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EnigmaticFellow
October 14th, 2012, 10:46 PM
For the next mafia game, I decided that it will be a non-lockdown variant. This means that private chatting will be allowed by all players. In addition, this game will also have Nasuverse elements in it as roles, most notably Dead Apostle.

Anyways, here is the signup list

Also, don't let the initial number prevent you from signing up should it be filled. I'll increase the number of players should we get enough players. The next point after 14 is 30. If at least 16 more players sign up after 14 players sign up, I will increase the cap to 30.

Signup List

1. Erlkonig
2. RR121
3. Aces
4. Spinach
5. Enhance
6. Satehi
7. Blacksword
8. Chaos Greyblood
9. Katie
10. gesalt
11. Yun
12. Bloble
13. Raven2785
14. Reynal
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15. Mike1984
16. Detective Blackstone
17. 2ndsly

Chaos Greyblood
October 14th, 2012, 10:52 PM
Ok, I'll bite.

Katie
October 14th, 2012, 10:56 PM
i am in guys

gesalt
October 14th, 2012, 10:57 PM
sign me right up

Yun
October 14th, 2012, 11:03 PM
As mentioned in #notes sign me up please.

Enhance
October 14th, 2012, 11:25 PM
~~ The next point after 14 is 30

Wait, what? Isn't that a bit too much? I'd say more like 20~25 at most

Bloble
October 14th, 2012, 11:32 PM
I'll join. The last game looked awesome from outside (BTW voting Mike for best Mafia player) and I'd like to get in on this crazy train.

Highwayman
October 14th, 2012, 11:32 PM
Hmm, I'd have to agree with Enhance on that.

In any case, please put me down for another round.

Edit: Mike definitely was efficient. I'm not certain we would have won as quickly without him.

Black Sword
October 14th, 2012, 11:33 PM
Broble! Enhance! I hope we're on the same side!

Bloble
October 14th, 2012, 11:34 PM
Broble! Enhance! I hope we're on the same side!

I hope so too. But on the off chance we aren't, I won't hold back!

Also I hope Mike joins this. He seems like a fun person to play with (also scarily efficient).

Black Sword
October 14th, 2012, 11:38 PM
Come at me, Broble! (in case we are not on the same side)

If Mike joins, I think he's the first corpse. People have seen him in action, so he's gained priority murderin' status.

Enhance
October 14th, 2012, 11:42 PM
If Mike joins, I think he's the first corpse.
Totally. If not for efficiency, then for the lulz.

Highwayman
October 14th, 2012, 11:42 PM
Well, I suppose the doctor knows who to protect, then. Seriously, I hope there's space for Mike if he still wants in.

EnigmaticFellow
October 14th, 2012, 11:43 PM
~~ The next point after 14 is 30

Wait, what? Isn't that a bit too much? I'd say more like 20~25 at most

30 isn't that bad. It allows for a village of 20 people, 2 mafia factions with four members each, as well as 2 neutrals.

Enhance
October 14th, 2012, 11:45 PM
Too much for a forum game. Too much talk and too much suspicions. I'd rather go for quick-20 people games than 30-clusterfuck.

Bloble
October 14th, 2012, 11:46 PM
30 isn't that bad. It allows for a village of 20 people, 2 mafia factions with four members each, as well as 2 neutrals.

Holy shit that is complex. And here I thought playing in a classroom of 30 highschoolers was bad. I never even knew you could have multiple factions.

Enhance
October 14th, 2012, 11:46 PM
oh and this time please set all rules/exceptions in the thread. Had I known Mafia's actions take priority, I could've thought of something.

EnigmaticFellow
October 14th, 2012, 11:51 PM
oh and this time please set all rules/exceptions in the thread. Had I known Mafia's actions take priority, I could've thought of something.

In the mafia games that I take part in, the GMs never list how priority works until after the game ends. Also, I will be stating additional rules, if they are meant to be made public, in the game thread.

Black Sword
October 14th, 2012, 11:55 PM
I approve, EF. The less that is known for fact, the more paranoid everyone becomes!

Raven2785
October 14th, 2012, 11:58 PM
The first thread looked like fun so sign me up capt.

Reynel
October 15th, 2012, 12:10 AM
Hey, put me in!

Mike1984
October 15th, 2012, 06:45 AM
Damnit, why did you put this up when I was in bed?

I'd like to join, anyway.

Mike1984
October 15th, 2012, 07:06 AM
In the mafia games that I take part in, the GMs never list how priority works until after the game ends. Also, I will be stating additional rules, if they are meant to be made public, in the game thread.

Well, whilst it shouldn't necessarily be public, you probably should have at least told the Mafia that, in their role PM (and possibly the Vigilante, too). Otherwise it's basically just random.

Erlkonig
October 15th, 2012, 07:34 AM
EF we'll never get 30 players give up on that

Fingolfin
October 15th, 2012, 08:42 AM
I'll give this another go.

Black Sword
October 15th, 2012, 09:17 AM
Four applicants, one open slot. I vote they fight to the death for it.

Yun
October 15th, 2012, 11:39 AM
tbh in the first couple of mafia games I'd rather have more players and less balance over more balance and less players due to mafia working best with a large player base to choose from.

EF we'll never get 30 players give up on thatPerhaps a 22 or 24 player game?(something like 16/5/1 or 17/5/2)

Mike1984
October 15th, 2012, 11:43 AM
Larger games seem easier to balance, in any case, simply because killing the right or wrong person on the first day doesn't essentially decide the game.

I'm not sure the previous game was balanced, though, it was simply too easy for the town to win once we found the Godfather, despite losing the cop on day 1.

gesalt
October 15th, 2012, 11:46 AM
well the lack of mason roles should make it a bit harder for a villager victory but multiple hostile factions help balancing too. and yes a larger player pool always helps

Mike1984
October 15th, 2012, 12:07 PM
I don't think it was at all clear that there would be a lack of mason roles here....

Enhance
October 15th, 2012, 12:20 PM
Masons are so damn OP.

Mike1984
October 15th, 2012, 12:27 PM
Not really. They're useful, yes, but they're not totally broken. If you'd killed one of them before they revealed, then they'd have been worthless.

EnigmaticFellow
October 15th, 2012, 12:52 PM
EF we'll never get 30 players give up on that

Perhaps, or perhaps not. Either way, I'll try to incorperate as much players I can in this game with balanced numbers.

RR121
October 15th, 2012, 01:18 PM
30 Applicants? Good luck with that. I'm aiming for 21 tops on my Diplo variant.

EnigmaticFellow
October 15th, 2012, 01:21 PM
30 Applicants? Good luck with that. I'm aiming for 21 tops on my Diplo variant.

Realistically speaking, I'll probably get up to around the low twenties, but having high goals doesn't hurt me much in this case.

Enhance
October 15th, 2012, 02:02 PM
See you in a week?


Not really. They're useful, yes, but they're not totally broken. If you'd killed one of them before they revealed, then they'd have been worthless.
Yeah, but in past case one of the most weightful reasons Mafia lost was because they claimed before one died.

Mike1984
October 15th, 2012, 02:26 PM
Yeah, but in past case one of the most weightful reasons Mafia lost was because they claimed before one died.

Yeah, and there is a reason why I was advocating that, but even so it only worked because I found the Godfather on day 1, which allowed us to both eliminate one of the Mafia and also to demonstrate the ID of one townie almost beyond all doubt.

Black Sword
October 15th, 2012, 02:40 PM
Mike, you got lucky. 1/13 odds, and you nailed the biggest threat on the first day. That's all it was.

Bloble
October 15th, 2012, 02:43 PM
Mike, you got lucky. 1/13 odds, and you nailed the biggest threat on the first day. That's all it was.

Not really. He had reason to suspect Blackstone thanks to his suspicious posts. Mafia isn't all numbers, it's also about discussion and not making yourself look suspicious.

Blackstone, I expect better from a man with Hikyou Banchou as his avatar! This time, show us all that avatar isn't just for show! Present us with some magnificent bastardy worthy of your title!

Yun
October 15th, 2012, 02:45 PM
Mike, you got lucky. 1/13 odds, and you nailed the biggest threat on the first day. That's all it was.That more of DB doing something inadvisable rather than Mike getting lucky.

Mike1984
October 15th, 2012, 02:46 PM
Well, I did still get lucky. Obviously, I chose to investigate him for a reason, but he could just as easily have been a goon, and I could have got an innocent result as the insane cop. Or, worse, the real cop could have survived and I got an innocent result on him....

Fingolfin
October 15th, 2012, 03:39 PM
Not really. He had reason to suspect Blackstone thanks to his suspicious posts. Mafia isn't all numbers, it's also about discussion and not making yourself look suspicious.

Blackstone, I expect better from a man with Hikyou Banchou as his avatar! This time, show us all that avatar isn't just for show! Present us with some magnificent bastardy worthy of your title!

To be honest, that was my first Mafia game and I had no idea what I was doing.

So, I just trolled as hard as I could.

I'll try to do better this time.

Bloble
October 15th, 2012, 04:00 PM
To be honest, that was my first Mafia game and I had no idea what I was doing.

So, I just trolled as hard as I could.

I'll try to do better this time.

That's what I like to hear, bro. Let's make this game of Mafia as epic as possible!

TypeWannabe
October 15th, 2012, 06:42 PM
That last game was pretty damn fun to read, and since I gather this is a game around deductions, logic, and all that mental stuff, sign me right up. I have to warn you though, I likely won't be posting a lot, because work wears me out pretty fast, and I'll probably be sleeping most of the days when I'm home.

Also, if I'm the doctor, I'm protecting Mike, ya'll other motherfuckers can go die.

Enhance
October 16th, 2012, 02:40 AM
So if Mike gets saved, we know whom to kill next.

EnigmaticFellow
October 16th, 2012, 01:19 PM
I think I'll be keeping the signup thread open until Thursday.

Yun
October 16th, 2012, 01:37 PM
@Ef You missed Mike's request to join awhile back.

Mike1984
October 16th, 2012, 01:48 PM
Yeah, also, I feel it's rather unfair that I should get excluded from the game by virtue of not being American, and therefore being in bed when the thread was posted....

EnigmaticFellow
October 16th, 2012, 02:05 PM
@Ef You missed Mike's request to join awhile back.


Yeah, also, I feel it's rather unfair that I should get excluded from the game by virtue of not being American, and therefore being in bed when the thread was posted....

Sorry, didn't notice it earlier. Got Mike added into the list now.

TypeWannabe
October 16th, 2012, 02:16 PM
Come to think of it, seeing as how this'll be a game based around the Nasuverse, the doctor should also have some ability to protect himself as well, seeing as how EVERYBODY in the setting can kick ass.

Raven2785
October 16th, 2012, 02:24 PM
Come to think of it, seeing as how this'll be a game based around the Nasuverse, the doctor should also have some ability to protect himself as well, seeing as how EVERYBODY in the setting can kick ass.

Don't try to get out of it, you already painted a target around your back.

You getting shanked.

EnigmaticFellow
October 16th, 2012, 02:41 PM
Come to think of it, seeing as how this'll be a game based around the Nasuverse, the doctor should also have some ability to protect himself as well, seeing as how EVERYBODY in the setting can kick ass.

I won't go into specifics about roles, but I can assure you that doctors won't be able to protect themselves through their own actions.

TypeWannabe
October 16th, 2012, 02:44 PM
Kotomine could kick ass, and he was a doctor...

Raven2785
October 16th, 2012, 03:02 PM
Kotomine could kick ass, and he was a doctor...

No, he was a priest who could troll with the best and do magic healing, there's a difference.

Bittersweet
October 16th, 2012, 03:06 PM
No, he was a priest who could troll with the best and do magic healing, there's a difference.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajLfYIHEqzk

Raven2785
October 16th, 2012, 03:12 PM
Bittersweet, have I ever told you that I love your sense of humor.

Yun
October 16th, 2012, 03:19 PM
Come to think of it, seeing as how this'll be a game based around the Nasuverse, the doctor should also have some ability to protect himself as well, seeing as how EVERYBODY in the setting can kick ass.Everyone except the poor normal civilians ie most the roles involved in the game kick ass but if I get bodyguard/elite bodyguard(do want) I'll watch your back.

2ndsly
October 16th, 2012, 03:34 PM
I'd like to sign up. Maybe I won't loss access to the Internet surfing the most important part of this one.

EnigmaticFellow
October 16th, 2012, 04:15 PM
Hey, if this keeps up, I could get a reasonable number of players.

Enhance
October 16th, 2012, 04:31 PM
"Reasonable" doesn't necessarily have to be "30" or any predefined number. Just get as much as you can before Thursday, and then we'll decide on in-game roles. There always is a reasonable role split for any amount of people.

Enhance
October 17th, 2012, 10:33 PM
Thursday is here. Game plz.

Chaos Greyblood
October 17th, 2012, 10:38 PM
It's still Wednesday from my end.

Raven2785
October 17th, 2012, 10:45 PM
same here.

Black Sword
October 17th, 2012, 10:48 PM
Enhance lives in the future. Game nao!

EnigmaticFellow
October 17th, 2012, 11:29 PM
Thursday is here. Game plz.

Not Thursday where I'm at. Besides, the game starts on Friday.

Enhance
October 17th, 2012, 11:35 PM
Can I start killing everyone when it's friday for me? :3

Highwayman
October 18th, 2012, 01:19 AM
I hate to cause trouble, but I need to withdraw from the game. I won't be able to reliably access the internet for the next couple of weeks due to some unexpected travel obligations.

My apologies to the GM and fellow players. :(

Enhance
October 18th, 2012, 06:52 AM
It's fine, Chacho! Looking forward to play with you when you're back.

EnigmaticFellow
October 18th, 2012, 07:19 AM
I hate to cause trouble, but I need to withdraw from the game. I won't be able to reliably access the internet for the next couple of weeks due to some unexpected travel obligations.

My apologies to the GM and fellow players. :(

Don't worry about it Chacho. It's much better to tell the GM this now rather than later when the game already started.

EnigmaticFellow
October 18th, 2012, 12:23 PM
Speaking of which, I will be closing the signups today by 6:00 p.m. EST.

Raven2785
October 18th, 2012, 12:28 PM
Also, before people start freaking out about me being missing I have to work for about 10-11 hours every day for the next 3 days, so don't suspect and/or shank me simply because I can't make it to the keyboard in time. I WILL be here to play the game, I'm just gonna be posting mostly at the end of the day, alright?

Black Sword
October 18th, 2012, 01:42 PM
Raven lies, he's really the godfather this time and is building a cover story before game starts

Raven2785
October 18th, 2012, 01:45 PM
Raven lies, he's really the godfather this time and is building a cover story before game starts

How? EF hasn't even given us roles yet.

That being said, being the Godfather would be lulzy.

Bloble
October 18th, 2012, 01:46 PM
Raven lies, he's really the godfather this time and is building a cover story before game starts

I'd agree with you if not for the fact that roles haven't even been assigned yet.

Which obviously means you're in cahoots with him! You're both mafia!

Black Sword
October 18th, 2012, 01:49 PM
LIES AND SLANDER! If I WERE in the Mafia, I'd accuse Mike, since no one would expect the crazy cop who saved the town at the cost of his life to be the new godfather! That means it's obvious that YOU'RE in the mafia and are looking to move up in the world by arranging your boss's death so you can take his place!

(I'm so glad you're here, Broble. This'll be fun~ :D)

Raven2785
October 18th, 2012, 01:53 PM
I'd agree with you if not for the fact that roles haven't even been assigned yet.

Which obviously means you're in cahoots with him! You're both mafia!


LIES AND SLANDER! If I WERE in the Mafia, I'd accuse Mike, since no one would expect the crazy cop who saved the town at the cost of his life to be the new godfather! That means it's obvious that YOU'RE in the mafia and are looking to move up in the world by arranging your boss's death so you can take his place!

(I'm so glad you're here, Broble. This'll be fun~ :D)

I agree with Black Sword, this will be fun, also it will get crazy very soon.

TypeWannabe
October 18th, 2012, 02:01 PM
I'm withdrawing.

Reynel
October 18th, 2012, 02:06 PM
I'm withdrawing.
No, you can't. I vote

Lynch Type Wannabe

Black Sword
October 18th, 2012, 02:08 PM
No, you can't. I vote

Lynch Type Wannabe

iamokwiththis.jpg

Lynch Type Wannabe

Raven2785
October 18th, 2012, 02:10 PM
I am thirding this motion.

Lynch Type Wannabe

EnigmaticFellow
October 18th, 2012, 06:00 PM
Well, Typewannabe is lynched and the signup thread is closed. Expect the game to start somewhere around tomorrow night.

Mike1984
October 18th, 2012, 06:02 PM
How many people are in?

EnigmaticFellow
October 18th, 2012, 06:08 PM
How many people are in?

17 unless we get any last minute drop outs, and don't worry Mike. I plan on incorporating all the players that have signed up into the game.

Lianru
October 18th, 2012, 06:48 PM
herp derp 50 minutes late

Mike1984
October 18th, 2012, 06:53 PM
17 unless we get any last minute drop outs, and don't worry Mike. I plan on incorporating all the players that have signed up into the game.

Ah, OK, good.

Bloble
October 18th, 2012, 07:22 PM
I'm interested in seeing what these new roles and factions can do.

THE SUSPENSE IS KILLING ME

AND THE VILLAGERS

WE MUST FIND A WAY TO SEAL IT'S POWER

Enhance
October 19th, 2012, 06:30 AM
Is it started yet?







How about now?







Still a no?

Black Sword
October 19th, 2012, 10:15 AM
Technically, we lynched TypeWannabe already. Now it's just a matter of waiting for EF to make it formal.

Mike1984
October 19th, 2012, 10:17 AM
I'm pretty sure that doesn't count, since he doesn't even have a role....

Cruor
October 19th, 2012, 12:58 PM
So wait is this like a forum style epic mafia? I've played that before but I didn't read much of the last thread.

Black Sword
October 19th, 2012, 01:12 PM
I'm pretty sure that doesn't count, since he doesn't even have a role....

Does too count! EnigmaticFellow said so at the top of this page!

Yun
October 19th, 2012, 01:32 PM
Does too count! EnigmaticFellow said so at the top of this page!You're going to regret lynching someone on day 0, I mean what if he has the vengeful role and why lynch someone with a 0% chance of them being a mafia member?

Black Sword
October 19th, 2012, 01:52 PM
Hey now, Reynel was the ringleader. TW tried to leave because he clearly had something to hide, so we fixed him good!

Yun
October 19th, 2012, 02:08 PM
Hey now, Reynel was the ringleader. TW tried to leave because he clearly had something to hide, so we fixed him good!I see so the three of you are running a protection racket.

Black Sword
October 19th, 2012, 02:11 PM
You insinuatin' somethin'?

Yun
October 19th, 2012, 02:28 PM
You insinuatin' somethin'?Maybe.

Enhance
October 19th, 2012, 02:34 PM
How mysterious.

EnigmaticFellow
October 19th, 2012, 03:00 PM
Is it started yet?







How about now?







Still a no?

It will start later tonight.

2ndsly
October 19th, 2012, 03:31 PM
Well darn.

If it starts. Between 5:30pm and 600am I likely won't. Be able to do much on day 1.

Mike1984
October 19th, 2012, 03:36 PM
Well, it depends how long day 1 lasts. And, if it starts in those time periods in the US, then I quite probably won't be able to do much either, because I'll be in bed.

EnigmaticFellow
October 19th, 2012, 03:40 PM
The game will actually start on Night 0 for those of you guys wondering.

Mike1984
October 19th, 2012, 03:40 PM
The game will actually start on Night 0 for those of you guys wondering.

What do you mean? The Mafia will get to kill someone before we even get a chance to post?

Yun
October 19th, 2012, 03:49 PM
Well darn.

If it starts. Between 5:30pm and 600am I likely won't. Be able to do much on day 1.

Well, it depends how long day 1 lasts. And, if it starts in those time periods in the US, then I quite probably won't be able to do much either, because I'll be in bed.Just have someone add your vote to the no lynch tally because it's generally speaking a bad idea for the village to lynch the first day due to poor odds of lynching a member of the mafia.

Mike1984
October 19th, 2012, 03:53 PM
Just have someone add your vote to the no lynch tally because it's generally speaking a bad idea for the village to lynch the first day due to poor odds of lynching a member of the mafia.

That's somewhat true (although it depends on the format of the game), but even if that is true, we're better off having a decent discussion.

2ndsly
October 19th, 2012, 03:58 PM
Oh well. It could be worse.

As it is, I will at least be able to check in on it.

TypeWannabe
October 19th, 2012, 04:11 PM
Hey guys, buck up. If anybody votes to lynch anybody on the first day, then they are automatically under suspicion!

Bloble
October 19th, 2012, 04:11 PM
Mike, just gonna say here before I get my role that I'll be voting No Lynch either way. So if I do something suspicious on day one, know that I decided on it beforehand and thus it has nothing to do with what role I get.

^LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH

Yun
October 19th, 2012, 04:15 PM
Mike, just gonna say here before I get my role that I'll be voting No Lynch either way. So if I do something suspicious on day one, know that I decided on it beforehand and thus it has nothing to do with what role I get.This.

Mike1984
October 19th, 2012, 04:20 PM
He did say it started with night 0, though, which might mean that a no lynch is no longer the best strategy. Also, it depends on what the roles are, and how many mafia groups exist. If we have three or four, then lynching might be worthwhile.

Black Sword
October 19th, 2012, 04:24 PM
With no clues? No lynch is the best strategy to start off with. It gives the cops time to at least try to narrow down suspects.

Mike1984
October 19th, 2012, 04:26 PM
Yes, but we don't know that we will not have any clues, and we may not necessarily even have a cop.

Yun
October 19th, 2012, 04:31 PM
With no clues? No lynch is the best strategy to start off with. It gives the cops time to at least try to narrow down suspects.Agreed.


Yes, but we don't know that we will not have any clues, and we may not necessarily even have a cop.A first day lynch is based on flimsy evidence at best and the village faction has to have some type of detection role even if it isn't the cop.

Reynel
October 19th, 2012, 04:32 PM
Yes, but we don't know that we will not have any clues, and we may not necessarily even have a cop.
Well, if we don't have a cop, we surely will get something that help us either way (or the game would be too unbalanced to work out) and it's pretty difficult too shoot in the dark, so I think the point stands.

TypeWannabe
October 19th, 2012, 08:29 PM
You know, reading the thread now makes me realize that if they were real Dead Apostles the townspeople would already be dead. You can't even say "well, the witches could stop them" because the witches are undercover and trying to hide their abilities, and why should they care about the villagers if they're real magi, unlike people like Rin, Sakura, or Shirou?

Enhance
October 20th, 2012, 07:03 AM
Then those are not citizens, those are Church agents undercover.

Chaos Greyblood
October 20th, 2012, 10:45 PM
I guess not much happened since I was gone.

TypeWannabe
October 22nd, 2012, 03:31 PM
Calling it now, Mike is going to be lynched and revealed as a normal villager, and then the villagers will get eaten/murdered by DAs/Witches, both because DA's are, again, far more superior physically than a human, and because of the popularity female magi enjoy, like Rin, nobody will want to lynch them and they will win.

I'm pretty much using this thread as the "snack on popcorn and comment" thread, since posting in that thread is a no no, unless you're a mod.

- - - Updated - - -

Commenting further, I'm still pissed at EF for making a useless role. The fact that he was sent a PM about being the role obviously means he's not a normal villager, thus "power role", but...HE HAS NO POWERS. I see absolutely NO BENEFIT to the existence of a Town Crier. Geez people, he ANNOUNCES STUFF, AND IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO BE RIGHT, AS WAS PROVEN AFTER THE KNIGHT WAS FOUND DEAD AND THE TOWN CRIER SAID NOTHING WAS WRONG.

Like, the ONLY benefit I could see to being a Town Crier is that you are effectively safe from assassinations, because the mafia will be targeting power roles in the beginning and since that role is COMPLETELY USELESS, they will have no reason to lynch you until later in the game.

Another amusing thing is that regardless of whether Mike actually is a villager, or a special villager, or a DA or a Witch, the people voting to lynch him are suspicious on the basis that he was very useful in the last game for hunting down the mafia members. Why take out someone who has proven himself valuable so early in the game? As of right now, if I was playing, I'd have voted for no lynching.

TypeWannabe
October 22nd, 2012, 03:46 PM
Another thing that's less interesting and me just randomly speculating is if Witches and Villagers can join forces. I mean, the real threat is the DA's. Magi might experiment on, and use people (Araya, Touko, Kiritsugu's dad, Caster), but compared to DA's their the llesser evil. They could work something out, like: "Hey bro, we have magic, we can help badabing badaboom those vamps, ya know? In return, you don't tell anyone about us, and we don't kill you."

The only thing getting in the way that I can see is that the masquerade needs to be kept up, because "lol mystery", and because of the natural paranoia in any mafia game.

EnigmaticFellow
October 22nd, 2012, 03:55 PM
TypeWannabe, I am kindly asking you to not talk on this thread about the game. You are not a player.

Edit:
Oh wait, this is the sign-up thread.

TypeWannabe
October 22nd, 2012, 03:56 PM
I'm just going to move over and let Mike have some chicken and french fires. Face it Mike, your numbers up, even if you are innocent. At least everybody who voted to hang you will be suspicious when the dust clears. But we were walkin' on the wild side runnin' down on a one way street...

EDIT: "if you have any complaints about the game, take it to the sign up thread"? I complained about the Town Crier, didn't I?

EnigmaticFellow
October 22nd, 2012, 04:01 PM
Commenting further, I'm still pissed at EF for making a useless role. The fact that he was sent a PM about being the role obviously means he's not a normal villager, thus "power role", but...HE HAS NO POWERS. I see absolutely NO BENEFIT to the existence of a Town Crier. Geez people, he ANNOUNCES STUFF, AND IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO BE RIGHT, AS WAS PROVEN AFTER THE KNIGHT WAS FOUND DEAD AND THE TOWN CRIER SAID NOTHING WAS WRONG.

Like, the ONLY benefit I could see to being a Town Crier is that you are effectively safe from assassinations, because the mafia will be targeting power roles in the beginning and since that role is COMPLETELY USELESS, they will have no reason to lynch you until later in the game.

As stated before, RR121 has stated reasons for why a Town Crier would be useful, mainly a method of anonymous communication. In addition, the GM reserves the right to give shitty roles. Ever looked at some of the roles over in Epic Mafia?


Another thing that's less interesting and me just randomly speculating is if Witches and Villagers can join forces. I mean, the real threat is the DA's. Magi might experiment on, and use people (Araya, Touko, Kiritsugu's dad, Caster), but compared to DA's their the llesser evil. They could work something out, like: "Hey bro, we have magic, we can help badabing badaboom those vamps, ya know? In return, you don't tell anyone about us, and we don't kill you."

The only thing getting in the way that I can see is that the masquerade needs to be kept up, because "lol mystery", and because of the natural paranoia in any mafia game.

Well, nothing is stopping factions from working together to remove a common threat; however, it doesn't change the fact that the factions have conflicting win conditions.

Mike1984
October 22nd, 2012, 04:03 PM
I'm just going to move over and let Mike have some chicken and french fires. Face it Mike, your numbers up, even if you are innocent. At least everybody who voted to hang you will be suspicious when the dust clears. But we were walkin' on the wild side runnin' down on a one way street...

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm going to get lynched, because no-one is willing to look at how ludicrously suspicious this whole thing is. Really, if I'm a Witch and
EF wanted that to be known, then why not just say that in the PM, rather than saying "you got no result, so obviously he's not of this town"?

TypeWannabe
October 22nd, 2012, 04:07 PM
Yes, I see that (to both of you). But EF, shouldn't you endeavor to be better than the people who give shitty roles? I'm sorry if you think I'm picking on you Yun, I'm not trying to, but I think you should have been given a better role.

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Edit:
Oh wait, this is the sign-up thread.

lol.

EnigmaticFellow
October 22nd, 2012, 04:10 PM
Yes, I see that (to both of you). But EF, shouldn't you endeavor to be better than the people who give shitty roles? I'm sorry if you think I'm picking on you Yun, I'm not trying to, but I think you should have been given a better role.

Town Crier is not a shitty role. In fact, I'll tell you a shitty role I got in a mafia game. It was basically an insane cop incapable of finding the Godfather. The results of my finds were based purely off a coin. And do you want to know how I reacted? I laughed for being successfully trolled by the GM. Remember that mafia is just a game. We play it to have fun.

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lol.

Both start off with similar names. It's very natural to mix them up sometimes, especially when I'm juggling several things at once.

TypeWannabe
October 22nd, 2012, 04:11 PM
Yeah, I get it. I still have doubts, but hey, like you said, it's a game. You planning on doing another one after this?

EnigmaticFellow
October 22nd, 2012, 04:13 PM
Yeah, I get it. I still have doubts, but hey, like you said, it's a game. You planning on doing another one after this?

Most likely unless time makes me unable to do so.

RR121
October 22nd, 2012, 04:14 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm going to get lynched, because no-one is willing to look at how ludicrously suspicious this whole thing is. Really, if I'm a Witch and
EF wanted that to be known, then why not just say that in the PM, rather than saying "you got no result, so obviously he's not of this town"?

Oh, I am rather suspicious, I just think that the highest probability of hitting a maf is you right now, presuming we don't go with a no-lynch. Considering you argued quite passionately against a no-lynch...yeah, I don't have a higher probability target right now.

Mike1984
October 22nd, 2012, 04:23 PM
Oh, I am rather suspicious, I just think that the highest probability of hitting a maf is you right now, presuming we don't go with a no-lynch. Considering you argued quite passionately against a no-lynch...yeah, I don't have a higher probability target right now.

Well, I do see your point, but lynching me would be a big mistake at this point. I do a damn good job of actually making people post and of working out who is Mafia, and I can't do that if I'm dead.

Reynel
October 22nd, 2012, 06:13 PM
Just wondering, EnigmaticFellow, The DAs and the witches are enemies too, or is it a secret?

Mike1984
October 22nd, 2012, 06:18 PM
Just wondering, EnigmaticFellow, The DAs and the witches are enemies too, or is it a secret?

I think that's implied by the opening message, yeah.

EnigmaticFellow
October 22nd, 2012, 06:29 PM
Just wondering, EnigmaticFellow, The DAs and the witches are enemies too, or is it a secret?

Only one faction can win in this mafia game.

TypeWannabe
October 22nd, 2012, 07:18 PM
Well, since any vote needs 9 to pass, I think there might be a chance Mike may not be dead! Of course, he's still probably gonna be taken out by the DA's or the magi though. Why can't we have a vigilante hero of justice on this?

Mike1984
October 22nd, 2012, 07:19 PM
Well, since any vote needs 9 to pass, I think there might be a chance Mike may not be dead!

Yeah, but if we hit the deadline without a lynching, then whoever has the most votes gets lynched.

TypeWannabe
October 22nd, 2012, 08:02 PM
Did nobody really think that maybe that that certain player's investigation of Mike might be the failure of the insane cop? Like, wasn't the insane cop only good for finding the Godfather, and useless for all else? Maybe the hypnosis thing is how the insane cop of this game sees things that aren't the godfather.

Lianru
October 22nd, 2012, 08:32 PM
french fires!

Reynel
October 22nd, 2012, 08:51 PM
Please Lianru, I'd like to take 2. How much is it?

RR121
October 22nd, 2012, 09:00 PM
I don't think you want french fires.

They usually start by flipping your car over and setting it aflame.

Then the looting, and the rioting.

Lianru
October 22nd, 2012, 09:12 PM
Please Lianru, I'd like to take 2. How much is it?
Dunno ask type.

Yun
October 22nd, 2012, 09:19 PM
@EF Shouldn't mike have been lynched due to being the one with the most votes?
"7. The player with the majority (one more than half the living players) get lynched and the day ends. Should the the day end before a majority is reached, the player with the most votes will get lynched. In the case that there is a tie in the most votes, the day will end with no lynched occurring."

Mike1984
October 22nd, 2012, 09:21 PM
Eh, what happened?

TypeWannabe
October 22nd, 2012, 09:35 PM
Did I really say french fires instead of fries? lol, OK, that was my bad. Sorry about your almost inevitable hanging, Mike, I don't feel like it was deserved.

Anyway, since he's almost assuredly dead now once EF realizes his mistake, no more point in hanging around these threads. I'll see you guys in the post-game so we can all laugh together. Heck, maybe I'll actually be in the next one, because the role of Town Crier really struck a nerve.

EnigmaticFellow
October 22nd, 2012, 09:41 PM
@EF Shouldn't mike have been lynched due to being the one with the most votes?
"7. The player with the majority (one more than half the living players) get lynched and the day ends. Should the the day end before a majority is reached, the player with the most votes will get lynched. In the case that there is a tie in the most votes, the day will end with no lynched occurring."

Could have sworn it was a tie between Mike and No lynch. I'll do a recount and check again.

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Here's what I have got so far:

NO LYNCH: MIKE, BLOBLE, RAVEN REYNEL, CHAOS GREYBLOOD.
LYNCH MIKE: ENHANCE, YUN, BS, ACE, ERLKONIG, RR121.
LYNCH ENHANCE: GESALT.

Did I miss anyone?

Bloble
October 22nd, 2012, 09:45 PM
I think that's it. That's plainly 5 vs 6, though. You might've accidentally counted Chaos Greyblood as two separate people.

EnigmaticFellow
October 22nd, 2012, 09:46 PM
I think that's it. That's plainly 5 vs 6, though. You might've accidentally counted Chaos Greyblood as two separate people.

You are right. Better fix the day result

TypeWannabe
October 22nd, 2012, 09:50 PM
Told you guys he was a normal villager. Now, time to scaddaddle till the end.

Mike1984
October 22nd, 2012, 09:53 PM
I think that's it. That's plainly 5 vs 6, though. You might've accidentally counted Chaos Greyblood as two separate people.

Yeah, I thought he'd done that, but I decided to say nothing on the off-chance he'd overlook it....

Enhance
October 23rd, 2012, 01:52 AM
Told you guys he was a normal villager. Now, time to scaddaddle till the end.
I was pretty sure he was a villager already. Doesn't change anything, kept my word & proud of it.