th, 2011, 02:35 PM
RN takes out all the H-scenes, because it's kid-safe.
Thought so...but I guess that means more sales and Type-Moon fans. *shrugs* Either way.


If having your stomach torn out counts as being kid safe.
Exactly.

Mcjon01
December 9th, 2011, 02:36 PM
Specification: More info in English.

I was just messin', man. If I was being serious I would have pointed out that we'd already gone over everything in that link in this thread. :p

Gilgamesh
December 9th, 2011, 04:30 PM
Well, they say that there is something new/different in this ver that wasn't in the PS2 ver and that more info will come later. I didn't see that in this thread before. In fact, I saw the opposite. :p

Mcjon01
December 9th, 2011, 04:39 PM
It says that they revised it to divide the routes, and due to that there are a few tiny differences to the original version, but that nothing new was added.

Milbunk
December 9th, 2011, 04:41 PM
And this tiny difference will cause 500 more arguments in the future.

GlanGR
December 9th, 2011, 06:13 PM
They're going to add a short "NOT EXCALIBUR" caption at the end of HF.

Gilgamesh
December 9th, 2011, 06:20 PM
It says that they revised it to divide the routes, and due to that there are a few tiny differences to the original version, but that nothing new was added.
I see. I knew they were making the routes separate downloads, but I didn't know that was what the different stuff was related to. So, like, some choices that split the routes and the incidents of scenes from other routes bleeding in if you pick certain choices, those are the things that are different, most likely, right? Thanks for the tip.

Napul
December 9th, 2011, 07:05 PM
I knew they were making the routes separate downloads...
Then, this is the cover for Fate route:
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Where are they covers for UBW and HF? Give me a covers with Rin and Sakura in front! :rin::o:sakura:

Strife ❤️
December 9th, 2011, 07:34 PM
Making the routes more obviously separate makes sense really.

I3uster
December 9th, 2011, 07:36 PM
Yeah, so that UBW can hover above the rest, laughing at the others :neco_arc:

terraablaze
December 9th, 2011, 07:38 PM
I wonder which one will be the best selling.

Rowanism
December 9th, 2011, 07:48 PM
HF bitches.

I3uster
December 9th, 2011, 07:53 PM
HF bitches.
Majority says no (http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/527-Favorite-F-SN-route)

Kratosirving
December 9th, 2011, 08:02 PM
Well, if you consider that at least some of the fans are knowledgeable...the Anime was Fate route, UBW movie was...UBW. That does leave HF a shot to continue medium trends.

Idk.

Sorans
December 9th, 2011, 08:10 PM
Good news...wait what ? Only as download version ? ...I'm afraid I'll have to pass x_x
*hates buying downloads*

Rowanism
December 9th, 2011, 08:16 PM
Majority says no (http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/527-Favorite-F-SN-route)
BL is not the majority. Duh.

sushimonster
December 9th, 2011, 08:49 PM
There was something about a removed Illya route (from the PC version) I remember reading about in a Tiger Dojo, if memory serves correct. Though apparently it was only removed because the adult scenes (involving Les I recall) were iffy, or something to that effect.

Here's me waiting patiently as to what these 'changes' will actually include (putting aside the rumours here???).

SeiKeo
December 9th, 2011, 08:49 PM
Watch as HF is an Ilya route or something insane.

Lianru
December 9th, 2011, 08:53 PM
Well, it's Heaven's Feel. More related to Illya than Sakura. =P

Gilgamesh
December 9th, 2011, 09:01 PM
The best selling route will be Fate. Stop deluding yourselves and prepare for the power of an anime adaptation and Saber's universal appeal.

Mcjon01
December 9th, 2011, 09:06 PM
There was something about a removed Illya route (from the PC version) I remember reading about in a Tiger Dojo, if memory serves correct. Though apparently it was only removed because the adult scenes (involving Les I recall) were iffy, or something to that effect.

Here's me waiting patiently as to what these 'changes' will actually include (putting aside the rumours here???).


Watch as HF is an Ilya route or something insane.

The world you guys live in must be a beautiful, magical place.

SeiKeo
December 9th, 2011, 09:08 PM
The world you guys live in must be a beautiful, magical place.

Oh, I mostly think he'd do it for the trolling.

...wait, it'll be an Issei route.

Lianru
December 9th, 2011, 10:04 PM
...That reminds me of what Sat and Optimus noticed

<Satehi> In all of Issei's sprites with Shirou, he always has his hands in his pants
D:

boltpower
December 9th, 2011, 10:04 PM
Well nice news... Soon we will have a port for Wii, PS3 and Xbox with some new CG... Way to milk stuff TM xD ... Ill probably buy it though :)

Kotonoha
December 9th, 2011, 10:26 PM
Then, this is the cover for Fate route:
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Where are they covers for UBW and HF? Give me a covers with Rin and Sakura in front! :rin::o:sakura:

Actually that's the cover for RN (budget edition).

Does it say specifically somewhere that the routes will be separate DLs?

boltpower
December 9th, 2011, 10:29 PM
I think in the typemoon page... But my googletranslator science isnt strong, nor my japanese is...

terraablaze
December 9th, 2011, 11:12 PM
Something about dividing the routes to make it easier to play? Is this gonna be three separate downloads or something, or am I reading that wrong?

Seems like McJon01 said it.

Mcjon01
December 9th, 2011, 11:16 PM
Actually that's the cover for RN (budget edition).

Does it say specifically somewhere that the routes will be separate DLs?

That's how I interpret the route splitting thing. And the fact that the cover there clearly says "Fate/stay night [Realta Nua]: Fate".

bahamut zero
December 10th, 2011, 02:44 AM
Well, they say that there is something new/different in this ver that wasn't in the PS2 ver and that more info will come later. I didn't see that in this thread before. In fact, I saw the opposite. :p

Fixing inconsistencies with fate/zero and making sakura more evul.

mewarmo990
December 10th, 2011, 03:05 AM
No Ilya or Fuji-nee-shishou routes. Pft.

Touko
December 10th, 2011, 03:25 AM
All I want out of this is Nine Bullet Revolver in 1680X1050, nothing else matters.

Mcjon01
December 10th, 2011, 03:29 AM
Maybe we'll get the exact same image resolution as the PS2 version, even though that's actually worse than the original PC version.

Pablo_Querte
December 11th, 2011, 04:35 PM
Where is my Tsukihime remake ;_;?

SeiKeo
December 11th, 2011, 04:36 PM
What Tsukihime remake?

Kotonoha
December 11th, 2011, 04:36 PM
All I want out of this is Nine Bullet Revolver in 1680X1050, nothing else matters.

Oh yeah, larger resolution than 800x600 would be nice.

Wonder if it's a possibility.

Mike1984
December 11th, 2011, 04:49 PM
Well, for all those who wanted to legitimately buy the original but couldn't because it's hard to find and too expensive, this is a good opportunity!

Like I remember Mike was always saying he would buy FSN if he could ensure that TM would get money for it.

Well, it depends what they do to it. I'd still buy it if it were the same as the PS2 version, but I'm not fond of RN in general as it is, because IMO it screws up HF. If they change anything significant, I might refuse to buy it on principle.


Watch as HF is an Ilya route or something insane.

If he did that, I would be very pissed-off. I doubt he will, though....


Fixing inconsistencies with fate/zero and making sakura more evul.

I bloody hope not (to the second, that is)....

eddyak
December 11th, 2011, 04:55 PM
Wouldn't the splitting route thing just remove some of the options?

Instead of being able to go "LOL LET'S HEAD TO HF A QUARTER OF THE WAY THROUGH FATE- WHAT?! A BAD END? I NEED TO PLAY THROUGH FATE FIRST?", you don't get that option.

Mike1984
December 11th, 2011, 04:58 PM
Well, there's only one Bad End that does that, and it's not like it'd be hard to just duplicate the few scenes it repeats. The only real issue is in the initial route selection (particularly getting on to HF, because you need to make several very specific choices to do so), and I guess they could "fix" that by just removing the choices entirely and railroading you into that particular route.

Mcjon01
December 11th, 2011, 05:04 PM
If it is three separate downloads I wonder if they'll make you sit through the prologue every time.

terraablaze
December 11th, 2011, 05:06 PM
Koto is okay with that I guess. We still don't know for sure whether they are splitting the routes like that.

Hyarion
December 11th, 2011, 05:09 PM
What is this madness.

It's awesome that we won't have to be trying to get the PC to run stuff meant for that bizarre FSN/HA hybrid engine, and all the backflips required to get the PS2 resources on the PC are no more... Waku Waku's work here is basically done.

But me? All I have to show is my reverse-engineered PS2 image format, a few H-alts that still need TLC, and a massive stack of Realta Nua scripts to finish comparing with the originals.

okay, feel-sorry-for-self time over, time to consider maybe actually picking this project back up for once

Keyne
December 11th, 2011, 05:15 PM
What is this madness.

It's awesome that we won't have to be trying to get the PC to run stuff meant for that bizarre FSN/HA hybrid engine, and all the backflips required to get the PS2 resources on the PC are no more... Waku Waku's work here is basically done.

But me? All I have to show is my reverse-engineered PS2 image format, a few H-alts that still need TLC, and a massive stack of Realta Nua scripts to finish comparing with the originals.

okay, feel-sorry-for-self time over, time to consider maybe actually picking this project back up for once
;~;

Mike1984
December 11th, 2011, 05:18 PM
What is this madness.

It's awesome that we won't have to be trying to get the PC to run stuff meant for that bizarre FSN/HA hybrid engine, and all the backflips required to get the PS2 resources on the PC are no more... Waku Waku's work here is basically done.

But me? All I have to show is my reverse-engineered PS2 image format, a few H-alts that still need TLC, and a massive stack of Realta Nua scripts to finish comparing with the originals.

okay, feel-sorry-for-self time over, time to consider maybe actually picking this project back up for once

Well, whilst the ero-replacement project isn't really needed any more, it's still definitely worth adding the RN scenes to the original FSN, because the original is better, IMO. Particularly in terms of HF, where removing the sex scenes just doesn't make sense, and removing all the rape references is just plain stupid.

Keyne
December 11th, 2011, 05:18 PM
It makes HF less tragic. Oh lawd... 'c'

Mcjon01
December 11th, 2011, 05:20 PM
Koto is okay with that I guess. We still don't know for sure whether they are splitting the routes like that.

I guess they technically haven't confirmed it, but come on. Just look at that cover!

Hyarion
December 11th, 2011, 05:25 PM
because the original is better, IMO.

I'm not having this discussion again, Mike.

Mike1984
December 11th, 2011, 05:25 PM
It makes HF less tragic. Oh lawd... 'c'

It makes HF make less sense, and makes Sakura's actions seem less reasonable (particularly with regards to Shinji, who she has much less in-character reason to kill if he was "only" beating her as opposed to raping her).

Keyne
December 11th, 2011, 05:27 PM
Well, it was meant to be a crazy route, so I'm totally ok with that, I suppose.

Mike1984
December 11th, 2011, 05:31 PM
I'm not having this discussion again, Mike.

Well, regardless of your opinion on the matter, there are plenty of people who would rather play the game without the Realta Nua cuts, but who would still like to see the RN CGs (and added scenes, such as Last Episode). So, your work is not at all obsolete, except for the addition of the H-alt scenes. And, given that this RN release is not going to be translated anyway, even the work you've done on those isn't wasted, because they're going to be needed to produce a proper translation for the RN PC version.

Rowanism
December 11th, 2011, 05:34 PM
Sakura.

Strife ❤️
December 11th, 2011, 05:37 PM
So the current PC F/SN with the Voice Patch is some crazy mix between F/SN and Realta Nua?

Keyne
December 11th, 2011, 05:37 PM
So the current PC F/SN with the Voice Patch is some crazy mix between F/SN and Realta Nua?
Good morning.

Mcjon01
December 11th, 2011, 05:38 PM
Main reason I feel like Realta Nua is better than Original FSN with Realta Nua voices is that Realta Nua actually changed the script to acknowledge that the voices are there. It always seemed kind of silly to have people talking, while the text describes how they're talking.

Mike1984
December 11th, 2011, 05:38 PM
So the current PC F/SN with the Voice Patch is some crazy mix between F/SN and Realta Nua?

No, but there exists a patch which adds the RN CGs to FSN, but without removing the H-scenes etc.


Main reason I feel like Realta Nua is better than Original FSN with Realta Nua voices is that Realta Nua actually changed the script to acknowledge that the voices are there. It always seemed kind of silly to have people talking, while the text describes how they're talking.

Well, if you don't speak Japanese (like most of us on the forum...), then that is at best an irrelevance, and potentially an outright disadvantage (if it means that you need to understand what they're saying in order to be able to read the story).

Strife ❤️
December 11th, 2011, 05:39 PM
Well I really meant what is missing from Realta Nua in the patch, I guess just the replacements for the H scenes? Was everything else added?

Keyne
December 11th, 2011, 05:40 PM
Was everything else added?
Practically.

Mcjon01
December 11th, 2011, 05:40 PM
The actual Realta Nua still has much fancier animations last time I checked.

Pablo_Querte
December 11th, 2011, 05:41 PM
Well I really meant what is missing from Realta Nua in the patch, I guess just the replacements for the H scenes? Was everything else added?
Censored worms

Mike1984
December 11th, 2011, 05:42 PM
Censored worms

No, those aren't in the RN patch, I believe. But, really, those count as "H-scene replacements" anyway, since they were changed for the purpose of RN due to the need to get past the Sony censors.

Strife ❤️
December 11th, 2011, 05:45 PM
I never realised Realta Nua was so different. I mean, I knew about the new animations, and CG, and voice, but I didn't know they changed the script.

Hyarion
December 11th, 2011, 05:48 PM
Well, regardless of your opinion on the matter, there are plenty of people who would rather play the game without the Realta Nua cuts, but who would still like to see the RN CGs (and added scenes, such as Last Episode). So, your work is not at all obsolete, except for the addition of the H-alt scenes. And, given that this RN release is not going to be translated anyway, even the work you've done on those isn't wasted, because they're going to be needed to produce a proper translation for the RN PC version.

Hm? No, I was just being a bit melodramatic back there at being reminded just how much work I had left. It's certainly not wasted -- I'm just dreading getting back into it, as juggling TL stuff is really not what I was meant for... and there's so much of it, gh.

The discussion in question was that Realta Nua is objectively worse, due to cutting out important scenes and whatnot. I mean, imagine me giving the same argument -- that Fate and UBW were cut from their original versions, and "silly lemons" inserted. *shrug* I certainly can't imagine Fate now without that second H-alt, but that's not the point, hey?

But no, I want to open F/SN to a wider audience -- I'm in no way trying to force H-alts down your throat. It's just that the only option yet to be available is the complete Realta Nua experience, H-alts, script edits and all, so that's why I focus on it.

Kotonoha
December 11th, 2011, 05:50 PM
Koto is okay with that I guess. We still don't know for sure whether they are splitting the routes like that.

Actually I really hope they don't have the routes as separate games.

It'd be nice if "splitting the routes" just meant, you finish Fate route and then you get a "start UBW route" button on the main menu instead of going through the beginning again, or something. I don't want to buy the game three times to get the full game.


I never realised Realta Nua was so different. I mean, I knew about the new animations, and CG, and voice, but I didn't know they changed the script.

Yeah, there are minor changes. Like Mcjon said, some of them are just like
"Blahblah," she said slowly and clearly <--the last part would be cut off, because with voices we can hear the way she is speaking without being told.

Also, slightly related to the topic of RN differences, just now I was going through the RN CGs because Milbunk wanted them (there are a few CG sets out there but they are all incomplete) and there are a lot of really minor changes to the CGs. Like some of them have a tiny bit less blood, others have slight tweaking to characters' faces or hands, etc. My favourite is the Shinji CG from Fate, where they added stripes to the couch. lolwhy

Keyne
December 11th, 2011, 05:56 PM
Stripes are better than plains. '_'

terraablaze
December 11th, 2011, 06:00 PM
@Koto
You mean the CG of him with Rider? What?

Kotonoha
December 11th, 2011, 06:05 PM
@Koto
You mean the CG of him with Rider? What?

Yep yep

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a180/niranira/comparison6copy.jpg

And a few more, let's play Spot the Differences!

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a180/niranira/comparison1copy.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a180/niranira/comparison2copy.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a180/niranira/comparison3copy.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a180/niranira/comparison4copy.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a180/niranira/comparison5copy.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a180/niranira/comparison7copy.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a180/niranira/comparison8copy.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a180/niranira/comparison9copy.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a180/niranira/comparison10copy.jpg

mewarmo990
December 11th, 2011, 06:07 PM
And a few more, let's play Spot the Differences!
Boner

No boner


Actually I really hope they don't have the routes as separate games.
Relax, this ain't Starcraft 2.

Strife ❤️
December 11th, 2011, 06:11 PM
What is the difference in the Illya/Shirou one?

lol at the one where they've made Saber's mouth look less stupid.

mewarmo990
December 11th, 2011, 06:12 PM
What is the difference in the Illya/Shirou one?


boner

no boner

Kotonoha
December 11th, 2011, 06:13 PM
What is the difference in the Illya/Shirou one?

lol at the one where they've made Saber's mouth look less stupid.

Illya's face. It was redrawn to be a SLIGHTLY less derpy Takeuchi sideview.

Also boner/no boner

mewarmo990
December 11th, 2011, 06:13 PM
Oh, fine, be a spoilsport.

terraablaze
December 11th, 2011, 06:14 PM
For some reason I though Koto said crotch which confused me greatly.
What is up with them shying away from a volume of blood that the anime could handle? Makes no sense.

Keyne
December 11th, 2011, 06:14 PM
Actually, Both those Fate Shirou/Ilya ones were "no boners" for me. But that's just a minor detail.

Strife ❤️
December 11th, 2011, 06:15 PM
Oh, fine, be a spoilsport.

I spent some time trying to look for Shirou's boner, I hope you are happy ;_;

Mcjon01
December 11th, 2011, 06:16 PM
What is up with them shying away from a volume of blood that the anime could handle? Makes no sense.

Arcane Japanese game rating laws? Takeuchi wanted to show off his awesome hand art? The world may never know.

I3uster
December 11th, 2011, 06:20 PM
Relax, this ain't Starcraft 2.
Oh no they release expansions for a full priced game! People get ripped off!
(Sorry for the Off Topic but it really irritates me when people seriously believe that shit).

Pablo_Querte
December 11th, 2011, 06:20 PM
What is the difference in the Illya/Shirou one?

lol at the one where they've made Saber's mouth look less stupid.
Shirou is paler?

mewarmo990
December 11th, 2011, 06:21 PM
Arcane Japanese game rating laws? Takeuchi wanted to show off his awesome hand art? The world may never know.
No idea either. Realta Nua was Cero C, which is roughly equivalent to PEGI 16 (no eq. in US ESRB).

However there is still one grade higher, D (PEGI 17, ESRB M) before going adult-only. So eh.

Strife ❤️
December 11th, 2011, 06:25 PM
I thought PEGI took over game rating in the UK but I just looked at some of my random new titles and they are still BBFC rated. Weird. (Eh, apparently it never happened)

So what do you think the chances of a translation patch being made for these?

Hyarion
December 11th, 2011, 06:52 PM
So what do you think the chances of a translation patch being made for these?

Not bad. Just need someone to TLC the h-alts and I could have a basic patch working in a day, I'm sure. Determining what script edits need to be brought over... that's a pain, to be sure, but ultimately doable.

Of course that assumes there's not some new and exotic xp3 encryption, or *gasp* they've switched off of kirikiri entirely. ...But I don't think adapting to whatever this version throws at us will be hard, tbh, and besides... a bit of reverse engineering might be just what I need to get myself fired up to get back into this project.

Mcjon01
December 11th, 2011, 06:55 PM
Been meaning to ask, Hyarion, but how'd you get the scripts from Realta Nua in the first place?

Keyne
December 11th, 2011, 07:08 PM
http://i43.tinypic.com/befr76.jpg

Hyarion
December 11th, 2011, 07:11 PM
The scripts? The scripts were nothing. Turns out they're just sitting right there in the data.bin archive, completely uncompressed and unencrypted.

Just a little cleaning to separate them and match them with the archive's directory structure and voila.

Mcjon01
December 11th, 2011, 07:22 PM
Soooo, what? Is there some kind of tool out there to extract them? Did you have to make something yourself? PS2 stuff is foreign to me.

I have RN, but I want them scripts, is what I'm saying. Actually playing the game to compare the differences with the original can be so damn tedious. <_<

Rowanism
December 11th, 2011, 07:42 PM
Hmm I doubt there would be anything significantly interesting new. Welp.

Hyarion
December 11th, 2011, 07:45 PM
Ah, sorry about that. Nah, I'm talking about popping the disk into your DVD drive and going in there with a hex editor. Most of the stuff in the archives is unusable as-is and needs to be decompressed, pieced back together or whatnot, but surprisingly enough the raw script is gloriously readable.

...But if you're going to go to that much trouble anyways, well -- assuming you don't care about the kirikiri code and just want to see the script differences, I can always dig out my side-by-side comparison folders.

CrimsonMoonMist
December 11th, 2011, 07:45 PM
Tsukihime Remake WHERE??

Mcjon01
December 11th, 2011, 07:47 PM
...But if you're going to go to that much trouble anyways, well -- assuming you don't care about the kirikiri code and just want to see the script differences, I can always dig out my side-by-side comparison folders.

That would be kind of awesome if it's not too much trouble. I don't really mind the kirikiri stuff, I've spent so much time looking at the FSN scripts I can practically read it. :p

Abaddon
December 11th, 2011, 07:57 PM
Tsukihime Remake WHERE??

In your wet dreams. :neco_arc:

Hyarion
December 11th, 2011, 08:00 PM
That would be kind of awesome if it's not too much trouble. I don't really mind the kirikiri stuff, I've spent so much time looking at the FSN scripts I can practically read it. :p

Mh, what I mean is that I pulled out most of the code from the versions I work with. Makes it easier to see just what's changed when you run a side-by-side.

I'll let you know when I work out which of these script folders are which.

Mcjon01
December 11th, 2011, 08:06 PM
That's fine too! (I'm not hard to please.)

Kotonoha
December 12th, 2011, 11:39 AM
"According to HibiChika radio, the PC download edition of "Fate/stay night [Realta Nua]" will go on sale on Amazon on December 23rd."

Humanity6, always providing delicious information

Now then, can filthy gaijins buy downloads on Amazon? Just from poking around on there it looks like we can, but I'm not sure.

Kotonoha
December 12th, 2011, 01:06 PM
Doublepost

Listened to the radio show (so... pointless...), they did specifically say the Saber route is the one that's going on sale that day.

So I guess they're splitting the routes after all. dammit

Milbunk
December 12th, 2011, 01:08 PM
Why in the world would they do that? To make more money is my guess.

Mcjon01
December 12th, 2011, 01:08 PM
Ah, separate route downloads. That was all the rage, what, two years ago? Type Moon so slow. But at least they'll probably all be pretty cheap.

Kotonoha
December 12th, 2011, 01:09 PM
It's so you can now enjoy FSN the way it was originally intended, without HF.

/trolo

Milbunk
December 12th, 2011, 01:12 PM
Nah I would prefer they didn't get no Fate or UBW in my HF.

bahamut zero
December 12th, 2011, 01:13 PM
Ah, separate route downloads. That was all the rage, what, two years ago? Type Moon so slow. But at least they'll probably all be pretty cheap.

inb4 "5k Yen each"

Kotonoha
December 12th, 2011, 01:13 PM
Nah I would prefer they didn't get no Fate or UBW in my HF.

Yes, that's right, keep your inferior HF segregated from our decent routes.

>:3


inb4 "5k Yen each"

Better not be more than 2000y per route :|

bahamut zero
December 12th, 2011, 01:15 PM
Better not be more than 2000y per route :|

It's Type-Moon

Mike1984
December 12th, 2011, 01:15 PM
Why in the world would they do that? To make more money is my guess.

More money, of course. They can charge more for the three routes seperately than they can for one copy with all three routes on it. Quite possibly three times more, in fact, especially if a lot of people just buy one of them....

Keyne
December 12th, 2011, 01:16 PM
I put the text in the info on typemoon.com through uncle Google's translator yesterday. It said that the routes will be divided.

Milbunk
December 12th, 2011, 01:17 PM
All I can say is that this money better get me some more Type-Moon. I expect either the Tsukihime remake or a new UC with zero characters and Kuzuki added in.

Kotonoha
December 12th, 2011, 01:20 PM
I put the text in the info on typemoon.com through uncle Google's translator yesterday. It said that the routes will be divided.

That's great. But we already knew that and weren't exactly sure what "divided" was supposed to mean, now we do.


a new UC with zero characters

Oh fear not, I see tons of milking in Zero's future.

At least FSN milking gives me things I enjoy ;_;

Milbunk
December 12th, 2011, 01:22 PM
To Koto: You should know that HF is the dominant route, after all Nasu knows that he should save the best for last.

Mike1984
December 12th, 2011, 01:25 PM
That's great. But we already knew that and weren't exactly sure what "divided" was supposed to mean, now we do.

Well, we still don't know what it'll mean in terms of the content, especially when it comes to HF....

Kotonoha
December 12th, 2011, 01:28 PM
To Koto: You should know that HF is the dominant route, after all Nasu knows that he should save the best for last.

Actually, according to an interview I read, Nasu thought of adding HF at the last minute. :D


Well, we still don't know what it'll mean in terms of the content, especially when it comes to HF....

True. Wonder if each game will begin with the prologue and stuff or what.

Milbunk
December 12th, 2011, 01:30 PM
Oh I just hope that whatever they do they do it good. If they improve the routes by making some changes and possibly a retcon I won't complain.

Lianru
December 12th, 2011, 01:32 PM
True. Wonder if each game will begin with the prologue and stuff or what.
"We included more text overall, therefore it should be more expensive!"

bahamut zero
December 12th, 2011, 01:48 PM
prologue will be additional DLC; for each route, around 3k yen~

Kotonoha
December 12th, 2011, 01:49 PM
For 1000 yen, they will add armour to Pegasus in the CGs as DLC.

Milbunk
December 12th, 2011, 01:52 PM
If you are willing to go platinum for an extra payment of 2000 yen, you can get 20 remixes of Emiya added in at new random intervals.

Mcjon01
December 12th, 2011, 01:53 PM
For 1000 yen, they will add stripes to everything in the Matou household as DLC.

Everything.

bahamut zero
December 12th, 2011, 01:55 PM
for 50.000 yen, they will replace shirou with shiki

Lianru
December 12th, 2011, 02:02 PM
I would buy that.

Mcjon01
December 12th, 2011, 02:04 PM
For 500,000 yen you can download a patch that updates the game into the Tsukihime remake, which has been finished for years.

Lianru
December 12th, 2011, 02:05 PM
....You fiend.
D:

Milbunk
December 12th, 2011, 02:10 PM
For 1,000,000 yen Nasu will write one route of your choice.

Keyne
December 12th, 2011, 02:21 PM
1,000,000,000 yen - Nasu recreates his virginity and gives it to you along with the route of your choice.

Lianru
December 12th, 2011, 02:21 PM
Ew, what?

Kotonoha
December 12th, 2011, 02:24 PM
I think we've just created Nasu's Kickstarter page.

mewarmo990
December 12th, 2011, 02:29 PM
Don't forget about the Bellerophon Horse Armor DLC coming out in 6 months. 800 yen per set.

terraablaze
December 12th, 2011, 02:57 PM
For 1000 yen, they will add armour to Pegasus in the CGs as DLC.

I sure hope we didn't forget seeing how it was just posted today on the previous page.

eddyak
December 12th, 2011, 03:06 PM
Also, for 6k yen, Saber gets her Lily outfit, as well as Caliburn, and for a small price, canon is changed so that Caliburn was the one that does great big beams of light instead.

Kotonoha
December 12th, 2011, 03:17 PM
Don't forget about the Bellerophon Horse Armor DLC coming out in 6 months. 800 yen per set.

I made that joke already!

edit

I sure hope we didn't forget seeing how it was just posted today on the previous page.

You pointed out that I made that joke already already!

mewarmo990
December 12th, 2011, 03:49 PM
I sure hope we didn't forget seeing how it was just posted today on the previous page.
Sorry for not having time to be on 24 hours a day.

What about weapon DLC codes in Morning Rescue bottlecaps?

You can get Merodach but it's actually just a shitty reskin of Caliburn.

terraablaze
December 12th, 2011, 03:54 PM
No problem. It's my civic duty to point out when people aren't as original as they think they are.

Nerroth
December 12th, 2011, 04:03 PM
I think it would be neat if they added an option to have Archer's epilogue in UBW finish with his summoning in Fate/Extra.

bahamut zero
December 12th, 2011, 04:08 PM
I think it would be neat if they added an option to have Archer's epilogue in UBW finish with his summoning in Fate/Extra.

8k yen~

Kotonoha
December 12th, 2011, 04:15 PM
But seriously though for all our talk of DLC it doesn't seem like they're adding any new content.

Mcjon01
December 12th, 2011, 04:28 PM
Well of course not. It was in the original announcement, and they were very clear about it.

Which is, of course, why everybody immediately started speculating about what the new content could be, because we all apparently enjoy setting ourselves up for disappointment then blaming Type Moon for not delivering. :p

Kotonoha
December 12th, 2011, 04:34 PM
I like to crush people's hopes.

Keyne
December 12th, 2011, 05:22 PM
I wonder how the interface will look like. And how they will implement the Last Episode.

Hen_Ichi
December 13th, 2011, 03:53 PM
Last Episode at the end of each part.

The resultant rage will destroy the Earth roughly December 21st next year.

Keyne
December 13th, 2011, 04:21 PM
Last Episode at the end of each part.

The resultant rage will destroy the Earth roughly December 21st next year.
That would be hilarious!

mewarmo990
December 13th, 2011, 04:24 PM
Every ending is a Happy Ending for Saber?

Milbunk
December 13th, 2011, 04:29 PM
Oh maybe we might learn more about Caster's first Master. I can dream right?

Mcjon01
December 13th, 2011, 04:31 PM
Yes, because they're still not adding anything new. That hasn't changed over the last two days.

Milbunk
December 13th, 2011, 04:31 PM
Yeah I know, but that still won't stop me from hoping that they might.

Mcjon01
December 13th, 2011, 04:57 PM
Well, okay. Just please don't blame Type Moon this time for not doing something they said they aren't going to do from the very start, k? :p

Milbunk
December 13th, 2011, 04:58 PM
Yeah I won't treat this like I did Tamamo, don't worry about that.

Hen_Ichi
December 13th, 2011, 05:43 PM
Last Episode at the end of each part.

The resultant rage will destroy the Earth roughly December 21st next year.Or even...

Last Episode for Fate - with UBW and HF each getting their own after stories... generating an entire new generation of endless debate, fangasms and hate sufficient to deflect attention away from Tsukihime Remake and Girl's Work!

Diabolical! :neco_arc:

Touko
December 14th, 2011, 09:40 PM
Well, okay. Just please don't blame Type Moon this time for not doing something they said they aren't going to do from the very start, k? :p

Fate

Really Last Episode

Shirou: I am home.

Sakura: Go pick up the kids, fool!

Hyarion
December 14th, 2011, 10:08 PM
December 22nd: Nasu announces that the Realta Nua PC edition has been delayed to "Winter 2012", allowing him time to polish up and reinsert the long-lost Ayako route (that BAR, man. Seems like half of Fuyuki saw it.)

mangafreak7793
December 14th, 2011, 10:36 PM
December 22nd: Nasu announces that the Realta Nua PC edition has been delayed to "Winter 2012", allowing him time to polish up and reinsert the long-lost Ayako route (that BAR, man. Seems like half of Fuyuki saw it.)

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6649174/1/Carens_Wondrous_Plan_to_Take_Over_the_World

Hen_Ichi
December 15th, 2011, 02:11 PM
Further RAGE! as the long awaited Ayako route is revealed to be all about Caren!

mewarmo990
December 16th, 2011, 09:32 AM
Official PC version site (http://www.typemoon.com/products/fate_dl/index.html) is up. No DLC...

BUT WE GET EPISODIC CONTENT! Only 2800 yen per route, everyone!


...dicks.

terraablaze
December 16th, 2011, 09:34 AM
So in other words its going to cost about the same as the original PC version?

mewarmo990
December 16th, 2011, 09:37 AM
2800 yen = 36 US dollars per route.

We get to pay 108 bucks for the whole game!

...what was the point again? Other than to gouge the fan base, of course.

On the bright side, the PC gaming industry will finally see its first successful implementation of planned, episodic game releases. Too bad Gabe Newell will never hear about it.

terraablaze
December 16th, 2011, 09:40 AM
Someone could e-mail him about it, but something tells me he won't care.

mewarmo990
December 16th, 2011, 09:42 AM
He'd probably reply, actually. He actually reads his fan mail every day.

But yeah he'd say something like "if this is some roundabout way of persuading us to release HL2ep3, it's not working."

terraablaze
December 16th, 2011, 10:26 AM
Well, that and the situation here is completely different.

Anyway, why does the Heaven's Feel page have a shot from Unlimited Blade Works?

SeiKeo
December 16th, 2011, 10:44 AM
36 dollars per route.

...well, I suppose it's pretty reasonable for getting a US release, but ​damn.

Kotonoha
December 16th, 2011, 10:46 AM
It's okay though, nobody's going to buy HF.

Rowanism
December 16th, 2011, 11:31 AM
It's okay though, nobody's going to buy UBW.
Yeah lol

Milbunk
December 16th, 2011, 11:32 AM
I'd buy HF, if I had a job or money or a decent computer.

Kotonoha
December 16th, 2011, 11:37 AM
It's okay though, nobody's going to buy HF.
Yeah lol
Glad you agree with me!

Milbunk
December 16th, 2011, 11:39 AM
We should team up to destroy the people who want to buy Fate. With our combined power they wouldn't stand a chance.

Kotollama
December 16th, 2011, 11:41 AM
It's okay though, nobody's going to buy Saber route.

ijiwaruuuui

Kotonoha
December 16th, 2011, 11:43 AM
We should team up to destroy the people who want to buy Fate. With our combined power they wouldn't stand a chance.

Ha. Your pitiful numbers can never win against a popular heroine, peasant. Know your place.

Milbunk
December 16th, 2011, 11:44 AM
Sakura is the number 1 heroine, anyone who doesn't believe that is only deceiving themselves from the one and ultimate truth. (Medea is second.)

terraablaze
December 16th, 2011, 11:47 AM
I will probably buy Unlimited Blade Works, then Fate, then Heaven's Feel. Or maybe Fate last, I don't know either than I am buying Unlimited Blade Works first once I get the money.

Kotonoha
December 16th, 2011, 11:48 AM
Sakura is the number 1 heroine

OOOOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO!

How utterly ridiculous. A heroine who consistently loses to a male side character in popularity polls can't even be called a heroine! The only ones deceiving themselves are her tiny fanbase who desperately try to deny this truth!


(Medea is second.)

And not even the most deluded fan could believe Caster is a heroine! Actually, does she even have fans? She doesn't, does she? Nobody likes Caster.

Milbunk
December 16th, 2011, 11:49 AM
I bet that this is Nasu's plan to see which route is the most popular. Whichever route sells the most will be getting 4 sequels along with a 50 episode exclusive anime that has a budget to reach the stars.

We may be the smallest of the three. But our wills are made of steel and not even the gods shall shake our might to see the purple haired girl rise to the top.

Mcjon01
December 16th, 2011, 11:52 AM
Yeah lol

It's funny because personal preferences are irrelevant to the fact that HF is objectively the least popular route!

Kotonoha
December 16th, 2011, 11:53 AM
We may be the smallest of the three. But our wills are made of steel and not even the gods shall shake our might to see the purple haired girl rise to the top.

You will wait forever, and that day will never come.

I pity you.

Milbunk
December 16th, 2011, 11:56 AM
As long as we remain faithful then it will all be worth it in the end.

terraablaze
December 16th, 2011, 11:56 AM
The gods laugh at those who use their wills of steel to fight the inevitable, I guess.

Kotonoha
December 16th, 2011, 11:58 AM
You will wait for Sakura's popularity forever. Every spring you will think "it's spring again".

Then one day, after many years have passed, you will look among the flowering cherry blossoms on the hill road and see...

Nothing. Then you'll die of old age.

This is the fate of Sakura fans.

Milbunk
December 16th, 2011, 11:59 AM
It really depends on the type of God we are talking about here. Is it a Greek god? Egyptian maybe? How about one of them Incan or Sumerian ones?

That may be true, but at least it will be worth it in the end. Better than the fools who switch from person to person depending on their own fancy for the day.

VelspertheCat
December 16th, 2011, 11:59 AM
So when is the Taiga route going to be made?

*ignores everyone else*

Kotonoha
December 16th, 2011, 12:00 PM
The gods of Type-Moon.

They will never smile upon Sakura.

Milbunk
December 16th, 2011, 12:01 PM
They've done it once then they can do it again.

Sherrinford
December 16th, 2011, 12:05 PM
So when is the Taiga route going to be made?

*ignores everyone else*

Neko-san route.

*crosses arms*

VelspertheCat
December 16th, 2011, 12:06 PM
Neko-san route.

*crosses arms*

It's a dual heroine route too?! *eyes sparkle*

Sherrinford
December 16th, 2011, 12:09 PM
It's a dual heroine route too?! *eyes sparkle*

Maybe?

Anyway, I want a Neko-san route.

Mcjon01
December 16th, 2011, 12:11 PM
So back in the days of Tsukihime character polls, Satsuki had a reputation as "Ciel Killer Yumizuka", since even though she was less popular overall she was nevertheless able to leech votes away from Ciel. At first I thought Illya or Rider might be playing this role with Sakura, but looking into more deeply, it seems that Sakura is the less popular one stealing votes away from Rider. :3

Altima of the Gates
December 16th, 2011, 02:10 PM
Has there even been a popularity poll after that "All TM" one in 2009?