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black1blade
September 21st, 2015, 05:43 PM
No wonder, you need to start on the hard stuff.
that stuff makes me feel sick.

Strife ❤️
September 21st, 2015, 05:43 PM
Ban everyone under 18

Frostyvale
September 21st, 2015, 05:44 PM
Ban everyone under 18
Well, goodbye Strife.

You've really done me in this time.

black1blade
September 21st, 2015, 05:44 PM
look at these sadists in the currently viewing tab silently watching this young stud suffer
Yeah such a stud -_-
Has anyone read the rokka LNs? I read the 2nd one and it was really good.

mAc Chaos
September 21st, 2015, 05:44 PM
ban everyone under 24

black1blade
September 21st, 2015, 05:44 PM
Ban everyone under 18
under 18s don't like hardcore hentai
therefore, bad all under 18 users....

Snow
September 21st, 2015, 05:44 PM
Tell me the one that was most stupid.
One guy talked about corn cancer. I kinda forgot the stupider ones to preserve my sanity.

Strife ❤️
September 21st, 2015, 05:44 PM
That's alright too!

SeiKeo
September 21st, 2015, 05:44 PM
http://i.imgur.com/DaJMo2z.jpg

Polly
September 21st, 2015, 05:45 PM
ban everyone under 24

Even me, your beloved Polls? :(

just Beamu
September 21st, 2015, 05:45 PM
that stuff makes me feel sick.
Don't worry. The deep sense of shame that permeates your entire being as you question what you're doing with your life means you're still slightly sane. Slightly.

I3uster
September 21st, 2015, 05:45 PM
ban everyone under 24

is this a retirement home

black1blade
September 21st, 2015, 05:45 PM
You can just put in a fake name. All this shit posting in the 7th isn't adding to my posts.

Elthanes
September 21st, 2015, 05:45 PM
under 18s don't like hardcore hentai
therefore, bad all under 18 users....

You'll see when you're older

Polly
September 21st, 2015, 05:45 PM
One guy talked about corn cancer. I kinda forgot the stupider ones to preserve my sanity.

Girl, you're on BL, you surrendered your sanity a long time ago :(

Thedoctor
September 21st, 2015, 05:45 PM
ban everyone under 24

I refuse.

Lace
September 21st, 2015, 05:46 PM
Ban everyone under 18

fucked up

JetKinen
September 21st, 2015, 05:46 PM
under 18s don't like hardcore hentai
therefore, bad all under 18 users....

I don't know about that m8

Lace
September 21st, 2015, 05:46 PM
and im talking fucking a pig level of fucked up

Thedoctor
September 21st, 2015, 05:46 PM
Hentai is bad you're all sinners.

Fel
September 21st, 2015, 05:47 PM
Hentai is bad you're all sinners.

Wow thanks

JetKinen
September 21st, 2015, 05:47 PM
Hentai is bad you're all sinners.

We're all sinners by default so might as well embrace the sin.

SeiKeo
September 21st, 2015, 05:47 PM
and im talking fucking a pig level of fucked up
http://i.imgur.com/IcaoYUwl.png

Snow
September 21st, 2015, 05:47 PM
Girl, you're on BL, you surrendered your sanity a long time ago :(
BL is nothing compared to my school. NUTHIN'!

And yea this bloke was mean to the bottle collector guy and I wanted to punch him :/.

just Beamu
September 21st, 2015, 05:47 PM
Hentai is bad you're all sinners.
That might mean something to me if I was part of a religion.

Lace
September 21st, 2015, 05:48 PM
overdone memes #248023 i see

meanwhile this though
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPa-MN8WEAEVfd5.jpg

Janx
September 21st, 2015, 05:48 PM
Wow this thread went places.

Strife ❤️
September 21st, 2015, 05:48 PM
http://i.imgur.com/Eu9WWMB.jpg

black1blade
September 21st, 2015, 05:48 PM
Don't worry. The deep sense of shame that permeates your entire being as you question what you're doing with your life means you're still slightly sane. Slightly.
Well I don't watch it often. I spend most of my free time on forums, watching anime, doing homework, playing games ect.
My mum dragged me out for shopping today. She didn't get a ticket for the car so I went there and was waiting for a ticket. A woman accidentally put too much money in so she had a spare ticket and gave it to me. Really nice gesture. My mum told me to go this one shop but I went around the entire shopping area and it turned out that I walked straight past it. Took me like 10 minutes XD.

Polly
September 21st, 2015, 05:48 PM
I'm going to sleep in about 15 min unless this thread becomes a fun place again.

Fel
September 21st, 2015, 05:48 PM
http://i.imgur.com/IcaoYUwl.pngI legit should sleep right now

Elthanes
September 21st, 2015, 05:48 PM
That might mean something to me if I was part of a religion.

How is nihilism treating you?

just Beamu
September 21st, 2015, 05:48 PM
Wow this thread went places.
Isn't it beautiful?

I3uster
September 21st, 2015, 05:49 PM
I'm going to sleep in about 15 min unless this thread becomes a fun place again.

imo its pretty fun atm

Polly
September 21st, 2015, 05:49 PM
BL is nothing compared to my school. NUTHIN'!

What school are you going to anyway?


And yea this bloke was mean to the bottle collector guy and I wanted to punch him :/.

Should've punched him :(

just Beamu
September 21st, 2015, 05:49 PM
How is nihilism treating you?
Not Nihilism. Just Atheism.

Lace
September 21st, 2015, 05:49 PM
I'm going to sleep in about 15 min unless this thread becomes a fun place again.

Same.

Thedoctor
September 21st, 2015, 05:49 PM
That might mean something to me if I was part of a religion.

We are all religion.

Polly
September 21st, 2015, 05:49 PM
imo its pretty fun atm

It's about wanking and fucking dead pigs :(

Kirby
September 21st, 2015, 05:49 PM
Fun is dead.

black1blade
September 21st, 2015, 05:50 PM
http://i.imgur.com/Eu9WWMB.jpg
I didn't play the eroge version. To be fair, KNK is an 18 but it's down to parents and individual maturity tho. funny thing is that I have never really played violent video games like COD. I kinda got a level of minor PTSD playing dues ex that meant I couldn't finish it.

I3uster
September 21st, 2015, 05:50 PM
It's about wanking and fucking dead pigs :(

as i said

Snow
September 21st, 2015, 05:50 PM
I took this in front of my building this spring. RIP Samsung Potato :(
http://i.imgur.com/dDjDLEx.jpg

Fel
September 21st, 2015, 05:50 PM
Same.

Same

just Beamu
September 21st, 2015, 05:50 PM
We are all religion.
I'm not.

Lace
September 21st, 2015, 05:50 PM
Fun is dead.

ur supposed to post cat videos

Elthanes
September 21st, 2015, 05:50 PM
Not Nihilism. Just Atheism.

And how does that not lead to Nihilism when you think it through?

Thedoctor
September 21st, 2015, 05:50 PM
Fun is dead.

People die when they have fun.

black1blade
September 21st, 2015, 05:51 PM
We are all turning into shikis

Kirby
September 21st, 2015, 05:51 PM
ur supposed to post cat videos
It's all over

Frostyvale
September 21st, 2015, 05:51 PM
And how does that not lead to Nihilism when you think it through?
Nihilm is a fun person and I am led to him often.

Snow
September 21st, 2015, 05:52 PM
This thread needs more VITAS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWmfNeLs7fA

just Beamu
September 21st, 2015, 05:52 PM
And how does that not lead to Nihilism when you think it through?
You don't need to worship a higher power to have a purpose in life.

black1blade
September 21st, 2015, 05:52 PM
Okay I'm actually going to bed now. Really sorry for my behaviour.

Frostyvale
September 21st, 2015, 05:52 PM
We are all turning into shikis
You go to sleep or I swear I'll start posting Shakespeare and then move on to American poets.

black1blade
September 21st, 2015, 05:53 PM
Shakespear is fine but keep that murican shit away from me.

Kirby
September 21st, 2015, 05:53 PM
You go to sleep or I swear I'll start posting Shakespeare and then move on to American poets.
Post French poetry, so I can pretend I know French poetry

JetKinen
September 21st, 2015, 05:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glii-kazad8

Best dog

Elthanes
September 21st, 2015, 05:54 PM
You don't need to worship a higher power to have a purpose in life.

So what is your purpose?
Why do you think anything matters?

Polly
September 21st, 2015, 05:54 PM
Oh god no not religion talk please.

Leftovers
September 21st, 2015, 05:54 PM
http://i.imgur.com/hhFWEJa.png

A Fun thread is under construction. Please wait warmly until it is ready.

just Beamu
September 21st, 2015, 05:55 PM
So what is your purpose?
Why do you think anything matters?
Things can still matter on a personal level.

SeiKeo
September 21st, 2015, 05:55 PM
You go to sleep or I swear I'll start posting Shakespeare and then move on to American poets.
A poet! Do not prize the love of people around,
It soon will pass -- the glorifying hum --
And come a court of fools and laughing of cold crowd --
But you must always stay firm, morose and calm.

You're king: live lonesome. Along the freedom's road,
Stride there, to where just shows your free mind,
While modernizing fruits of thoughts, beloved,
And not demanding you to be awarded.

Awards inside of you. You are your highest court;
Severely then all, you value your effort.
Well, are you satisfied, oh, my severe artist?

You're satisfied. Then let the mob condemn your verse,
Spit at the altar, where your fire burns,
And toss your brass tripod with somewhat childish wildness.

Kirby
September 21st, 2015, 05:55 PM
You can't save it

Lace
September 21st, 2015, 05:55 PM
I'll have u know god isn't real ;)

*smirks sweatingly

Janx
September 21st, 2015, 05:55 PM
I apparently need to have my bear avatar again.

Snow
September 21st, 2015, 05:56 PM
Even Croats vs Serbs in the YT comments is more fun than religion talk!

No wait I take that back.

Janx
September 21st, 2015, 05:56 PM
I'll have u know god isn't real ;)

*smirks sweatingly

Such a cute athiest.

Thedoctor
September 21st, 2015, 05:56 PM
I'll have u know god isn't real ;)

*smirks sweatingly
We are real.

Elthanes
September 21st, 2015, 05:56 PM
Oh god no not religion talk please.

That's more philosophy talk

SeiKeo
September 21st, 2015, 05:57 PM
I'll have u know god isn't real ;)

*smirks sweatingly
On April 8, 1966, Time magazine carried a lead story for which the cover was completely black except for three words emblazoned in bright, red letters against the dark background: “IS GOD DEAD?” The story described the so-called ‘Death of God’ movement then current in American theology. But, to paraphrase Mark Twain, it seemed that the news of God’s demise was “greatly exaggerated.” For at the same time that theologians were writing God’s obituary, a new generation of young philosophers was re-discovering His vitality.
Back in the 1940s and ’50s it was widely believed among philosophers that any talk about God is meaningless, since it is not verifiable by the five senses. The collapse of this Verificationism was perhaps the most important philosophical event of the twentieth century. Its downfall meant a resurgence of metaphysics, along with other traditional problems of philosophy which Verificationism had suppressed. Accompanying this resurgence came something altogether unanticipated: a renaissance of Christian philosophy.
The turning point probably came in 1967 with the publication of Alvin Plantinga’s God and Other Minds, which applied the tools of analytic philosophy to questions in the philosophy of religion with an unprecedented rigor and creativity. In Plantinga’s train has followed a host of Christian philosophers, writing in professional journals and participating in professional conferences and publishing with the finest academic presses. The face of Anglo-American philosophy has been transformed as a result. Atheism, although perhaps still the dominant viewpoint in Western universities, is a philosophy in retreat. In a recent article, University of Western Michigan philosopher Quentin Smith laments what he calls “the desecularization of academia that evolved in philosophy departments since the late 1960s.” (‘The Metaphilosophy of Naturalism’, Philo, Vol 4, #2, at philoonline.org). Complaining of naturalists’ passivity in the face of the wave of “intelligent and talented theists entering academia today,” Smith concludes, “God is not ‘dead’ in academia; he returned to life in the late 1960s and is now alive and well in his last academic stronghold, philosophy departments.”
The renaissance of Christian philosophy has been accompanied by a resurgence of interest in natural theology – that branch of theology which seeks to prove God’s existence without appeal to the resources of authoritative divine revelation – for instance, through philosophical argument. All of the traditional philosophical arguments for God’s existence, such as the cosmological, teleological, moral, and ontological arguments, not to mention creative, new arguments, find intelligent and articulate defenders on the contemporary philosophical scene.
But what about the so-called ‘New Atheism’ exemplified by Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, and Christopher Hitchens? Doesn’t it herald a reversal of this trend? Not really. As is evident from the authors it interacts with – or rather, doesn’t interact with – the New Atheism is, in fact, a pop-cultural phenomenon lacking in intellectual muscle and blissfully ignorant of the revolution that has taken place in Anglo-American philosophy. It tends to reflect the scientism of a bygone generation, rather than the contemporary intellectual scene.
Eight Reasons in Support of God’s Existence
I believe that God’s existence best explains a wide range of the data of human experience. Let me briefly mention eight such cases.
1. God is the best explanation why anything at all exists.
Suppose you were hiking through the forest and came upon a ball lying on the ground. You would naturally wonder how it came to be there. If your hiking buddy said to you, “Forget about it! It just exists!” you would think he was either joking or just wanted you to keep moving. No one would take seriously the idea that the ball just exists without any explanation. Now notice than merely increasing the size of the ball until it becomes coextensive with the universe does nothing to either provide, or remove the need for, an explanation of its existence.
So what is the explanation of the existence of the universe (by ‘the universe’ I mean all of spacetime reality)? The explanation of the universe can lie only in a transcendent reality beyond it – beyond space and time – the existence of which transcendent reality is metaphysically necessary (otherwise its existence would also need explaining). Now there is only one way I can think of to get a contingent entity like the universe from a necessarily existing cause, and that is if the cause is an agent who can freely choose to create the contingent reality. It therefore follows that the best explanation of the existence of the contingent universe is a transcendent personal being – which is what everybody means by ‘God’.
We can summarize this reasoning as follows:
1. Every contingent thing has an explanation of its existence.
2. If the universe has an explanation of its existence, that explanation is a transcendent, personal being.
3. The universe is a contingent thing.
4. Therefore, the universe has an explanation of its existence.
5. Therefore, the explanation of the universe is a transcendent, personal being.
– which is what everybody means by ‘God’.

2. God is the best explanation of the origin of the universe.
We have pretty strong evidence that the universe has not existed eternally into the past, but had a beginning a finite time ago. In 2003, the mathematician Arvind Borde, and physicists Alan Guth and Alexander Vilenkin were able to prove that any universe which has, on average, been expanding throughout its history cannot be infinite in the past, but must have a past spacetime boundary (i.e., a beginning). What makes their proof so powerful is that it holds so long as time and causality hold, regardless of the physical description of the very early universe. Because we don’t yet have a quantum theory of gravity, we can’t yet provide a physical description of the first split-second of the universe; but the Borde-Guth-Vilenkin theorem is independent of one’s theory of gravitation. For instance, their theorem implies that the quantum vacuum state which may have characterized the early universe cannot have existed eternally into the past, but must itself have had a beginning. Even if our universe is just a tiny part of a so-called ‘multiverse’, composed of many universes, their theorem requires that the multiverse itself must have had a beginning.
Of course, highly speculative physical scenarios, such as loop quantum gravity models, string models, even closed timelike curves, have been proposed to try to avoid this absolute beginning. These models are fraught with problems, but the bottom line is that none of these theories, even if true, succeeds in restoring an eternal past for the universe. Last year, at a conference in Cambridge celebrating the seventieth birthday of Stephen Hawking, Vilenkin delivered a paper entitled ‘Did the Universe Have a Beginning?’, which surveyed current cosmology with respect to that question. He argued that “none of these scenarios can actually be past-eternal.” Specifically, Vilenkin closed the door on three models attempting to avert the implication of his theorem: eternal inflation, a cyclic universe, and an ‘emergent’ universe which exists for eternity as a static seed before expanding. Vilenkin concluded, “All the evidence we have says that the universe had a beginning.”
But then the inevitable question arises: Why did the universe come into being? What brought the universe into existence? There must have been a transcendent cause which brought the universe into being – a cause outside the universe itself.
We can summarize this argument thus far as follows:
1. The universe began to exist.
2. If the universe began to exist, then the universe has a transcendent cause.
3. Therefore, the universe has a transcendent cause.

By the very nature of the case, that cause of the physical universe must be an immaterial (i.e., non-physical) being. Now there are only two types of things that could possibly fit that description: either an abstract object like a number, or an unembodied mind/consciousness. But abstract objects don’t stand in causal relations to physical things. The number 7, for example, has no effect on anything. Therefore the cause of the universe is an unembodied mind. Thus again we are brought, not merely to a transcendent cause of the universe, but to its Personal Creator.
3. God is the best explanation of the applicability of mathematics to the physical world.
Philosophers and scientists have puzzled over what physicist Eugene Wigner called “the unreasonable effectiveness of mathematics.” How is it that a mathematical theorist like Peter Higgs can sit down at his desk and, by pouring over mathematical equations, predict the existence of a fundamental particle which, thirty years later, after investing millions of dollars and thousands of man-hours, experimentalists are finally able to detect? Mathematics is the language of nature. But how is this to be explained? If mathematical objects like numbers and mathematical theorems are abstract entities causally isolated from the physical universe, then the applicability of mathematics is, in the words of philosopher of mathematics Mary Leng, “a happy coincidence.” On the other hand, if mathematical objects are just useful fictions, how is it that nature is written in the language of these fictions? The naturalist has no explanation for the uncanny applicability of mathematics to the physical world. By contrast, the theist has a ready explanation: When God created the physical universe He designed it in terms of the mathematical structure which He had in mind.
We can summarize this argument as follows:
1. If God did not exist, the applicability of mathematics would be just a happy coincidence.
2. The applicability of mathematics is not just a happy coincidence.
3. Therefore, God exists.

4. God is the best explanation of the fine-tuning of the universe for intelligent life.
In recent decades scientists have been stunned by the discovery that the initial conditions of the Big Bang were fine-tuned for the existence of intelligent life with a precision and delicacy that literally defy human comprehension. This fine-tuning is of two sorts. First, when the laws of nature are expressed as equations, you find appearing in them certain constants, such as the gravitational constant. The values of these constants are independent of the laws of nature. Second, in addition to these constants, there are certain arbitrary quantities which define the initial conditions on which the laws of nature operate – for example, the amount of entropy (disorder) in the universe. Now these constants and quantities fall into an extraordinarily narrow range of life-permitting values. Were these constants or quantities to be altered by less than a hair’s breadth, the life-permitting balance of nature would be destroyed, and life would not exist.
There are three live explanatory options for this extraordinary fine-tuning: physical necessity, chance, or design.
Physical necessity is not, however, a plausible explanation, because the finely-tuned constants and quantities are independent of the laws of nature. Therefore, they are not physically necessary.
So could this fine-tuning be due to chance? The problem with this explanation is that the odds of all the constants and quantities’ randomly falling into the incomprehensibly narrow life-permitting range are just so infinitesimal that they cannot be reasonably accepted. Therefore the proponents of the chance explanation have been forced to postulate the existence of a ‘World Ensemble’ of other universes, preferably infinite in number and randomly ordered, so that life-permitting universes like ours would appear by chance somewhere in the Ensemble. Not only is this hypothesis, to borrow Richard Dawkins’ phrase, “an unparsimonious extravagance,” it faces an insuperable objection. By far, the most probable observable universes in a World Ensemble would be worlds in which a single brain fluctuated into existence out of the vacuum and observed its otherwise empty world. So, if our world were just a random member of the World Ensemble, by all probability we ought to be having observations like that. Since we don’t, that strongly disconfirms the World Ensemble hypothesis. So chance is also not a good explanation. Thus,
1. The fine-tuning of the universe is due to either physical necessity, chance, or design.
2. The fine-tuning of the universe is not due to physical necessity or chance.
3. Therefore, the fine-tuning of the universe is due to design.

Thus, the fine-tuning of the universe constitutes evidence for a cosmic Designer.
5. God is the best explanation of intentional states of consciousness.
Philosophers are puzzled by states of intentionality. Intentionality is the property of being about something or of something. It signifies the object-directedness of our thoughts. For example, I can think about my summer vacation, or I can think of my wife. No physical object has intentionality in this sense. A chair or a stone or a glob of tissue like the brain is not about or of something else. Only mental states or states of consciousness are about other things. In The Atheist’s Guide to Reality: Enjoying Life without Illusions (2011), the materialist Alex Rosenberg recognizes this fact, and concludes that for atheists, there really are no intentional states. Rosenberg boldly claims that we never really think about anything. But this seems incredible. Obviously, I am thinking about Rosenberg’s argument – and so are you! This seems to me to be a reductio ad absurdum of his atheism. By contrast, for theists, because God is a mind, it’s hardly surprising that there should be other, finite minds, with intentional states. Thus intentional states fit comfortably into a theistic worldview.
So we may argue:
1. If God did not exist, intentional states of consciousness would not exist.
2. But intentional states of consciousness do exist.
3. Therefore, God exists.

6. God is the best explanation of objective moral values and duties.
In our experience we apprehend moral values and duties which impose themselves as objectively binding and true. For example, we recognize that it’s wrong to walk into an elementary school with an automatic weapon and shoot little boys and girls and their teachers. On a naturalistic view, however, there is nothing really wrong with this: moral values are just the subjective by-products of biological evolution and social conditioning, and have no objective validity.
Alex Rosenberg is brutally honest about the implications of his atheism here too. He declares, “there is no such thing as… morally right or wrong.” (The Atheist’s Guide to Reality, p.145); “Individual human life is meaningless… and without ultimate moral value.” (p.17); “We need to face the fact that nihilism is true.” (p.95). By contrast, the theist grounds objective moral values in God, and our moral duties in His commands. The theist thus has the explanatory resources to ground objective moral values and duties which the atheist lacks.
Hence we may argue:
1. Objective moral values and duties exist.
2. But if God did not exist, objective moral values and duties would not exist.
3. Therefore, God exists.

7. The very possibility of God’s existence implies that God exists.
In order to understand this argument, you need to understand what philosophers mean by ‘possible worlds’. A possible world is just a way the world might have been. It is a description of a possible reality. So a possible world is not a planet or a universe or any kind of concrete object, it is a world-description. The actual world is the description that is true. Other possible worlds are descriptions that are not in fact true but which might have been true. To say that something exists in some possible world is to say that there is some consistent description of reality which includes that entity. To say that something exists in every possible world means that no matter which description is true, that entity will be included in the description. For example, unicorns do not in fact exist, but there are some possible worlds in which unicorns exist. On the other hand, many mathematicians think that numbers exist in every possible world.
Now with that in mind, consider the ontological argument, which was discovered in the year 1011 by the monk Anselm of Canterbury. God, Anselm observes, is by definition the greatest being conceivable. If you could conceive of anything greater than God, then that would be God. Thus, God is the greatest conceivable being – a maximally great being. So what would such a being be like? He would be all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-good, and He would exist in every logically possible world. A being which lacked any of those properties would not be maximally great: we could conceive of something greater – a being which did have all these properties.
But this implies that if God’s existence is even possible, then God must exist. For if a maximally great being exists in any possible world, He exists in all of them. That’s part of what it means to be maximally great – to be all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-good in every logically possible world. So if God’s existence is even possible, then He exists in every logically possible world – and therefore in the actual world.
We can summarize this argument as follows:
1. It is possible that a maximally great being (God) exists.
2. If it is possible that a maximally great being exists, then a maximally great being exists in some possible world.
3. If a maximally great being exists in some possible world, then it exists in every possible world.
4. If a maximally great being exists in every possible world, then it exists in the actual world.
5. Therefore, a maximally great being exists in the actual world.
6. Therefore, a maximally great being exists.
7. Therefore, God exists.

It might surprise you to learn that steps 2-7 of this argument are relatively uncontroversial. Most philosophers would agree that if God’s existence is even possible, then He must exist.
So the question is, is God’s existence possible? Well, what do you think? The atheist has to maintain that it’s impossible that God exists. That is, he has to maintain that the concept of God is logically incoherent, like the concept of a married bachelor or a round square. The problem is that the concept of God just doesn’t appear to be incoherent in that way. The idea of a being who is all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-good in every possible world seems perfectly coherent. Moreover, as we’ve seen, there are other arguments for God’s existence which at least suggest that it’s possible that God exists. So I’ll just leave it with you. Do you think, as I do, that it’s at least possible that God exists? If so, then it follows logically that He does exist.
8. God can be personally known and experienced.
This isn’t really an argument for God’s existence; rather it’s the claim that you can know God exists wholly apart from arguments, by personally experiencing him. Philosophers call beliefs grasped in this way ‘properly basic beliefs’. They aren’t based on some other beliefs; rather they’re part of the foundation of a person’s system of beliefs. Other properly basic beliefs would be the belief in the reality of the past or the existence of the external world. When you think about it, neither of these beliefs can be proved by argument. How could you prove that the world was not created five minutes ago with built-in appearances of age like food in our stomachs from the breakfasts we never really ate and memory traces in our brains of events we never really experienced? How could you prove that you are not a brain in a vat of chemicals being stimulated with electrodes by some mad scientist to believe that you are reading this article? We don’t base such beliefs on argument; rather they’re part of the foundations of our system of beliefs.
But although these sorts of beliefs are basic for us, that doesn’t mean that they’re arbitrary. Rather they’re grounded in the sense that they’re formed in the context of certain experiences. In the experiential context of seeing and feeling and hearing things, I naturally form the belief that there are certain physical objects which I am sensing. Thus, my basic beliefs are not arbitrary, but appropriately grounded in experience. There may be no way to prove such beliefs, and yet it’s perfectly rational to hold them. Such beliefs are thus not merely basic, but properly basic. In the same way, belief in God is for those who seek Him a properly basic belief grounded in their experience of God.
Now if this is so, then there’s a danger that philosophical arguments for God could actually distract your attention from God Himself. The Bible promises, “Draw near to God and he will draw near to you.” (James 4:8) We mustn’t so concentrate on the external arguments that we fail to hear the inner voice of God speaking to our hearts. For those who listen, God becomes a personal reality in their lives.
Summary
In summary, we’ve seen eight respects in which God provides a better account of the world than naturalism: God is the best explanation of
1. Why anything at all exists.
2. The origin of the universe.
3. The applicability of mathematics to the physical world.
4. The fine-tuning of the universe for intelligent life.
5. Intentional states of consciousness.
6. Objective moral values and duties.

Moreover
7. The very possibility of God’s existence implies that God exists.
8. God can be personally experienced and known.

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just Beamu
September 21st, 2015, 05:57 PM
I'll have u know god isn't real ;)

*smirks sweatingly
High fives.

Polly
September 21st, 2015, 05:57 PM
Even Croats vs Serbs in the YT comments is more fun than religion talk!

No wait I take that back.

I also like our domestic Left vs Right discussions!

Strife ❤️
September 21st, 2015, 05:57 PM
I want a sword so much. Probably a scimitar.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPczwdzWgAAO3yZ.jpg:large

just Beamu
September 21st, 2015, 05:58 PM
That's more philosophy talk
Still essentially pointless. Clearly neither of us is going to convince the other that they're wrong. Might as well stop.

Thedoctor
September 21st, 2015, 05:58 PM
This thread is a hell hole of atheist.

Lace
September 21st, 2015, 05:59 PM
snip

Ew

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i am not reading that officer you cant make me

Elthanes
September 21st, 2015, 05:59 PM
Things can still matter on a personal level.

But how do you define value/morality?
Do you think that there is an objective morality or is it man-made?

SeiKeo
September 21st, 2015, 05:59 PM
Ew

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i am not reading that officer you cant make me
I spoke recently at a major Canadian university on the existence of God. After my talk, one slightly irate co-ed wrote on her comment card, “I was with you until you got to the stuff about Jesus. God is not the Christian God!”
This attitude is all too typical today. Most people are happy to agree that God exists; but in our pluralistic society it has become politically incorrect to claim that God has revealed Himself decisively in Jesus. What justification can Christians offer, in contrast to Hindus, Jews, and Muslims, for thinking that the Christian God is real?
The answer of the New Testament is: the resurrection of Jesus. “God will judge the world with justice by the man He has appointed. He has given proof of this to all men by raising him from the dead” (Acts 17.31). The resurrection is God’s vindication of Jesus’ radical personal claims to divine authority.
So how do we know that Jesus is risen from the dead? The Easter hymnwriter says, “You ask me how I know he lives? He lives within my heart!” This answer is perfectly appropriate on an individual level. But when Christians engage unbelievers in the public square—such as in “Letters to the Editor” of a local newspaper, on call-in programs on talk-radio, at PTA meetings, or even just in conversation with co-workers—, then it’s crucial that we be able to present objective evidence in support of our beliefs. Otherwise our claims hold no more water than the assertions of anyone else claiming to have a private experience of God.
Fortunately, Christianity, as a religion rooted in history, makes claims that can in important measure be investigated historically. Suppose, then, that we approach the New Testament writings, not as inspired Scripture, but merely as a collection of Greek documents coming down to us out of the first century, without any assumption as to their reliability other than the way we normally regard other sources of ancient history. We may be surprised to learn that the majority of New Testament critics investigating the gospels in this way accept the central facts undergirding the resurrection of Jesus. I want to emphasize that I am not talking about evangelical or conservative scholars only, but about the broad spectrum of New Testament critics who teach at secular universities and non-evangelical seminaries. Amazing as it may seem, most of them have come to regard as historical the basic facts which support the resurrection of Jesus. These facts are as follows:
FACT #1: After his crucifixion, Jesus was buried in a tomb by Joseph of Arimathea. This fact is highly significant because it means, contrary to radical critics like John Dominic Crossan of the Jesus Seminar, that the location of Jesus’ burial site was known to Jew and Christian alike. In that case, the disciples could never have proclaimed his resurrection in Jerusalem if the tomb had not been empty. New Testament researchers have established this first fact on the basis of evidence such as the following:
1. Jesus’ burial is attested in the very old tradition quoted by Paul in I Cor. 15.3-5:
For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received:
. . . that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures,
and that he was buried,
and that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures,
and that he appeared to Cephas, then to the Twelve.



Paul not only uses the typical rabbinical terms “received” and “delivered” with regard to the information he is passing on to the Corinthians, but vv. 3-5 are a highly stylized four-line formula filled with non-Pauline characteristics. This has convinced all scholars that Paul is, as he says, quoting from an old tradition which he himself received after becoming a Christian. This tradition probably goes back at least to Paul’s fact-finding visit to Jerusalem around AD 36, when he spent two weeks with Cephas and James (Gal. 1.18). It thus dates to within five years after Jesus’ death. So short a time span and such personal contact make it idle to talk of legend in this case.
2. The burial story is part of very old source material used by Mark in writing his gospel. The gospels tend to consist of brief snapshots of Jesus’ life which are loosely connected and not always chronologically arranged. But when we come to the passion story we do have one, smooth, continuously-running narrative. This suggests that the passion story was one of Mark’s sources of information in writing his gospel. Now most scholars think Mark is already the earliest gospel, and Mark’s source for Jesus’ passion is, of course, even older. Comparison of the narratives of the four gospels shows that their accounts do not diverge from one another until after the burial. This implies that the burial account was part of the passion story. Again, its great age militates against its being legendary.
3. As a member of the Jewish court that condemned Jesus, Joseph of Arimathea is unlikely to be a Christian invention. There was strong resentment against the Jewish leadership for their role in the condemnation of Jesus (I Thess. 2.15). It is therefore highly improbable that Christians would invent a member of the court that condemned Jesus who honors Jesus by giving him a proper burial instead of allowing him to be dispatched as a common criminal.
4. No other competing burial story exists. If the burial by Joseph were fictitious, then we would expect to find either some historical trace of what actually happened to Jesus’ corpse or at least some competing legends. But all our sources are unanimous on Jesus’ honorable interment by Joseph.
For these and other reasons, the majority of New Testament critics concur that Jesus was buried in a tomb by Joseph of Arimathea. According to the late John A. T. Robinson of Cambridge University, the burial of Jesus in the tomb is “one of the earliest and best-attested facts about Jesus.”1 (http://www.reasonablefaith.org/the-resurrection-of-jesus#_edn1)
FACT #2: On the Sunday following the crucifixion, Jesus’ tomb was found empty by a group of his women followers. Among the reasons which have led most scholars to this conclusion are the following:
1. The empty tomb story is also part of the old passion source used by Mark. The passion source used by Mark did not end in death and defeat, but with the empty tomb story, which is grammatically of one piece with the burial story.
2. The old tradition cited by Paul in I Cor. 15.3-5 implies the fact of the empty tomb. For any first century Jew, to say that of a dead man “that he was buried and that he was raised” is to imply that a vacant grave was left behind. Moreover, the expression “on the third day” probably derives from the women’s visit to the tomb on the third day, in Jewish reckoning, after the crucifixion. The four-line tradition cited by Paul summarizes both the gospel accounts and the early apostolic preaching (Acts 13. 28-31); significantly, the third line of the tradition corresponds to the empty tomb story.
3. The story is simple and lacks signs of legendary embellishment. All one has to do to appreciate this point is to compare Mark’s account with the wild legendary stories found in the second-century apocryphal gospels, in which Jesus is seen coming out of the tomb with his head reaching up above the clouds and followed by a talking cross!
4. The fact that women’s testimony was discounted in first century Palestine stands in favor of the women’s role in discovering the empty tomb. According to Josephus, the testimony of women was regarded as so worthless that it could not even be admitted into a Jewish court of law. Any later legendary story would certainly have made male disciples discover the empty tomb.
5. The earliest Jewish allegation that the disciples had stolen Jesus’ body (Matt. 28.15) shows that the body was in fact missing from the tomb. The earliest Jewish response to the disciples’ proclamation, “He is risen from the dead!” was not to point to his occupied tomb and to laugh them off as fanatics, but to claim that they had taken away Jesus’ body. Thus, we have evidence of the empty tomb from the very opponents of the early Christians.

One could go on, but I think that enough has been said to indicate why, in the words of Jacob Kremer, an Austrian specialist in the resurrection, “By far most exegetes hold firmly to the reliability of the biblical statements concerning the empty tomb.”2 (http://www.reasonablefaith.org/the-resurrection-of-jesus#_edn2)
FACT #3: On multiple occasions and under various circumstances, different individuals and groups of people experienced appearances of Jesus alive from the dead.
This is a fact which is almost universally acknowledged among New Testament scholars, for the following reasons:
1. The list of eyewitnesses to Jesus’ resurrection appearances which is quoted by Paul in I Cor. 15. 5-7 guarantees that such appearances occurred. These included appearances to Peter (Cephas), the Twelve, the 500 brethren, and James.
2. The appearance traditions in the gospels provide multiple, independent attestation of these appearances. This is one of the most important marks of historicity. The appearance to Peter is independently attested by Luke, and the appearance to the Twelve by Luke and John. We also have independent witness to Galilean appearances in Mark, Matthew, and John, as well as to the women in Matthew and John.
3. Certain appearances have earmarks of historicity. For example, we have good evidence from the gospels that neither James nor any of Jesus’ younger brothers believed in him during his lifetime. There is no reason to think that the early church would generate fictitious stories concerning the unbelief of Jesus’ family had they been faithful followers all along. But it is indisputable that James and his brothers did become active Christian believers following Jesus’ death. James was considered an apostle and eventually rose to the position of leadership of the Jerusalem church. According to the first century Jewish historian Josephus, James was martyred for his faith in Christ in the late AD 60s. Now most of us have brothers. What would it take to convince you that your brother is the Lord, such that you would be ready to die for that belief? Can there be any doubt that this remarkable transformation in Jesus’ younger brother took place because, in Paul’s words, “then he appeared to James”?

Even Gert Ldemann, the leading German critic of the resurrection, himself admits, “It may be taken as historically certain that Peter and the disciples had experiences after Jesus’ death in which Jesus appeared to them as the risen Christ.”3 (http://www.reasonablefaith.org/the-resurrection-of-jesus#_edn3)
FACT #4: The original disciples believed that Jesus was risen from the dead despite their having every predisposition to the contrary. Think of the situation the disciples faced after Jesus’ crucifixion:
1. Their leader was dead. And Jews had no belief in a dying, much less rising, Messiah. The Messiah was supposed to throw off Israel’s enemies (= Rome) and re-establish a Davidic reign—not suffer the ignominious death of criminal.
2. According to Jewish law, Jesus’ execution as a criminal showed him out to be a heretic, a man literally under the curse of God (Deut. 21.23). The catastrophe of the crucifixion for the disciples was not simply that their Master was gone, but that the crucifixion showed, in effect, that the Pharisees had been right all along, that for three years they had been following a heretic, a man accursed by God!
3. Jewish beliefs about the afterlife precluded anyone’s rising from the dead to glory and immortality before the general resurrection at the end of the world. All the disciples could do was to preserve their Master’s tomb as a shrine where his bones could reside until that day when all of Israel’s righteous dead would be raised by God to glory.

Despite all this, the original disciples believed in and were willing to go to their deaths for the fact of Jesus’ resurrection. Luke Johnson, a New Testament scholar from Emory University, muses, “some sort of powerful, transformative experience is required to generate the sort of movement earliest Christianity was . . . .”4 (http://www.reasonablefaith.org/the-resurrection-of-jesus#_edn4) N. T. Wright, an eminent British scholar, concludes, “that is why, as a historian, I cannot explain the rise of early Christianity unless Jesus rose again, leaving an empty tomb behind him.”5 (http://www.reasonablefaith.org/the-resurrection-of-jesus#_edn5)
In summary, there are four facts agreed upon by the majority of scholars who have written on these subjects which any adequate historical hypothesis must account for: Jesus’ entombment by Joseph of Arimathea, the discovery of his empty tomb, his post-mortem appearances, and the origin of the disciples’ belief in his resurrection.
Now the question is: what is the best explanation of these four facts? Most sholars probably remain agnostic about this question. But the Christian can maintain that the hypothesis that best explains these facts is “God raised Jesus from the dead.”
In his book Justifying Historical Descriptions, historian C. B. McCullagh lists six tests which historians use in determining what is the best explanation for given historical facts.6 (http://www.reasonablefaith.org/the-resurrection-of-jesus#_edn6) The hypothesis “God raised Jesus from the dead” passes all these tests:
1. It has great explanatory scope: it explains why the tomb was found empty, why the disciples saw post-mortem appearances of Jesus, and why the Christian faith came into being.
2. It has great explanatory power: it explains why the body of Jesus was gone, why people repeatedly saw Jesus alive despite his earlier public execution, and so forth.
3. It is plausible: given the historical context of Jesus’ own unparalleled life and claims, the resurrection serves as divine confirmation of those radical claims.
4. It is not ad hoc or contrived: it requires only one additional hypothesis: that God exists. And even that needn’t be an additional hypothesis if one already believes that God exists.
5. It is in accord with accepted beliefs. The hypothesis: “God raised Jesus from the dead” doesn’t in any way conflict with the accepted belief that people don’t rise naturally from the dead. The Christian accepts that belief as wholeheartedly as he accepts the hypothesis that God raised Jesus from the dead.
6. It far outstrips any of its rival hypotheses in meeting conditions (1)-(5). Down through history various alternative explanations of the facts have been offered, for example, the conspiracy hypothesis, the apparent death hypothesis, the hallucination hypothesis, and so forth. Such hypotheses have been almost universally rejected by contemporary scholarship. None of these naturalistic hypotheses succeeds in meeting the conditions as well as the resurrection hypothesis.
Now this puts the sceptical critic in a rather desperate situation. A few years ago I participated in a debate on the resurrection of Jesus with a professor at the University of California, Irvine. He had written his doctoral dissertation on the resurrection, and he was thoroughly familiar with the evidence. He could not deny the facts of Jesus’ honorable burial, empty tomb, post-mortem appearances, and the origin of the disciples’ belief in the resurrection. So his only recourse was to come up with some alternate explanation of those facts. And so he argued that Jesus of Nazareth had an unknown, identical twin brother, who was separated from him as an infant and grew up independently, but who came back to Jerusalem at the time of the crucifixion, stole Jesus’ body out of the tomb, and presented himself to the disciples, who mistakenly inferred that Jesus was risen from the dead! Now I won’t bother to go into how I went about refuting this theory. But I think the example is illustrative of the desperate lengths to which scepticism must go in order to refute the evidence for the resurrection of Jesus. Indeed, the evidence is so powerful that one of the world’s leading Jewish theologians, the late Pinchas Lapide, who taught at Hebrew University in Israel, declared himself convinced on the basis of the evidence that the God of Israel raised Jesus of Nazareth from the dead!7 (http://www.reasonablefaith.org/the-resurrection-of-jesus#_edn7)
The significance of the resurrection of Jesus lies in the fact that it is not just any old Joe Blow who has been raised from the dead, but Jesus of Nazareth, whose crucifixion was instigated by the Jewish leadership because of his blasphemous claims to divine authority. If this man has been raised from the dead, then the God whom he allegedly blasphemed has clearly vindicated his claims. Thus, in an age of religious relativism and pluralism, the resurrection of Jesus constitutes a solid rock on which Christians can take their stand for God’s decisive self-revelation in Jesus.

Snow
September 21st, 2015, 06:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOnsAG9f1ws
Quick! Look at this fabulous thing yt suggested to me!

just Beamu
September 21st, 2015, 06:00 PM
This thread is a hell hole of atheist.
Welcome to the land of the heathens were nothing is sacred.

Thedoctor
September 21st, 2015, 06:00 PM
Leo why?

GhostDIGIT
September 21st, 2015, 06:01 PM
Well I don't watch it often. I spend most of my free time on forums, watching anime, doing homework, playing games ect.
My mum dragged me out for shopping today. She didn't get a ticket for the car so I went there and was waiting for a ticket. A woman accidentally put too much money in so she had a spare ticket and gave it to me. Really nice gesture. My mum told me to go this one shop but I went around the entire shopping area and it turned out that I walked straight past it. Took me like 10 minutes XD.
It's good to go out shopping with your mom. It's one of the only ways I get out of my house nowadays.

Strife ❤️
September 21st, 2015, 06:01 PM
Makes a change from the Ayn Rand.

Polly
September 21st, 2015, 06:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVzljDmoPVs

Lace
September 21st, 2015, 06:02 PM
snip

why are u quoting christian website text im not the antichrist it wont make me light up in flames

mAc Chaos
September 21st, 2015, 06:02 PM
QED
i read all of it

Frostyvale
September 21st, 2015, 06:03 PM
why are u quoting christian website text im not the antichrist it wont make me light up in flames
It's impossible to prove that this didn't happen.

GhostDIGIT
September 21st, 2015, 06:03 PM
Philosophy is a waste of time! said the me, the person who is reading a book on linguistics.

Strife ❤️
September 21st, 2015, 06:03 PM
Leo:

http://i.imgur.com/zEak6yV.png

Lace
September 21st, 2015, 06:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVzljDmoPVs

Sia is good

Elthanes
September 21st, 2015, 06:03 PM
snip

Isn't a good part of that just retreading of Aquinas?

Polly
September 21st, 2015, 06:04 PM
Sia is good

I'm hoping she distracts from the awful things Leo has been posting :(

just Beamu
September 21st, 2015, 06:05 PM
It's good to go out shopping with your mom. It's one of the only ways I get out of my house nowadays.
Can get awkward though. Like when you go to town with her and stop by the only place around where you live that has DVDs and Blu ray sets of anime. Then as you walk by the children's section you notice that there's an old Hentai next to spongebob. You proceed to mentally debate with yourself whether or not you should bring it to an employee and point out where it should be. Than you decide otherwise on account of not wanting to explain to you're mother how you know what it is.

Lace
September 21st, 2015, 06:05 PM
I'm hoping she distracts from the awful things Leo has been posting :(

If I wanted to have religious text thrown at me I could just ask my mom :(

SeiKeo
September 21st, 2015, 06:05 PM
Isn't a good part of that just retreading of Aquinas?
Is it?

Frostyvale
September 21st, 2015, 06:06 PM
Well, it can be if you want it to be.

GhostDIGIT
September 21st, 2015, 06:06 PM
Can get awkward though. Like when you go to town with her and stop by the only place around where you live that has DVDs and Blu ray sets of anime. Then as you walk by the children's section you notice that there's an old Hentai next to spongebob. You proceed to mentally debate with yourself whether or not you should bring it to an employee and point out where it should be. Than you decide otherwise on account of not wanting to explain to you're mother how you know what it is.
......Really?

Lace
September 21st, 2015, 06:07 PM
i googled touhou oral wow impulse and the first results were leo's profile and this (https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7091560/3/Gensokyo-Erotic-Incidents)

Kirby
September 21st, 2015, 06:08 PM
I'm pretty sure your search results are based off of your history, hence why Leo would show up.

Snow
September 21st, 2015, 06:08 PM
I'll try to distract with the gayest and best animu ever! If you haven't watched SKU yet, you should.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jlhin2R-9L8

mAc Chaos
September 21st, 2015, 06:09 PM
i thought those two avatars were those witches from umineko

Lace
September 21st, 2015, 06:09 PM
I'm pretty sure your search results are based off of your history, hence why Leo would show up.

But I don't read fanfiction.net

You
September 21st, 2015, 06:09 PM
wagging my finger at the B-ranked-ness.

Lace
September 21st, 2015, 06:09 PM
i thought those two avatars were those witches from umineko

Lambdadelta and Flandre look very similar

Janx
September 21st, 2015, 06:10 PM
I'll try to distract with the gayest and best animu ever! If you haven't watched SKU yet, you should.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jlhin2R-9L8

Whats this?

SeiKeo
September 21st, 2015, 06:10 PM
i googled touhou oral wow impulse and the first results were leo's profile and this (https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7091560/3/Gensokyo-Erotic-Incidents)
Has this ever happened to you?

mAc Chaos
September 21st, 2015, 06:10 PM
i tried searching the same thing and got different results

Snow
September 21st, 2015, 06:11 PM
Whats this?
Shojo Kakumei Utena, The Movie. Both the movie and the series are great. Weird, tho.

just Beamu
September 21st, 2015, 06:11 PM
......Really?
Yep.

Lace
September 21st, 2015, 06:12 PM
Idk if this leads you to my results but here (https://www.google.de/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=oral+wow+impulse+touhou)

just Beamu
September 21st, 2015, 06:13 PM
I'll try to distract with the gayest and best animu ever! If you haven't watched SKU yet, you should.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jlhin2R-9L8
Magnificent.

Thedoctor
September 21st, 2015, 06:13 PM
why are u quoting christian website text im not the antichrist it wont make me light up in flames

But you kinda are....

mAc Chaos
September 21st, 2015, 06:14 PM
Idk if this leads you to my results but here (https://www.google.de/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=oral+wow+impulse+touhou)
oh its because youre using german google

hmm even using google.de mine were different

RIP

Leftovers
September 21st, 2015, 06:14 PM
this (https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7091560/3/Gensokyo-Erotic-Incidents)

this is some high-tier doujin-ness

SeiKeo
September 21st, 2015, 06:17 PM
333-YUUKAZAMI

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Oh wait this got some real good sig stuff, 1 sec

Shikieiki
September 21st, 2015, 06:17 PM
And the guys of Man At Arms finally made Excalibur. I can rest in peace.

just Beamu
September 21st, 2015, 06:18 PM
And the guys of Man At Arms finally made Excalibur. I can rest in peace.
They forgot the fairy letters though. Sader/10 would not Excaliblast.

GhostDIGIT
September 21st, 2015, 06:18 PM
I love those guys.

Lace
September 21st, 2015, 06:18 PM
this is some high-tier doujin-ness

you're welcome i guess

GhostDIGIT
September 21st, 2015, 06:18 PM
They forgot the fairy letters though. Sader/10 would not Excaliblast.
Prepare for a kinky punishment.

just Beamu
September 21st, 2015, 06:19 PM
Prepare for a kinky punishment.
What are you talking about?

GhostDIGIT
September 21st, 2015, 06:21 PM
Bondage sex.

just Beamu
September 21st, 2015, 06:21 PM
Bondage sex.
Where the fuck did that come from?

GhostDIGIT
September 21st, 2015, 06:22 PM
Kinky punishment.

Lace
September 21st, 2015, 06:22 PM
yeah.. good night

Frostyvale
September 21st, 2015, 06:22 PM
Circular.

Kirby
September 21st, 2015, 06:23 PM
Please post more poetry.

Leftovers
September 21st, 2015, 06:23 PM
you're welcome i guess

Oi.

Snow
September 21st, 2015, 06:23 PM
Post anything other than this please!

GhostDIGIT
September 21st, 2015, 06:24 PM
I killed the seventh. ;_;

Frostyvale
September 21st, 2015, 06:24 PM
Shall I compare thee to a summer's day?
Thou art more lovely and more temperate:
Rough winds do shake the darling buds of May,
And summer's lease hath all too short a date

just Beamu
September 21st, 2015, 06:24 PM
I killed the seventh. ;_;
I didn't know you could do that.

Snow
September 21st, 2015, 06:25 PM
I killed the seventh. ;_;
That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons even death may die.

GhostDIGIT
September 21st, 2015, 06:25 PM
It's easier than you think.

JetKinen
September 21st, 2015, 06:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xIYVw3ZPJk

'Raslin is serious

SeiKeo
September 21st, 2015, 06:26 PM
Please post more poetry.
Thou dost creep within the night;
Damp ground and air to aid thy flight.
The darkness keepeth thee from sight,
While on my lettuce thou dost bite
And drape with slime.
But thou hast crept too stealthily;
And was not this the death of thee?
For though it was too dark to see,
A noise could have prevented me
From crushing thee last night.

GhostDIGIT
September 21st, 2015, 06:27 PM
That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons even death may die.
Does that mean every eldritch god can die?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xIYVw3ZPJk

'Raslin is serious
The fuck.

just Beamu
September 21st, 2015, 06:27 PM
Post anything other than this please!
You said anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xx4tszZ-DE

Elthanes
September 21st, 2015, 06:28 PM
yeah.. good night

As if

Frostyvale
September 21st, 2015, 06:28 PM
Seventh I quit thee at once.

GhostDIGIT
September 21st, 2015, 06:30 PM
Don't leave, Frosty! ;_;

Rafflesiac
September 21st, 2015, 06:31 PM
oh its because youre using german google

hmm even using google.de mine were different

RIP
Every time I use Twitter it's in Japanese.

just Beamu
September 21st, 2015, 06:32 PM
Every time I use Twitter it's in Japanese.
Are you in Japan?

Leftovers
September 21st, 2015, 06:35 PM
Please post more poetry.

Naked she lay, clasped in my longing arms,
I filled with love, and she all over charms;
Both equally inspired with eager fire,
Melting through kindness, flaming in desire.
With arms, legs, lips close clinging to embrace,
She clips me to her breast, and sucks me to her face.
Her nimble tongue, Love's lesser lightening, played
Within my mouth, and to my thoughts conveyed
Swift orders that I should prepare to throw
The all-dissolving thunderbolt below.
My fluttering soul, sprung with the painted kiss,
Hangs hovering o'er her balmy brinks of bliss.
But whilst her busy hand would guide that part
Which should convey my soul up to her heart,
In liquid raptures I dissolve all o'er,
Melt into sperm, and spend at every pore.
A touch from any part of her had done't:
Her hand, her foot, her very look's a cunt.

Smiling, she chides in a kind murmuring noise,
And from her body wipes the clammy joys,
When, with a thousand kisses wandering o'er
My panting bosom, "Is there then no more?"
She cries. "All this to love and rapture's due;
Must we not pay a debt to pleasure too?"

But I, the most forlorn, lost man alive,
To show my wished obedience vainly strive:
I sigh, alas! and kiss, but cannot swive.
Eager desires confound my first intent,
Succeeding shame does more success prevent,
And rage at last confirms me impotent.
Ev'n her fair hand, which might bid heat return
To frozen age, and make cold hermits burn,
Applied to my dead cinder, warms no more
Than fire to ashes could past flames restore.
Trembling, confused, despairing, limber, dry,
A wishing, weak, unmoving lump I lie.
This dart of love, whose piercing point, oft tried,
With virgin blood ten thousand maids have dyed;
Which nature still directed with such art
That it through every cunt reached every heart
Stiffly resolved, 'twould carelessly invade
Woman or man, nor aught its fury stayed:
Where'er it pierced, a cunt it found or made
Now languid lies in this unhappy hour,
Shrunk up and sapless like a withered flower.

Thou treacherous, base deserter of my flame,
False to my passion, fatal to my fame,
Through what mistaken magic dost thou prove
So true to lewdness, so untrue to love?
What oyster-cinder-beggar-common whore
Didst thou e'er fail in all thy life before?
When vice, disease, and scandal lead the way,
With what officious haste dost thou obey!
Like a rude, roaring hector in the streets
Who scuffles, cuffs, and justles all he meets,
But if his king or country claim his aid,
The rakehell villain shrinks and hides his head;
Ev'n so thy brutal valour is displayed,
Breaks every stew, does each small whore invade,
But when great Love the onset does command,
Base recreant to thy prince, thou dar'st not stand.
Worst part of me, and henceforth hated most,
Through all the town a common fucking-post,
On whom each whore relieves her tingling cunt
As hogs do rub themselves on gates and grunt,
May'st thou to ravenous chancres be a prey,
Or in consuming weepings waste away;
May strangury and stone thy days attend;
May'st thou ne'er piss, who did refuse to spend
When all my joys did on false thee depend.

And may ten thousand abler pricks agree
To do the wronged Corinna right for thee.

Strife ❤️
September 21st, 2015, 06:35 PM
http://i.imgur.com/dVCyFZm.gif

Kirby
September 21st, 2015, 06:37 PM
Strife why

GhostDIGIT
September 21st, 2015, 06:37 PM
The kitties can't be caged!

just Beamu
September 21st, 2015, 06:38 PM
http://i.imgur.com/dVCyFZm.gif


The fuck?

Strife ❤️
September 21st, 2015, 06:38 PM
(It's reversed and they are rescuing a cat that got stuck)

just Beamu
September 21st, 2015, 06:38 PM
You bastard.

JetKinen
September 21st, 2015, 06:39 PM
the gif is reversed

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How the fuck does a cat even get in that situation.

SeiKeo
September 21st, 2015, 06:40 PM
the gif is reversed

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How the fuck does a cat even get in that situation.
Is cat: [x]

Rafflesiac
September 21st, 2015, 06:43 PM
How the fuck does a cat even get in that situation.
if (isCat) {run snafu.exe;}

Seika
September 21st, 2015, 06:49 PM
ahh, I can't do it, I can't read another modern AU about Fang/Light being cute together make it stop get new material
On this (long-past) subject, I recently made the angriest bookmark I've ever written.


OK, look, I really really hate this ficlet collection. I hate it because intellectually I should be (and sort of am) so bloody tired of infinite Clarke/Bellamy modern AUs. Even Chash thinks it's a joke by now.

Except they're all really good and funny and even when I tell myself I do not need to see yet another variation on the same theme, when I finally get around to it, I have to admit that I did need to see it. This is incredibly frustrating for me, because something in these chapters seems to be entirely bypassing my brain, and I want it to end. Please, please stop being this good. Thank you.

Janx
September 21st, 2015, 06:59 PM
I didn't even recognize Seika with that lily avatar.

SeiKeo
September 21st, 2015, 07:04 PM
What is she even doing in that picture?

GhostDIGIT
September 21st, 2015, 07:04 PM
Looking serious.

Strife ❤️
September 21st, 2015, 07:05 PM
Charging forward

Janx
September 21st, 2015, 07:07 PM
Does the full image include her legs? I have a hard time imagining how she's standing.

Seika
September 21st, 2015, 07:11 PM
I didn't even crop it (http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=5243359).

Bobin
September 21st, 2015, 07:11 PM
If Gawain got pregnant, and he's wearing special armor for pregnant knights.

SeiKeo
September 21st, 2015, 07:18 PM
Dear lord, what is that Miku picture that the artist did.

GhostDIGIT
September 21st, 2015, 07:20 PM
Something really kinky.

Janx
September 21st, 2015, 07:21 PM
Lol I was looking at the other Miku pic and was like "whats wrong with her in a nightie"

Then my log-in to pixiv went through and I saw.

Bobin
September 21st, 2015, 07:26 PM
Lol I was looking at the other Miku pic and was like "whats wrong with her in a nightie"

Then my log-in to pixiv went through and I saw.
Same. Is that a blow dryer?

Strife ❤️
September 21st, 2015, 07:30 PM
Lol...

It's a megaphone.

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/vocaloid/images/6/65/%E6%81%8B%E3%81%AF%E6%88%A6%E4%BA%89.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110906044638

Janx
September 21st, 2015, 07:31 PM
Same. Is that a blow dryer?

It must have died and she's finding a new way to use it instead of throw it out.

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Lol...

It's a megaphone.

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/vocaloid/images/6/65/%E6%81%8B%E3%81%AF%E6%88%A6%E4%BA%89.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110906044638

Why would you put a megaphone there?

Strife ❤️
September 21st, 2015, 07:33 PM
Why wouldn't you?

Bobin
September 21st, 2015, 07:36 PM
Megaphone with a wire? Please

GhostDIGIT
September 21st, 2015, 07:41 PM
The spectacular spider ocelot.

GhostDIGIT
September 21st, 2015, 07:54 PM
If you ever have children would you teach them how to play video games?

just Beamu
September 21st, 2015, 07:55 PM
If you ever have children would you teach them how to play video games?
If I ever have children(I won't) then they should be immediately taken away.

Dullahan
September 21st, 2015, 08:41 PM
precisely how high is the predicted fire risk here that my college feels the need to have this fucking many fire drills

GhostDIGIT
September 21st, 2015, 08:41 PM
Low.

just Beamu
September 21st, 2015, 08:42 PM
precisely how high is the predicted fire risk here that my college feels the need to have this fucking many fire drills
How many fire drills have you had recently?

SeiKeo
September 21st, 2015, 08:42 PM
precisely how high is the predicted fire risk here that my college feels the need to have this fucking many fire drills
Liberal safety fetishism.

Strife ❤️
September 21st, 2015, 08:43 PM
Ah, I remember the days of having to evacuate dorms in the middle of the night because someone didn't know how to use their toaster properly.

Rafflesiac
September 21st, 2015, 08:44 PM
precisely how high is the predicted fire risk here that my college feels the need to have this fucking many fire drills
The risk of fires dramatically increases at around 2:30 a.m.

just Beamu
September 21st, 2015, 08:45 PM
At the moment there's a gigantic bonfire at the nearby highschool reaching at least 5 or 6 meters into the air with fire trucks surrounding it in case it gets out of control.

Kirby
September 21st, 2015, 09:01 PM
test

Janx
September 21st, 2015, 09:03 PM
hmm?

Spinach
September 21st, 2015, 10:19 PM
Spinach Potter and the Quadruple Espresso

Janx
September 21st, 2015, 10:25 PM
I remember when people smoking indoors set off the fire alarms in the dorms while I was off having dinner. Or perhaps it was something involving drugs, the story of the cause is a bit muddled. Anyway, the building's fire sprinklers flooded all 3 floors of the south half of the dorms. This was in the middle of winter, during exam season. Those in the south dorms got refunds and had to find stay for the next term elsewhere. The damage from the water took whole year to fix and still smelled like mold by the time I finished.

Luckily my room was not in the south portion.

just Beamu
September 21st, 2015, 10:47 PM
About half of my entire Elementary School burned to the ground due to an electrical fire. This was like a year and a half ago.

Spinach
September 21st, 2015, 11:06 PM
No jokes here, there's something about the hour after I've had seafood where my libido is on fire. Is this some sort of anime sexual powerup food or something?

Kirby
September 21st, 2015, 11:09 PM
I've never had that experience tbh, though I only really each fish

Spinach
September 21st, 2015, 11:10 PM
I'm not a regular seafood kinda guy, which comes with living in a landlocked state tbh but sometimes you gotta order the linguine di mare. Anyway my crotch is an inferno help.

just Beamu
September 21st, 2015, 11:12 PM
I'm not a regular seafood kinda guy, which comes with living in a landlocked state tbh but sometimes you gotta order the linguine di mare. Anyway my crotch is an inferno help.
Become an eroge protagonist. It's what you were born to do.

Lace
September 21st, 2015, 11:16 PM
Your crotch being on fire sounds kind of painful

Spinach
September 21st, 2015, 11:17 PM
Yes

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Suffice to say it is uncomfortable to have an inferno in your pants.

Lace
September 21st, 2015, 11:19 PM
castrate urself

just Beamu
September 21st, 2015, 11:19 PM
The only way to cure it is to embrace your role as the protagonist in the eroge that is your life. Or go see a doctor.

Spinach
September 21st, 2015, 11:20 PM
castrate urself

N.o.

SeiKeo
September 21st, 2015, 11:21 PM
Fuck your sister.

Rocket Burrito
September 21st, 2015, 11:21 PM
castrate urself
I find it hard to believe that a cute Yamato avatar is telling a spinach to castrate himself.

Lace
September 21st, 2015, 11:23 PM
Fuck your sister.

mods???

Spinach
September 21st, 2015, 11:24 PM
Fuck your sister.

YES


mods???

Yes?

just Beamu
September 21st, 2015, 11:26 PM
YES
See? He's already embracing the eroge life.

Janx
September 21st, 2015, 11:26 PM
castrate urself

I'm imagining this in a cute ship voice.

SeiKeo
September 21st, 2015, 11:28 PM
I'm imagining this in a cute ship voice.
It's not even cute Yamato art

Lace
September 21st, 2015, 11:29 PM
Yes?

this evil man is spreading incestuous thoughts please erase him .also he smells

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It's not even cute Yamato art

http://i.imgur.com/DaJMo2z.jpg

SeiKeo
September 21st, 2015, 11:30 PM
http://i.imgur.com/9HFeGp6.png

Spinach
September 21st, 2015, 11:33 PM
this evil man is spreading incestuous thoughts please erase him .also he smells

All he's doing is telling me to follow my dreams and there is NOTHING wrong with that.

Lace
September 21st, 2015, 11:36 PM
yes yes b ut u ignored the smell part its important too

Spinach
September 21st, 2015, 11:37 PM
I love Leo, suspiciously squid-like BO and all.

Historia
September 21st, 2015, 11:46 PM
I really need to stop eating severely spicy foods for awhile.

Spinach
September 21st, 2015, 11:54 PM
Don't stop actually.

Rocket Burrito
September 21st, 2015, 11:56 PM
I just can't take lace seriously anymore, I just look at her avie and I get a stab in my heart because I can't imagine Yamato saying such things.

just Beamu
September 21st, 2015, 11:57 PM
I just can't take lace seriously anymore, I just look at her avie and I get a stab in my heart because I can't imagine Yamato saying such things.
Lace makes everything evil.

Rocket Burrito
September 21st, 2015, 11:59 PM
Never trust a girl who calls you an angel cake.

Spinach
September 21st, 2015, 11:59 PM
Has she called you angel cake? Lace never calls /me/ angel cake...

Rocket Burrito
September 22nd, 2015, 12:00 AM
Has she called you angel cake? Lace never calls /me/ angel cake...
Yes

Historia
September 22nd, 2015, 01:10 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vcVmGb_ff4&feature=youtu.be

Bunch o' nerds.

Lace
September 22nd, 2015, 01:20 AM
Has she called you angel cake? Lace never calls /me/ angel cake...

You just said you had an inferno in your pants how am I supposed to innocently call you an angel cake jfc

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Yes

ur still an angel though ill protect u from these sinners

just Beamu
September 22nd, 2015, 01:21 AM
They forgot the Fairy Letters. Sader/10 would not Excaliblast.

Bobin
September 22nd, 2015, 01:23 AM
I wanted Gae Blog :/

Then they could make fun it in the end by sticking in between their legs and making inappropriate humping motions.

Spinach
September 22nd, 2015, 01:23 AM
You just said you had an inferno in your pants how am I supposed to innocently call you an angel cake jfc

plz call me cutesy names it'll make my day

just Beamu
September 22nd, 2015, 01:25 AM
I wanted Gae Blog :/

Then they could make fun it in the end by sticking in between their legs and making inappropriate humping motions.
While commenting on their Gay Bulges.

Bobin
September 22nd, 2015, 01:27 AM
While commenting on their Gay Bulges.
Yes. unfunny Gay Bulge jokes.

Would've been great. What a lost opportunity.

Lace
September 22nd, 2015, 01:28 AM
plz call me cutesy names it'll make my day

sometimes spinach doesnt taste all that bad

thats as far as ill go

Spinach
September 22nd, 2015, 01:29 AM
sometimes spinach doesnt taste all that bad

thats as far as ill go

thanks sugar it means a lot to me honey you know I still think dearly of you darling no big deal my heart isn't broken sweety

Lace
September 22nd, 2015, 01:34 AM
yr welcom

Spinach
September 22nd, 2015, 01:37 AM
i'm actually crying

GhostDIGIT
September 22nd, 2015, 01:38 AM
I've finally finished scenario 4 in HoMM's campaign. The joy on my face when I realized the next scenario involved conquering the reds(Lord Ironfist's Faction), the bastards who just wouldn't lay down and die.

Lace
September 22nd, 2015, 01:39 AM
i'm actually crying

http://40.media.tumblr.com/0301f8fcd7869d163fbf7e59f6907bc3/tumblr_n82328ZaC11rpr100o1_500.png

im freedom from black children wby

GhostDIGIT
September 22nd, 2015, 01:40 AM
I'm the war on male wallstreet.

Janx
September 22nd, 2015, 01:41 AM
De-marginalization of white people who aren't me.

mAc Chaos
September 22nd, 2015, 01:43 AM
freedom from the eating of dolphins

Snow
September 22nd, 2015, 01:43 AM
Save male racism????

Janx
September 22nd, 2015, 01:44 AM
Save male racism????

Male lives matter!

Bobin
September 22nd, 2015, 01:45 AM
God hates minorities :<

GhostDIGIT
September 22nd, 2015, 01:47 AM
You're not wearing a shirt, Bobbin?

Spinach
September 22nd, 2015, 01:47 AM
http://40.media.tumblr.com/0301f8fcd7869d163fbf7e59f6907bc3/tumblr_n82328ZaC11rpr100o1_500.png

im freedom from black children wby

Blame the endangered people who aren't me

Bobin
September 22nd, 2015, 01:49 AM
You're not wearing a shirt, Bobbin?

God hates black minorities.
Thanks shirt. Now I have a special place in hell.

tbh I just put one on

Haseo Nanaya
September 22nd, 2015, 01:51 AM
http://40.media.tumblr.com/0301f8fcd7869d163fbf7e59f6907bc3/tumblr_n82328ZaC11rpr100o1_500.png

im freedom from black children wby
save black (im not letting you know the first letter of my name but the answer does not make sence since they dont exist, but the sentance is still good.) marijuwana

just Beamu
September 22nd, 2015, 01:53 AM
Save male people who aren't me.

Snow
September 22nd, 2015, 02:10 AM
Save male people who aren't me.
Well hello there Emiya.

Janx
September 22nd, 2015, 02:13 AM
Well hello there Emiya.

Shirou wants to save women too.

Because they can't fight.

Snow
September 22nd, 2015, 02:17 AM
Shirou wants to save women too.

Because they can't fight.
Didn't register the male part.

black1blade
September 22nd, 2015, 02:19 AM
Christians for male americans.

Rocket Burrito
September 22nd, 2015, 02:31 AM
http://40.media.tumblr.com/0301f8fcd7869d163fbf7e59f6907bc3/tumblr_n82328ZaC11rpr100o1_500.png

im freedom from black children wby
I'm apparently: God hates black Africa.
Why.

Thedoctor
September 22nd, 2015, 02:31 AM
Shirou wants to save women too.

Because they can't fight.
Kinda funny consudering he's team mom.

Bobin
September 22nd, 2015, 02:34 AM
I'm apparently: God hates black Africa.
Why.


God hates black minorities.
Thanks shirt. Now I have a special place in hell.
O hai thar frand

Sunara
September 22nd, 2015, 02:37 AM
Blame male bronies... "...."

Ivan The Mouse
September 22nd, 2015, 02:37 AM
"Legalization of Black Racism."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHow the fuck?

Janx
September 22nd, 2015, 02:52 AM
Kinda funny consudering he's team mom.

Not to derail this in that discussion, but I think it was just Nasu being silly. He doesn't really seem to mind Saber fighting outside her route (at least due to her gender), and I don't think he ever complains about Rin fighting ever.

Thedoctor
September 22nd, 2015, 03:14 AM
How many more fate games will we get before the cow goes dry?

Ivan The Mouse
September 22nd, 2015, 03:18 AM
How many more fate games will we get before the cow goes dry?

It's a trick question. The cow never goes dry, as long as people still want its milk.

Rocket Burrito
September 22nd, 2015, 03:20 AM
How many more fate games will we get before the cow goes dry?
Infinite, for Nasu's true noble phantasm is the cow of promised milk.