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Petrikow
February 20th, 2016, 01:22 PM
fanclubs arent active

avalon is active

GhostDIGIT
February 20th, 2016, 01:22 PM
Because whenever someone says something about one it gives me the impression that a lot more than just image posting and re-posting went down.

Snow
February 20th, 2016, 01:23 PM
unfortunate

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Because whenever someone says something about one it gives me the impression that a lot more than just image posting and re-posting went down.

I'm sure wank is the only thing that really went down.

SeiKeo
February 20th, 2016, 01:23 PM
fanclubs arent active

avalon is active
which has a certain poetry when you realize it's the only 'club' proper out of them all

Snow
February 20th, 2016, 01:25 PM
can't have a club without crazies no

GhostDIGIT
February 20th, 2016, 01:25 PM
I'm sure wank is the only thing that really went down.
Seems to be one of the impressions that I'm getting.

Kirby
February 20th, 2016, 01:26 PM
I used to post art in clubs, but imgur changed their thing for some who-the-fuck knows reason so that you can no longer mass-copy embed links, and have to do them one by one

Snow
February 20th, 2016, 01:48 PM
let's groupwatch Holy Grail

Petrikow
February 20th, 2016, 02:01 PM
i mean

ok

Five_X
February 20th, 2016, 02:03 PM
let's groupwatch Holy Grail

I'd definitely take part in this.

GhostDIGIT
February 20th, 2016, 02:06 PM
How we does that?

Strife ❤️
February 20th, 2016, 02:06 PM
http://i.imgur.com/UQEWMkeh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/7nLD3oLh.jpg

*Burning Love pose in Admiralty Bridge*

All guns, FIRE!

Snow
February 20th, 2016, 02:08 PM
How we does that?

You go to skype, join group voicechat, everyone starts playing the film at around the same time.

Prix with a Silent X
February 20th, 2016, 02:15 PM
I am fond of our silly banners, but if we ever had a new banner contest while I am a resident here that would be cool. Not that I would make anything good.

I want to groupwatch Holy Grail, but today I have to actually go see a person later??? It's very weird and I'm scared.

Why is there disdain for fanclubs? I mean I've only looked at like three or five of them, but... why are fanclubs bad?

Kirby
February 20th, 2016, 02:20 PM
Ever been to Avalon?

Petrikow
February 20th, 2016, 02:21 PM
fanclubs are not bad

its just pictures mostly

but avalon is different

Strife ❤️
February 20th, 2016, 02:22 PM
Even it isn't as bad as the tales that are told...

Kirby
February 20th, 2016, 02:27 PM
I just think it's funny because I think there are some members here who have literally never posted outside of Avalon

GhostDIGIT
February 20th, 2016, 02:28 PM
That's impossible.

Snow
February 20th, 2016, 02:32 PM
There's a lot of good art to be found in Avalon. It's just that it's a bit of a dictatorship.

Kirby
February 20th, 2016, 02:38 PM
Seize the Mandate of Heaven, overthrow the ruling dynasties.

GhostDIGIT
February 20th, 2016, 02:39 PM
The gods' favor is with us!

Rafflesiac
February 20th, 2016, 02:41 PM
Even it isn't as bad as the tales that are told...
Spoken like a true Saberfan...

black1blade
February 20th, 2016, 02:50 PM
I'm curious now.

GhostDIGIT
February 20th, 2016, 02:57 PM
Curious of what?

Skull
February 20th, 2016, 03:00 PM
I'm curious now.
http://img.i-am-boss.org/a/src/133827061150.jpg (https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjkguyTg4fLAhWEtRoKHXV9AwgQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.i-am-boss.org%2Fa%2F&psig=AFQjCNFO_WKEU4cCodFBJPdCYhk2FO1-oA&ust=1456081072875707)

black1blade
February 20th, 2016, 03:10 PM
Avalon.

Historia
February 20th, 2016, 03:15 PM
Avalon is Saber's fanclub.

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bunch o' Takeuchis in there

Prix with a Silent X
February 20th, 2016, 03:36 PM
There's a lot of good art to be found in Avalon. It's just that it's a bit of a dictatorship.

Dictatorship...? I mean I've looked at a few pages at a time and it's just Saber art. I like Saber a lot, fight me, but I like a lot of other things pretty equally. I don't really believe in this whole cultic devotion to one or two aspects of a work of fiction and then decrying all other parts of it as Bad nonsense.

But there are Bad Fans... Who basically do this kind of dictatorial nonsense.

Snow
February 20th, 2016, 03:41 PM
Dictatorship...? I mean I've looked at a few pages at a time and it's just Saber art.
Posting a piece of Saber art featuring Gil in any way gets you a very bad time in Avalon.

SeiKeo
February 20th, 2016, 03:44 PM
Dictatorship...? I mean I've looked at a few pages at a time and it's just Saber art. I like Saber a lot, fight me, but I like a lot of other things pretty equally. I don't really believe in this whole cultic devotion to one or two aspects of a work of fiction and then decrying all other parts of it as Bad nonsense.

But there are Bad Fans... Who basically do this kind of dictatorial nonsense.
I mean, you know the thread owner deleted it when someone opened up an alt saber FC that was willing to host stuff he hated, right

well now you know

Leftovers
February 20th, 2016, 03:51 PM
Avalon is peaceful, its inhabitants kind. It's only those who trespass that sanctuary with dark intentions that force their hand.

GhostDIGIT
February 20th, 2016, 03:53 PM
Fucking Priscilla.

mAc Chaos
February 20th, 2016, 03:55 PM
I mean, you know the thread owner deleted it when someone opened up an alt saber FC that was willing to host stuff he hated, right

well now you know
Did the admins undelete it or something?

Leftovers
February 20th, 2016, 03:58 PM
Did the admins undelete it or something?

Ye. That and lantz repeatedly deleting his threads are the reasons users can't delete the threads they've started anymore.

black1blade
February 20th, 2016, 03:59 PM
Posting a piece of Saber art featuring Gil in any way gets you a very bad time in Avalon.
Mwhaha

GhostDIGIT
February 20th, 2016, 03:59 PM
What did you do?

black1blade
February 20th, 2016, 04:02 PM
Testing to see if Avalon is as bad as people say.

GhostDIGIT
February 20th, 2016, 04:03 PM
That was actually a nice fanart of them just sitting there with each other

black1blade
February 20th, 2016, 04:04 PM
First thing that came up when I typed gil and saber.

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I don't ship it personally.

Five_X
February 20th, 2016, 04:05 PM
You know that's literally trolling, right?

just Beamu
February 20th, 2016, 04:05 PM
Goddammit bb

black1blade
February 20th, 2016, 04:06 PM
You know that's literally trolling, right?
It's testing the waters. I doubt it's as bad people say it is.

Tobias
February 20th, 2016, 04:06 PM
Mwhaha

..see I am mentally debating whether or not this post constitutes an admission of trolling. I'm actually inclined to think it probably does.


considering you don't have to many marks on your record, I'm just making this warning unofficial, but watch it.

EDIT: sniped.

black1blade
February 20th, 2016, 04:10 PM
Damn.

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Guess people take their fan clubs seriously.

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Sorry if it's that big a deal :/

Frostyvale
February 20th, 2016, 04:11 PM
It's not exactly hard to refrain from this, is it?

Snow
February 20th, 2016, 04:13 PM
Hey maybe you should make a fanclub sticky for this so people who actually aren't trolling and don't know that posting Gil and Saber in the same pic makes them WORSE THAN SATAN don't end up having a bad time.

Leftovers
February 20th, 2016, 04:22 PM
A look at Avalon's OP tells you that what is not OK according to the house rules is "rape, gore, vore, violence and mistreatment against Saber (especially from Gil)". What's questionable isn't posting Gil and Saber sharing a smoothie or something, but the explicit intent of doing so to elicit a reaction.

Prix with a Silent X
February 20th, 2016, 04:25 PM
Hey maybe you should make a fanclub sticky for this so people who actually aren't trolling and don't know that posting Gil and Saber in the same pic makes them WORSE THAN SATAN don't end up having a bad time.

Good grief. I don't think I need to blog about my whole corpus of personal feelings about Gilgamesh and Saber as characters, but I don't really understand why one would have that kind of a reaction that they would freak out just because someone posted art that featured them together in any way? Like, they exist in the same canon. They have at least some form of canon interaction. Whether that is good interaction or not, it shouldn't really matter? I mean, you can be a fan of two people who oppose one another ideologically or otherwise. You can be interested in more than one character. But, you know, heaven forbid we post something that isn't just happy fluff feelings about our favorite people...

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

But seriously, I can see how that it is nice to have a place where you can just unironically like a character without being worried about Controversial Opinions and like being happy if that character is unhappy or something, but there is... such a thing as being hypersensitive.

Anyway, yeah, don't troll people even if you don't agree with them, imo. Rules and also bad manners.

Snow
February 20th, 2016, 04:25 PM
A look at Avalon's OP tells you that what is not OK according to the house rules is "No rape, gore, vore, violence and mistreatment against Saber (especially from Gil)". What's questionable isn't posting Gil and Saber sharing a smoothie or something, but the explicit intent of doing so to elicit a reaction.

Not long ago a poster shared quality art that had absolutely no 'rape, gore, violence and mistreatment against Saber', its only ''sin'' was that it happened to feature Gilgamesh.

A mod then publicly invited people to put this person on ignore.

What bb just did was dumb af but let's not pretend people 'force Avalon's hand' every time, shall we.

black1blade
February 20th, 2016, 04:26 PM
Yeah point taken.

Prix with a Silent X
February 20th, 2016, 04:26 PM
A look at Avalon's OP tells you that what is not OK according to the house rules is "rape, gore, vore, violence and mistreatment against Saber (especially from Gil)". What's questionable isn't posting Gil and Saber sharing a smoothie or something, but the explicit intent of doing so to elicit a reaction.

I mean I had just looked at more recent posts and pictures, but like I think that this stipulation is 100% reasonable, honestly.

Strife ❤️
February 20th, 2016, 04:26 PM
Maybe not allowing certain pictures of a character is the real trolling

black1blade
February 20th, 2016, 04:27 PM
I'll delete it if it really is like a massive deal for people.

Prix with a Silent X
February 20th, 2016, 04:28 PM
Not long ago a poster shared quality art that had absolutely no 'rape, gore, violence and mistreatment against Saber', its only ''sin'' was that it happened to feature Gilgamesh.

A mod then publicly invited people to put this person on ignore.

What bb just did was dumb af but let's not pretend people 'force Avalon's hand' every time, shall we.

Indicated rule is 100% reasonable. This described situation is not reasonable, I think. I mean... just like I don't want to be mocked for what I am writing, I don't want other people to feel like that they're constantly being bombarded with something that involves their favorite character being shown to be either uncomfortable or happy with a bad time... But... there's... got to be some thread of just...

I don't even know what to say actually to articulate what I am trying to articulate. Prix loses words.

black1blade
February 20th, 2016, 04:30 PM
"Prix loses words." Sounds like something the JoJo narrator would say.

SeiKeo
February 20th, 2016, 04:30 PM
Indicated rule is 100% reasonable. This described situation is not reasonable, I think. I mean... just like I don't want to be mocked for what I am writing, I don't want other people to feel like that they're constantly being bombarded with something that involves their favorite character being shown to be either uncomfortable or happy with a bad time... But... there's... got to be some thread of just...

I don't even know what to say actually to articulate what I am trying to articulate. Prix loses words.
Is it 'if you want to have a place for pictures of a character, but actually treat it as a certain subset, you should make a place for the subset and not pretend that the superset and subset are the same'

Historia
February 20th, 2016, 04:30 PM
Who cares about Saber, we need more Drake.

black1blade
February 20th, 2016, 04:31 PM
subset

mAc Chaos
February 20th, 2016, 04:31 PM
Ye. That and lantz repeatedly deleting his threads are the reasons users can't delete the threads they've started anymore.
You shouldn't be allowed to delete threads anyway if you're a regular user. lool

And iirc the reason Gil x Saber is haram is because "the real Saber would never go with Gil so it's rape" or something like that.

SeiKeo
February 20th, 2016, 04:31 PM
You shouldn't be allowed to delete threads anyway if you're a user. lool

And iirc the reason Gil x Saber is haram is because "the real Saber would never go with Gil so it's rape" or something like that.
saber isn't real op

Leftovers
February 20th, 2016, 04:32 PM
Not long ago a poster shared quality art that had absolutely no 'rape, gore, violence and mistreatment against Saber', it's only ''sin'' was that it happened to feature Gilgamesh.

A mod then publicly invited people to put this person on ignore.

Ya, since house rules aren't actual forum rules the only advice for the offended person there is to suck it up. And I know the incident you were referring to; I agree that it wasn't exactly a shining moment of political correctness. And actually people have been prodded by glowy names before for purposely stating they're putting a user in their ignore list, so uhhhhh

What bb just did was dumb af but let's not pretend people 'force Avalon's hand' every time, shall we.

that, was a joke

http://puu.sh/nfcWh/62a398bf30.jpg

SeiKeo
February 20th, 2016, 04:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD8xLYHyCAc

GhostDIGIT
February 20th, 2016, 04:32 PM
To to think my question would lead to this.

mAc Chaos
February 20th, 2016, 04:33 PM
saber isn't real op
hate speech

Kirby
February 20th, 2016, 04:34 PM
Has the Gil/Saber Avalon drama ever actually gotten anyone banned or posts deleted, or is was it only just users arguing/yelling at each other?

Frostyvale
February 20th, 2016, 04:34 PM
Fairly mild honestly.

I'm flashing back to the "Do you like Saber?" thread.

Snow
February 20th, 2016, 04:34 PM
I know it was a joke, I just found it a good way to express what I was trying to say.

black1blade
February 20th, 2016, 04:34 PM
Yeah I'm gonna play dark souls...

SeiKeo
February 20th, 2016, 04:35 PM
Has the Gil/Saber Avalon drama ever actually gotten anyone banned or posts deleted, or is was it only just users arguing/yelling at each other?
Spinach got banned for it, I believe

GhostDIGIT
February 20th, 2016, 04:35 PM
Fairly mild honestly.

I'm flashing back to the "Do you like Saber?" thread.

...It spun out of control didn't it?

black1blade
February 20th, 2016, 04:35 PM
Saber doesn't really worked when shipped imo.

mAc Chaos
February 20th, 2016, 04:35 PM
Spinach got banned for it, I believe
nice meme

Tobias
February 20th, 2016, 04:36 PM
Has the Gil/Saber Avalon drama ever actually gotten anyone banned or posts deleted, or is was it only just users arguing/yelling at each other?

If nothing else I think a few people have rage quit.

Frostyvale
February 20th, 2016, 04:36 PM
Saber doesn't really worked when shipped imo.
That's true. Saber is the sort of woman who would quit her job and settle into the house after marriage.

GhostDIGIT
February 20th, 2016, 04:36 PM
Yeah I'm gonna play dark souls...

Have a nice death and make sure to memorize those patterns.

black1blade
February 20th, 2016, 04:37 PM
That's true. Saber is the sort of woman who would quit her job and settle into the house after marriage.
I mean it's happy when he she finally gets to die/ go to avalon or whatever the fuck happens to her.

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Well looks like I can't because my brother just went to bed. Thank god I'm gonna have my own room this time next week.

Kirby
February 20th, 2016, 04:37 PM
Fairly mild honestly.

I'm flashing back to the "Do you like Saber?" thread.


This is probably the worst thread I've seen on BL.
de aru

Historia
February 20th, 2016, 04:38 PM
I mean it's happy when he she finally gets to die/ go to avalon or whatever the fuck happens to her.

calm down my son

Leftovers
February 20th, 2016, 04:38 PM
Has the Gil/Saber Avalon drama ever actually gotten anyone banned or posts deleted, or is was it only just users arguing/yelling at each other?

Once upon a time, a band of daring posters endeavoured to bolster a degenerating thread with artwork of exquisite beauty and quality. And as recompense to their selfless efforts they were cruelly struck down, betrayed by the people they wanted to save.

black1blade
February 20th, 2016, 04:39 PM
Did they become magic anti-terrorist units?

Snow
February 20th, 2016, 04:40 PM
I will never understand shipping, not because I'm above such a thing but because I just want everyone to like each other and bang and be happy

black1blade
February 20th, 2016, 04:40 PM
I know this topic has been exhausted but the amount of stuff they managed to fuck up in UBW is impressive.

SeiKeo
February 20th, 2016, 04:40 PM
I will never understand shipping, not because I'm above such a thing but because I just want everyone to like each other and bang and be happy
Consider this, though: some of them shouldn't bang because it's gross.

Historia
February 20th, 2016, 04:40 PM
I know this topic has been exhausted but the amount of stuff they managed to fuck up in UBW is impressive.

pls no

go awayyyy

GhostDIGIT
February 20th, 2016, 04:41 PM
I will never understand shipping, not because I'm above such a thing but because I just want everyone to like each other and bang and be happy

Same.

just Beamu
February 20th, 2016, 04:42 PM
I know this topic has been exhausted but the amount of stuff they managed to fuck up in UBW is impressive.
Why even bring it up if you feel it's exhausted?

Snow
February 20th, 2016, 04:42 PM
Consider this, though: some of them shouldn't bang because it's gross.

Usual good taste and legality disclaimers apply.

black1blade
February 20th, 2016, 04:43 PM
It's still good but some things are very questionable. Why you no show a fight in saber vs assassin part 2 and why did he use 3 slash gaeshi the first time around?

Snow
February 20th, 2016, 04:43 PM
please stop

black1blade
February 20th, 2016, 04:44 PM
Why even bring it up if you feel it's exhausted?
On the train of thought of how they showed counter guardianship as being a magic anti terrorist dude.

Prix with a Silent X
February 20th, 2016, 04:44 PM
Is it 'if you want to have a place for pictures of a character, but actually treat it as a certain subset, you should make a place for the subset and not pretend that the superset and subset are the same'

Yes! Something like this.


You shouldn't be allowed to delete threads anyway if you're a regular user. lool

And iirc the reason Gil x Saber is haram is because "the real Saber would never go with Gil so it's rape" or something like that.

I mean this is an insane slippery slope. Even if they're not at all wrong without mitigating circumstances, it creates a kind of unsustainable precedent that cannot be applied across the board or to multiple characters. Even if fanon consensus agrees about a thing, that doesn't mean dissenting opinion disqualifies you as being a fan. Also, even as someone who doesn't just rage hate all shipping everywhere and enjoys it and as someone who tries to have reasonable opinions of characters I don't even like, shipping wars are stupid.

I don't think that this would even work due to how much it seems like fanclubs and people interested in particular ships are so utterly disdained everywhere else, but maybe, like, particular ships should have their own weird little clubs while general fanning of an individual character is different. But no, because people who Like A Character Correctly must have their favored otp or lack of ship confirmed by Official Groupthink.

GhostDIGIT
February 20th, 2016, 04:44 PM
Questions that have already been asked. In the end the answer is because it looked cool.

Prix with a Silent X
February 20th, 2016, 04:45 PM
I will never understand shipping, not because I'm above such a thing but because I just want everyone to like each other and bang and be happy

+ 100, actually

Strife ❤️
February 20th, 2016, 04:45 PM
Spinach got banned for it, I believe

Known troublemaker...

Historia
February 20th, 2016, 04:45 PM
because it looked cool.

always the answer

black1blade
February 20th, 2016, 04:45 PM
Meh meh meh.

Leftovers
February 20th, 2016, 04:46 PM
The policy regarding fanclubs that I will always push for is this:

If you post bad art, you're banned.

Historia
February 20th, 2016, 04:47 PM
and the once and future king... i dunno... i liked it but then again it annoyed me probably cause it made me hate gary sue lancelot even more

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bedivere x guinevere OTP

black1blade
February 20th, 2016, 04:47 PM
So info about HF in April or May right?

Leftovers
February 20th, 2016, 04:48 PM
bedivere x guinevere OTP

Consider, instead, Agravain/Guinevere.

Snow
February 20th, 2016, 04:48 PM
The policy regarding fanclubs that I will always push for is this:

If you post bad art, you're banned.
What is bad art though?

Frostyvale
February 20th, 2016, 04:49 PM
The policy regarding fanclubs that I will always push for is this:

If you post bad art, you're banned.
Can you actually ban people from posting in specific threads? Mechanically, that is.

2Bad
February 20th, 2016, 04:49 PM
What is bad art though?Art I don't like

SeiKeo
February 20th, 2016, 04:49 PM
What is bad art though?
Art that is bad.

Kirby
February 20th, 2016, 04:49 PM
What is bad art though?
The ones that look like they were came from MS Paint, or from a 7th grader's sketchbook.

Snow
February 20th, 2016, 04:50 PM
Art I don't like
I'll take this one.

Prix with a Silent X
February 20th, 2016, 04:50 PM
What is bad art though?

Bad art is art that fails to make any majority of its viewers feel anything.

Unskilled art is when u draw with no sense of scale, proportion, or symmetry, like what I do.

Historia
February 20th, 2016, 04:51 PM
Consider, instead, Agravain/Guinevere.

let's not

Leftovers
February 20th, 2016, 04:51 PM
What is bad art though?

Art I don't like
This but actually.


Can you actually ban people from posting in specific threads? Mechanically, that is.

Nope. If we ever get that feature it'll be named after AMW.

Frostyvale
February 20th, 2016, 04:51 PM
Bad art is art that fails to make any majority of its viewers feel anything.
By this definition, every piece of art that has ever generated outrage in Avalon is not bad art!

mAc Chaos
February 20th, 2016, 04:51 PM
what is smart art

Kirby
February 20th, 2016, 04:51 PM
Is it possible to force users to ignore other users, and bar them from seeing their posts?

SeiKeo
February 20th, 2016, 04:52 PM
what is smart art
Neon Genesis Evangelion.

Leftovers
February 20th, 2016, 04:52 PM
let's not

But, see, he's Morgan's spy, so this immediately adds at least 3 levels of NTR to the thing.

Snow
February 20th, 2016, 04:53 PM
http://i.imgur.com/wQkiWam.jpg
beaux arts

Leftovers
February 20th, 2016, 04:53 PM
Is it possible to force users to ignore other users, and bar them from seeing their posts?

Hey mAc, can you HACK into the DATABASE and change people's ignore lists?

Historia
February 20th, 2016, 04:55 PM
But, see, he's Morgan's spy, so this immediately adds at least 3 levels of NTR to the thing.

http://media1.giphy.com/media/BqXhUWMWNqFGM/giphy.gif

black1blade
February 20th, 2016, 04:55 PM
So if you put someone on ignore, can you still tell that they've posted in a thread and you can toggle weather you can see their post or not?

GhostDIGIT
February 20th, 2016, 04:56 PM
Bad art is art that fails to make any majority of its viewers feel anything.

Unskilled art is when u draw with no sense of scale, proportion, or symmetry, like what I do.

The entire art is something that makes you feel something train of thought really doesn't make sense to me. Like how people say videogames are art. Videogames are videogames which is better than art.

just Beamu
February 20th, 2016, 04:57 PM
So if you put someone on ignore, can you still tell that they've posted in a thread and you can toggle weather you can see their post or not?
Yes.

Snow
February 20th, 2016, 04:58 PM
In my rather professional and dignified opinion, parts of videogames can be art, but a videogame as a whole product is just that: a product.

Historia
February 20th, 2016, 04:59 PM
So if you put someone on ignore, can you still tell that they've posted in a thread and you can toggle weather you can see their post or not?

did it with bb just now

can confirm

SeiKeo
February 20th, 2016, 05:00 PM
In my rather professional and dignified opinion, parts of videogames can be art, but a videogame as a whole product is just that: a product.
Does product here indicate that commercialism compromises

black1blade
February 20th, 2016, 05:04 PM
did it with bb just now

can confirm

And actually people have been prodded by glowy names before for purposely stating they're putting a user in their ignore list, so uhhhhh
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Talking semantics about what is an isn't art is a rather pointless endeavour in my opinion. Sure video games can be art, I feel there is a lot of artistic merit in games like dark souls, the team ico games and journey.

Snow
February 20th, 2016, 05:04 PM
Does product here indicate that commercialism compromises

If I'm getting this than yes. Saying nothing commercial can be art would be pointless and false since the majority of important art was made for money, but I believe that at this specific moment in time most games can't really be called works of art. Some certainly can but that's best judged after a certain time period passes.

black1blade
February 20th, 2016, 05:05 PM
And some people make painting just for the sole purpose of those paintings being sold but it's still called art.

Historia
February 20th, 2016, 05:05 PM
.

you have no power here

SeiKeo
February 20th, 2016, 05:05 PM
If I'm getting this than yes. Saying nothing commercial can be art would be pointless and false since the majority of important art was made for money, but I believe that at this specific moment in time most games can't really be called works of art. Some certainly can but that's best judged after a certain time period passes.
Fine with agreeing although my angle on it would be that nobody has yet made a game that was properly art by way of being a game.

black1blade
February 20th, 2016, 05:08 PM
Sniped by the person I was putting point across too.

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Journey evoked more emotion in me than any painting ever has.

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I was crying at the end when I was playing it.

SeiKeo
February 20th, 2016, 05:09 PM
Journey evoked more emotion in me than any painting ever has.

okay, I could say this pretty mean

but this is not a statement about journey, this is a statement about you

Prix with a Silent X
February 20th, 2016, 05:09 PM
By this definition, every piece of art that has ever generated outrage in Avalon is not bad art!

I mean, would probably agree, even if I hated the art personally.

GhostDIGIT
February 20th, 2016, 05:11 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cblcrh5UsAEf7BA.jpg
lol

black1blade
February 20th, 2016, 05:11 PM
okay, I could say this pretty mean

but this is not a statement about journey, this is a statement about you
If you're going to say something say it, don't dance around it like an undead trying to get a backstab on a stupid hollow.

SeiKeo
February 20th, 2016, 05:12 PM
If you're going to say something say it, don't dance around it like an undead trying to get a backstab on a stupid hollow.
I said it, just without some frankly unnecessary toxicity tbh fam

Leftovers
February 20th, 2016, 05:12 PM
.

http://puu.sh/nffLw/81dd55c6b8.jpg

Historia
February 20th, 2016, 05:12 PM
sausage and spandex

is this your otp

GhostDIGIT
February 20th, 2016, 05:13 PM
Everyone X Everyone is my OTP.

black1blade
February 20th, 2016, 05:13 PM
I can appreciate paintings but I'm not one to be moved by a static image.

Snow
February 20th, 2016, 05:16 PM
Fine with agreeing although my angle on it would be that nobody has yet made a game that was properly art by way of being a game.
Reaching perfect understanding of a medium and utilizing it to its full potential is what it takes to make a work of art, by some definitions (Loos's, for example, but to be completely fair he was talking about architecture and he didn't consider architecture art, at least not in the traditional sense), and this has yet to happen in this particular medium. So yeah, I agree.

mAc Chaos
February 20th, 2016, 05:18 PM
Hey mAc, can you HACK into the DATABASE and change people's ignore lists?
yeah but dp has to give me db access

Historia
February 20th, 2016, 05:19 PM
Everyone X Everyone is my OTP.

i don't know who these two are


I can appreciate paintings but I'm not one to be moved by a static image.

i dun belive yew

Petrikow
February 20th, 2016, 05:20 PM
Reaching perfect understanding of a medium and utilizing it to its full potential is what it takes to make a work of art, by some definitions

no art in the entire world gg

just Beamu
February 20th, 2016, 05:21 PM
yeah but dp has to give me db access
Usurp power

All of it

black1blade
February 20th, 2016, 05:22 PM
dun is don't right?

Snow
February 20th, 2016, 05:22 PM
no art in the entire world gg
Maybe one day though.

Petrikow
February 20th, 2016, 05:23 PM
perfect is a concept outside of humanity's ability

Snow
February 20th, 2016, 05:25 PM
perfect is a concept outside of humanity's ability
On a level that's understandable and reachable to humans.

i can't words sometimes, okay

actually most of the time

Prix with a Silent X
February 20th, 2016, 05:25 PM
Reaching perfect understanding of a medium and utilizing it to its full potential is what it takes to make a work of art, by some definitions (Loos's, for example, but to be completely fair he was talking about architecture and he didn't consider architecture art, at least not in the traditional sense), and this has yet to happen in this particular medium. So yeah, I agree.

Architecture is just art you live in. And Georgian facades are a sin.

black1blade
February 20th, 2016, 05:26 PM
Yeah I hate it when people say that something must have no flaws to be a 10/10.

GhostDIGIT
February 20th, 2016, 05:27 PM
But that's a perfect score..

Petrikow
February 20th, 2016, 05:28 PM
imo art is simply the human attempts at imprinting the physical world with the abstract emotional core that forms our psyches

the quality is not a concern in defining it

Snow
February 20th, 2016, 05:29 PM
Architecture is just art you live in. And Georgian facades are a sin.

According to that guy, art's role is to be provocative and an instrument of social change. Architecture should provide comfort and serve a purpose, so it's naturally stagnant and conformist.

2Bad
February 20th, 2016, 05:30 PM
perfect is a concept outside of humanity's abilityAtsuko Tanaka exists tho?

Snow
February 20th, 2016, 05:30 PM
imo art is simply the human attempts at imprinting the physical world with the abstract emotional core that forms our psyches

the quality is not a concern in defining it
Depends on the interpretation. I don't agree with most interpretations and definitions of art, but they do exist and most make at least some sense.

Petrikow
February 20th, 2016, 05:31 PM
According to that guy, art's role is to be provocative and an instrument of social change. Architecture should provide comfort and serve a purpose, so it's naturally stagnant and conformist.

that sounds like marxism

ie bad


Atsuko Tanaka exists tho?

xd

SeiKeo
February 20th, 2016, 05:32 PM
According to that guy, art's role is to be provocative and an instrument of social change. Architecture should provide comfort and serve a purpose, so it's naturally stagnant and conformist.
that's some xd right there

Snow
February 20th, 2016, 05:36 PM
that sounds like marxism

ie bad

If it serves its purpose and gives positive feelings to people, does it really need the formal acknowledgement that it actually is art?

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that's some xd right there

oh i see we arrived back into the realm of meaningful posting

SeiKeo
February 20th, 2016, 05:37 PM
If it serves its purpose and gives positive feelings to people, does it really need the formal acknowledgement that it actually is art?

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oh i see we arrived back into the realm of meaningful posting
that is a statement with meaning

Petrikow
February 20th, 2016, 05:38 PM
If it serves its purpose and gives positive feelings to people, does it really need the formal acknowledgement that it actually is art?

having words is useful

what would we be without them

discussing their meaning is equally important because without that dialogue they wouldnt have any purpose

Snow
February 20th, 2016, 05:38 PM
that is a statement with meaning

pardon the peasant, then

SeiKeo
February 20th, 2016, 05:39 PM
pardon the peasant, then
I, as a person, vehemently protest the conceptual construction of art as a form which only has value or meaning in destruction of what we think to be known principles.

Snow
February 20th, 2016, 05:43 PM
I, as a person, vehemently protest the conceptual construction of art as a form which only has value or meaning in destruction of what we think to be known principles.

I wrote something a kinda important person said on the subject but that doesn't mean I 100% agree with them about it. I just thought to elaborate a bit since I already mentioned it.

And because I miss theory even though I kinda hated it at the time.

SeiKeo
February 20th, 2016, 05:43 PM
I wrote something a kinda important person said on the subject but that doesn't mean I 100% agree with them about it.
yeah, and so I'm criticizing it and not you

Prix with a Silent X
February 20th, 2016, 05:46 PM
I, as a person, vehemently protest the conceptual construction of art as a form which only has value or meaning in destruction of what we think to be known principles.

I don't really understanding what you're saying. Are you saying "everything is art if I feel like saying it is art even if it is conformist and arbitrary"? I'm not insulting your statement. I'm just trying to understand it.

And hey Snow, I'm lazy and don't remember the name of anything but maybe you know. I once saw this picture that was somewhere in Eastern Europe that had like the direct meeting of two buildings, one of which was this very squareish, standard, dull looking apartment building and the other which had these asymmetrical swoopy lines that delineated arbitrary areas without regard to the rooms inside and it was painted different colors around the swoopy lines. And basically I read something (years ago now) about how that this was like the meeting of two different styles and modes of thought that were happening in Europe at the time. And something something Soviets the utilitarians style won? I don't know if this is an accurate representation. I just wonder if you know what I'm talking about.

SeiKeo
February 20th, 2016, 05:48 PM
I don't really understanding what you're saying. Are you saying "everything is art if I feel like saying it is art even if it is conformist and arbitrary"? I'm not insulting your statement. I'm just trying to understand it.

Art is not equal to iconoclasm: that it gets perceived as such is a historical intersection.

Snow
February 20th, 2016, 05:51 PM
I don't really understanding what you're saying. Are you saying "everything is art if I feel like saying it is art even if it is conformist and arbitrary"? I'm not insulting your statement. I'm just trying to understand it.

And hey Snow, I'm lazy and don't remember the name of anything but maybe you know. I once saw this picture that was somewhere in Eastern Europe that had like the direct meeting of two buildings, one of which was this very squareish, standard, dull looking apartment building and the other which had these asymmetrical swoopy lines that delineated arbitrary areas without regard to the rooms inside and it was painted different colors around the swoopy lines. And basically I read something (years ago now) about how that this was like the meeting of two different styles and modes of thought that were happening in Europe at the time. And something something Soviets the utilitarians style won? I don't know if this is an accurate representation. I just wonder if you know what I'm talking about.
http://i.imgur.com/FupDvpa.jpg
Maybe?

Doesn't fit the description entirely but it's the first one I remembered.

SeiKeo
February 20th, 2016, 05:51 PM
that building is drunk

2Bad
February 20th, 2016, 05:55 PM
that building is drunk
It's a good drunk tho

Prix with a Silent X
February 20th, 2016, 06:30 PM
Art is not equal to iconoclasm: that it gets perceived as such is a historical intersection.

But iconoclasm destroys icons? Like, I'm trying to figure out what you are saying about art since you're saying that it is not solely something that does scathing commentary on perceived norms, from my understanding.


http://i.imgur.com/FupDvpa.jpg
Maybe?

Doesn't fit the description entirely but it's the first one I remembered.

This is not the particular thing I was referring to, but it is an acceptable example of what I was thinking of I think. Also I agree that this structure is intoxicated.

SeiKeo
February 20th, 2016, 06:32 PM
Like, I'm trying to figure out what you are saying about art since you're saying that it is not solely something that does scathing commentary on perceived norms, from my understanding.
Well yeah.

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http://i.imgur.com/oLV5FXgl.jpg

Snow
February 20th, 2016, 06:35 PM
This is not the particular thing I was referring to, but it is an acceptable example of what I was thinking of I think. Also I agree that this structure is intoxicated.

:( if I remember or come across something more fitting the description I'll let you know

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http://i.imgur.com/oLV5FXgl.jpg
photobomb

SeiKeo
February 20th, 2016, 06:37 PM
photobomb
we had like a foot and a half 2 days ago and now we're down to probably 2-3 inches of ground cover :V

Prix with a Silent X
February 20th, 2016, 06:44 PM
:( if I remember or come across something more fitting the description I'll let you know

No sad face! It's just that both buildings are kind of like... flush to each other? And one's kinda pink. But I like this drunk building.

just Beamu
February 20th, 2016, 06:44 PM
But I like this drunk building.
Alcoholism is bad

Leftovers
February 20th, 2016, 06:51 PM
[wobbling intensifies]

Spinach
February 20th, 2016, 06:51 PM
nice meme

That's no meme. It actually happened.

Frostyvale
February 20th, 2016, 06:52 PM
Well yeah.

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http://i.imgur.com/oLV5FXgl.jpg
What excellent shot composition. The horizontal lines of the windowsill perfectly offset the skewed verticals of that iron fence and the distant trees. It's placement is almost directly in the center, compliant with the rule of thirds, allowing the viewer to observe the background in full detail, and then the elegant glass bottle, before moving to the neutral left third of the image where the senses can take a second to recover from the excellent sight.

The bottle itself is a splash of color in a very dull image, and the eyes naturally track the transition from light to dark while reading the text. In addition, the reflection encapsulates the image as a whole, as it provides a truncated view of the outside before slowly turning from penumbra to shadow as it curves away from the light source.

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In the words of a dearly departed friend, "# s w a g"

SeiKeo
February 20th, 2016, 06:52 PM
What excellent shot composition. The horizontal lines of the windowsill perfectly offset the skewed verticals of that iron fence and the distant trees. It's placement is almost directly in the center, compliant with the rule of thirds, allowing the viewer to observe the background in full detail, and then the elegant glass bottle, before moving to the neutral left third of the image where the senses can take a second to recover from the excellent sight.

The bottle itself is a splash of color in a very dull image, and the eyes naturally track the transition from light to dark while reading the text. In addition, the reflection encapsulates the image as a whole, as it provides a truncated view of the outside before slowly turning from penumbra to shadow as it curves away from the light source.
Please, the bottle's too centered.

Frostyvale
February 20th, 2016, 06:54 PM
Please, the bottle's too centered.
The eye detects a very subtle offset to the right, implying an intentional opening of negative space.

Pillzman
February 20th, 2016, 06:55 PM
In the words of a dearly departed friend, "# s w a g"

good night sweet prince

SeiKeo
February 20th, 2016, 06:56 PM
The eye detects a very subtle offset to the right, implying an intentional opening of negative space.
http://i.imgur.com/mhvIYVA.png

There's no reason for the centerline of the bottle and the right third line to be the same.

Frostyvale
February 20th, 2016, 06:58 PM
Reason is, naturally, opposed to the new. A sudden moment of accidental grace produces a change in the shot, and therein is beauty.

Snow
February 20th, 2016, 06:58 PM
gosh make this bottle a bl banner now

it meets all the criteria

Strife ❤️
February 20th, 2016, 07:04 PM
http://i.imgur.com/Ygsb4kQ.jpg

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Witness how the inner spiral is enclosed, perfectly, within the confines of the bottle.

Frostyvale
February 20th, 2016, 07:08 PM
Alas the borders, a magnificent view, try jumping.

SeiKeo
February 20th, 2016, 07:09 PM
am I even allowed to drink this anymore?

Strife ❤️
February 20th, 2016, 07:10 PM
The Sky and the Cosmos are one.

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am I even allowed to drink this anymore?

Iconoclast.

Frostyvale
February 20th, 2016, 07:12 PM
Make contact with the bottle, and then drink deeply, accepting of all there is, and can be.

Kirby
February 20th, 2016, 07:12 PM
What can I drink or eat to keep me awake

We don't have coffee

SeiKeo
February 20th, 2016, 07:13 PM
What can I drink or eat to keep me awake

We don't have coffee
Hot tea, hot soup, coke, the other coke.

Strife ❤️
February 20th, 2016, 07:14 PM
Hot soup sounds like it will make you want to nap...

Frostyvale
February 20th, 2016, 07:14 PM
Plunge your hands into ice water and then eat your hands.

GhostDIGIT
February 20th, 2016, 07:15 PM
What an angry rant on canon defilement. Still love ya, Casey.

Kirby
February 20th, 2016, 07:15 PM
I need those.

Snow
February 20th, 2016, 07:16 PM
what is this yona and why do i like all the characters

SeiKeo
February 20th, 2016, 07:16 PM
I need those.
Do you have anything

Leftovers
February 20th, 2016, 07:17 PM
Yona is

somewhat boring

Kirby
February 20th, 2016, 07:18 PM
I have a water boiler.

Strife ❤️
February 20th, 2016, 07:18 PM
Splash cold water on your face

Then drink cold water

SeiKeo
February 20th, 2016, 07:18 PM
I have a water boiler.
Go out and get a soda or something, which has the advantage of it being cold.

Unless you live in sketch.

Kirby
February 20th, 2016, 07:20 PM
I just drank a soda and I'm still tired

Strife ❤️
February 20th, 2016, 07:22 PM
Nap

Leftovers
February 20th, 2016, 07:22 PM
Go out and run a mile.

Frostyvale
February 20th, 2016, 07:23 PM
Get some ice and then keep it in your mouth.

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You can't leave it sitting because your mouth will start to freeze. Thus you'll have to stay focused to move it around until it melts. Then get another piece.

Leftovers
February 20th, 2016, 07:23 PM
Do it you absolute noodle

Strife ❤️
February 20th, 2016, 07:24 PM
http://i.imgur.com/jxWn4N2.png

Frostyvale
February 20th, 2016, 07:25 PM
If you're really tired then get on your face and push until it hurts.

SeiKeo
February 20th, 2016, 07:26 PM
.
*files away into kancolle subfolder called "Americans"*

Frostyvale
February 20th, 2016, 07:26 PM
As a side effect, you'll become healthier which will benefit you greatly when you flee Kiyohime.

GhostDIGIT
February 20th, 2016, 07:26 PM
Family problems going on in Mexico. Fuck.

Kirby
February 20th, 2016, 07:26 PM
Anime Isn't Real

Frostyvale
February 20th, 2016, 07:27 PM
Anime Isn't Real
A metaphorical struggle, fleeing your delusions

Strife ❤️
February 20th, 2016, 07:28 PM
*files away into kancolle subfolder called "Americans"*

Post a good American

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<3 monarch

SeiKeo
February 20th, 2016, 07:31 PM
Post a good American

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<3 monarch
I post Tennessee every time

http://i.imgur.com/6ww3T0b.jpg

Strife ❤️
February 20th, 2016, 07:36 PM
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/kancolle/images/2/2f/SenF4cx.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150704095708

Snow
February 20th, 2016, 07:47 PM
I just drank a soda and I'm still tired

Wash your hair, if you have it.

Spinach
February 20th, 2016, 07:48 PM
Kirby sold his hair.

SeiKeo
February 20th, 2016, 07:48 PM
i opened it

GhostDIGIT
February 20th, 2016, 07:51 PM
Kirby sold his hair.
Must've been really good hair.

SeiKeo
February 20th, 2016, 07:59 PM
well this was an interesting experiment but I don't think it worked

Petrikow
February 20th, 2016, 09:42 PM
where are the posts houston

2Bad
February 20th, 2016, 09:54 PM
Far Cry Primal looks terrible, but maybe the inevitable next Far Cry will be as good as BD or 4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi8Xoc4EInE)

I doubt it because once Ubisoft has murdered a series it tends to shamble around in an increasingly rotted form until the end of time, but hey

GhostDIGIT
February 20th, 2016, 09:54 PM
With the fun, gone.

Leftovers
February 20th, 2016, 10:31 PM
http://puu.sh/nfA49/693de94bf3.jpg

3次元の私

Rafflesiac
February 20th, 2016, 10:43 PM
cold turkey, left

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COLD TURKEY

Prix with a Silent X
February 20th, 2016, 10:50 PM
Hey I accidentally started watching Yona. I liked the first two episodes (what I've seen so far). Check your cynicism at the door.

LJ3
February 20th, 2016, 10:51 PM
It's good.

Watch Akagami too.

just Beamu
February 20th, 2016, 10:52 PM
Accidentally how?

GhostDIGIT
February 20th, 2016, 10:55 PM
Must write actual fic before thinking of awesome fights.

Leftovers
February 20th, 2016, 10:57 PM
cold turkey, left

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COLD TURKEY

これ、ある種の駄菓子なのか

2Bad
February 20th, 2016, 11:02 PM
Hey I accidentally started watching Yona. I liked the first two episodes (what I've seen so far). Check your cynicism at the door.
get fucking hype for haircuts

Leftovers
February 20th, 2016, 11:26 PM
http://puu.sh/nfD2H/acfe2fe048.jpg

Petrikow
February 20th, 2016, 11:40 PM
^ literally all my blogs actually

Spinach
February 21st, 2016, 12:03 AM
http://puu.sh/nfD2H/acfe2fe048.jpg

Izaya, abayo.

>Izaya silently processes that response

Leftovers
February 21st, 2016, 12:43 AM
Izaya, abayo.

>Izaya silently processes that response

fuck I deleted the episode and can't check but he didn't smile for once, right

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I haven't been this excited for anime in quite a while

Spinach
February 21st, 2016, 12:50 AM
fuck I deleted the episode and can't check but he didn't smile for once, right

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I haven't been this excited for anime in quite a while

http://i.imgur.com/NKwlFve.png

The time for smiles is over.

Leftovers
February 21st, 2016, 01:02 AM
遊びの時間は。。。


。。。終わったねえ。

Kelnish
February 21st, 2016, 01:05 AM
http://i.imgur.com/NKwlFve.png

The time for smiles is over.

Metal.

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Maine dlc for fallout 4. Its a thing. Im aroused.

Petrikow
February 21st, 2016, 01:17 AM
Metal.

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Maine dlc for fallout 4. Its a thing. Im aroused.

wow its actually true

2Bad
February 21st, 2016, 01:18 AM
finally, a game mediocre enough to accurately simulate maine

SeiKeo
February 21st, 2016, 01:19 AM
finally, a game mediocre enough to accurately simulate maine
​.

Kelnish
February 21st, 2016, 01:28 AM
finally, a game mediocre enough to accurately simulate maine

Youre not wrong and i hate you for it. Incoming LOL STEPHEN KING AND MURDER SHE WROTE REFERENCES GUYS.

2Bad
February 21st, 2016, 01:29 AM
I'm not a 45 year old woman so I was not going to reference Murder She Wrote, and I'm not totally dead inside so there goes Stephen King

All you've done is string yourself up friend

Kelnish
February 21st, 2016, 01:36 AM
I'm not a 45 year old woman so I was not going to reference Murder She Wrote, and I'm not totally dead inside so there goes Stephen King

All you've done is string yourself up friend

I was talking about dlc content. And as a 45 yr ole woman who is dead inside i am offended sir.

Ivan The Mouse
February 21st, 2016, 02:08 AM
I feel like I want puke and I dunno why.

Peanut-007
February 21st, 2016, 02:18 AM
http://i.imgur.com/XFbVVPG.png
Lets see where this goes. FF.Net fame here I come.

GhostDIGIT
February 21st, 2016, 02:22 AM
Pic
Lets see where this goes. FF.Net fame here I come.
What the hell?

Just read three chapters of Fight/Knight. Goddamn, Tobi is actually pretty great at writing.

mAc Chaos
February 21st, 2016, 02:24 AM
make sure to actually comment on it

GhostDIGIT
February 21st, 2016, 02:25 AM
I will just let me finish reading everything that's out.