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Bargadiel
March 14th, 2011, 12:23 PM
So I re-watched the movie again, honestly I still love it; despite it's errors here and there. Buuuuut I noticed one thing of interest within the movies timeframe;

Kotomine 2x
Shinji
Gilgamesh
Caster
Shirou
Archer
Lancer 2x

Under close analysis, you will notice that none of these characters died when they were killed.

Kotonoha
March 14th, 2011, 12:39 PM
Oh you, Barg.

Erlkonig
March 14th, 2011, 12:41 PM
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu-

Bargadiel
March 14th, 2011, 12:41 PM
:|

ashdgashdasgdghas10characterlimit

lethum
March 14th, 2011, 12:42 PM
Oh my! How facetious!

Bargadiel
March 14th, 2011, 01:00 PM
=▄=

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g293/Bargadiel/KotoLancer.png

Kotonoha
March 14th, 2011, 02:05 PM
Oh god, the look on Kotomine's face.

Keyne
March 14th, 2011, 02:08 PM
DOGPILE ON LANCER! *jumps* WHEE!!

Tobias
March 14th, 2011, 02:36 PM
I stand by the only anaylsis I have ever made.



KOJIRO DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY

Bargadiel
March 14th, 2011, 02:57 PM
Kojiro could have! Since caster died he should have died, but he didn't. Even if the plot explained it away, he still didn't die when killed! ffffffffffff

eddyak
March 14th, 2011, 02:58 PM
I think he meant the Tsubame Gaeshi thing.

Tobias
March 14th, 2011, 02:59 PM
No no, my first real reaction came when kojiro kept getting into bladelocks with saber and directly blocking her attacks.


It made me nerd raeg

eddyak
March 14th, 2011, 03:00 PM
Oh, that. Me too, actually.

SWORDS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY

hero
March 14th, 2011, 03:02 PM
Seiiba can cancel Tsubame Gaeishi and sword rain with her royal slash!

Bargadiel
March 14th, 2011, 03:05 PM
Oooh I see what you mean now,

Seiibaaaaa can do anything she wants to do!

eddyak
March 14th, 2011, 03:09 PM
Able to leap the tallest buildings!

Bargadiel
March 14th, 2011, 03:10 PM
Able to eat the greatest quantity of foods!

Erlkonig
March 14th, 2011, 05:02 PM
Able to tame the strongest of the lion plushies!

Tobias
March 14th, 2011, 05:05 PM
and sell a million products and even a game she wasnt actually in!

Bargadiel
March 14th, 2011, 05:19 PM
Within a single fiscal year!

TypeWannabe
March 14th, 2011, 05:23 PM
Lol, you guys reminded me of the part where she blew all Gilgamesh's NP's away with one strike. I mean, sure, that's pretty much what the text said happened in the VN, but it was still lulzworthy.

AstralSword
March 14th, 2011, 06:45 PM
Lol, you guys reminded me of the part where she blew all Gilgamesh's NP's away with one strike. I mean, sure, that's pretty much what the text said happened in the VN, but it was still lulzworthy.

Saber was a real troll in this scene. I don't believe she would improve so much to be able to do this just by having switched her master from Shirou to Rin.

...Oh, that's right.

Tobias
March 14th, 2011, 06:46 PM
*snark detector explodes*

Erlkonig
March 14th, 2011, 06:50 PM
But the greatest question is... Can she move her own Ahoge?

Bargadiel
March 14th, 2011, 07:36 PM
but the greatest question is... Can she move her own ahoge?

Ohhhshiiiiiii-

Ragnar
March 14th, 2011, 09:38 PM
But the greatest question is... Can she move her own Ahoge?

http://img852.imageshack.us/img852/5340/ahogecopter.jpg (http://img852.imageshack.us/i/ahogecopter.jpg/)
Of course.

hbomb
March 14th, 2011, 09:40 PM
Sabercopter?

Tobias
March 14th, 2011, 09:40 PM
the hell am I looking at?

eddyak
March 14th, 2011, 09:42 PM
It's her hidden Noble Phantasm. It allows her to leap 4 kilometers in a single bound, avoid unavoidable attacks, and, when used as a Broken Phantasm, allows her to turn into her dark form, Saber Alter.

Elf
March 14th, 2011, 11:26 PM
You know, it's sad, but the best part of this movie was Shinji's rape dance and giggle.

I mean, no one even completely says the UBW chant, there's all the weird shit with Saber . . .

Counterguardian
March 14th, 2011, 11:35 PM
No, the best part was THIS

http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad315/Counterguardian/General/vlcsnap-2011-03-15-14h22m20s52.png


Admit it, you guys lol'd when you first saw that.

Kotonoha
March 14th, 2011, 11:38 PM
So I think you can both agree then, the best part of UBW was Shinji?

Naturally.

ItsaRandomUsername
March 15th, 2011, 12:05 AM
You thought so too? :>

AstralSword
March 15th, 2011, 12:14 AM
So I think you can both agree then, the best part of UBW was Shinji?

Naturally.

I hate do admit it, but yes. He is so predictable that it hurts to see him getting manipulated by both Kotomine and Zouken. I guess I don't need to mention Gil on this.

It was good because he is by far the most suited master in the war. A real master should put obtaining the grail above all and everyone, and Shinji sure as hell does that.

Talking about the best scene in the movie, I believe it would be the fight between Archer and Shirou. It was able to grasp very well the epicness in the original.


I mean, no one even completely says the UBW chant, there's all the weird shit with Saber . . .

I hated the half chanted stuff. Honestly, the Shirou one was bad, really really. And by "weird shit" you mean Saber getting one of Archer's swords to fight him or this?

http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAAF0Elz8ZlIc2kSLrg6GT3S6wgrbSCVb05ch5wAxOTZnIRX nvo3IBKe4TFVvfg9lClWVfaK8wvFKq1icxk3hfbcwAm1T1UOyy KF_HdCv4RkqaE5dgyQcq5U-3.jpg

SeiKeo
March 15th, 2011, 12:27 AM
If we're looking for weird shit, that's about all we need.

Counterguardian
March 15th, 2011, 12:27 AM
I am so saving this pic.

Bargadiel
March 15th, 2011, 01:31 AM
No, the best part was THIS

http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad315/Counterguardian/General/vlcsnap-2011-03-15-14h22m20s52.png


Admit it, you guys lol'd when you first saw that.

I admit to lolling especially at how dramatically the camera zoomed into it.

Also that image of caster and saber has scarred me, in possibly a good way...?

FlameStrike
March 15th, 2011, 02:08 PM
Yeah, Shinji was hilarious in UBW. The main thing that made me RAGE was the actual Gilgamesh vs Shirou fight. I WAS WAITING ALL MOVIE FOR EPIC SWORD SPAM. It was supposed to be an Epic Blade Rain vs Blade Storm, a clash of Blade Works vs Gates! But leave it to DEEN to fuck it up. Why the hell even use UBW if you're not going to shoot swords? *sigh* Even with a movie budget they fuck up all the details. From Kojiro's blade locks to Shirou's Unlimited Pick Swords Out of the Ground Works. The only thing they got right was Shinji. Ah well, at least the fights were fun to watch.

Mike1984
March 15th, 2011, 02:30 PM
Well, I'm pretty sure that, in game, Shirou and Gil did actually fight using the swords in their hands. They just used sword-spam as well.

Keyne
March 15th, 2011, 02:47 PM
Also that image of caster and saber has scarred me, in possibly a good way...?
You're now craving for a long, pointy, drill-shaped, metal object up your ass. Have fun.

eddyak
March 15th, 2011, 02:49 PM
Would've been better if Caster were holding the drill part. She has a new wand!

DoomRavager
March 15th, 2011, 03:14 PM
No, the best part was THIS

http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad315/Counterguardian/General/vlcsnap-2011-03-15-14h22m20s52.png


Admit it, you guys lol'd when you first saw that.

And then koto where's that damn strikethrough someone, one of Nahash's many incarnations maybe? went and modded it.

http://i54.tinypic.com/dcx5d0.jpg

Kotonoha
March 15th, 2011, 03:18 PM
That wasn't me. That was... I don't even remember, one of Nahash's many incarnations maybe?

DoomRavager
March 15th, 2011, 03:21 PM
Oh, my bad. Looks kinda interesting though. Making Shinji a "just as planned lolol" Chessmaster.

Bargadiel
March 16th, 2011, 11:46 AM
Or a master trollfacer.

Rejan
March 16th, 2011, 11:54 AM
Shinji looks sadistic even if he's swallowed by the corrupted HG.

Keyne
March 16th, 2011, 11:56 AM
Shinji looks sadistic even if he's swallowed by the corrupted HG.

That's Sakura's vag000. :|

Kotonoha
March 16th, 2011, 11:57 AM
That's why he looks so happy in the second pic.

eddyak
March 16th, 2011, 11:59 AM
They're in the wrong order. First comes happiness, then comes "ohshitohshitohshit I can't escape!"

Rejan
March 16th, 2011, 12:03 PM
That's Sakura's vag000. :|

I'm referring to the pic above liao.

Keyne
March 16th, 2011, 12:07 PM
I'm referring to the pic above liao.

I'm referring to both. :3

Kotonoha
March 16th, 2011, 12:13 PM
But seriously though, Shinji never looks sadistic!

...

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a180/niranira/Shinji/icame.jpg

Keyne
March 16th, 2011, 12:15 PM
Aaww.. look how happy he is. He's smiling. *u*

AstralSword
March 16th, 2011, 09:30 PM
Yep. Shinji is kind of moelicious in this pic.

I am so GAR for him! http://www.jcafe24.net/Smileys/onions/lovelove.gif

TypeWannabe
March 16th, 2011, 09:36 PM
What if Shinji was raping Saber, as she was in the forest when they were running away from Berserker in Fate?

AstralSword
March 16th, 2011, 09:41 PM
What if Shinji was raping Saber, as she was in the forest when they were running away from Berserker in Fate?

Well, I am more interested to know HOW would Shinji be able to rape Saber in the first place. Shirou and Tohsaka were there, and even if they weren't, Saber would prefer to kill herself before being raped by anyone (which wouldn't be so hard, as she was pretty much disappearing at the time).

Kotonoha
March 16th, 2011, 09:43 PM
How would that make any sense?

Cruor
March 16th, 2011, 10:00 PM
Aaww.. look how happy he is. He's smiling. *u*

Y'know, that reminds me of a line Elmer says in Baccano! Pretty much a psycho just killed a bunch of people and a lot of people are saying the guy is beyond help as people were saying he was smiling his ass off while doing it. Elmer goes 'well, if he was smiling I guess things might work out!'. But yeah, Elmer's actually downright evil.

Mike1984
March 16th, 2011, 10:03 PM
Saber would prefer to kill herself before being raped by anyone (which wouldn't be so hard, as she was pretty much disappearing at the time).

Well, more to the point, she would prefer to kill Shinji before letting him rape her....

AstralSword
March 16th, 2011, 10:52 PM
Well, more to the point, she would prefer to kill Shinji before letting him rape her....

That was the most obvious choice, but since she wasn't capable of backing Shirou off after he picked her up in his arms, I believe she wouldn't be strong enough to even stand by herself, let alone swing a sword.

Otherwise, Shinji is really dead meat.


How would that make any sense?

It woudn't, after all Saber was in that state because she used Excalibur to kill Rider, using her prana supply up. And Shinji was pretty much dead at this time, so this is a paradox.

Also, what would it be like if she had the proper prana supply when she fought Kojirou? She only fainted there because she was already almost out of prana at the time.

Edit: Crap. Forget it. I mixed things up. She fought Kojirou first, then killed Rider. Yeah. My bad. Maybe I need to replay the game in some parts.

Bargadiel
March 17th, 2011, 12:14 AM
What if Shinji tried to rape berserker in the woods? Or rather, if berserker tried to rape Shin- ....ohwait it happened in fate route.

AstralSword
March 17th, 2011, 12:23 AM
Well, what happened to Shinji in the fate route can be called "rape" in a very peculiar way.

He was literally turned into a puddle of blood and minced meat in a single blow.

...Looking at it from this point, Sakura went actually easy on him in Heaven's feel route.

gemini-saga
March 18th, 2011, 04:00 PM
I thought the move was Solid, did some good things and failed in others.

For an Archer/Shirou fan, I think the movie was good!

AstralSword
March 18th, 2011, 07:13 PM
Yeah. It had its flaws, but overall the movie was outstanding.

DEEN still needs to redeem itself, but this movie was at least a nice start.