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Prix with a Silent X
March 24th, 2016, 06:38 PM
I put it as a preview because FF.net doesn't allow MA+ content. Even if people had to search and report it, I wasn't gonna take that risk.

I've heard of AO3, but I've never visited.

I was worried about this too but Arashi convinced me not to worry about mine.

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Also AO3 is great imo about giving you control and categorizing options galore and they allow virtually all kinds of content with options you're encouraged to use for very specific kinds of content people want to be warned about up front, but they're optional, and you can devise your own warnings or such with tags. The problem is it's more passive archive than community, so even though it has excellent search features if you wander there to look for content, I think you get a smaller audience because people have to come looking. My best luck on the site has been in connection with fic exchanges where you typically get at least one good comment from your recipient and if you do well, more.

SeiKeo
March 24th, 2016, 06:39 PM
Also AO3's fic uploading is awful.

Raylen Cypher
March 24th, 2016, 06:40 PM
I was worried about this too but Arashi convinced me not to worry about mine.

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Also AO3 is great imo about giving you control and categorizing options galore and they allow virtually all kinds of content with options you're encouraged to use for very specific kinds of content people want to be warned about up front, but they're optional, and you can devise your own warnings or such with tags. The problem is it's more passive archive than community, so even though it has excellent search features if you wander there to look for content, I think you get a smaller audience because people have to come looking. My best luck on the site has been in connection with fic exchanges where you typically get at least one good comment from your recipient and if you do well, more.

Just the possibility of it was not something I'm risking. Kinda like YT's copyright catastrophe right now.

That's cool, I'll definitely give it a look.

Kirby
March 24th, 2016, 06:40 PM
How much worse is it than FFN.net's?

Raylen Cypher
March 24th, 2016, 06:41 PM
Is it not instantaneous like FFN?

GhostDIGIT
March 24th, 2016, 06:42 PM
I find Ao3's excessive categorizing unbearable.

Snow
March 24th, 2016, 06:43 PM
is this anger or alcohol

Neither

Strife ❤️
March 24th, 2016, 06:45 PM
uh hello?????

i may have the same taste as an asian woman but that doesn't count

SeiKeo
March 24th, 2016, 06:47 PM
i may have the same taste as an asian woman but that doesn't count
yeah and omega is also 100% swiss, not a screw or pinion

Prix with a Silent X
March 24th, 2016, 06:52 PM
Also AO3's fic uploading is awful.

I find it easier? Devil you know, I guess. You could clarify though.

Gl❀w
March 24th, 2016, 07:02 PM
btw i'm finally watching knk bye kids

Historia
March 24th, 2016, 07:03 PM
I just logged in to bypass youtube's content warning lock to see some kid get fatally stabbed in the neck, don't mind me...

Arashi_Leonhart
March 24th, 2016, 07:04 PM
If you're looking for SUDDENLY 3000 VIEWS AND 150 COMMENTS you're not going to get them if you're a new author. Or old author that doesn't write in the summary "Shirou haremizes DxD cast and beats down Oniisama in this 3-way cross."

Historia
March 24th, 2016, 07:07 PM
Sad how a catfight turns into an all out street brawl with bats and knives and cars running over people, only for the single death to be the kid who tried to stop it.

Prix with a Silent X
March 24th, 2016, 07:07 PM
I just logged in to bypass youtube's content warning lock to see some kid get fatally stabbed in the neck, don't mind me...

Um. Shrapnel, are you okay? Like I'm not joking that's kind of messed up that's somebody's life. Why would you watch that???

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Sad how a catfight turns into an all out street brawl with bats and knives and cars running over people, only for the single death to be the kid who tried to stop it.

Wow that's awful and depressing.

SeiKeo
March 24th, 2016, 07:07 PM
btw i'm finally watching knk bye kids
oh good how did you feel

Raylen Cypher
March 24th, 2016, 07:08 PM
If you're looking for SUDDENLY 3000 VIEWS AND 150 COMMENTS you're not going to get them if you're a new author. Or old author that doesn't write in the summary "Shirou haremizes DxD cast and beats down Oniisama in this 3-way cross."

I never expected instant attention of course. It was just the guidelines and rules disallowing MA content from being hosted on FFN.

I think any harem that goes over the number 3 is doomed.

Prix with a Silent X
March 24th, 2016, 07:08 PM
If you're looking for SUDDENLY 3000 VIEWS AND 150 COMMENTS you're not going to get them if you're a new author. Or old author that doesn't write in the summary "Shirou haremizes DxD cast and beats down Oniisama in this 3-way cross."

And no, I know. I am whining prematurely, and I'm usually happy if I get a couple. I just, in the past, have gotten them a bit faster on ff.net, but it's not a huge deal.

Raylen Cypher
March 24th, 2016, 07:09 PM
btw i'm finally watching knk bye kids

I watched the 7th movie 2 weeks ago, hue.

Gl❀w
March 24th, 2016, 07:10 PM
oh good how did you feel

like my integrity has been compromised

Raylen Cypher
March 24th, 2016, 07:12 PM
Prix, I just looked at AO3.

So many categories, so much to explore.

GhostDIGIT
March 24th, 2016, 07:13 PM
If you're looking for SUDDENLY 3000 VIEWS AND 150 COMMENTS you're not going to get them if you're a new author. Or old author that doesn't write in the summary "Shirou haremizes DxD cast and beats down Oniisama in this 3-way cross."
DLH was a 3-way cross?

Strife ❤️
March 24th, 2016, 07:16 PM
yeah and omega is also 100% swiss, not a screw or pinion

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/23/opinion/23thomas.html?_r=0

Made in China on the fly


Those prices are worth it, we are told, because these goods are handmade in Europe by artisans. In fact, that is not always the case.

Not all luxury brands do the bait and switch... Louis Vuitton...churns out its $3 billion worth of leather goods each year in its company-owned factories in France, Spain and Southern California

gottem

But yeah I'm not surprised that a lot of stuff is a rip off.

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like my integrity has been compromised

The true Type-Moon starts here

Raylen Cypher
March 24th, 2016, 07:16 PM
DLH was a 3-way cross?

At least we know what Arashi has been reading in his off-time.

SeiKeo
March 24th, 2016, 07:18 PM
like my integrity has been compromised
excuse me

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http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/23/opinion/23thomas.html?_r=0

Made in China on the fly



gottem

But yeah I'm not surprised that a lot of stuff is a rip off.

gj on your wallet made by mexicans who live in tijuana. i think

Historia
March 24th, 2016, 07:20 PM
Why would you watch that???

Why not?


Wow that's awful and depressing.

All you see is the kid running in front of the camera (taken from my iphone hurdur) clutching his neck with a bunch of red spurting out.

In the horribly written news report I'm reading (being about his death from excessive blood loss--the incident having happened two days prior), it says he managed to get into his car, drive off, find a police officer, get help, etc. but by then he'd, well... lost too much blood.

and a comment that explains what happened better than the article (common, with the quality of Yahoo reporting):


Video recorded from bystanders show girls fighting, boys hitting each other with bats, and the driver of a Dodge Charger trying to run over several of the teens. At one point the driver drives into a residential yard, spinning wheels in the grass and narrowly missing those standing nearby.

“ That’s why we’re taking an aggressive stance and charging everyone with murder …” ----- said during a Wednesday interview. “Anytime you have a mother driving her child to something like this, you have a problem.”

---- was not the only adult charged in the case. Police also arrested ----’s son -----. -----’ arm was broken when hit by someone swinging a metal bat.

Authorities also arrested a mother and daughter – ----- and -----, ages 35 and 18.

---- told police she tried to drive ----- to the hospital after he was stabbed in the neck, but that when another fight broke out at the stop sign in the subdivision, --- took the wheel and tried to drive himself. He sought help from a Richmond County marshal stopped at Morgan and Deans Bridge roads.

By the time deputies arrived, everyone had scattered. ----- said it wasn’t until those involved saw ----- blood that the fight ended.

“That’s when reality started to hit, and that is what’s so sad,” the sheriff said. “It’s not when a driver was trying to hit someone with a car or hit someone with a bat.”

Strife ❤️
March 24th, 2016, 07:20 PM
build
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Gl❀w
March 24th, 2016, 07:20 PM
excuse me


how am i supposed to maintain my dignity as a filthy fate casual when


The true Type-Moon starts here

SeiKeo
March 24th, 2016, 07:22 PM
how am i supposed to maintain my dignity as a filthy fate casual when
you're watching the movies so you're still basically like entry level, you know, like the young adult literature of Type Moon art

Historia
March 24th, 2016, 07:22 PM
Fucking dumbasses.

Gl❀w
March 24th, 2016, 07:23 PM
you're watching the movies so you're still basically like entry level, you know, like the young adult literature of Type Moon art

i'm only doing what dullahan told me to do

Arashi_Leonhart
March 24th, 2016, 07:24 PM
DLH was a 3-way cross?

What's DLH?

Historia
March 24th, 2016, 07:25 PM
Anyway, Prix... I think if you just give Empty Gold a T Rating it'd get more viewership.

That, and maybe you shouldn't have posted it all at once, but... ah...

SeiKeo
March 24th, 2016, 07:25 PM
i'm only doing what dullahan told me to do
U fucked up

You
March 24th, 2016, 07:26 PM
If you're looking for SUDDENLY 3000 VIEWS AND 150 COMMENTS you're not going to get them if you're a new author. Or old author that doesn't write in the summary "Shirou haremizes DxD cast and beats down Oniisama in this 3-way cross."
so that's the secret. brb.

GhostDIGIT
March 24th, 2016, 07:27 PM
What's DLH?
A Demon Lord's Hero

Kirby
March 24th, 2016, 07:27 PM
Secret?

Prix with a Silent X
March 24th, 2016, 07:31 PM
Anyway, Prix... I think if you just give Empty Gold a T Rating it'd get more viewership.

That, and maybe you shouldn't have posted it all at once, but... ah...

I thought about holding off but if I'm gonna update it anyway... I'm doing my staggered stuff on AO3 but for mentioned reasons it'll be lucky if I ever get to have much actual feedback there.

I'm bad at things.

Also that story was so sad and I would not watch wow.

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Also I can't give it a T rating.

Gl❀w
March 24th, 2016, 07:33 PM
Also I can't give it a T rating.
Give it an M rating

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put "possible lemon" in the summary

Neir
March 24th, 2016, 07:34 PM
probable lemon will get more readers

Arashi_Leonhart
March 24th, 2016, 07:34 PM
A Demon Lord's Hero

Honestly I don't actually pay attention to Nasu fanfiction anyplace but here (when I do pay attention to Nasu fanfiction at all) and only know of it because people complain about it here. For my guilty pleasures in reading I usually just look up actual light novel translations, heh.

Prix with a Silent X
March 24th, 2016, 07:34 PM
Give it an M rating

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put "possible lemon" in the summary

It's already M, and I think Shrapnel was saying it might help if I lowered it

Arashi_Leonhart
March 24th, 2016, 07:35 PM
put "possible lemon" in the summary

No. They might actually give a strike for that.

Raylen Cypher
March 24th, 2016, 07:35 PM
I think it's better to complete your fanfic series as soon as you can. That way readers will know the fic won't be abandoned or take too long to update. It's like building up a credit history, literally.

Snow
March 24th, 2016, 07:36 PM
I got Popstar Ahri for freeeee <3

GhostDIGIT
March 24th, 2016, 07:36 PM
Honestly I don't actually pay attention to Nasu fanfiction anyplace but here (when I do pay attention to Nasu fanfiction at all) and only know of it because people complain about it here. For my guilty pleasures in reading I usually just look up actual light novel translations, heh.
Smart man.

Prix with a Silent X
March 24th, 2016, 07:38 PM
No. They might actually give a strike for that.

That's what I was worried about.

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I think it's better to complete your fanfic series as soon as you can. That way readers will know the fic won't be abandoned or take too long to update. It's like building up a credit history, literally.

That's true, which is why I've had this chapter fic goal that's gone undone so far.

Arashi_Leonhart
March 24th, 2016, 07:39 PM
That's what I was worried about.

The few times they've run through a massive purge, all they did was quick search summaries for specific alarming words, kick those stories and give out strikes to their authors. I think someone, was it Velsper? that got hit by something because his story had one of those words in the summary even though 100% no sexytimes content.

Meanwhile here I am with Sion drinking semen to resist vampiric urges...

Gl❀w
March 24th, 2016, 07:40 PM
No. They might actually give a strike for that.

ff.net has sure changed since i was a freshman in high school :/

GhostDIGIT
March 24th, 2016, 07:41 PM
Speaking of stuff with possible porn in its summary, I read the first chapter of a fic where, for some reason, Rin has Shirou show off his RM to gain some face in Clocktower. Shirou ends up getting dragged off by enforcers and Rin needs to find someone willing to have "mana transfers" with her and Saber. It was incredibly stupid.

Historia
March 24th, 2016, 07:42 PM
That's what I was worried about.

Nah. If pokemon fic can have this:


Warning: contains Yaoi rape, gang rape, and pokemonxhuman

with a title like "Multiple Penetrations"

Well...

Arashi_Leonhart
March 24th, 2016, 07:42 PM
ff.net has sure changed since i was a freshman in high school :/

Yes, and it has changed even more from when I was a seventh grader.

Raylen Cypher
March 24th, 2016, 07:42 PM
That's true, which is why I've had this chapter fic goal that's gone undone so far.

Hah, you and me both. It's about to be a month since I've updated mine. My quotas are smaller now so it aggravates me that I haven't pushed out a couple updates within the time-frame.

Passion is a wily spirit.

GhostDIGIT
March 24th, 2016, 07:42 PM
ff.net has sure changed since i was a freshman in high school :/
The Great Purge changed everything.

Prix with a Silent X
March 24th, 2016, 07:42 PM
ff.net has sure changed since i was a freshman in high school :/

Right? I actually remember the days of Cassandra Clare operating in plain daylight without getting paid for her dark deeds.

Arashi_Leonhart
March 24th, 2016, 07:49 PM
Anyway, nobody cared about my stuff a ton for a long while. And I only even imported it here mostly because of IRUN and Tech. Unless you write the standard shounen-y trash you probably won't find an immediate crowd either.

Prix with a Silent X
March 24th, 2016, 07:49 PM
Nah. If pokemon fic can have this:



with a title like "Multiple Penetrations"

Well...

I mean... yeah... but also I don't know if I want to forecast that much. Hm.

You
March 24th, 2016, 07:50 PM
FF.net really needs to consolidate the Nasuverse into one category.

Zurvan
March 24th, 2016, 07:51 PM
The fight for readers goes on.
How low will you go?

Historia
March 24th, 2016, 07:51 PM
FF.net really needs to consolidate the Nasuverse into one category.

Email them.

Raylen Cypher
March 24th, 2016, 07:51 PM
Anyway, nobody cared about my stuff a ton for a long while. And I only even imported it here mostly because of IRUN and Tech. Unless you write the standard shounen-y trash you probably won't find an immediate crowd either.

If I may ask, do you plan to write any original fiction in the future?

Prix with a Silent X
March 24th, 2016, 07:52 PM
Anyway, nobody cared about my stuff a ton for a long while. And I only even imported it here mostly because of IRUN and Tech. Unless you write the standard shounen-y trash you probably won't find an immediate crowd either.

Other fanfiction communities I've been in before are much different and never really take to anything that involves canon typical action. I've never been particularly popular anywhere and don't expect to be. That's not what I'm doing when I wish for any feedback, I think?

I3uster
March 24th, 2016, 07:52 PM
top dog arashi started out small...

how inspiring

SeiKeo
March 24th, 2016, 07:52 PM
top dog arashi started out small...

how inspiring
you know this only works if you update right

GhostDIGIT
March 24th, 2016, 07:53 PM
FF.net really needs to consolidate the Nasuverse into one category.
Yeah, Fate/Stay Night for everything Tsuki, Rakkyo, and not to mention Fate.

You
March 24th, 2016, 07:54 PM
Email them.
I refuse.
To gain my approval they must read my mind from their desks and know to give me what I want.

I3uster
March 24th, 2016, 07:54 PM
you know this only works if you update right

are you the man to point fingers here

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what the fuck was her servant

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still mad 2016

Arashi_Leonhart
March 24th, 2016, 07:54 PM
If I may ask, do you plan to write any original fiction in the future?

Yes. (http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/989-Knight-of-the-Princess)

Zurvan
March 24th, 2016, 07:55 PM
But do you plan to finish all your current projects?

SeiKeo
March 24th, 2016, 07:55 PM
are you the man to point fingers here

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what the fuck was her servant

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still mad 2016
yea i am

GhostDIGIT
March 24th, 2016, 07:56 PM
What do you guys think of fanfiction being comparable to actual fiction?

Snow
March 24th, 2016, 07:57 PM
What do you guys think of fanfiction being comparable to actual fiction?

It's there to satisfy needs, mostly.

Zurvan
March 24th, 2016, 07:57 PM
I've read fanfics that are than "actual" fiction

Raylen Cypher
March 24th, 2016, 07:58 PM
Yes. (http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/989-Knight-of-the-Princess)

Oh wow, this is old, and possibly done? Even if it's a draft, I'll still read it.

Logged for copyright?

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What do you guys think of fanfiction being comparable to actual fiction?

Elaborate.

GhostDIGIT
March 24th, 2016, 08:00 PM
Elaborate.
Does fanfiction have any right to be held valid as a work of literature as much as an original story.

Historia
March 24th, 2016, 08:01 PM
What do you guys think of fanfiction being comparable to actual fiction?

Morte d'Arthur is trash.

GhostDIGIT
March 24th, 2016, 08:02 PM
Yeah, yeah, books can be shit like anything else.

I3uster
March 24th, 2016, 08:03 PM
i dont like having this debate because it ends up in funny avenues of people equating their two gay countries fucking to adaption of historic events by playwrights

but basically nothing stops you from beating out the average YA author in prose, plotting and craftsmanship if you write FF, some people even hit higher, nothing inherent in the medium means your shit has to be bad

what makes it bad is that its unfiltered, the editing is less well executed (lol finished manuscripts for ff what is this shit) and often done by people that either started out or take bad advice and thus dont develop

Snow
March 24th, 2016, 08:04 PM
I feel that when you write ff you don't have to deal with difficult things like worldbuilding from scratch and believable character development, and the aspect of having to 'sell' your work to the audience is gone since the audience is already probably sold if they end up finding your work in the first place. Deceptive.

Gl❀w
March 24th, 2016, 08:04 PM
Does fanfiction have any right to be held valid as a work of literature as much as an original story.

that depends. Do you consider a great deal of modern published fiction to be valid fiction given that it is a take on an established classic?

For quick example, do you consider any biblical fiction to be valid fiction considering that it is basically officially condoned bible fanfic?

Historia
March 24th, 2016, 08:05 PM
Jesus worst Mary Sue.

GhostDIGIT
March 24th, 2016, 08:06 PM
that depends. Do you consider a great deal of modern published fiction to be valid fiction given that it is a take on an established classic?

For quick example, do you consider any biblical fiction to be valid fiction considering that it is basically officially condoned bible fanfic?
No, not really.

Gl❀w
March 24th, 2016, 08:06 PM
I feel that when you write ff you don't have to deal with difficult things like worldbuilding from scratch and believable character development, and the aspect of having to 'sell' your work to the audience is gone since the audience is already probably sold if they end up finding your work in the first place. Deceptive.

excuse me while i go sit in a corner with my wuvia fanfic that someday will be Going Places

Historia
March 24th, 2016, 08:08 PM
I feel that when you write ff you don't have to deal with difficult things like worldbuilding from scratch and believable character development, and the aspect of having to 'sell' your work to the audience is gone since the audience is already probably sold if they end up finding your work in the first place. Deceptive.

I try to.

SeiKeo
March 24th, 2016, 08:08 PM
excuse me while i go sit in a corner with my wuvia fanfic that someday will be Going Places
mexico? france? wghere's the honeymoon

Prix with a Silent X
March 24th, 2016, 08:09 PM
What do you guys think of fanfiction being comparable to actual fiction?

I think they accomplish different things. They can be of comparable quality, some good and some bad in both. I think there's certainly value to creating original concepts and characters people can attach to, which makes original fiction involve a talent fanfiction authors don't necessarily have to develop. On the other hand, I don't think fanfiction is worth less for the skills it can and does employ. I would easily rate my favorite fic among my favorite books, and I think the fact that it was so creative and surprising with what it did to the original canon has a lot to do with why I love it.

I have no great desire to write original fiction. I thought I wanted to, but when I started to be in a position to do it even with guidance (I did a creative writing thesis for my English honors program) I figured out that I have other, greater interests than original worldbuilding. But that doesn't mean I don't want to write or become more skillful. Writing fanfiction is how I interact with and express my love of a work. I just want different things from my writing than someone who's using fanfiction to develop skills to become more competent for "moving on" to original fiction. It's fine to do that but it's not me.

Snow
March 24th, 2016, 08:09 PM
I try to.
You try to what?

Gl❀w
March 24th, 2016, 08:09 PM
mexico? france? wghere's the honeymoon

find out next time on dragon ball z

Raylen Cypher
March 24th, 2016, 08:11 PM
Does fanfiction have any right to be held valid as a work of literature as much as an original story.

What exactly are you asking? The prose, editing, worldbuilding, character development, etc. or whether fanfiction infringes on the copyright of the original fiction it's based off?

Historia
March 24th, 2016, 08:12 PM
You try to what?


worldbuilding from scratch and believable character development

.

In my case, fleshing out a world that really wasn't before.

Arashi_Leonhart
March 24th, 2016, 08:12 PM
Oh wow, this is old, and possibly done? Even if it's a draft, I'll still read it.

Logged for copyright?

I'm on like my fifth or sixth draft since then and I'm reevaluating whether I even want to start with that story in particular. It's probably more likely that I'll have a done modern fantasy story to completion first, and if you want a draft of that, I actually practiced quite a bit with ideas for it in Shared Resonance.

Prix with a Silent X
March 24th, 2016, 08:13 PM
No, not really.

Yeah, no one considers Paradise Lost or the Inferno valid fiction. No one considers anything based on Sherlock Holmes its own standalone work...

You
March 24th, 2016, 08:13 PM
fanfiction infringes on the copyright of the original fiction it's based off?
depends on the copyright of the original fanfiction.
I know TM actually allows you to take quotes from their works for your fanfic and whatever.
Just not "long sentences"
define "long sentences"

Snow
March 24th, 2016, 08:13 PM
.

In my case, fleshing out a world that really wasn't before.

That's still not from scratch. Something was there before, even if it's just a few sentences. Plus you're drawing from a preexisting fanbase.

GhostDIGIT
March 24th, 2016, 08:14 PM
What exactly are you asking? The prose, editing, worldbuilding, character development, etc. or whether fanfiction infringes on the copyright of the original fiction it's based off?
It's pretty much about the actual concept.

Snow
March 24th, 2016, 08:15 PM
Could be argued that most concepts are preexisting and you never really start anything from scratch though.

Raylen Cypher
March 24th, 2016, 08:15 PM
I'm on like my fifth or sixth draft since then and I'm reevaluating whether I even want to start with that story in particular. It's probably more likely that I'll have a done modern fantasy story to completion first, and if you want a draft of that, I actually practiced quite a bit with ideas for it in Shared Resonance.

What were you redoing, characters or concepts?

The one lemon fic that had ShirouxSion?

GhostDIGIT
March 24th, 2016, 08:15 PM
Yeah, no one considers Paradise Lost or the Inferno valid fiction. No one considers anything based on Sherlock Holmes its own standalone work...
My opinion on the matter is now suddenly everyone's?

Gl❀w
March 24th, 2016, 08:15 PM
That's still not from scratch. Something was there before, even if it's just a few sentences. Plus you're drawing from a preexisting fanbase.

RIP Shakespeare's collective works

Historia
March 24th, 2016, 08:16 PM
That's still not from scratch. Something was there before, even if it's just a few sentences. Plus you're drawing from a preexisting fanbase.

Close enough yo.

Snow
March 24th, 2016, 08:18 PM
RIP Shakespeare's collective works

I don't think we can blanket the entire history of literature, varied and contextual as it is, with an opinion on modern fanfiction.

Arashi_Leonhart
March 24th, 2016, 08:20 PM
What were you redoing, characters or concepts?

The one lemon fic that had ShirouxSion?

Bit of both. Some characters are being collapsed into other characters, reworked, or removed entirely, and some of the ideas in it are getting shredded up and rearranged. A fair amount of the plot has changed too.

And yes, I have a modern urban fantasyish story about a guy magician artificer and a girl that inherits his magic while trying to save the world.

Snow
March 24th, 2016, 08:21 PM
Close enough yo.
I'm just saying it as it is.

Gl❀w
March 24th, 2016, 08:23 PM
I don't think we can blanket the entire history of literature, varied and contextual as it is, with an opinion on modern fanfiction.

Okay, but, massively popular author Gregory Maguire is basically known for his Wizard of Oz fanfic "Wicked".

Extremely respected fantasy author Mercedes Lackey has a whole series of books that are reinterpretations of classic fairy tales.

I'm not saying every modern fanfic is publishable-level stuff, or even close to it. I'm just saying modern, published fanfic that isn't E. L. James does exist.

Snow
March 24th, 2016, 08:24 PM
Okay, but, massively popular author Gregory Maguire is basically known for his Wizard of Oz fanfic "Wicked".

Extremely respected fantasy author Mercedes Lackey has a whole series of books that are reinterpretations of classic fairy tales.

I'm not saying every modern fanfic is publishable-level stuff, or even close to it. I'm just saying modern, published fanfic that isn't E. L. James does exist.
I'm not saying it's of lesser quality, I'm just saying it's some form of a fanfic.

SeiKeo
March 24th, 2016, 08:25 PM
this conversation never amounts to anything

Snow
March 24th, 2016, 08:26 PM
this conversation never amounts to anything

oh, many don't

Raylen Cypher
March 24th, 2016, 08:27 PM
Bit of both. Some characters are being collapsed into other characters, reworked, or removed entirely, and some of the ideas in it are getting shredded up and rearranged. A fair amount of the plot has changed too.

I'm trying to figure out how my first novel's plot will go about right now. Base Worldbuilding is halfway done, and then there's the details to enrich the entire universe. Coming up with new terminology is a real pain.


And yes, I have a modern urban fantasyish story about a guy magician artificer and a girl that inherits his magic while trying to save the world.

For your original story or is this a self-depreciating commentary of the fanfic because it doesn't follow canon?

Gl❀w
March 24th, 2016, 08:31 PM
oh good, lets start movie 3 with a bit of rape

how edgy

You
March 24th, 2016, 08:32 PM
Okay, but, massively popular author Gregory Maguire is basically known for his Wizard of Oz fanfic "Wicked".
The Wicked Years is a good series although I didn't really get the third book.

SeiKeo
March 24th, 2016, 08:32 PM
oh good, lets start movie 3 with a bit of rape

how edgy
yeah shame it's not fate isn't it

Raylen Cypher
March 24th, 2016, 08:33 PM
It's pretty much about the actual concept.

The quality varies whether it's fiction or fanfiction. Whether it's valid or not is an odd and contradicting question. Fanfiction wouldn't exist without fiction. The only thing that matters is if you're infringing on the copyright by claiming it's yours and you're making money off it.

Snow
March 24th, 2016, 08:33 PM
makes a sliver more sense than the Sakura situation imo

Arashi_Leonhart
March 24th, 2016, 08:33 PM
For your original story or is this a self-depreciating commentary of the fanfic because it doesn't follow canon?

Both, as that's what I mean about Shared Resonance being practice. It shares a general plot with this story.

You
March 24th, 2016, 08:35 PM
Popular mystery novelist Laurie R. King's Mary Russell series is set in the world of Sherlock Holmes where the main protagonist is his wife and it's a terrible fanfic-tier series why did I ever read them in the first place.

black1blade
March 24th, 2016, 08:36 PM
Oh god the shit storm surrounding Erased at the moment reminds of me of the shit around UBW- good times. It's especially bad on Digibro's most recent video about how it was never actually very good in the first place (which I would be inclined to agree with to an extent although I did genuinely find that the hinazuki episodes where good).

Snow
March 24th, 2016, 08:36 PM
I think Overlooking View is my favourite.

black1blade
March 24th, 2016, 08:37 PM
oh good, lets start movie 3 with a bit of rape

how edgy
Yeah one of the most distasteful moments I must say.

Sesto
March 24th, 2016, 08:37 PM
fan fiction is just kind of boring imo

SeiKeo
March 24th, 2016, 08:38 PM
fan fiction is just kind of boring imo
think u haven't read the right ones

Snow
March 24th, 2016, 08:39 PM
Some have gud boinking.

Prix with a Silent X
March 24th, 2016, 08:39 PM
think u haven't read the right ones

or many at all

black1blade
March 24th, 2016, 08:41 PM
I think Overlooking View is my favourite.
Hmm, it probably has one of the best atmospheres and it is very memorable. Also really good as an intro to KnK, one of the biggest reasons why I would also suggest release order. But yeah I probably have to go with the generic opinion that paradox spiral is the best although I think the first part of the series (movies 1-4) is stronger than the second half overall.

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Well I remember quite liking the TP novelization. I do remember reading quite a bit of lulu x C.C fanfiction when I was younger. Thinking about it, it's the only thing that makes the lulu lives ending any good, the huge ship potential.

Strife ❤️
March 24th, 2016, 08:41 PM
I think Overlooking View is my favourite.

Yeah, it has a very nice atmosphere.

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fuck

Raylen Cypher
March 24th, 2016, 08:43 PM
Both, as that's what I mean about Shared Resonance being practice. It shares a general plot with this story.

Ahah, I thought so. It doesn't matter to me if it follows canon or not. So I wouldn't hound you about it. Based on that summary, does it entail romance or is it just a normal duo sort of relationship?

Snow
March 24th, 2016, 08:43 PM
It was maybe the only one in which Ryougi appealed to me as a character.

SeiKeo
March 24th, 2016, 08:44 PM
Yeah, it has a very nice atmosphere.

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fuck
nice opinion m8

Strife ❤️
March 24th, 2016, 08:45 PM
The best.

Arashi_Leonhart
March 24th, 2016, 08:45 PM
Ahah, I thought so. It doesn't matter to me if it follows canon or not. So I wouldn't hound you about it. Based on that summary, does it entail romance or is it just a normal duo sort of relationship?

It has sex in it, so it's not bereft of romance. It's more complicated than that though.

You
March 24th, 2016, 08:46 PM
Knk Movies:
6.5>5>1>8>3>9>2>7>4>6

Sesto
March 24th, 2016, 08:48 PM
or many at all

both right yeah

but in general i don't find it interesting. x character replaced by x character, what if scenarios, my take on this canon event are cool as talking points sure, but reading a long story about a fan's interpretation is just not that interesting to me
i've tried to read a bunch that are highly rated but in the end i don't care enough. one-shots are fine, but that's about it.

SeiKeo
March 24th, 2016, 08:48 PM
both right yeah

but in general i don't find it interesting. x character replaced by x character, what if scenarios, my take on this canon event are cool as talking points sure, but reading a long story about a fan's interpretation is just not that interesting to me
i've tried to read a bunch that are highly rated but in the end i don't care enough. one-shots are fine, but that's about it.
Porn????????

Sesto
March 24th, 2016, 08:49 PM
Porn????????

unless it has art i don't care, written porn is boring

Snow
March 24th, 2016, 08:49 PM
unless it has art i don't care, written porn is boring
Well, no.

SeiKeo
March 24th, 2016, 08:50 PM
unless it has art i don't care, written porn is boring
my child...

Zurvan
March 24th, 2016, 08:50 PM
Lacking imagination perhaps?

Arashi has a nice fic called Hot and cold.... Maybe that is to your liking
Though probably not

Prix with a Silent X
March 24th, 2016, 08:51 PM
both right yeah

but in general i don't find it interesting. x character replaced by x character, what if scenarios, my take on this canon event are cool as talking points sure, but reading a long story about a fan's interpretation is just not that interesting to me
i've tried to read a bunch that are highly rated but in the end i don't care enough. one-shots are fine, but that's about it.

Then why do you always complain about wanting to write the same kind of thing?

black1blade
March 24th, 2016, 08:54 PM
Knk Movies:
6.5>5>1>8>3>9>2>7>4>6
Only seen the oblvious sequence from 6.5 but surely a clp show can't be better than the things they originally came from. Part of what makes KnK great is how each of the movies feels so distinct but putting them all together removes that entirely. For my person order: 5>3>1=4>7>2>6>8.

Raylen Cypher
March 24th, 2016, 08:55 PM
It has sex in it, so it's not bereft of romance. It's more complicated than that though.

Adult Novel huh, target audience is 18+ then. Love's already complicated, even though it's simple and we just make it complicated.


Lacking imagination perhaps?

Arashi has a nice fic called Hot and cold.... Maybe that is to your liking
Though probably not

Or he just prefers erodoujins.

Snow
March 24th, 2016, 08:55 PM
Best Fate smut I've read hands down is the Rin/Lancer/Archer one on AO3

GhostDIGIT
March 24th, 2016, 08:59 PM
Do you have a link?

Sesto
March 24th, 2016, 09:00 PM
Then why do you always complain about wanting to write the same kind of thing?

because my desire to tell a story is stronger than my desire to read one (for fan fiction)

it's selfish yeah sure, you've lectured me on this before.

Prix with a Silent X
March 24th, 2016, 09:01 PM
because my desire to tell a story is stronger than my desire to read one (for fan fiction)

it's selfish yeah sure, you've lectured me on this before.

What I'm here to do

black1blade
March 24th, 2016, 09:14 PM
Just wrote 39 lines speculating as to why loads of people like boku dake but better shows like shouwa genroku aren't as popular- feels good.

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These are youtube comment lines so it's not too bad.

Snow
March 24th, 2016, 09:16 PM
Do you have a link?
http://archiveofourown.org/works/4607448?view_adult=true

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Maybe not that good, but I enjoyed it.

GhostDIGIT
March 24th, 2016, 09:17 PM
Thanks!

GhostDIGIT
March 24th, 2016, 09:28 PM
When Lancer pulled his hand away, she could feel her own come drip from his fingertips onto her spread thighs. And then she nearly blacked out when he reached across her and pushed his wet fingers into Archer’s mouth, who sucked them in like he was hungry for it.

“Oh my god, oh my god.”

Archer clutched the other man’s wrist and licked his fingers clean.
:o

black1blade
March 24th, 2016, 09:52 PM
I'm getting flashbacks of the good ol' UBW days where I would stay up really late, arguing about pointless shit on youtube comments. How many google notifications do you reckon I'm gonna have by morning considering I commented on all the major discussion threads under the Digibro vid dissing Erased?

Sesto
March 24th, 2016, 09:53 PM
3, at least

black1blade
March 24th, 2016, 09:55 PM
Well I've been getting like 1 a minute regularly since I started about an hour ago when the video was 4 hours old.

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My bet is the teens.

Historia
March 24th, 2016, 09:55 PM
I dont care about anything anime right now unless its Gundam Unicorn or Re:LIFE

black1blade
March 24th, 2016, 09:59 PM
And now I have reached that state of being really tired, on the internet and listening to anime music. Good times XD.

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Realise now that I just need something to argue and bitch about XD.

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Should've gone to bed more than an hour ago when I almost feel asleep watching kyomomimonogatari.

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But yeah this vid has almost half dislikes to give an idea how bad the comments are.

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Also think I may finish off a bunch of the seasonal shows I dropped like half way through last year just to pad out my list a bit, without much effort. I didn't dislike overlord or grimgar, I just got to a point where I couldn't be bothered to download the next episode.

Historia
March 24th, 2016, 10:01 PM
Marida best girl.

SeiKeo
March 24th, 2016, 10:01 PM
If you have that many fucking things to say then just say them instead of stacking them up constantly dear lord.

black1blade
March 24th, 2016, 10:03 PM
But I'm like hoping that someone will post things inbetween.

Historia
March 24th, 2016, 10:04 PM
Soundtrack of Gundam Unicorn is still Sawano's best work.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQf4NudnI0o

black1blade
March 24th, 2016, 10:07 PM
But yeah seriously going to sleep now.

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And yes I will probably watch unicorn just for the soundtrack as I really like most of what sawano has done.

Zurvan
March 24th, 2016, 10:15 PM
How did, this guy resurrected hoozay, turn into, okay kids this bloody bunny hid some nice chocolate eggs and you should find them?

I3uster
March 24th, 2016, 10:18 PM
fertility symbols planted by the 23

recognize the signs

stay woke

2Bad
March 24th, 2016, 10:21 PM
So Dark Souls 3 has Las Plagas

Zurvan
March 24th, 2016, 10:22 PM
Rodyle, don't put me in this position

2Bad
March 24th, 2016, 10:23 PM
It's a super minor descriptor of an enemy

Zurvan
March 24th, 2016, 10:24 PM
Oooh okay, that's fine then

Prix with a Silent X
March 24th, 2016, 10:34 PM
But I'm like hoping that someone will post things inbetween.

A dangerous hope it's not very useful to have.

Zurvan
March 24th, 2016, 10:36 PM
We don't want to ruin the updated signs
People love their merges

Arashi_Leonhart
March 24th, 2016, 10:37 PM
Soundtrack of Gundam Unicorn is still Sawano's best work.

Yes, although I think he also fell asleep while listening to the Bourne series' soundtrack.

Prix with a Silent X
March 24th, 2016, 10:37 PM
We don't want to ruin the updated signs
People love their merges

You're a very considerate creature.

Zurvan
March 24th, 2016, 10:39 PM
As are you, but I don't see how that matters here

just Beamu
March 24th, 2016, 11:44 PM
Ten hours of catering involving Cajun spices and sauces makes everything burn

btw i'm finally watching knk bye kids
You said this last night


old news

And now I have reached that state of being really tired, on the internet and listening to anime music. Good times XD.

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Realise now that I just need something to argue and bitch about XD.

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Should've gone to bed more than an hour ago when I almost feel asleep watching kyomomimonogatari.

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But yeah this vid has almost half dislikes to give an idea how bad the comments are.

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Also think I may finish off a bunch of the seasonal shows I dropped like half way through last year just to pad out my list a bit, without much effort. I didn't dislike overlord or grimgar, I just got to a point where I couldn't be bothered to download the next episode.
my god

Gl❀w
March 25th, 2016, 12:18 AM
You said this last night


its almost like people get started on things and then don't finish them for some reason



also this just in: rodyle has never seen My Big Fat Greek Wedding

2Bad
March 25th, 2016, 12:19 AM
more importantly we're building a really winner for groupwatch since the last one sunk into the earth

just Beamu
March 25th, 2016, 12:23 AM
also this just in: rodyle has never seen My Big Fat Greek Wedding
This is acceptable

Gl❀w
March 25th, 2016, 12:26 AM
its iconic, dude.

SeiKeo
March 25th, 2016, 12:27 AM
What is it an icon of?

just Beamu
March 25th, 2016, 12:28 AM
its iconic, dude.
Iconicness does not equal good

Gl❀w
March 25th, 2016, 12:28 AM
Bad Makeover-Movie Rom Coms

SeiKeo
March 25th, 2016, 12:31 AM
I'm not impressed.

Prix with a Silent X
March 25th, 2016, 12:35 AM
I'll watch the Bad RomCom with you. And force Rodyle to watch it.

Or we could all watch Mean Girls, it'd be educational.

Gl❀w
March 25th, 2016, 12:38 AM
I'll watch the Bad RomCom with you. And force Rodyle to watch it.

Or we could all watch Mean Girls, it'd be educational.
memewatch involves using your mic

i refuse to believe a bad romcom can lure you into that

Kirby
March 25th, 2016, 12:38 AM
Did someone say Mean Girls

2Bad
March 25th, 2016, 12:40 AM
MG is good

Gl❀w
March 25th, 2016, 12:47 AM
I'm in for Mean Girls but friend rodyle had something else in mind

2Bad
March 25th, 2016, 12:48 AM
you can't deny it's more appropriate for a bunch of idiots yelling into microphones

Gl❀w
March 25th, 2016, 12:52 AM
you can't deny it's more appropriate for a bunch of idiots yelling into microphones

no, i shant even attempt to deny it

just Beamu
March 25th, 2016, 12:52 AM
So long as Glow's eventual rewatch of KnK results in the promised groupwatch all shall be good

Gl❀w
March 25th, 2016, 12:53 AM
so many demands on my time, good grief

just Beamu
March 25th, 2016, 12:54 AM
so many demands on my time, good grief
you suggested it in the first place

reap the whirlwind

Prix with a Silent X
March 25th, 2016, 01:09 AM
so many demands on my time, good grief

Glow:

http://cdn1.theodysseyonline.com/files/2015/11/01/635820162956933736253686008_20-mean-girls-gif.gif

You
March 25th, 2016, 01:12 AM
Did someone say Mean Girls
Did someone say Mean Girls 2?

Spinach
March 25th, 2016, 01:19 AM
My cat is massaging my ass. I just need some witnesses when I say no homo, thanks.

just Beamu
March 25th, 2016, 01:20 AM
all the homo tbh

Kirby
March 25th, 2016, 01:25 AM
Did someone say Mean Girls 2?
What

just Beamu
March 25th, 2016, 01:31 AM
What
It isn't even new (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1679235/)

Gl❀w
March 25th, 2016, 01:33 AM
Power went out and hasn't come back in yet. Why does this have to happen to me

just Beamu
March 25th, 2016, 01:34 AM
Buy a generator

Seika
March 25th, 2016, 01:36 AM
My cat is massaging my ass. I just need some witnesses when I say no homo, thanks.

http://i.imgur.com/MRR2OMV.jpg

Prix with a Silent X
March 25th, 2016, 01:48 AM
Power went out and hasn't come back in yet. Why does this have to happen to me

That is sad news. Wrap up lots and coddle doggie.

Gl❀w
March 25th, 2016, 02:01 AM
my power, and more importantly my internet, lives once more

Historia
March 25th, 2016, 02:56 AM
good, now go to bed

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meanwhile it's 2:00 am and i'm still writing

Gl❀w
March 25th, 2016, 03:08 AM
good, now go to bed




i dont sleep

someone who IMs with me please confirm

Prix with a Silent X
March 25th, 2016, 03:33 AM
i dont sleep

someone who IMs with me please confirm

I will confirm and I have apparently lost my ability to sleep. I miss sleep.

Historia
March 25th, 2016, 03:40 AM
writing morgan is fun

she's so classy

Prix with a Silent X
March 25th, 2016, 03:47 AM
I found you on ff.net and favorited your story. [waves a tiny flag]

Historia
March 25th, 2016, 04:13 AM
I found you on ff.net and favorited your story. [waves a tiny flag]

i'll do the same to you

and uh don't expect the updates on ff.net to be anything more than the shit version that i later look over and edit before i post on here (speaking of yamk)

i find it easier to read there, is really all that is

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ah, but anyway, i got 1500 or so words in and that's good enough for me

gonna hit the hay

Five_X
March 25th, 2016, 05:41 AM
New Drug Candy chapter...

the plot, uh, thickens

Nacho the Doritosedge
March 25th, 2016, 05:42 AM
Turns out im working an extra weekend, sending my pay for this replacement job into the three thousands.

Oh baby

Snow
March 25th, 2016, 05:45 AM
New Drug Candy chapter...

the plot, uh, thickens

Evil ex bf please tell the wife.

Gl❀w
March 25th, 2016, 05:50 AM
New Drug Candy chapter...

the plot, uh, thickens

the plot, huh

Snow
March 25th, 2016, 06:07 AM
Wife and rugboy any time now

pls

Five_X
March 25th, 2016, 07:20 AM
Evil ex bf please tell the wife.

I swear it's gonna happen, there were hints in one of the last chapters!

Seems like good old salary man will soon get his due, anyhow.

Zurvan
March 25th, 2016, 07:46 AM
New Drug Candy chapter...

the plot, uh, thickens

I see what you did there

It seems I have the ability to make people stop talking with just my mere presence.
Wonderful really

black1blade
March 25th, 2016, 09:44 AM
Fuck just cut my foot on a rusty staple sticking out of my currently un-floored room.

Polly
March 25th, 2016, 09:45 AM
Doggy!

http://i.imgur.com/cRijql3.jpg

Desuclocker
March 25th, 2016, 09:50 AM
Doggies are good.
http://i.imgur.com/2Bzc4SE.jpg

just Beamu
March 25th, 2016, 10:39 AM
i dont sleep

someone who IMs with me please confirm
Can confirm

black1blade
March 25th, 2016, 11:11 AM
Just worked out how to get the child lock off my window. Playing relaxing music along with doing my maths papers is pretty great I suppose. Still haven't put up a bloody blind so I can't really do anything significant on my monitor. Also did 2 and a half pages of D&D prep which is alright I guess.

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Last few sessions haven't been great although that's probably my fault for not being able to engage people that much. I have been really tired to be fair.

Historia
March 25th, 2016, 11:21 AM
my avii collection grows

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and coming up with good descriptions is hard

black1blade
March 25th, 2016, 11:30 AM
Especially when describing complex things or coming up with stuff in the middle of a game.

Spinach
March 25th, 2016, 12:31 PM
transform

I3uster
March 25th, 2016, 12:36 PM
hello do i know you

Spinach
March 25th, 2016, 12:38 PM
You might. I'm a game commonly played in bathrooms, closets, parking lots and diners.

I3uster
March 25th, 2016, 12:38 PM
nice to meet you im a litmus test for shit taste in waifus

Spinach
March 25th, 2016, 12:39 PM
Hello

I'm Poverty

Snow
March 25th, 2016, 12:44 PM
I miss the matching marital avatars already

Spinach
March 25th, 2016, 12:44 PM
I miss the matching marital avatars already

Same

Wanna do Yona avatars together

I'll Yona you can be Hak

GhostDIGIT
March 25th, 2016, 12:46 PM
I miss the matching marital avatars already
Same, it's just not the same without them.

I3uster
March 25th, 2016, 12:47 PM
Hak

http://i.imgur.com/RBd54iH.jpg
decent album but i didnt think youd be a summer cem fan

Snow
March 25th, 2016, 12:49 PM
Same

Wanna do Yona avatars together

I'll Yona you can be Hak
http://i.imgur.com/4z2qp2Z.png
mmm'kay

Spinach
March 25th, 2016, 12:51 PM
http://i.imgur.com/RBd54iH.jpg
decent album but i didnt think youd be a summer cem fan

Don't meme me...


http://i.imgur.com/4z2qp2Z.png
mmm'kay

Okay find a good image

Snow
March 25th, 2016, 12:58 PM
Hello ladies.

Historia
March 25th, 2016, 12:59 PM
goddammit

Spinach
March 25th, 2016, 01:01 PM
Hello boys.

Strife ❤️
March 25th, 2016, 01:16 PM
Hello

just Beamu
March 25th, 2016, 01:18 PM
Hi, greetings

Spinach
March 25th, 2016, 01:18 PM
I said BOYS.

just Beamu
March 25th, 2016, 01:21 PM
I said BOYS.
um okay

SeiKeo
March 25th, 2016, 01:21 PM
[email protected]

2Bad
March 25th, 2016, 01:24 PM
when you think about it, Yona is the strongest

just Beamu
March 25th, 2016, 01:25 PM
[email protected]
what

Snow
March 25th, 2016, 01:28 PM
Hello I am here for the ladies.

Spinach
March 25th, 2016, 01:30 PM
Hello I am here for the ladies.

Same.

Polly
March 25th, 2016, 01:33 PM
Same.

Yes hi hello

just Beamu
March 25th, 2016, 01:34 PM
what about the cute boys tho

GhostDIGIT
March 25th, 2016, 01:35 PM
what about the cute boys tho
They will be neglected.

Snow
March 25th, 2016, 01:36 PM
I feel more like a Jay than a Haku but I guess it will have to do.

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what about the cute boys tho

Them also.

Spinach
March 25th, 2016, 01:37 PM
Yes hi hello

You have a girlfriend now, can't thirst anymore. Sorry Polly. I know it'll be tough living without that...

2Bad
March 25th, 2016, 01:37 PM
am I doing this correctly

Spinach
March 25th, 2016, 01:38 PM
am I doing this correctly

Please fuck off imo

2Bad
March 25th, 2016, 01:38 PM
Please fuck off imo
Yellow good

Spinach
March 25th, 2016, 01:39 PM
Yellow good

You're being a third wheel right now tbh