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Snow
January 3rd, 2016, 03:38 PM
I feel like RPGs always avoid the cool settings which games like the new AC then get to butcher.
just Beamu
January 3rd, 2016, 03:39 PM
What kinds of cool settings do you have in mind?
Five_X
January 3rd, 2016, 03:39 PM
Jade Empire.
That's why I put the 'almost' in there. :3
Snow
January 3rd, 2016, 03:42 PM
What kinds of cool settings do you have in mind?
Medieval Middle East, 16th century Istanbul, that kinda thing.
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Truth be told I liked AC2 and two sequels but still a shame an RPG never got to dabble in that.
Polly
January 3rd, 2016, 03:42 PM
Jesus fucking Christ why am I so tired and groggy all the fucking time?!?
Can't write papers I'm long overdue, can't play videogames I really wanted to play these holidays, can't do fucking shit.
Snow
January 3rd, 2016, 03:43 PM
I mean like a historical rpg. Is that even a thing?
Skull
January 3rd, 2016, 03:46 PM
I stopped playing Assassins Creed after the first one.
Polly
January 3rd, 2016, 03:46 PM
I mean like a historical rpg. Is that even a thing?
There's always Assassin's Creed :p
Kirby
January 3rd, 2016, 03:48 PM
I've only played 2. Admittedly I found it fun at the time, but I never finished it
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 03:49 PM
I mean like a historical rpg. Is that even a thing?
Spiderweb did one once where you're a Roman investigation team sent north into Pict territory.
GhostDIGIT
January 3rd, 2016, 03:49 PM
That sounds awesome.
SeiKeo
January 3rd, 2016, 03:50 PM
Wow, a new Assassin's Creed game, with a female protagonist, in China!
wait is a mobile game
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 03:52 PM
It's a near idea but I didn't mess with it much. Spiderweb is a dev I admire but they're also bare fucking bones and always have been, the only game of theirs I really got into was Avadon 1.
GhostDIGIT
January 3rd, 2016, 03:53 PM
Wow, a new Assassin's Creed game, with a female protagonist, in China!
wait is a mobile game
They just love getting a good idea and then horribly executing them don't they?
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 03:53 PM
I should really get into Avadon 2 at least, I do own it.
Five_X
January 3rd, 2016, 03:53 PM
Wow, a new Assassin's Creed game, with a female protagonist, in China!
wait is a mobile game
That seems to be the usual path that Ubisoft takes with female protagonists: put games with them on handheld or mobile.
Snow
January 3rd, 2016, 03:53 PM
The British Raj would be a good setting for an AC game but ehhhh
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 03:56 PM
The British Raj would be a good setting for an AC game but ehhhh
There's no such thing as a good AC setting because the moment you start making AC you've ruined that setting.
Skull
January 3rd, 2016, 03:57 PM
Ubisoft, just give me ninjas already.
I3uster
January 3rd, 2016, 03:58 PM
I remember when people were still stoked for new AC settings.
it was the period where they set like 10 games in italy
Snow
January 3rd, 2016, 03:58 PM
I just want to climb buildings okay.
Strife ❤️
January 3rd, 2016, 03:59 PM
Didn't the modern plot amount to absolutely nothing and then they threw it away but carried on with it anyway in a completely pointless form?
Snow
January 3rd, 2016, 03:59 PM
I remember when people were still stoked for new AC settings.
it was the period where they set like 10 games in italy
and 500 in America.
SeiKeo
January 3rd, 2016, 03:59 PM
There's no such thing as a good AC setting because the moment you start making AC you've ruined that setting.
Assassin's Creed is insanely campy, and cool.
Polly
January 3rd, 2016, 04:00 PM
I just want to climb buildings okay.
oh you want to climb on top of buildings alright
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 04:03 PM
Didn't the modern plot amount to absolutely nothing and then they threw it away but carried on with it anyway in a completely pointless form?
They have hinted at its return in Syndicate, Juno makes an appearance.
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But yes the modern day stuff, which was AC1's big promise, turned out to be a bunch of garbage.
Snow
January 3rd, 2016, 04:03 PM
They have hinted at its return in Syndicate, Juno makes an appearance.
Desmond plot is SSSSHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTT
GhostDIGIT
January 3rd, 2016, 04:03 PM
Didn't the modern plot amount to absolutely nothing and then they threw it away but carried on with it anyway in a completely pointless form?
Yeah, the protagonist is now a faceless guy with absolutely no personality. And the plot is shit.
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 04:04 PM
Desmond plot is SSSSHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTT
Yes?
I3uster
January 3rd, 2016, 04:04 PM
Assassin's Creed is insanely campy, and cool.
Realtalk I think the gameplay of these is perfectly fine and fun in a lot of cases but why doesn't any part but 1 have any sort of difficulty.
I'm usually not one of the MUH DIFFICULTY crowd but there's no point to going for the "you are all winners" school of difficulty in a stealth game. The failure state is essential for these. Even 0 detection runs aren't really a matter of skill but of choice.
Stealth games are fun but AC punishes you so little for breaking stealth beyond 1 (and even there the punishment consists of having to play the rythm game they called a combat system back then) that there's no real point to even do it.
Snow
January 3rd, 2016, 04:05 PM
ubisoft still refuses to acknowledge that while the animus framing device is an okay gimmick it's hardly something you can build a franchise on
Strife ❤️
January 3rd, 2016, 04:05 PM
They should have lead it to a futuristic game where you were Desmond as a high tech assassin but they fucked it.
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 04:06 PM
AC isn't really a stealth game. Like 2 was the last one you could argue was.
black1blade
January 3rd, 2016, 04:06 PM
AC seems pretty shit to me. I don't generally like non-RPG games with perk trees tho, the more you play the game the more perks you get and the easier the game gets. Games should get harder as they go along imo.
GhostDIGIT
January 3rd, 2016, 04:06 PM
We instead got possible second coming of Jesus refusing to be Jesus.
SeiKeo
January 3rd, 2016, 04:06 PM
Realtalk I think the gameplay of these is perfectly fine and fun in a lot of cases but why doesn't any part but 1 have any sort of difficulty.
I'm usually not one of the MUH DIFFICULTY crowd but there's no point to going for the "you are all winners" school of difficulty in a stealth game. The failure state is essential for these. Even 0 detection runs aren't really a matter of skill but of choice.
Stealth games are fun but AC punishes you so little for breaking stealth beyond 1 (and even there the punishment consists of having to play the rythm game they called a combat system back then) that there's no real point to even do it.
you have misidentified assassin's creed as a stealth game
I3uster
January 3rd, 2016, 04:06 PM
Honestly if they went for distinct settings and like a 3 part trilogy I think the framing device would've worked fine with maybe an actual gameplay sequence in the real world for the last one.
the problem is that it simultaneously had to act as holding pattern sequel hook bullshit so it just went full lost
never go full lost
SeiKeo
January 3rd, 2016, 04:07 PM
ubisoft still refuses to acknowledge that while the animus framing device is an okay gimmick it's hardly something you can build a franchise on
maybe if we stuck another chinese girl in it instead of some syrian bartender
I3uster
January 3rd, 2016, 04:07 PM
you have misidentified assassin's creed as a stealth game
well yes now its a boat simulator and also arkham city
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 04:07 PM
They should have lead it to a futuristic game where you were Desmond as a high tech assassin but they fucked it.
Yeah basically. Instead we got Animus settings forever, fucking EZIO, the insane conspiracy theory/Ancient Aliens bullshit...
Kelnish
January 3rd, 2016, 04:08 PM
Rainbow six
Snow
January 3rd, 2016, 04:09 PM
I always try to do full stealth runs cause it's fun and all but loads of people are just like 'I'm playing as a member of this very secretive organization and any fuckup I make could endanger the whole organization COOL let's jump into the Vatican and kill EVERYONE'
Strife ❤️
January 3rd, 2016, 04:09 PM
the insane conspiracy theory/Ancient Aliens bullshit...
That's kind of ok I guess?
They should have just either actually used the future parts or entirely cut them out, as they are they are just a complete waste of time.
SeiKeo
January 3rd, 2016, 04:09 PM
Yeah basically. Instead we got Animus settings forever, fucking EZIO, the insane conspiracy theory/Ancient Aliens bullshit...
the insane conspiracy shit owns you unexcitable man
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 04:09 PM
AC and Far Cry 3 also caused the horrific birth of The Ubisoft Sandbox game, which has spread out and infected other companies, like WB.
I3uster
January 3rd, 2016, 04:09 PM
Rainbow six
look kid im not fond of ur new fangled instant death tactical shooty
back in my day people could take two rocket launchers to the face and walk it off
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 04:10 PM
the insane conspiracy shit owns you unexcitable man
The only thing that "owns" about AC now is Evie.
SeiKeo
January 3rd, 2016, 04:11 PM
wowowowowow i want a super serious game about an ancient order of assassins fighting knights templar throughout the ages for the fate of the human race using machines that let you time travel in your own mind, why am I not being stealthy?????
Kelnish
January 3rd, 2016, 04:11 PM
look kid im not fond of ur new fangled instant death tactical shooty
back in my day people could take two rocket launchers to the face and walk it off
I was talking about the book you fucking video game playing nerd.
I3uster
January 3rd, 2016, 04:11 PM
AC and Far Cry 3 also caused the horrific birth of The Ubisoft Sandbox game, which has spread out and infected other companies, like WB.
FC3 was a good, self-contained game with a clear vision though so I'm thankful for that existing at least.
ubisoft doesnt need precedence cases to run games into the ground
black1blade
January 3rd, 2016, 04:12 PM
Sandboxes seem pretty easy to do wrong.
SeiKeo
January 3rd, 2016, 04:12 PM
The only thing that "owns" about AC now is Evie.
She is insanely cool yes
Kelnish
January 3rd, 2016, 04:12 PM
FC3 was a good, self-contained game with a clear vision though so I'm thankful for that existing at least.
ubisoft doesnt need precedence cases to run games into the ground
Farcry 4 had a tight 15 minute narrative and several multi hour bad ends. I liked it.
SeiKeo
January 3rd, 2016, 04:12 PM
I was talking about the book you fucking video game playing nerd.
This is another example of something that is cool because it's batshit insane.
black1blade
January 3rd, 2016, 04:13 PM
Fry cry 3 was fun but I didn't feel any need to actually finish it.
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 04:13 PM
FC3 was a good, self-contained game with a clear vision though so I'm thankful for that existing at least.
ubisoft doesnt need precedence cases to run games into the ground
Like if it were just FC and AC I wouldn't care that much since I completely wrote off the latter ages ago and both BD and 4 are better than 3 in every way but it seems like all of AAA gaming is currently collapsing into a sandbox singularity
I3uster
January 3rd, 2016, 04:14 PM
Farcry 4 had a tight 15 minute narrative and several multi hour bad ends. I liked it.
FC4 flails a bit with the metacommentary though.
FC3 on the other hand works a lot better.
I think it's all in the protagonist.
Snow
January 3rd, 2016, 04:14 PM
wowowowowow i want a super serious game about an ancient order of assassins fighting knights templar throughout the ages for the fate of the human race using machines that let you time travel in your own mind, why am I not being stealthy?????
stealthing is kuuuru desu, that's why
Kelnish
January 3rd, 2016, 04:14 PM
Fry cry 3 was fun but I didn't feel any need to actually finish it.
Well once you killed CRAZY GUY ON COVER the game got less good.
black1blade
January 3rd, 2016, 04:14 PM
First half of human revolution was fun. Then you realised that you don't really have to stealth any more because you've gotten so powerful and the enemies haven't really improved at all.
SeiKeo
January 3rd, 2016, 04:14 PM
Like if it were just FC and AC I wouldn't care that much since I completely wrote off the latter ages ago and both BD and 4 are better than 3 in every way but it seems like all of AAA gaming is currently collapsing into a sandbox singularity
but it's okay when the witcher does it :^)
GhostDIGIT
January 3rd, 2016, 04:15 PM
FC4 flails a bit with the metacommentary though.
FC3 on the other hand works a lot better.
I think it's all in the protagonist.
Can't help but love a rich white guy getting in touch with his dark side.
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 04:15 PM
but it's okay when the witcher does it :^)
I actually didn't say it was!
Snow
January 3rd, 2016, 04:15 PM
Hinterlands are Good Sandbox and whoever told me to leave them is a poop
black1blade
January 3rd, 2016, 04:16 PM
What games would you say fall into the "AA" category?
SeiKeo
January 3rd, 2016, 04:16 PM
Hinterlands are Good Sandbox and whoever told me to leave them is a poop
it's not even the best sandbox zone...
I3uster
January 3rd, 2016, 04:16 PM
Well once you killed CRAZY GUY ON COVER the game got less good.
Doesn't it still have the torture scene and the German merc
Like yes Vaas is a reason this game is good but it's not the only reason or FC4 would be better than FC3, which it is only in the eyes of madmen as you can see by the fact that Rodyle holds this opinion.
black1blade
January 3rd, 2016, 04:16 PM
Are open world and sandbox the same thing?
Kirby
January 3rd, 2016, 04:16 PM
Does shepherd's pie have to be made with minced meat, or can it be made with larger chunks
Snow
January 3rd, 2016, 04:17 PM
it's not even the best sandbox zone...
it had actual stuff in it
black1blade
January 3rd, 2016, 04:17 PM
I've lost all my D&D prep so I feel sad.
Kelnish
January 3rd, 2016, 04:17 PM
Doesn't it still have the torture scene and the German merc
Like yes Vaas is a reason this game is good but it's not the only reason or FC4 would be better than FC3, which it is only in the eyes of madmen as you can see by the fact that Rodyle holds this opinion.
I only like fc4 more because of the good end.
GhostDIGIT
January 3rd, 2016, 04:18 PM
Are open world and sandbox the same thing?
A sandbox is big but there's nothing fun in it. An open world has fun stuff.
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 04:19 PM
Witcher is a way less egregious example of The Sandbox Game than normal, lacking towers and whatnot. It's a sandbox RPG, more like Bethesda titles than The Sandbox Game. Thing is, I don't think it really gets all that much from the sandbox per se. The random miniquest and contiguous world are nice but I have not a care for spelunking and diving for loot.
Skull
January 3rd, 2016, 04:19 PM
What games would you say fall into the "AA" category?
Duracell Batteries.
But seriously, I don't think "AA" is a real category.
Kirby
January 3rd, 2016, 04:19 PM
FC3 was another one of those games I had fun with, but never actually finished for reasons I'm not sure. I stopped a bit into the final act, when they try to kill rich guy
I3uster
January 3rd, 2016, 04:19 PM
I only like fc4 more because of the good end.
fc4 is just such an ubisoft game because it tries to make lightning strike twice in a cynically calculating manner
it reminds me of the CoDMWs all having to have a sadbad scene because the nuke was an actually good and effective moment so lets just do it again but yknow, BIGGER
REMEMBER WHEN YOU TRIPPED BALLS TO ELECTRONIC MUSIC
mAc Chaos
January 3rd, 2016, 04:19 PM
I mean like a historical rpg. Is that even a thing?
There's tabletop games like that.
black1blade
January 3rd, 2016, 04:20 PM
A sandbox is big but there's nothing fun in it. An open world has fun stuff.
I thought a sandbox was where you could do lots of different things in the world and that the game has multiple play styles?
I3uster
January 3rd, 2016, 04:20 PM
also fuck the semiauto sniper they might as well just call it the babby rifle for the unsporting gentleman
GhostDIGIT
January 3rd, 2016, 04:20 PM
I thought a sandbox was where you could do lots of different things in the world and that the game has multiple play styles?
It's a sandbox, man, there's nothing but sand in it.
Snow
January 3rd, 2016, 04:21 PM
pls no more sandboxes or open worlds I need a waist-high wall to give my life direction and purpose
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 04:22 PM
Doesn't it still have the torture scene and the German merc
Like yes Vaas is a reason this game is good but it's not the only reason or FC4 would be better than FC3, which it is only in the eyes of madmen as you can see by the fact that Rodyle holds this opinion.
FC4 has a way better setting, the villain is a more omnipresent feature, and it cuts the tedious "white saviour"/"savage cult" garbage.
Mind you, of the 3 BD is the only one I cared to stick with long enough to finish instead of just getting bored and looking up the rest. Almost like 3 and 4 are both stretched thin and stuffed with filler or something.
black1blade
January 3rd, 2016, 04:22 PM
There's tabletop games like that.
Yeah loads but there is a massive difference between video game and tabletop RPGs that the only thing they really share is the title "RPG".
I3uster
January 3rd, 2016, 04:23 PM
FC4 has a way better setting, the villain is a more omnipresent feature, and it cuts the tedious "white saviour"/"savage cult" garbage.
maybe being a white savior isnt...good...
black1blade
January 3rd, 2016, 04:23 PM
It's a sandbox, man, there's nothing but sand in it.
But minecraft is a sandbox and you can do loads of stuff in that annoying game.
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 04:23 PM
pls no more sandboxes or open worlds I need a waist-high wall to give my life direction and purpose
I have been unkind to our waist high friends in the past, but there is something to be said for the controlled pacing of a linear game.
SeiKeo
January 3rd, 2016, 04:24 PM
Walls...
are good
I3uster
January 3rd, 2016, 04:24 PM
I have been unkind to our waist high friends in the past, but there is something to be said for the controlled pacing of a linear game.
after all the best game ever made, no more heroes, is a linear game
just Beamu
January 3rd, 2016, 04:24 PM
Xenoblade X's world is good.
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 04:24 PM
maybe being a white savior isnt...good...
If you are going to deny that FC3 tries to have it's cake and eat it too in that one I begin to doubt you played the game
GhostDIGIT
January 3rd, 2016, 04:25 PM
But minecraft is a sandbox and you can do loads of stuff in that annoying game.
Minecraft is an open world but called a sandbox even though it doesn't have walls. I mean it just goes on forever.
black1blade
January 3rd, 2016, 04:25 PM
Waist/chest high walls are annoying and unnatural. Gaps that make paths through massive cliffs are the way to go.
I3uster
January 3rd, 2016, 04:25 PM
If you are going to deny that FC3 tries to have it's cake and eat it too in that one I begin to doubt you played the game
Spec Ops The Line gives you ammo for execution prompts
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 04:26 PM
Like look at fucking MGSV, the game that ultimately gained nothing for its sandbox except multiple angles of approach on bases
black1blade
January 3rd, 2016, 04:26 PM
Xenoblade X's world is good.
It is but then I'm confused under what definition it lies under, open world or sandbox.
Snow
January 3rd, 2016, 04:26 PM
Waist/chest high walls are annoying and unnatural. Gaps that make paths through massive cliffs are the way to go.
but it's like the same thing, gameplay wise
Skull
January 3rd, 2016, 04:26 PM
Xenoblade X's world is good.
By that, do you mean the geography, the lore, the open gameplay or something else?
And how does it compare to the original?
SeiKeo
January 3rd, 2016, 04:27 PM
Spec Ops The Line gives you ammo for execution prompts
Spec Ops, however, is good.
GhostDIGIT
January 3rd, 2016, 04:28 PM
Spec Ops, however, is good.
"Someone needs to answer for your crimes."
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 04:28 PM
Spec Ops The Line gives you ammo for execution prompts
Spec Ops is an interesting idea with really, really spotty execution
Strife ❤️
January 3rd, 2016, 04:28 PM
lol @ u if you play any games this year except Dark Souls III and Final Fantasy XV
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 04:28 PM
It is but then I'm confused under what definition it lies under, open world or sandbox.
They are the same thing
I3uster
January 3rd, 2016, 04:28 PM
Spec Ops, however, is good.
They are pretty similar but FC3 has to lose some of the biting edge for open world.
Gains a bit more subtlety.
that can sometimes be a negative asset
as seen here
Kirby
January 3rd, 2016, 04:29 PM
Should I still play Spec Ops if I already know the twist(s)?
black1blade
January 3rd, 2016, 04:29 PM
I would be more inclined to say open world but it isn't very densely packed compared to a bethesda game. Well the thing with X is that it's the mechanics themselves that give the monster's depth.
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 04:29 PM
lol @ u if you play any games this year except Dark Souls III and Final Fantasy XV
Persona 5
SeiKeo
January 3rd, 2016, 04:29 PM
Spec Ops is an interesting idea with really, really spotty execution
this is the criticism of cowards
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Should I still play Spec Ops if I already know the twist(s)?
yes, but no if you haven't played call of duty
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lol @ u if you play any games this year except Dark Souls III and Final Fantasy XV
LR
Snow
January 3rd, 2016, 04:29 PM
whatever happened to that Torment game that was on Kickstarter a while ago?
Kirby
January 3rd, 2016, 04:29 PM
no console ohyuu :c
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 04:29 PM
Should I still play Spec Ops if I already know the twist(s)?
Spec Ops isn't that good.
GhostDIGIT
January 3rd, 2016, 04:29 PM
Should I still play Spec Ops if I already know the twist(s)?
Yeah, it's still a fun third person shooter.
SeiKeo
January 3rd, 2016, 04:29 PM
whatever happened to that Torment game that was on Kickstarter a while ago?
still in production
Strife ❤️
January 3rd, 2016, 04:29 PM
Persona 5
ayy lmao time to literally dust off the dead console
Kirby
January 3rd, 2016, 04:30 PM
yes, but no if you haven't played call of duty
welp
I3uster
January 3rd, 2016, 04:30 PM
Should I still play Spec Ops if I already know the twist(s)?
Honestly if you don't play mil shooters I don't think it's particularly advisable?
Like some scenes (mortar assault) are playing with expectations you have coming in from some Tom Clancy, BF or CoD game.
Strife ❤️
January 3rd, 2016, 04:30 PM
oh they're actually releasing it on ps4
SeiKeo
January 3rd, 2016, 04:30 PM
ayy lmao time to literally dust off the dead console
i feel like 'persona being amazing' is some kind of weird anime community injoke that just proves my isolation
black1blade
January 3rd, 2016, 04:30 PM
By that, do you mean the geography, the lore, the open gameplay or something else?
And how does it compare to the original?
Remember guar plains form the first game? Well the whole game is like that on a massive scale. It's very layered too so probably the geography is the best thing about it's world.
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 04:30 PM
Also Kirby let's be real you have no intention of actually booting up anything
Strife ❤️
January 3rd, 2016, 04:30 PM
Persona 4 came out when PS2 was dead and buried so I assumed it would be the same (PS3 only).
just Beamu
January 3rd, 2016, 04:31 PM
By that, do you mean the geography, the lore, the open gameplay or something else?
And how does it compare to the original?
The geography and gameplay. It improves on the gameplay elements of the first one and the world is much larger and open ended by comparison. Large by any comparison.
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 04:31 PM
oh they're actually releasing it on ps4
Yes, thankfully. I did dust off the PS3 for Yakuza 5 though.
black1blade
January 3rd, 2016, 04:31 PM
Gonna play DS3 if I get into DS. Well I'll play bloodborne first. Last guardian is the only game coming out next year that I'm going to play straight away well that and zelda U if it actually comes out.
I3uster
January 3rd, 2016, 04:32 PM
i feel like 'persona being amazing' is some kind of weird anime community injoke that just proves my isolation
I'm told the thing with Persona is that it more than any other JRPG lets you play An Anime
so if you like The Animes you will like Persona
JRPGs are kind of a bad genre though so I never played one. And the JRPG buffs tell me its not even good anyway.
just Beamu
January 3rd, 2016, 04:32 PM
Remember guar plains form the first game? Well the whole game is like that on a massive scale. It's very layered too so probably the geography is the best thing about it's world.
Only one of the continents has much of a resemblance to Gaur Plains.
Snow
January 3rd, 2016, 04:32 PM
i feel like 'persona being amazing' is some kind of weird anime community injoke that just proves my isolation
2 looks mighty cool and has a cool atmosphere but I never got too deep into it. 3 is good. 4 is okay but not my cup of tea.
I'm not into JRPGs but Persona did hype me for a while and is not bad overall.
Kelnish
January 3rd, 2016, 04:32 PM
i feel like 'persona being amazing' is some kind of weird anime community injoke that just proves my isolation
This but unironically
Kirby
January 3rd, 2016, 04:32 PM
Also Kirby let's be real you have no intention of actually booting up anything
I mostly just hoard games from sales and hope I play them one day. But I don't just buy anything on sale, I want to know if I should actually want to play it one day.
Like, I can actually play Witcher 2 now that my computer can run it, but I got that like a year or two ago
Skull
January 3rd, 2016, 04:33 PM
Persona 4 came out when PS2 was dead and buried so I assumed it would be the same (PS3 only).
Thankfully they're releasing it on both PS3 and PS4 so I can play it as well. :)
black1blade
January 3rd, 2016, 04:33 PM
I have no problems with companies releasing games on last gen only if it actually means the game can be made. Both xenoblade games wouldn't have been possible if they where made on the current gen consoles at the time.
Snow
January 3rd, 2016, 04:33 PM
Don't care for P5 anymore though.
Strife ❤️
January 3rd, 2016, 04:33 PM
JRPGs can be amazing but there are only a handful that are good.
just Beamu
January 3rd, 2016, 04:34 PM
zelda U if it actually comes out.
There isn't any question about if it will come out. Just if there will be anymore delays.
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 04:34 PM
P4 is the only good Persona so far but 5 looks neat.
I3uster
January 3rd, 2016, 04:34 PM
strife didnt you say you liked XIII
i dont think i can trust you on this one
Kelnish
January 3rd, 2016, 04:34 PM
JRPGs can be amazing but there are only a handful that are good.
Golden sun #fuckyeah
black1blade
January 3rd, 2016, 04:34 PM
Only one of the continents has much of a resemblance to Gaur Plains.
Well not in the look but in the way of it being open, sprawling and layered. The later continents aren't as good as the first 3 and cauldros is by far the worst. Cauldros is still a cool area but it's not terribly interesting to explore.
SeiKeo
January 3rd, 2016, 04:35 PM
lightning...
is really good
Snow
January 3rd, 2016, 04:35 PM
P4 is the only good Persona so far but 5 looks neat.
for me dark urban fantasy yes cheery murder mystery in a small town nah
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 04:35 PM
Golden sun #fuckyeah
Noooooo
just Beamu
January 3rd, 2016, 04:35 PM
Both xenoblade games wouldn't have been possible if they where made on the current gen consoles at the time.
Monolithsoft is pretty much owned by Nintendo, so they were on the current consoles that they could be released on at the time.
I3uster
January 3rd, 2016, 04:36 PM
lightning...
is really good
do you base your opinions purely on eyeballing the potential backlash of a bad opinion or do you sometimes just dartboard it
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 04:36 PM
for me dark urban fantasy yes cheery murder mystery in a small town nah
P3 is an 80 hour game that only becomes good in the last 10, I can't recommend people that shit, especially with the party you have to deal with.
black1blade
January 3rd, 2016, 04:36 PM
Does anyone like okami? I played the first hour and a bit and it was alright but nothing amazing.
Skull
January 3rd, 2016, 04:37 PM
P4 is the only good Persona so far but 5 looks neat.
Ouch, I'm the other way round.
P4 was my least favourite. I'm apprehensive about 5, but will still probably play it.
SeiKeo
January 3rd, 2016, 04:37 PM
do you base your opinions purely on eyeballing the potential backlash of a bad opinion or do you sometimes just dartboard it
I have never lied to you.
Snow
January 3rd, 2016, 04:37 PM
P3 is an 80 hour game that only becomes good in the last 10, I can't recommend people that shit, especially with the party you have to deal with.
that's just my personal taste
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 04:38 PM
Does anyone like okami? I played the first hour and a bit and it was alright but nothing amazing.
Okami is a masterpiece but it's like... it's like they made 3 games and god that 2nd one was way better than the 3rd, even though I liked the third.
I3uster
January 3rd, 2016, 04:38 PM
I have never lied to you.
stop gaslighting me
Kelnish
January 3rd, 2016, 04:39 PM
I have never lied to you.
Youve lied to me
just Beamu
January 3rd, 2016, 04:39 PM
Ouch, I'm the other way round.
P4 was my least favourite. I'm apprehensive about 5, but will still probably play it.
P2 is not a game that has aged well.
Strife ❤️
January 3rd, 2016, 04:39 PM
do you base your opinions purely on eyeballing the potential backlash of a bad opinion or do you sometimes just dartboard it
http://i.imgur.com/fI7LF6A.png
Snow
January 3rd, 2016, 04:39 PM
What would be a good and refreshing RPG setting (no open world pls)?
SeiKeo
January 3rd, 2016, 04:39 PM
What would be a good and refreshing RPG setting (no open world pls)?
Lightning Returns
black1blade
January 3rd, 2016, 04:40 PM
Monolithsoft is pretty much owned by Nintendo, so they were on the current consoles that they could be released on at the time.
Yeah I know but I doubt it would be possible to make such large open worlds with high quality graphics as a niche JRPG. Are there any big open world JRPGs that came out with current gen graphics apart from the upcoming FF XV?
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 04:40 PM
P1 is and always was trash. P2 has an appealingly crazy story but the gameplay is still awful.
GhostDIGIT
January 3rd, 2016, 04:40 PM
What would be a good and refreshing RPG setting (no open world pls)?
A magical mansion.
I3uster
January 3rd, 2016, 04:40 PM
http://i.imgur.com/fI7LF6A.png
dont we all lie to ourselves the most
Kelnish
January 3rd, 2016, 04:40 PM
What would be a good and refreshing RPG setting (no open world pls)?
Nazi germany
Snow
January 3rd, 2016, 04:40 PM
Lightning Returns
I want to play as grumpy Snow not grumpy Lightning.
Or can you actually play as grumpy Snow?
Kelnish
January 3rd, 2016, 04:40 PM
dont we all lie to ourselves the most
I never lie to myself.
black1blade
January 3rd, 2016, 04:41 PM
Well p3 is £8 on PSN and I love urban fantasy settings.
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 04:43 PM
P3 is a very bad game with intolerable characters, godspeed to you Blackblade.
SeiKeo
January 3rd, 2016, 04:43 PM
Nazi germany
If there was, hypothetically, an anime 3rd Reich RP, do you want to play as Cute SS, Cute OSS, or Cute MI6?
Skull
January 3rd, 2016, 04:43 PM
P3 is decent, but I only cared for a few of the cast.
SeiKeo
January 3rd, 2016, 04:43 PM
I want to play as grumpy Snow not grumpy Lightning.
Or can you actually play as grumpy Snow?
no, just edgy lightning with cool glasses
black1blade
January 3rd, 2016, 04:43 PM
Guess I should persist with okami then. I have so many games to play and I just keep putting more hours in X. I know that I would get more out of 2 hours playing a game that isn't X but as an overall composite experience, X is the best game I've ever played.
Strife ❤️
January 3rd, 2016, 04:43 PM
I like Xenosaga because it's the most pretentious game ever made. It's split into three games:
Episode I: Der Wille zur Macht
Episode II: Jenseits von Gut und Böse
Episode III: Also sprach Zarathustra
It's a space opera where you have Mary Magdalene in your party.
Snow
January 3rd, 2016, 04:43 PM
If there was, hypothetically, an anime 3rd Reich RP, do you want to play as Cute SS, Cute OSS, or Cute MI6?
Cute Partisan.
Strife ❤️
January 3rd, 2016, 04:44 PM
No Xenoblade shit where they got rid of the 2 hour long cutscenes and everything cool about the game
black1blade
January 3rd, 2016, 04:44 PM
Well don't JRPGs all just have the plots of bad anime?
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 04:44 PM
X is the best game I've ever played.
Okay realtalk that's depressing.
SeiKeo
January 3rd, 2016, 04:44 PM
Cute Partisan.
yes but that's occupied territory, not Der Reich
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 04:45 PM
Well don't JRPGs all just have the plots of bad anime?
Some have the plot of good anime, and some have the bonkers plot of Japanese crime shows.
Snow
January 3rd, 2016, 04:45 PM
yes but that's occupied territory, not Der Reich
okay leave it for the DLC then
black1blade
January 3rd, 2016, 04:47 PM
No Xenoblade shit where they got rid of the 2 hour long cutscenes and everything cool about the game
I'm guessing you didn't beat the superbosses in the original. Sure the cutscenes and story are cool but the really rewarding thing about the first game was beating the strongest monsters with the fantastic battle system. X capitalised on that and expanded it a lot. They even incorporated the most powerful monster in X into the narrative where as in xenoblade, if zanza was god of all life on the bionis why didn't he just drop avalance abassy (level 120 dragon) onto you and call it a day as shulk is crushed by spike damage?
just Beamu
January 3rd, 2016, 04:47 PM
P3 is a very bad game with intolerable characters, godspeed to you Blackblade.
You know this won't stop him.
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 04:47 PM
You know this won't stop him.
I said "godspeed"
just Beamu
January 3rd, 2016, 04:48 PM
It's a space opera where you have Mary Magdalene in your party.
X isn't quite so far from this as you might think.
black1blade
January 3rd, 2016, 04:48 PM
Okay realtalk that's depressing.
Well I haven't played a lot of games. It's definitely my fav game at least which might as well mean the best.
Strife ❤️
January 3rd, 2016, 04:48 PM
I'm guessing you didn't beat the superbosses in the original.
I played it for like 10 minutes and was like what the fuck is this what happened to Xeno...
black1blade
January 3rd, 2016, 04:49 PM
I said "godspeed"
Well that's subjective. Knowing my shit taste, I'll probably love the characters...
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 04:49 PM
I'm guessing you didn't beat the superbosses in the original. Sure the cutscenes and story are cool but the really rewarding thing about the first game was beating the strongest monsters with the fantastic battle system.
Lolwhat no Xenoblade was all about pushing through the shitty MMO combat and quests to see more environments and music, eventually giving up when the story completely collapses and the combat becomes intolerable
Snow
January 3rd, 2016, 04:49 PM
And yeah cute SS would be my protag choice.
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 04:50 PM
I played it for like 10 minutes and was like what the fuck is this what happened to Xeno...
Xeno isn't a series it's just a prefix denoting the same creator.
black1blade
January 3rd, 2016, 04:50 PM
I played it for like 10 minutes and was like what the fuck is this what happened to Xeno...
Well it wasn't original called xenoblade but they changed the name to have xeno so that people knew it was a takeuchi game. Directors are allowed to make different types of games. Does xenogears have a conclusion? I know X and xenosaga don't.
Strife ❤️
January 3rd, 2016, 04:50 PM
how does that affect what I said at all
Kelnish
January 3rd, 2016, 04:51 PM
If there was, hypothetically, an anime 3rd Reich RP, do you want to play as Cute SS, Cute OSS, or Cute MI6?
Remember Brad Pitts character in inglorious basterds? Poorly masquerading cowboy? That.
Polly
January 3rd, 2016, 04:51 PM
I want to be cute NKVD!
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 04:52 PM
how does that affect what I said at all
I mean as BB said, creators can make different kinds of games. Especially when they're better.
black1blade
January 3rd, 2016, 04:52 PM
Lolwhat no Xenoblade was all about pushing through the shitty MMO combat and quests to see more environments and music, eventually giving up when the story completely collapses and the combat becomes intolerable
So assuming you just played as shulk the entire game and always kept sharla in your team lol.
SeiKeo
January 3rd, 2016, 04:53 PM
Is a Cute Internal Security Apparatus RP too 'edgy' for BL?
Snow
January 3rd, 2016, 04:53 PM
okay I think I have a oneshot idea for the fanfic contest and it actually seems like something I'd be able to write
Kelnish
January 3rd, 2016, 04:53 PM
Is a Cute Internal Security Apparatus RP too 'edgy' for BL?
Its too edgy for luster~~~~
just Beamu
January 3rd, 2016, 04:53 PM
So assuming you just played as shulk the entire game and always kept sharla in your team lol.
Stahp
black1blade
January 3rd, 2016, 04:53 PM
Xenoblade is fun because you don't need any of this tank or healer BS.
Kirby
January 3rd, 2016, 04:53 PM
Cute Internal Security Apparatus
?? ?
Kelnish
January 3rd, 2016, 04:54 PM
okay I think I have a oneshot idea for the fanfic contest and it actually seems like something I'd be able to write
Is it Getting Some Action 2:Electic Boogalo?
black1blade
January 3rd, 2016, 04:54 PM
Chain attacks are amazing in the first game.
Strife ❤️
January 3rd, 2016, 04:54 PM
I mean as BB said, creators can make different kinds of games. Especially when they're better.
Ok, realtalk.
Xenoblade and presumably X too seem to be good games, they are just missing the reason I like/care about Xenosaga/Gears.
black1blade
January 3rd, 2016, 04:54 PM
Especially when you get to use blossom dance with dunban.
Polly
January 3rd, 2016, 04:55 PM
Is a Cute Internal Security Apparatus RP too 'edgy' for BL?
Nope. You should make that RP right now immediately.
SeiKeo
January 3rd, 2016, 04:55 PM
?? ?
nkvd/ss/fbi/mi5/kempeitai
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 04:55 PM
So assuming you just played as shulk the entire game and always kept sharla in your team lol.
It doesn't matter what character you play you rube, it's still MMO combat, it's all babysitting cool down bars and collecting horse spines.
SeiKeo
January 3rd, 2016, 04:56 PM
or even a modern setting where it's the Badass Normals against nasu supernatural baddies
Snow
January 3rd, 2016, 04:56 PM
Is it Getting Some Action 2:Electic Boogalo?
I don't know how to write that :(
Polly
January 3rd, 2016, 04:56 PM
nkvd/ss/fbi/mi5/kempeitai
Dibs on NKVD!
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Me and Leo-chan:
http://orig11.deviantart.net/fd8b/f/2015/102/3/e/girls_from_nkvd_by_senhariko-d8pfgbg.jpg
black1blade
January 3rd, 2016, 04:56 PM
Ok, realtalk.
Xenoblade and presumably X too seem to be good games, they are just missing the reason I like/care about Xenosaga/Gears.
Fair enough. Wish xenogears and xenosaga where on the PS store. A walk through for xenosaga would probably be the same thing as playing it right?
Snow
January 3rd, 2016, 04:56 PM
or even a modern setting where it's the Badass Normals against nasu supernatural baddies
Or Evil Badass Normals against nasu supernatural goodies?
Strife ❤️
January 3rd, 2016, 04:57 PM
nkvd/ss/fbi/mi5/kempeitai
shin bet gonna fuck you up
Polly
January 3rd, 2016, 04:57 PM
I don't know how to write that :(
Just use the words 'member' and 'throbbing' many times, you'll be fine.
Snow
January 3rd, 2016, 04:57 PM
Just use the words 'member' and 'throbbing' many times, you'll be fine.
i need an adult
Polly
January 3rd, 2016, 04:57 PM
i need an adult
I am an adult.
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 04:57 PM
Ok, realtalk.
Xenoblade and presumably X too seem to be good games, they are just missing the reason I like/care about Xenosaga/Gears.
I mean I don't end up liking any Xeno game beyond certain parts. Saga 1 had some hilarious cutscenes but not much else, Xenogears had that 2nd disk, Xenoblade completely collapses in the 2nd half of the game, and X has basically nothing but environments going for it so far as I have seen.
SeiKeo
January 3rd, 2016, 04:58 PM
shin bet gonna fuck you up
that's not historically appropriate to the time period
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Or Evil Badass Normals against nasu supernatural goodies?
well, i mean, who are we to say that a pc as part of the ss is evil
Snow
January 3rd, 2016, 04:58 PM
I am an adult.
Member of what?
Oh oh is it a member of a secret society I could write about that!!!
black1blade
January 3rd, 2016, 04:58 PM
It doesn't matter what character you play you tube, it's still MMO combat, it's all babysitting cool down bars and collecting horse spines.
In the first xenoblade monster materials don't matter at all. Managing cooldown bars is a pretty tactical and interesting thing to do imo especially when it matters the order in which you combine them together.
Kelnish
January 3rd, 2016, 04:58 PM
I don't know how to write that :(
Find something leo/five wrote and change character names to Twice H Pieceman and Caster
Kirby
January 3rd, 2016, 04:58 PM
There won't be
numbers
will there?
Snow
January 3rd, 2016, 04:59 PM
well, i mean, who are we to say that a pc as part of the ss is evil
I just want to fight against goodies because I'm EDGE
Five_X
January 3rd, 2016, 04:59 PM
well, i mean, who are we to say that a pc as part of the ss is evil
KanColle RP pls
with WW2 drama maybe
Polly
January 3rd, 2016, 04:59 PM
Member of what?
Oh oh is it a member of a secret society I could write about that!!!
It's penis.
Kelnish
January 3rd, 2016, 04:59 PM
well, i mean, who are we to say that a pc as part of the ss is evil
My historical narrative
Strife ❤️
January 3rd, 2016, 05:00 PM
that's not historically appropriate to the time period
oh
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 05:00 PM
In the first xenoblade monster materials don't matter at all. Managing cooldown bars is a pretty tactical and interesting thing to do imo especially when it matters the order in which you combine them together.
Yes it does because you need to collect gubbins to get good shit, hell, they hid goddamn Monado abilities behind some of those fetch quests.
just Beamu
January 3rd, 2016, 05:00 PM
X has basically nothing but environments going for it so far as I have seen.
This is accurate.
Snow
January 3rd, 2016, 05:00 PM
It's penis.
jokedesu.jpg
Polly
January 3rd, 2016, 05:00 PM
Find something leo/five wrote and change character names to Twice H Pieceman and Caster
I am fucking pissing myself.
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jokedesu.jpg
iknow.jpg
Snow
January 3rd, 2016, 05:01 PM
Find something leo/five wrote and change character names to Twice H Pieceman and Caster
oh hell naw
black1blade
January 3rd, 2016, 05:01 PM
Anyway have to do maths homework. I probably should have revised for my french speaking exam but I'm not sure when I'm doing it.
just Beamu
January 3rd, 2016, 05:01 PM
In the first xenoblade monster materials don't matter at all.
Did we even play the same fucking game
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 05:01 PM
I will shit on Xenoblade til the cows come home but I will say this, goddamn is that setting amazing, and it comes with incredible environments and music.
The swamp/arm...
Polly
January 3rd, 2016, 05:01 PM
oh hell naw
Write some Hibichika
SeiKeo
January 3rd, 2016, 05:02 PM
KanColle RP pls
with WW2 drama maybe
hhmmmm no? this is better
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modern or period though
Kirby
January 3rd, 2016, 05:02 PM
Again?
black1blade
January 3rd, 2016, 05:02 PM
Yes it does because you need to collect gubbins to get good shit, hell, they hid goddamn Monado abilities behind some of those fetch quests.
Well those monado abilities aren't really important. The skill trees you unlock by sidequesting are incredibly important though.
Polly
January 3rd, 2016, 05:02 PM
hhmmmm no? this is better
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modern or period though
period
black1blade
January 3rd, 2016, 05:03 PM
Did we even play the same fucking game
Probably because the farming is on a whole different scale in X that the first game seems like nothing.
SeiKeo
January 3rd, 2016, 05:03 PM
are there any other important internal security services i'm missing and do people actually want internal security more than James Bond Action
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and how nasu
black1blade
January 3rd, 2016, 05:03 PM
Actually I just remembered colony 6...yeah mats are important.
Polly
January 3rd, 2016, 05:04 PM
are there any other important internal security services i'm missing and do people actually want internal security more than James Bond Action
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and how nasu
less bond, moderate nasu
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 05:04 PM
Probably because the farming is on a whole different scale in X that the first game seems like nothing.
Boy what a ringing endorsement of X
Strife ❤️
January 3rd, 2016, 05:04 PM
my fc
http://i.imgur.com/jYZXuEU.jpg
me infront of a flag i captured from the enemy
Polly
January 3rd, 2016, 05:05 PM
My FC:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/USDnyAEZWXg/maxresdefault.jpg
2Bad
January 3rd, 2016, 05:06 PM
A thing I will give X from what I have seen: the cutscenes are back to Saga levels of insanity
SeiKeo
January 3rd, 2016, 05:06 PM
are therye any other cute internal security services i'm forgetting???
black1blade
January 3rd, 2016, 05:06 PM
X has about 120 hours of non stop normal/affinity/story missions some of which do involve tedious elements (get X am mount of thing or kill X monster ect) but those bits don't take very long and you get some cool dialogue out of them. X has a lot of interesting alien races that I didn't even realise existed till I got into playing the game.
Polly
January 3rd, 2016, 05:06 PM
are therye any other cute internal security services i'm forgetting???
Kempetai?
black1blade
January 3rd, 2016, 05:07 PM
Boy what a ringing endorsement of X
Only late game, after the hours of nonstop missions start to dry up.
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