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ItsaRandomUsername
July 29th, 2011, 12:43 AM
'tis true. Costco is members-only. Not really sure why, though.

MZeroX
July 29th, 2011, 12:44 AM
because wholesale is buttloads cheaper than retail, so they have to make money some way. well worth the membership if you go a lot or buy wholesale in even more bulk, though if you don't go often, it isn't worth it.

Kotonoha
July 29th, 2011, 12:44 AM
'tis true. Costco is members-only. Not really sure why, though.

To make money off memberships probably.

ItsaRandomUsername
July 29th, 2011, 12:47 AM
...there goes my conspiracy theory.

Kotonoha
July 29th, 2011, 12:52 AM
...there goes my conspiracy theory.

Hey, like I said, it creeps me out.

What else are they hiding behind those doors...

Theocrass
July 29th, 2011, 12:53 AM
Delicious food and great deals?

ItsaRandomUsername
July 29th, 2011, 12:56 AM
Human trafficking and drug cartels?

Theocrass
July 29th, 2011, 12:58 AM
Costco would be a great place to crash if there was ever a zombie apocalypse, but unfortunately they don't sell weapons. ;_;

I can imagine why.

They'd probably sell eight packs of shotguns.

ItsaRandomUsername
July 29th, 2011, 12:59 AM
^
Fuuunnny 'cause it's true.

Alulim
July 29th, 2011, 01:02 AM
I am prepared for the impending zombie apocalypse. Grandpa, the paranoid former marine that he was, built a bomb shelter in our back yard during the cold war.

Theocrass
July 29th, 2011, 01:03 AM
Okay, so we hit Big 5 first, then go to Costco, then go to a real gun store, and then go to Aru-chan's house?

Alulim
July 29th, 2011, 01:04 AM
Okay, so we hit Big 5 first, then go to Costco, then go to a real gun store, and then go to Aru-chan's house?It was built under the forest that is my back yard, so there is plenty of room~

ItsaRandomUsername
July 29th, 2011, 01:05 AM
Hells yeah. I am also readying myself for the inevitable zombie apocalypse.

Thank you, Zombie Survival Guide~

Alulim
July 29th, 2011, 01:17 AM
It will come, we just don't know when.

Lotus Saint
July 29th, 2011, 01:35 AM
I'd squeeze Mami's mammies IYKWIM.

MZeroX
July 29th, 2011, 01:49 AM
YEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRR~~~~
Mami's mammies.

and zombie apocalypse. I SHALL SHOW YOU WHAT IT MEANS TO BURN.

Lotus Saint
July 29th, 2011, 01:57 AM
In a zombie Apocalypse it's best to go with something with a lot of ammo.

MZeroX
July 29th, 2011, 02:00 AM
do you know what makes good "ammo" for fire?

zombies.

Lotus Saint
July 29th, 2011, 02:39 AM
Not really.

Zombies don't burn well on their own.

You need to douse them in a highly flammable fluid first, home-made napalm does this quite nicely.

MZeroX
July 29th, 2011, 02:41 AM
drying them out should make them into good kindle. which can be done quite naturally if they're trapped inside of an intentional conflagration. I'm assuming massive amounts here.

ItsaRandomUsername
July 29th, 2011, 02:50 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha-b8sZ_-VA&feature=related

Damn, now I'm getting nostalgic. :'/

Lotus Saint
July 29th, 2011, 02:50 AM
Just douse them in napalm and watch as they burn for a long ass time.

Napalm is a bitch to remove.

MZeroX
July 29th, 2011, 02:56 AM
true enough. either way, FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Lotus Saint
July 29th, 2011, 03:04 AM
http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg452/blackmage1234567890/Horawhatarewegonnadoonthegrass.jpg?t=1311923022

Because I fucking laughed.

NOW IF ONLY I COULD GET MY 10 MINUTE VIDEOS OF HER GOING "HORA HORA HORA".

ItsaRandomUsername
July 29th, 2011, 03:06 AM
Use the vagina that won't devour you whole, by the way.

Lotus Saint
July 29th, 2011, 03:08 AM
That probably won't be till part 2 or 3.

MZeroX
July 29th, 2011, 03:10 AM
please keep me posted for when all parts are translated. i trucked through the entire thing in moonrunes a while ago, but i'd really like to know what i did other than fuck monstergirls.

Lotus Saint
July 29th, 2011, 03:12 AM
English patch for part 1 is finished.

http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg452/blackmage1234567890/GnomeslappingSylph.png?t=1311924041


Anyone else HHHHHHNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGG from Sylph's and Chrome's "Wawawawa"s?

Five_X
July 29th, 2011, 03:29 AM
What is this thing I've somehow never heard of?

Lotus Saint
July 29th, 2011, 03:31 AM
Monmusu quest.

It can be found on the internet.

Be careful of which one you download, you may get the joke one where it plays Yakaty Sax when you're raped and Heavy going "POW! Hehe" when you cum.

Five_X
July 29th, 2011, 03:35 AM
*reads VNDB description*

Lolwut?

Lotus Saint
July 29th, 2011, 03:37 AM
Rape.

LOTS OF RAPE.

And a horrible artist who makes many people go NOPE at the monsters he drew.
Of course it also has Kenkou Cross, who is THE best monster girl artist.

Alulim
July 29th, 2011, 03:42 AM
Of course it also has Kenkou Cross, who is THE best monster girl artist.Amen.

Lotus Saint
July 29th, 2011, 03:44 AM
Of course Kitsune, Tamano, Dragon pup, loli vamp, and loli Lamia were drawn by someone else.

Then there's the person who drew Chrome and Frederica.
I don't know how I should feel about him.

Alulim
July 29th, 2011, 03:45 AM
Of course Kitsune, Tamano, Dragon pup, loli vamp, and loli Lamia were drawn by someone else.Still nice, they were.

Lotus Saint
July 29th, 2011, 03:55 AM
> Fighting Nanabi
> Lose
> "Oh well, at least I'll get massaged by fluffy tails"
> Tails turn into tentacles
> MFW
2297

Alulim
July 29th, 2011, 03:59 AM
> Fighting Nanabi
> Lose
> "Oh well, at least I'll get massaged by fluffy tails"
> Tails turn into tentacles
> MFW
2297I know that feeling.

Ivan The Mouse
July 29th, 2011, 06:13 AM
I hate this feeling.

Flame
July 29th, 2011, 10:00 AM
testing new sig, edit: ... not sure if i like it or hate it ...

Optimus
July 29th, 2011, 10:23 AM
I think it's pretty lol-worthy if anything else.

Guys, I gotta make a quick announcement: from here onwards I'm Dr. Optimus.

Altima of the Gates
July 29th, 2011, 11:28 AM
Congratulations, Optimu-I mean Dr. Optimus.


Rape.

LOTS OF RAPE.

And a horrible artist who makes many people go NOPE at the monsters he drew.
Of course it also has Kenkou Cross, who is THE best monster girl artist.

*crosses off 'VN to try' list*
Hmm, which one shall I go for now...

*gets call from Red Cross*

Yes, I know you want the platelets, yes I will be there Sunday, for the third time already.

Optimus
July 29th, 2011, 11:38 AM
Now there are two doctors at Beast's Lair... Dr Rapebird and Dr Opti. Cool.

Kotonoha
July 29th, 2011, 11:53 AM
Congratulations, Optimu-I mean Dr. Optimus.



*crosses off 'VN to try' list*
Hmm, which one shall I go for now...

*gets call from Red Cross*

Yes, I know you want the platelets, yes I will be there Sunday, for the third time already.

Likes freakish penis girls, can't handle rape.

You are the worst deviant ever.

ItsaRandomUsername
July 29th, 2011, 12:00 PM
That probably won't be till part 2 or 3.

When the lamia-lovemaking actually does occur, here's hoping that they'll actually mix it up and that it won't be femdom for once. I want Luka to man up, quit denying himself what he really wants and drill that snake like any good horny H-Game hero should.

Tobias
July 29th, 2011, 12:03 PM
assuming thats the one I was thinking of, I have actually been playing that lately.


the monster girls start bad, and get worse.


yet, I still play it. its like a train wreck you cant look away from. also, the bad guys in the game are basically the ones introduced in elf's fic. big believers in tolerance and rape at the same time. they are progressive rapists.

Kotonoha
July 29th, 2011, 12:03 PM
When the lamia-lovemaking actually does occur, here's hoping that they'll actually mix it up and that it won't be femdom for once. I want Luka to man up, quit denying himself what he really wants and drill that snake like any good horny H-Game hero should.

Isn't it supposed to be a femdom game? I mean it has "IF YOU LOSE YOU GET RAPED" in the title.

ItsaRandomUsername
July 29th, 2011, 12:07 PM
My hopes have been dashed to itty bits. ;_;

Ah well, it's still lamia-sexing so I can't complain.

Kotonoha
July 29th, 2011, 12:11 PM
*looks at Irun's avatar*
*looks at Irun's top sig*

...You sure you're not into femdom?

Or are you just into lolidom, because that is pretty hot.

Alulim
July 29th, 2011, 02:03 PM
I want Luka to man up, quit denying himself what he really wants and drill that snake like any good horny H-Game hero should.Drill the snake~

Theocrass
July 29th, 2011, 02:11 PM
What H game are we talking about, again?

Tobias
July 29th, 2011, 02:12 PM
"shota gets monster raped repeatedly amidst some kind of weird tolerance message"


I think thats the name. or should be.

Kotonoha
July 29th, 2011, 02:12 PM
Monstergirl Quest! ~If you lose you are raped by enchantresses~

Nukige have the best titles.

Theocrass
July 29th, 2011, 02:20 PM
Shota?! Monstergirl?!

Sounds ... intriguing.

Gaia
July 29th, 2011, 03:19 PM
Oh shit, I'm always in hurry. But it's my own fault, I left too late for shopping. Now I'm going to a consert to see one of my oldest favourites, and need to hurry, if I wanna see also the performer before him. Some newcomer, who sounded interesting. Well, better get going...

Kotonoha
July 29th, 2011, 03:21 PM
Have fun Gaia!

Theocrass
July 29th, 2011, 03:22 PM
What Koto said!

ItsaRandomUsername
July 29th, 2011, 03:25 PM
*looks at Irun's avatar*
*looks at Irun's top sig*

...You sure you're not into femdom?

Or are you just into lolidom, because that is pretty hot.

I'm into both femdom and lolidom, I'm just saying that the game should mix it up just a little if only for one time since every H-scene so far has either been RAPE THE SHOTA or DOMINATE THE SHOTA.

I like variety.

Although I sure as hell won't complain when/if Alice makes Luka her bitch even more than she already has. ;)

Gaia
July 29th, 2011, 04:43 PM
I managed to hear 6 or 7 songs of Mirel Wagner, a woman and a guitar. Of course I was late. . . But I bought her album, so I can listen more home. Now I have to wait till midnight. A glass of wine made me sleepy, I didn't get enough sleep after night shift. And here is so hot... ZZZ

Lotus Saint
July 29th, 2011, 04:46 PM
The actual name is Monmusu Quest.

And it isn't bad at first, you get Alice, the slime, and the loli bandits.

But later on it's downright awful with the suck vore and iron-maiden.

ItsaRandomUsername
July 29th, 2011, 05:20 PM
Slime Girl was love~

Lotus Saint
July 29th, 2011, 05:21 PM
There's going to be more in the second game.
Along with a succubus and a dullahan.

Of course, it isn't the adorable Kenkou dullahan...

ItsaRandomUsername
July 29th, 2011, 05:22 PM
Dullahan.....not sure if want.

Succubi are always a plus. Unless they try to eat you with their tails. Looking at you, Arumaeapafhfisooxjxsoosll... >:/

Lotus Saint
July 29th, 2011, 05:25 PM
> fighting arumalalapaladalaflambalakadakasamahaka
> "Do you want me to use my hands, my breasts, or maybe anal?"
> YESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYES
> "I got it, I'll use my tail!"
> MFW
2302

ItsaRandomUsername
July 29th, 2011, 05:37 PM
That Bad End gave me the squickes. Anything with tentacles kind of turns me off big time.

Except for Alice's tail-mouth.

Lotus Saint
July 29th, 2011, 05:41 PM
Then there's the bad end with Frederica.

>Lose
>Oh god what's going to happen to Luka now
>"Bla bla nonstop sex for a year for SCIENCE"
>half an hour of text later
>MFW
2303

ItsaRandomUsername
July 29th, 2011, 05:43 PM
^
This.

Is that a photoshopped Rance who is supposed to resemble Luka....somewhat?

Lotus Saint
July 29th, 2011, 05:44 PM
Rance with his color altered.
2304

ItsaRandomUsername
July 29th, 2011, 05:53 PM
Chrome-tan~

Lotus Saint
July 29th, 2011, 05:54 PM
Sylph > Chrome.

ItsaRandomUsername
July 29th, 2011, 06:03 PM
Indubitably. >=D

Lotus Saint
July 29th, 2011, 06:06 PM
I have HIGH hopes for Undine.

Alulim
July 29th, 2011, 07:08 PM
Sylph was win. Haven't gotten to Gnome yet.

Altima of the Gates
July 29th, 2011, 09:40 PM
Likes freakish penis girls, can't handle rape.

You are the worst deviant ever.

I know, guys into futanari/futa on male/futa on female/futa on futa/miko-priestess/pegging/crossdressing is passe.
I'm behind the times.

Lotus Saint
July 29th, 2011, 09:44 PM
So you like girls with dicks?

Altima of the Gates
July 29th, 2011, 09:54 PM
Yup.

SeiKeo
July 29th, 2011, 09:55 PM
...hell, I can dig it.

Lotus Saint
July 29th, 2011, 10:13 PM
EEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

It's alright every now and then.

ItsaRandomUsername
July 29th, 2011, 11:35 PM
I really like looking at jellyfish.

So pretty~

Ivan The Mouse
July 29th, 2011, 11:36 PM
I really like looking at jellyfish.

So pretty~

You also like tentacles?

ItsaRandomUsername
July 29th, 2011, 11:37 PM
Looking at pretty tentacles? Yes.

Getting stung by them/raped by them/torn apart by them/eaten by them/choked by them? Not so much.

Ivan The Mouse
July 29th, 2011, 11:40 PM
No, I mean Naughty Tentacles. You like them on your animu girls?

ItsaRandomUsername
July 29th, 2011, 11:41 PM
If I'm not going to get raped for the rest of my life by them, I don't see why not.

Squid Girl FTW~

DB-L
July 29th, 2011, 11:43 PM
Because it's a big, stupid jellyfish. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG43LcH3CNo)

Ivan The Mouse
July 30th, 2011, 12:33 AM
If I'm not going to get raped for the rest of my life by them, I don't see why not.

Squid Girl FTW~

No, I mean you like seeing animu girls being raped by tentacles?

ItsaRandomUsername
July 30th, 2011, 12:34 AM
Jury's still out on that one.

Ivan The Mouse
July 30th, 2011, 12:56 AM
...I hate you, IRun.

ItsaRandomUsername
July 30th, 2011, 01:01 AM
Fine, I'll admit I like them. Most of the time.

Ivan The Mouse
July 30th, 2011, 01:16 AM
Oh Good!

Lotus Saint
July 30th, 2011, 01:19 AM
You guys are so cheesy.

Alright, I KNOW you guys read Superior.

Do ANY of you read Maoyuu Maou Yuusha?

ItsaRandomUsername
July 30th, 2011, 01:22 AM
Neither to both of those.

Superior is in fact on the to-do-list, but how's that other one? It any good?

Lotus Saint
July 30th, 2011, 01:26 AM
I like the art.

I like how it's basically Dragon Quest + Economics.

I like how the heroine ISN'T A TSUNDERE.

Ivan The Mouse
July 30th, 2011, 01:33 AM
I like how it's basically Dragon Quest + Economics.


Dragon Quest + Economics.


Economics.

...I'll be reading this after I finish this fanfiction of mine.

Lotus Saint
July 30th, 2011, 01:34 AM
If you liked Spice and Wold you'll like this.

Of course there are 3 different versions.
Only 1 is translated though.

Alulim
July 30th, 2011, 03:48 AM
I lifted something too heavy and pulled my elbow joint apart...I hate having this condition. I managed to reconnect it with little difficulty with assistance from my dad, but it is really sore now.

Now it is difficult to write.

Lotus Saint
July 30th, 2011, 04:22 AM
So many fragile people.

Alulim
July 30th, 2011, 04:40 AM
So many fragile people.Al is indeed fragile...unfortunately. But I get right back up~

MZeroX
July 30th, 2011, 04:41 AM
Al is indeed fragile...unfortunately. But I get right back up~
the smaller the tank, the easier to refill to max?

anamesis
July 30th, 2011, 04:43 AM
Stupid amazon, why do I bother to preorder stuff from you if you just lose it!


RRRRRRRRRGH >wont get Catherine until amazon finds a damn copy because they are retarded.

MZeroX
July 30th, 2011, 04:45 AM
=_=;
no preorder bonuses for you.

and fuck you internet. only right when i'm about to go to sleep, do you load fine. fuck. this. shit. i've been trying to access internet all day and nothing, end up playing tetris for 5 hours from boredom, and now it works. FUCK.

Alulim
July 30th, 2011, 04:47 AM
the smaller the tank, the easier to refill to max?Wise man.

anamesis
July 30th, 2011, 04:49 AM
I should have just preordered it from EB or something, since I probably would have been able to pick it up by now...=_=

KENTA
July 30th, 2011, 07:26 AM
WEEKEND! WOOOO!

lilithsama
July 30th, 2011, 07:31 AM
i played a video of dog barking and puppy started freaking out

he's been looking all over for where it is

i feel kind of bad

but i laughed so hard i was crying
alot

Lotus Saint
July 30th, 2011, 04:08 PM
You are bad and you should feel bad.

MasterSeth
July 30th, 2011, 06:31 PM
I "finished" (beat the elite4/N/etc) pokemon black last night.Oh god, why is everything to the east so strong. Everyone is kicking my ass.

You beat the story? BATTLE TIME! :D

Alulim
July 30th, 2011, 06:33 PM
Al beat story long time ago~

MasterSeth
July 30th, 2011, 06:45 PM
Al beat story long time ago~

This is true, FRIEND CODE NAO!

MZeroX
July 30th, 2011, 06:45 PM
Zero beat the story, then started a new game because DIDN'T STAT GRIND HARD ENOUGH. And hasn't had the motivation to play past the second gym. >_>;

MasterSeth
July 30th, 2011, 06:47 PM
I don't go too deep when it comes to my pokemon. At most I look for one with a good nature and that's it. None of that crazy ev and iv stuff, that goes right over my head :/

MZeroX
July 30th, 2011, 06:52 PM
"good nature", "doesn't deal with iv stuff". ummm. you're missing the point.
natures have everything to do with iv stuff. good nature +/-10% of a stat; good characteristic speaks of which stat has the highest iv. nature and characteristics are treated as two parts of a whole, so ignoring one in favor of another is definitely not getting you a "good nature". you can easily get a "good nature" pokemon with shit iv in the stat you think is getting buffed.

MasterSeth
July 30th, 2011, 06:56 PM
"good nature", "doesn't deal with iv stuff". ummm. you're missing the point.

Oh, I should also add that I know next to nothing about the stuff I said in my last post. I only know these words from my brother and his competitively battling friends >>;

MZeroX
July 30th, 2011, 06:57 PM
i can give you a brief tutorial if you want. i'll make it as direct as possible. no where near the length of that post when adi asked about mahjong. also, see previous edit.

MasterSeth
July 30th, 2011, 07:02 PM
Tutorials are welcomed, because I barely understood what you said in your edit >>;

Alulim
July 30th, 2011, 07:05 PM
This is true, FRIEND CODE NAO!How do you find your pokemon game friend code again? All I know how to do is find my 3DS one...

Lotus Saint
July 30th, 2011, 07:09 PM
>pokemanz

......

MasterSeth
July 30th, 2011, 07:10 PM
How do you find your pokemon game friend code again? All I know how to do is find my 3DS one...

Palpad

Alulim
July 30th, 2011, 07:11 PM
PalpadAh, give me a moment...


>pokemanz

......What you have against pokemanz?!

Alulim
July 30th, 2011, 07:13 PM
Al's friend code is 5028 4648 3782

MasterSeth
July 30th, 2011, 07:18 PM
Cool~ Mine is 5243 3749 5385 and my guys name is Seth (original, I know)

I should probably let Koto know my friend code changed and I lost hers

Alulim
July 30th, 2011, 07:20 PM
Put yours in, my trainer name is Alulim btw, and now what...?

Lotus Saint
July 30th, 2011, 07:22 PM
I have nothing against pokemanz.

I just don't have the latest games or a 3DS.

MasterSeth
July 30th, 2011, 07:24 PM
Put yours in, my trainer name is Alulim btw, and now what...?

STEEL CAGE DEATH MATCH OF ULTIMATE DESTI--- I mean we have a friendly and gentlemanly battle for fun

Alulim
July 30th, 2011, 07:24 PM
Ah, makes sense.


The 3DS has no pokemon games on it yet though.


^And how would we do that...? I haven't played the game for months so I am a little rusty on the mechanics.

MasterSeth
July 30th, 2011, 07:29 PM
^And how would we do that...? I haven't played the game for months so I am a little rusty on the mechanics.

Global Terminal, they are in Pokemon Centers

Alulim
July 30th, 2011, 07:30 PM
Global Terminal, they are in Pokemon CentersI'll go there in just a sec, tell me when you are ready.

MasterSeth
July 30th, 2011, 07:31 PM
Wifi club I mean, whoops ^^;. but yeah I'm there now~

Alulim
July 30th, 2011, 07:32 PM
Will do~


Prepare to be trounced!

MasterSeth
July 30th, 2011, 07:33 PM
Yeah, I know, but I shall at least have fun losing~!

MasterSeth
July 30th, 2011, 07:34 PM
Damn wifi gave out! DX

Alulim
July 30th, 2011, 07:34 PM
...aww poo.

MZeroX
July 30th, 2011, 07:40 PM
Tutorials are welcomed, because I barely understood what you said in your edit >>;
pokemon stats are divided into 3 parts:
Base Stats
Individual Values
Effort Values

Base stats are the guidelines for all pokemon, you can't change these without cheating/hacking. For example, steel always are buff in the defense department, and among steel types, Steelix has the highest defense (among all pokemon, shuckle has the highest defense and special defense). These are nice guidelines on how to determine which pokemon you want to use, but beyond overview and planning, they serve no purpose.

Individual values are the base of competitive play. Using Base Stats as the guideline, pokemon have 0-31 different values that act, with 0 being the weakest, and 31 being the strongest. Basically, Say you have a charmander. According to its base stats, its special attack is slightly more powerful than its physical attack. but there are individual instances of charmanders with higher physical attack than special attack. So even though charmanders all have the same base stats, as individuals, certain ones are "more talented" in certain aspects than other. The base of good competitive play is either getting fucktastically lucky and catching an ideal IV and natured pokemon, or breeding chains in order to get pokemon with IVs in the 28-31 range. Mainly in the 31 range, but since the move Hidden Power is based on the combination of IVs, some less important stats can be lower in order to alter Hidden Power's type.

Effort Values are a point system that increase specific stats, and pokemon can only have a combined total of 510 EVs earned, and 255 EVs in a single stat. These are earned by beating other pokemon. Every pokemon has a EV yield value, the weakest being +1 in a single stat, and others +3 in single or combined stats. There might be certain ones with +4 overall, but I'm not too sure. That being said, every 4 EVs earned in a specific stat lead to that stat gaining an extra point upon the next level up, assuming it is within the base stat regulation of a pokemon. That is to say, Charmander's defense stat is pretty weak. But say you EV grind its defense. Even if you've grinded so hard the EV values say you should gain +5 in defense on top of the normal level up, you'll only gain +1 or +2. This is a base stat limiter. Anyways, EVs are the bread and butter of competitive play stat fixing. You can make specific EV distribution choices in order to barely let Gyarados survive a thunder or two in order to get some shit done to let the rest of your team do their thing. There are also a series of berries that reduce EVs in a pokemon. These are useful if you plan on using a pokemon that you used in story mode of the game, so didn't get to make the perfect EV spread. Or you just weren't paying attention and want to reduce it 0 EVs in all stats so you can use a calculator to see what IVs your story pokemon have.

Anyways, what started all of this was Nature and Characteristics.

Natures alter a pokemon's base stats. There are 5 neutral natures where the base stats aren't altered, and the rest of the natures are such that one certain stat gains +10% of its base stat while another base stat is 10% less. Let's take Mew, since it's stats are nice and even at 100 per stat. A Lonely Mew would thus have altered base stats 100 HP, 110 ATK, 90 DEF, 100 SAT, 100 SDF, 100 SPD. However, natures only alter the base stats; they have nothing to do with IVs. It is very possible to get a boosted base stat, but get screwed over with a low level IV in the boosted stat.

Gen 4 and 5 are kind enough to give you a clue about which IV is highest, through the characteristic information. This doesn't mean the IV is necessarily 28-31 range, it just means that it is the highest that pokemon has. You could easily have a shitty IV pokemon with its max stat being an IV of 17 or something. There are 5 characteristics per stat, and what IV they represent is rotated through those 5. The highest IV's corresponding characteristic is given to you, thus also telling you what potential IVs there are in that stat. Let's say you have an Abra that is "often lost in thought". This being it's highest IV, it has the potential of being 3, 8, 13, 18, 23, 28. It'd be really sad if it was a 3, but those are the possibilities. This provides you with a benchmark--if you want a 31 IV pokemon, if its defining characteristic is "often lost in thought", its highest IV is 28, so it's no good.

I previously mentioned breeding. Pokemon breeding is pretty interesting, though can get pretty tedious. Anyways, a hatchling's stats are 50% from the mother, 50% from the father. Using held items, it's possible to force 1 of these stats per parent on the child. Through thorough inbreeding, you can make a 28-31 in all IV pokemon. There are also certain pokemon moves not learnable by level up or tm/hms that pokemon can learn via breeding chains--egg groups allow pokemon of different species to breed, sometimes passing on their moves. Anyways, this exceeds the IV-EV discussion, so I'll stop here before I get too long winded.

MasterSeth
July 30th, 2011, 07:41 PM
Owww T~T

I am now reminded why I shouldn't rush into battle when I haven't played and lvled my guys in forever D:

Alulim
July 30th, 2011, 07:43 PM
Owww T~T

I am now reminded why I shouldn't rush into battle when I haven't played and lvled my guys in forever D:Ehehehehehe, maybe next time we can choose a mode that makes both our levels 50.

MasterSeth
July 30th, 2011, 07:45 PM
Ehehehehehe, maybe next time we can choose a mode that makes both our levels 50.

Sure~

Oh and thank you bunches Zero~! That will help a lot~!

MZeroX
July 30th, 2011, 07:45 PM
oh, btw, Tak-kun. You can use the level limiter option in Gen 5 to check your pokemon's IVs too. The higher the level, the less of a possible range. level 50 should be fine for most, but you can also use level 100 just to be sure. This is assuming you either know the EV values (you have to keep track manually), or they either have none or you reduced the EVs with berries. And you can check using the plethora of IV calculators out there. Pokemon is srs bzns. serebii's and vee-kun's are two of the more famous IV calculators.

MasterSeth
July 30th, 2011, 07:49 PM
Thanks again Zero~

Gaahhh! Hate my wifi! Stop cutting out! DX

MZeroX
July 30th, 2011, 07:54 PM
you know, with my internet being so shitty, I might as well get back to pokeymanz. So which side of the Emancipation Proclamation should I play?

Alulim
July 30th, 2011, 07:58 PM
Al won, again. Zoroark is the best~

MasterSeth
July 30th, 2011, 07:59 PM
I think I'll go train for a while, get some better moves for my team before engaging in another STEEL CAGE DEATH MATCH OF ULTIMATE DESTI--- Friendly exchange of blows


Al won, again. Zoroark is the best~

Indeed. It reminds me I need to go train mine so she'll get better. Oh and, how did you find a shiny Axew!? Or where is a better question

Alulim
July 30th, 2011, 08:01 PM
I'll bring my secondary team for that occasion then~

MZeroX
July 30th, 2011, 08:01 PM
Tak-kun, use a Machamp! Or at Hitmonlee! Or if he's spamming Aerial Ace and you're not sure if you can tank it, use a Skarmory! Unless he's using flamethrower! Well, Skarmory should be able to at least tank one of those.

Alulim
July 30th, 2011, 08:04 PM
Zoroark with flamethrower Al has.


Also a Lilligant with Quiver Dance~


Oh and, how did you find a shiny Axew!? Or where is a better questionI found it in the usual Axew place (the Cobalion's cave thingy), trust me...it surprised the hell out of me.

MZeroX
July 30th, 2011, 08:06 PM
THEN MACHAMP OR HITMONLEE WITH REVENGE.


Oh and, how did you find a shiny Axew!? Or where is a better question
Shiny is pure randomly. If you really want a shiny in-game event pokemon. reset until it happens.

Alulim
July 30th, 2011, 08:07 PM
THEN MACHAMP OR HITMONLEE WITH REVENGE.You do forget that it isn't that easy, with Zoroark's ability it could be any member of my team.


Or not included at all.

MasterSeth
July 30th, 2011, 08:09 PM
I found it in the usual Axew place (the Cobalion's cave thingy), trust me...it surprised the hell out of me.

I have a shiny male Tranquill. that's the only shiny I've found so far

MZeroX
July 30th, 2011, 08:09 PM
IT'LL STILL HAVE OTHER MOVES. AND NO-GUARD MACHAMP WITH CHOICE BAND REVENGE AND 0 SPEED IV IS LULZY SHIT FOREVER AND EVER. OR NO-GUARD MACHAMP WITH FOCUS PUNCH/CROSS CHOP. so lulz.

Ruca_Milda
July 30th, 2011, 08:09 PM
I've never found a shiny Pokemon ever

;_;

Alulim
July 30th, 2011, 08:11 PM
I've never found a shiny Pokemon ever

;_;I have a few.


Lets see...Haxorus, Fearow, Latias, Mightyena, and the event Raikou and Entei.


My little brother has a shiny Reuniclus.

MZeroX
July 30th, 2011, 08:12 PM
play event pokemon, man. you've got less than a 1/8000 chance, but it's there. reset until you get it if you really want one.

MasterSeth
July 30th, 2011, 08:13 PM
Hey Al, which version do you happen to have?

Alulim
July 30th, 2011, 08:13 PM
Hey Al, which version do you happen to have?White.


And every generation previous.

MasterSeth
July 30th, 2011, 08:16 PM
Damn, I need to find someone with Black who has Tornadus. Landorus is the only non-event legendary I need left to catch

Alulim
July 30th, 2011, 08:18 PM
Dman, I need to find someone with Black who has Tornadus. Landorus is the only non-event legendary I need left to catchEhehehehe, thankfully Al's little brother has Black so Al has Landorus!


We always conspire like this ever since he was old enough to play Gold version, before that I had both Red and Blue.

MZeroX
July 30th, 2011, 08:18 PM
I have both versions, though I forgot which one I'm maining and which I'm using as my pokedex/breeding whore. Should I play black for you, takkun?

MasterSeth
July 30th, 2011, 08:20 PM
Ehehehehe, thankfully Al's little brother has Black so Al has Landorus!

My brother restarted his Black before catching Tornadus ><

Care to lend me yours for a few min so I can get Landorus?

Alulim
July 30th, 2011, 08:24 PM
My brother restarted his Black before catching Tornadus ><

Care to lend me yours for a few min so I can get Landorus?He is currently involved with being a rebellious teenager at the moment I am afraid...so he might not.

MasterSeth
July 30th, 2011, 08:32 PM
I see, that's fine, I'll just punch my bro until he gets Tornadus

Alulim
July 30th, 2011, 08:34 PM
I never went through that rebellious stage, it was kinda interrupted by my joints falling apart.:neco_arc: (figuratively)

MZeroX
July 30th, 2011, 08:49 PM
holy shit, LWB has had a small loli rush in the 3 days? so getting on that.

Alulim
July 30th, 2011, 08:55 PM
...huh? What, whar?

MZeroX
July 30th, 2011, 09:07 PM
LWB. scanslation group. they don't really specialize in anything, though they tend to scanslate the rarer/harder stuff. they got booted off of google during the whole LOLI IS IRL PEDO fiasco a few years ago.

Ivan The Mouse
July 30th, 2011, 11:45 PM
LWB. scanslation group. they don't really specialize in anything, though they tend to scanslate the rarer/harder stuff. they got booted off of google during the whole LOLI IS IRL PEDO fiasco a few years ago.


LOLI IS IRL PEDO

[Punches walls and smashes random objects.]

MZeroX
July 30th, 2011, 11:48 PM
inorite? shit was pretty scary at that point in time. i knew in my heart it wasn't, but activist groups blowing shit out of proportion, man. scary shit.

Ivan The Mouse
July 30th, 2011, 11:55 PM
And I was convinced pretty much that time that people ain't needing a religion or politic just for them to be so stupid enough.

MZeroX
July 30th, 2011, 11:58 PM
...yeah. i'm pretty sure what you mean is spot on, but my translation system is bugging out on me. time to continue to listen to bad anime metal.

Ivan The Mouse
July 31st, 2011, 12:07 AM
Screw you, "bad" and "anime metal" doesn't go together.

MZeroX
July 31st, 2011, 12:10 AM
lol, i know. but i'm a 90s child, so bad as in good. well, born in 88, but yeah, in terms of awareness, a 90s child.

Kotonoha
July 31st, 2011, 01:13 AM
Damn, I need to find someone with Black who has Tornadus. Landorus is the only non-event legendary I need left to catch

I have him down to like 1hp at least :|

TypeWannabe
July 31st, 2011, 01:15 AM
I think they just stopped trying to come up with names now.

Elyrin
July 31st, 2011, 01:17 AM
I think they just stopped trying to come up with names now.

I present to you, Gen I's most original names evar.

Grimer
Koffing
Ekans
Mankey

Kotonoha
July 31st, 2011, 01:37 AM
I present to you, Gen I's most original names evar.

Grimer
Koffing
Ekans
Mankey

Don't forget Mr Mime.

Ivan The Mouse
July 31st, 2011, 01:44 AM
And the Magnet Pokemon.

Ruca_Milda
July 31st, 2011, 02:13 AM
Elyrin...that avatar...

*nosebleed*

Never change. *thumbs up*

Elyrin
July 31st, 2011, 02:16 AM
Elyrin...that avatar...

*nosebleed*

Never change. *thumbs up*

Fine :|

Do your best not to die from blood loss.

Ivan The Mouse
July 31st, 2011, 03:11 AM
I want to rape Hideyoshi right now.

Alulim
July 31st, 2011, 03:14 AM
...why is it that I can write nightmare fuel easier and better than fluffiness?





The lemon I was writing turned into a cannibalistic TATARI orgy of death...

Ivan The Mouse
July 31st, 2011, 03:25 AM
That's okay, deer-chan. Let it out, let it all out.

Alulim
July 31st, 2011, 03:32 AM
My mind does not want me to write lemons it seems.

Ivan The Mouse
July 31st, 2011, 03:54 AM
Maybe.

anamesis
July 31st, 2011, 04:38 AM
I want a Japanese ditto with good IV's so I can combine glorious inbreeding with shiny breeding in one brilliant abomination sin against god.

Alulim
July 31st, 2011, 04:46 AM
Sounds like fun~

anamesis
July 31st, 2011, 04:47 AM
Even though I say that, I haven't really ever bothered to breed chain :/

Alulim
July 31st, 2011, 04:50 AM
I generally don't either, the most complicated breeding thing I ever did was get my Hydreidon to have Dark Pulse.

anamesis
July 31st, 2011, 04:52 AM
I just remember making a team of typhlosion in gold...I even leveled them all to 100 >>;;

MZeroX
July 31st, 2011, 04:56 AM
=___=; really, that says it all. i shouldn't need to say anymore.

anamesis
July 31st, 2011, 05:01 AM
teehee

Alulim
July 31st, 2011, 05:02 AM
...meep.

anamesis
July 31st, 2011, 05:05 AM
remake of carrie is playing on TV, I like the old one better :/

MZeroX
July 31st, 2011, 05:07 AM
man, if they can keep up the dark atmosphere while still keeping the characters aligned enough with the old series that the nostalgia glasses can stay on (and i'm quick to take them off if i can), then i might enjoy thundercats 2011 rather than just watch it for the hell of it.

anamesis
July 31st, 2011, 05:11 AM
Having never seen the original, I doubt I will watch this incarnation of it :/

MZeroX
July 31st, 2011, 05:14 AM
from the first two episodes, you can at least give them a spin, since the VAing isn't shabby at all. In fact, it seemed pretty good. Just remember, the main character is a lion with an extendable sword that farts lightning, shoots BEAMUS, gives future visions, and flies and shit. The important parts of course are his flying retractable sword that farts lightning.

anamesis
July 31st, 2011, 05:23 AM
...uh yeah...okay then.

Optimus
July 31st, 2011, 07:27 AM
Hey anamesis, if you want to breed shiny Pokemon you should try absuing the RNG... Just saying (A tad too late, rofl)

Good news! Opti is leaving for a month or so to the beach, so see ya next time...

Ivan The Mouse
July 31st, 2011, 09:13 AM
Hey /b/, I have a very serious problem. I'm fucking crying because of how stupid I am.
Okay, so my girlfriend was supposed to come over to my house today because I was going to go take her to a movie. She lives about 20 minutes away, and the movie we were supposed to see started at 4:15, which was in about 40 minutes. I figured "cool, I'll just play Pokemon while I wait".
So I'm playing Pokemon, and having a pretty damn good time. Anyway, she finally does show up, except she's crying as she walks into my room. Instead of doing the right thing by comforting her, I half-focus on my game and her. She starts telling me her cat died, and just as she was getting into it, I get into a random encounter in my game.
A shiny pidgey. Holy shit. (For those of you who don't know/care, shiny Pokemon have less than a 1/1,000 chance of appearing; 1/8192 to be exact.). I stare into my screen in amazement, yelling "holy shit, YES", interrupting her mid-story. She sobs more, and she starts to yell "You don't even fucking care! YOU JUST WANT TO PLAY YOUR FUCKING GAME!" I'm still looking at my screen, still focusing on catching my shiny Pidgey, when she walks over, and tosses the game against the wall. I run over and pick up my DS hoping that nothing has changed on screen, and quickly noticed that she broke it. My system and my shiny Pidgey, gone forever.
I start screaming every obscenity I know, and started flailing my arms around. I didn't know she was behind me, and apparently I backhanded her in the face while I was being a dumbass and swinging my fists around. She yells out "FUCK YOU", and runs out of my house in tears.
What have I done? I've fucked up so badly, and I need to know how to approach her. I don't want a game of Pokemon to be responsible for ruining my best relationship ever. Help me, /b/.

Sherrinford
July 31st, 2011, 09:48 AM
Whoa. Really? It's like... not a single thing went right.

I don't know, I'm not an expert of this situations (luckily) but I think in these cases it's best to be honest. It's not like you didn't pay attention because you didn't care about her, but because you were distracted, right? It shouldn't happen, but it did. Bad luck.
Apologize as soon as possible. If even for her this is at least a good relationship, it wouldn't be in her interest to not let go this accident.

Ivan The Mouse
July 31st, 2011, 09:53 AM
Whoa. Really? It's like... not a single thing went right.

I don't know, I'm not an expert of this situations (luckily) but I think in these cases it's best to be honest. It's not like you didn't pay attention because you didn't care about her, but because you were distracted, right? It shouldn't happen, but it did. Bad luck.
Apologize as soon as possible. If even for her this is at least a good relationship, it wouldn't be in her interest to not let go this accident.

Comrade, that's a copypasta.

Kotonoha
July 31st, 2011, 09:54 AM
Oldest pasta in the book.

Sherrinford
July 31st, 2011, 10:06 AM
You're right, on second thought, backhand her in the other cheek.

Tobias
July 31st, 2011, 10:09 AM
its also kind of a lame one. are we supposed to pity the guy or feel reassured that with the obvious oncoming break up the world order has been restored and such a hopeless loser is now without the girlfriend he should never have had in the first place?

TypeWannabe
July 31st, 2011, 10:26 AM
You know the only thing colder than the eggs I'm currently eating is...a broken heart. MIND BLOWN. That sound you just heard was your mind...BLOWN. Unless you actually did hear a sound, in which case that probably wasn't your mind being blown. You should go check it out.

Ivan The Mouse
July 31st, 2011, 11:46 AM
You're right, on second thought, backhand her in the other cheek.

Best advice ever.


its also kind of a lame one. are we supposed to pity the guy or feel reassured that with the obvious oncoming break up the world order has been restored and such a hopeless loser is now without the girlfriend he should never have had in the first place?

We are supposed to laugh, man.

lilithsama
July 31st, 2011, 12:05 PM
............is it bad i'm way more on the guy's side than the girlfriend's?

Kotonoha
July 31st, 2011, 12:07 PM
Probably.

Now if it were something less lame than a Pidgey, then I might sympathize.

Ruca_Milda
July 31st, 2011, 12:10 PM
It was her cat, her fucking cat.

I'm on the girls' side. )':

lilithsama
July 31st, 2011, 12:13 PM
i sympathize with just the pidgey, shiny is shiny
plus he didn't hit her on purpose and she was being a bitch anyways, she had it coming
you don't just break someone's ds because they're not fully attentive to your f*cking whining over a dead cat
some compensation is required, like aforementioned backhand to the face
or a punch to the tits

....i would so make an awesome boyfriend '=_=

TypeWannabe
July 31st, 2011, 12:16 PM
Punch to the tits sounds awesome.

Ivan The Mouse
July 31st, 2011, 12:17 PM
Punch to the tits sounds awesome.

But not as awesome as a punch to the groin.

lilithsama
July 31st, 2011, 12:19 PM
taco punch is not as effective as tit punch
that hurts like shiz
specially around *ahem*that time of the month

TypeWannabe
July 31st, 2011, 03:52 PM
It's really weird, but somehow that NGE quote from Misato actually fits perfectly. You know the one, about the porcupines.

lilithsama
July 31st, 2011, 04:04 PM
you mean the hedgehog's dilemma?

Kotonoha
July 31st, 2011, 04:20 PM
>Old analogy from philosophers
>Remembered as "that NGE quote"
Heh

TypeWannabe
July 31st, 2011, 04:21 PM
Damn it Koto, stop being me.

Marth
July 31st, 2011, 04:25 PM
Stupid Yoyo.
Stupid Bahamut Lagoon.

=/

MZeroX
July 31st, 2011, 05:49 PM
need to get my ambient electro rock desires out of my system before lol mahjong training camp.

Froggie
July 31st, 2011, 06:48 PM
God damn it, Japan. Why is there always so much porn and so little art of the characters I want to make an avatar out of?

Alulim
July 31st, 2011, 06:53 PM
Do what I did with mine, simply cut the porn out.

Froggie
July 31st, 2011, 06:55 PM
I will know it's there!

Alulim
July 31st, 2011, 07:15 PM
I will know it's there!I simply force myself to forget that fact.

Ruca_Milda
July 31st, 2011, 07:57 PM
*Finished catching up to Black Adventures*

Dammit when will the next part come out?!

*Just noticed I'm religiously waiting for updates about a comic involving pokemons and crossdressers*

Uh...

Elyrin
July 31st, 2011, 08:00 PM
*Finished catching up to Black Adventures*

Dammit when will the next part come out?!

*Just noticed I'm religiously waiting for updates about a comic involving pokemons and crossdressers*

Uh...

Doesn't sound unusual at all.

Ruca_Milda
July 31st, 2011, 08:19 PM
What, traps are appealing.

Ivan The Mouse
July 31st, 2011, 10:01 PM
So shall it be.

MZeroX
July 31st, 2011, 10:13 PM
man, so fucking hype. super burritos are 20 cents cheaper on sundays. my arteries, they gonna burst.

Lotus Saint
July 31st, 2011, 10:32 PM
Your ass is also gonna expand.

MZeroX
August 1st, 2011, 01:19 AM
YES.
http://www.whitepeopleproblems.com/

Five_X
August 1st, 2011, 03:29 AM
^ Awwww yeeeeeah!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2p5svFJ9cQ

anamesis
August 1st, 2011, 04:35 AM
I want to sleep, but I still feel so awake after working.


rrrghsdfsf

Froggie
August 1st, 2011, 07:46 AM
I dun wanna go to work today.

My phone is acting up and the browser won't connect at all.

I seriously dun wanna go to work today ;__;

anamesis
August 1st, 2011, 08:04 AM
I am still annoyed with amazon.ca


stupid canada, everything takes longer to get here.

Ivan The Mouse
August 1st, 2011, 10:00 AM
Tomorrow is Tuesday.

I hate Tuesdays.

On the brightside, I love Wednesdays.

Five_X
August 1st, 2011, 01:34 PM
Tuesday is coming, did you bring your coat?

Gaia
August 1st, 2011, 04:18 PM
Look this cutie, ain't it sweet! <3

http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af85/Gaia_Finn/sekalaiset/Kuva0479-1.jpg

Tobias
August 1st, 2011, 04:20 PM
Awwwwwww....kitty~

Gaia
August 1st, 2011, 04:34 PM
There were many kitties, I'll try to find more decent pictures later. :3

Five_X
August 1st, 2011, 04:44 PM
http://sanshee.com/shirts/Hen-Tie

Clever t-shirt is clever.

Lotus Saint
August 1st, 2011, 04:47 PM
I love kitties.

Theocrass
August 1st, 2011, 04:56 PM
Speaking of, why is my kitty insisting on sleeping on the cold tile in the middle of the kitchen.

Tobias
August 1st, 2011, 04:59 PM
Because it thinks it's to hot?

Theocrass
August 1st, 2011, 05:00 PM
... I hadn't thought of that.

But I just figured out she was waiting for someone to open the back door.

RacingeR
August 1st, 2011, 05:09 PM
Oh fuck.

One of the buildings our new King was building near my home went down. There is a crowd of policemen and even the TV is there.

My house is surrounded by two of those fucking towers that goddamn prick is building.

I am kind of fucked.

Neir
August 1st, 2011, 05:57 PM
... I hadn't thought of that.But I just figured out she was waiting for someone to open the back door.It's the heat. Make sure you leave plenty of water out, and you can toss an ice cube or two in with it.

Theocrass
August 1st, 2011, 06:04 PM
It's the heat. Make sure you leave plenty of water out, and you can toss an ice cube or two in with it.

Well, she's all huffy right now 'cuz I covered her in flea killer.

Gaia
August 1st, 2011, 06:07 PM
@RacingeR: Souds not great... :( But is your house still intact and you're ok?

-------------

More pic-spam:

I got a cool wristband. Arr!
http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af85/Gaia_Finn/sekalaiset/Kuva0495-1.jpg

Kitty-mum! Though we thought first she was one of the kittens, she was so small.
http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af85/Gaia_Finn/sekalaiset/Kuva0472-1.jpg

A big fish in a big fish chest! I tried it too, but I was a bit too big, even though I'm not a very large person.
http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af85/Gaia_Finn/sekalaiset/Kuva0481-1-1.jpg

Theo has a portrait in Naantali!
http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af85/Gaia_Finn/sekalaiset/Kuva0498-1.jpg

More spamming maybe tomorrow, now I really need to go to bed.

Note to self: Suntan lotion helps more if you remember to use it! (Especially if you have very light skin type.) :p

Neir
August 1st, 2011, 06:10 PM
Well, she's all huffy right now 'cuz I covered her in flea killer. Still? Have you tried chin scratching? And you may want to use Frontline for flea and tick prevention.

Theocrass
August 1st, 2011, 06:10 PM
Portrait~

SeiKeo
August 1st, 2011, 06:11 PM
Kitty~

Theocrass
August 1st, 2011, 06:13 PM
Still? Have you tried chin scratching? And you may want to use Frontline for flea and tick prevention.
Chin scratching?

The thing is, this spray is all natural and kills on contact. I've seen it work. But I think there's some sort of flea breeding ground in our backyard, 'cuz of all the critters that pass through there.

I mean it's REALLY popular with the critters, 'cuz our orange tree drops fresh oranges year round and we just leave the dropped ones there.

I've heard good things about Frontline, so I may try that.

Neir
August 1st, 2011, 06:33 PM
Frontline is quite effective. There are other brands, but I have used frontline on my dogs for a long time, so I can vouch for it. It's not cheap, but it's one application a month. You can also check out frontline plus. 1800petmeds isn't a bad site.

A bunch of cats i've met enjoyed being scratched under the chin is all.

Theocrass
August 1st, 2011, 06:36 PM
Oh. Yeah, she likes that.

Neir
August 1st, 2011, 06:43 PM
Yesssss