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2Bad
August 16th, 2016, 03:34 PM
that sweater art tho

Laserman
August 16th, 2016, 03:34 PM
I just wish it let me pick in what order to put them instead of having to go through that sorting thing.

2Bad
August 16th, 2016, 03:34 PM
like she's not Medea obviously but she cannot be considered bad

also "oversexed" girl you like TAMAMAO

Spinach
August 16th, 2016, 03:35 PM
<3 T A M A M O <3

Yeah me too.

2Bad
August 16th, 2016, 03:38 PM
Man I don't fucking know what their personalities are I don't read Grand Order translations

Snow
August 16th, 2016, 03:39 PM
like she's not Medea obviously but she cannot be considered bad

also "oversexed" girl you like TAMAMAO
Tamamo is a courtesan and oversexed makes much more sense for her than for Badass Witch Mentor Goddess.

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I just want people to draw her without cameltoe for once is that too much to ask for???

2Bad
August 16th, 2016, 03:40 PM
that depends, can you accept a Bulgeless lancer?

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(the ct always looks terrible in anything)

Snow
August 16th, 2016, 03:41 PM
that depends, can you accept a Bulgeless lancer?

Unless it's porn, I've never seen the bulge given that much loving detail as the cameltoe gets in almost every fanart piece.

Snow
August 16th, 2016, 03:42 PM
She Fucked Chu

She'd Totes Fuck You, Too!

2Bad
August 16th, 2016, 03:45 PM
You are just as cool as Lancer, mobage user!


Unless it's porn, I've never seen the bulge given that much loving detail as the cameltoe gets in almost every fanart piece.
Even going all the way back to Lancer I really don't get where the body suit idea came from. Like okay Takeuchi wanted to replicate the body paint stories in some fashion, but why not just like, shirtless with ink or something less insane.

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And now every 5th servant is in a plug suit forever

SeiKeo
August 16th, 2016, 03:46 PM
You are just as cool as Lancer, mobage user!


Even going all the way back to Lancer I really don't get where the body suit idea came from. Like okay Takeuchi wanted to replicate the body paint stories in some fashion, but why not just like, shirtless with ink or something less insane.

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And now every 5th servant is in a plug suit forever
So you want, like, what ended up being his GO design.

Snow
August 16th, 2016, 03:46 PM
Maybe he was giving erotic homage to ST sickbay uniforms.

Though O'Brien's was yellow...

Snow
August 16th, 2016, 03:47 PM
I, for one, support the blue spandex.

2Bad
August 16th, 2016, 03:50 PM
So you want, like, what ended up being his GO design.
No because that's just a chopped up version of OG Cu (but you can't exactly walk back that design at this point so whatever).

Caster Cu looks alright though.

But yeah no I do agree Snow, that shit rides too high, too often.

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I, for one, support the blue spandex.
I mean, so do I, but that's because I've been programmed to think Lancer and everything about him is cool by this point.


His aloha outfit from HA looks better though.

SeiKeo
August 16th, 2016, 03:51 PM
When you think about it, is 'person who wants to screw this cool guy' a worse personality than 'cool guy'?

2Bad
August 16th, 2016, 03:52 PM
In this case, yes.

Snow
August 16th, 2016, 03:52 PM
They made me like a design for a guy in spandex with a blue mullet and the red/blue colour combo. Gotta commend that at least.

2Bad
August 16th, 2016, 03:52 PM
They made me like a design for a guy in spandex with a blue mullet and the red/blue colour combo. Gotta commend that at least.
okay now let's talk about Tron Lancer

Snow
August 16th, 2016, 03:53 PM
okay now let's talk about Tron Lancer

Ask me anything!

2Bad
August 16th, 2016, 03:55 PM
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/typemoon/images/a/a2/Lancer_extra.png/revision/latest?cb=20130824161455

I mean like

come on

Snow
August 16th, 2016, 03:56 PM
If you look closely, you can notice that Proto Cu wore garters.

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http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/typemoon/images/a/a2/Lancer_extra.png/revision/latest?cb=20130824161455

I mean like

come on
His design is already sf friendly and this was just pushing it.

just Beamu
August 16th, 2016, 03:57 PM
I, for one, support the blue spandex.
It's pretty great tbh

2Bad
August 16th, 2016, 03:58 PM
His design is already sf friendly and this was just pushing it.
Normally I'm all for leaning into it, but eventually you will, in fact, fall over

Snow
August 16th, 2016, 03:59 PM
Why not just have him naked and wrapped strategically in blue pixels?

2Bad
August 16th, 2016, 04:00 PM
Because we ostensibly don't live in R18land anymore

2Bad
August 16th, 2016, 04:02 PM
OG FSN should have just had him nude with a small blue censor bar

SeiKeo
August 16th, 2016, 04:03 PM
At least crop it for an avatar gosh

2Bad
August 16th, 2016, 04:03 PM
too lazy

Snow
August 16th, 2016, 04:04 PM
too lazy

I want Dio.

2Bad
August 16th, 2016, 04:04 PM
uuuurryyy

Snow
August 16th, 2016, 04:06 PM
actually the most unironic thing I wrote here in probably ever

just Beamu
August 16th, 2016, 04:06 PM
I want Dio.
Specify the kind of want in this case

2Bad
August 16th, 2016, 04:07 PM
Pucci, Kira, and Funny are better villains.

Post-Green Child Pucci is even better looking

Snow
August 16th, 2016, 04:07 PM
Pucci, Kira, and Funny are better villains.

Post-Green Child Pucci is even better looking

pikks!

2Bad
August 16th, 2016, 04:09 PM
DIO is popular because of the memes, Dio is popular because he's just a huge asshole for no reason and it's funny

2Bad
August 16th, 2016, 04:10 PM
yeah
Hey, you implied the question

Pucci after fusing

http://www.fightersgeneration.com/nx6/game/jjba-asb/enrico-pucci-jjba-asb.png

Snow
August 16th, 2016, 04:10 PM
i mean, internet memes aside Dio is spectacularly unimpressive as a villain

i can concede that i don't "get" jojo but his popularity keeps escaping me

he looks dashing in victorian outfits

2Bad
August 16th, 2016, 04:12 PM
he looks dashing in victorian outfits
His "out on the town" outfit is maybe the dumbest looking thing in Phantom Blood and that's impressive

Snow
August 16th, 2016, 04:13 PM
I hate this life where I can't magically make my paper be about anime fashions.

2Bad
August 16th, 2016, 04:15 PM
I hate this life where I can't magically make my paper be about anime fashions.
Araki literally got a Gucci crossover, he has surpassed anime and become a new lifeform

mAc Chaos
August 16th, 2016, 04:16 PM
i mean, internet memes aside Dio is spectacularly unimpressive as a villain

i can concede that i don't "get" jojo but his popularity keeps escaping me
He's the only villain that made me actually hate-read the first volume of the manga when I started it.

mAc Chaos
August 16th, 2016, 04:21 PM
For some reason other villains never elicited that reaction from me, but Dio did.

But now I just love him, so.

Snow
August 16th, 2016, 04:21 PM
JoJo is ooooooooold so that might explain it a bit.

Strife ❤️
August 16th, 2016, 04:23 PM
Araki literally got a Gucci crossover, he has surpassed anime and become a new lifeform

Interesting

http://www.rioni.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/gucci-araki-manga-window-display.jpg

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but no

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/ckxsabke90xs1z8gv7ix.png

mAc Chaos
August 16th, 2016, 04:24 PM
JoJo is ooooooooold so that might explain it a bit.

In my case I only got into Jojo like a year ago, so it wasn't the oldness. Though I've always had an affinity for 80s manga and anime so maybe the style was a perfect fit.

I think it's more the banality of his evil in the first part. With other villains, it's usually some grand design, or over the top world ending ambition that makes it impersonal. In Dio's case, a lot of it was basic childhood stuff that you can relate to.

Snow
August 16th, 2016, 04:24 PM
I'd be hard pressed to find something more lifeless than the FF/LV collab.

Spinach
August 16th, 2016, 04:30 PM
It's not that hard to make a character completely hateworthy.

Not that I disagree that Dio is pure slime, just that it feels purposeless.

but this is going to end up like explaining colour to the blind so w/e

Well.

He's a one dimensional evil character. He really doesn't have anything more than that. Why is he evil? Because he was born that way. That's it. You have Dio. Kind of like how Jonathan is chivalrous, good and a perfectly moral being because that's just how it is, he literally inherited genetic superman chivalry. And as time has gone on you can actually see Araki kind of shunning his past character writing, and honestly a huge portion of Part 6 reads like Araki literally trying to indirectly revise Dio's character through another character's flashbacks. Then he said fuck it and literally created a new Dio to try revising him again, except directly. Honestly, he's a relic from a time period when shounen manga had minimal standards for antagonists, they could just be the bad guy because the story needed a bad guy. Like, his motivation is literally just to be all powerful and rule the world through his absolute power.

I'm thoroughly convinced as somebody that likes Dio that nobody likes Dio for some reason like his thought provoking character. People like him for one of three reasons.

They think he's hot.

They like memes. (hello)

They like evil characters.

That's it.

Snow
August 16th, 2016, 04:33 PM
Spin is actually amazing when he tries wow

mAc Chaos
August 16th, 2016, 04:37 PM
I wouldn't say it's that simple. He actually does have some characterization in Part 1, though it's true that I like him just because he's evil.

His dad's abuse of him and his poverty make him extremely defensive and unable to empathize with people, and breeds a sense of ambition to fill up the insecurity from his low upbringing. You can see his thoughts touch on it here and there, like when he loathes how he's become just like his father, or how the one thing he truly hates is his father's treatment of his mother. Then he meets Jojo, and everything he does in a way is to match up to him.

The "reinvention" he gets in later parts is just Araki making those things more explicit. I recall there being an interview once where Araki himself stated that he prefers to keep his villains more sympathetic traits out of view.

mAc Chaos
August 16th, 2016, 04:39 PM
Shinji M. got the same reaction from me and a lot more strongly.


with this post im also preventing any ritualist defence of shinji's purity by anybody who isn't koto
Actually, I pretty much went through the same thing with Shinji.

At first I hated him because he was so petty and pathetic.

Then I realized that he was /supposed/ to be hated, so he was actually a good character on a meta level for getting the desired reaction from the audience.

Then I appreciated him for his actual character.

Dio isn't actually that different from Shinji. He's British Shinji.

2Bad
August 16th, 2016, 04:39 PM
Dio's just kind of funny, that's all there is to it. DIO meanwhile has iconic status due to the gigantic shadow of Stardust.

asterism42
August 16th, 2016, 04:40 PM
i mean i don't either but for what im gathering it's pretty much just some sexual obsession over chu

and cmon
She wants to be impaled by his spear nudge nudge

Idk how creepy it is that he seems kinda frightened of her.

2Bad
August 16th, 2016, 04:40 PM
Although there are obviously links to the chain I dunno if it's useful to talk about why people like Jojo as a whole exactly, since the parts shift in tone and style.

Snow
August 16th, 2016, 04:41 PM
She wants to be impaled by his spear nudge nudge

Idk how creepy it is that he seems kinda frightened of her.



Waaaait is it actually implied she wants to boink him in GO?

asterism42
August 16th, 2016, 04:42 PM
Waaaait is it actually implied she wants to boink him in GO?
She still wants him to kill her, I think.

mAc Chaos
August 16th, 2016, 04:42 PM
At the end of it that only means pushing him from "evil by default" to "evil by genetics" which is more or less the same thing and a tad worrying
Wouldn't it be "evil by upbringing."

Snow
August 16th, 2016, 04:42 PM
She still wants him to kill her, I think.
What is wrong with people???

asterism42
August 16th, 2016, 04:44 PM
tbh I've barely paid attention to Scathach. She's that annoying combination of boring and overpowered storywise. At least Gilgamesh has an entertaining personality.

Spinach
August 16th, 2016, 04:48 PM
IDK how you can in good conscious argue for Dio having some layers of depth to ascribe to his ambitious evilness when the literal narrator substitute (Speedwagon) steps in to call him a liar for blaming his upbringing and stating that he was evil from birth.

2Bad
August 16th, 2016, 04:49 PM
Mac, the character you are describing is Diego, not Dio. The former is a ruthless motherfucker, mad about dad and the world. The latter is just an asshole.

Snow
August 16th, 2016, 04:51 PM
He was a bookish lad in a bad situation that realized he's just better than everyone else and the only way he'll succeed is by killing some people and becoming The Superhuman. It's happened before.

His journey just wasn't one that ends with him kneeling in the middle of Peterburg.

2Bad
August 16th, 2016, 04:53 PM
He kind of just stumbled into being superhuman really, his original plan, as you'll recall, was just to Get Paid.

Snow
August 16th, 2016, 04:53 PM
Analogy Ruined

mAc Chaos
August 16th, 2016, 04:54 PM
IDK how you can in good conscious argue for Dio having some layers of depth to ascribe to his ambitious evilness when the literal narrator substitute (Speedwagon) steps in to call him a liar for blaming his upbringing and stating that he was evil from birth.
The series literally goes out of its way to contrast their upbringings side by side. Jojo being spoiled and having a comfy house to live in, Dio getting smacked around by his dad and having to scrounge for a few cents from drunkards before getting beat up for it. By the time he meets Jojo, his predator/prey mentality is set and he just sees them as easy pickings. I've met people like that before, who take any generosity as a sign of weakness to be taken advantage of rather than something good, because they're so used to it being treated that way in the past.

I feel like it tries to have it both ways on that point, re: Speedwagon. Then again Speedwagon tends to exaggerate all the time.

@Bridge: to be fair that's because it doesn't really dwell on those things.

2Bad
August 16th, 2016, 04:59 PM
Actually Speedwagon is a Victorian stock character like everyone else. Where Dio represents the viciousness and opportunism of new money, Speedwagon is the lower class tough who is overwhelmed by the nobility of the true upper class.

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Speedwagon in part 2 can therefore be read in the context of having been "fixed" by Jojo and also with the genre change in mind.

Spinach
August 16th, 2016, 05:02 PM
The series also goes out of its way to emphasize that inherent morality (the Joestar's chivalrous spirit, Dio's evil) is, in these two families, inherited from birth, regardless of upbringing. Jojo is a manga that extensively makes use of an omniscient narrator to outright tell the reader a character's personality traits or how they acquired them(as well as explaining ability mechanics for the powerlevels), but Speedwagon takes over that role fairly often.

It is outright stated that Dio's evil from birth, his upbringing meant squat. Not only that, but it comes straight after Dio tries blatantly lying to Jonathan about how his upbringing made him into what he is in an attempt to catch Jonathan off guard.

2Bad
August 16th, 2016, 05:02 PM
You see, for all Jojo's madness, there is a structure and meaning to it. It's simply constructed in such a way that you can enjoy the surface insanity without having to understand the meaning of the pocket watch.

Snow
August 16th, 2016, 05:02 PM
taking it back to designs
http://i.imgur.com/Zys00hl.jpg?1
can you please?

Spinach
August 16th, 2016, 05:07 PM
taking it back to designs
http://i.imgur.com/Zys00hl.jpg?1
can you please?

http://i.imgur.com/Gc1fDD2.jpg

I want to go on a romantic horseback ride with Diego.

Snow
August 16th, 2016, 05:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD4hSJybyCY

black1blade
August 16th, 2016, 05:09 PM
Those cartoons as anime thing that rodyle retweeted are pretty funny.

2Bad
August 16th, 2016, 05:13 PM
I love Diego and his stupid fucking hat.

Him and Hot Pants vs Funny is maaaaaybe my favorite fight in the series besides Everyone vs Kira? It's way up there at least, along with stuff like The Grateful Dead or the D'arbys.

just Beamu
August 16th, 2016, 05:13 PM
Those cartoons as anime thing that rodyle retweeted are pretty funny.
You realize you can tell him on twitter right

mAc Chaos
August 16th, 2016, 05:18 PM
what is the difference between twitter and BL, alex

just Beamu
August 16th, 2016, 05:20 PM
my name ain't alex, marc

Snow
August 16th, 2016, 05:21 PM
what's my name?

asterism42
August 16th, 2016, 05:21 PM
Snow

just Beamu
August 16th, 2016, 05:22 PM
dj khaled

mAc Chaos
August 16th, 2016, 05:22 PM
jagi

Zurvan
August 16th, 2016, 05:22 PM
Sasha

2Bad
August 16th, 2016, 05:23 PM
Dio, as it turns out

Snow
August 16th, 2016, 05:23 PM
dj khaled

cccclose

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Dio, as it turns out

yes

just Beamu
August 16th, 2016, 05:23 PM
harambae

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cccclose

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yes
dang

Spinach
August 16th, 2016, 05:25 PM
what's my name?

Aleksandra

Snow
August 16th, 2016, 05:27 PM
aww yea good you didn't see it on disco before I changed it

just Beamu
August 16th, 2016, 05:28 PM
without a disco, could I ever be the victor

Polly
August 16th, 2016, 05:30 PM
Guess my name, you get free biscuits

SeiKeo
August 16th, 2016, 05:31 PM
Guess my name, you get free biscuits
Polliska

just Beamu
August 16th, 2016, 05:31 PM
Guess my name, you get free biscuits
Is it Polly

Polly
August 16th, 2016, 05:32 PM
Polliska

fukkin close

Spinach
August 16th, 2016, 05:32 PM
aww yea good you didn't see it on disco before I changed it

wow my feelings

Polly
August 16th, 2016, 05:32 PM
Is it Polly

no it's dio

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also what's 'disco'?

the discord thing?

just Beamu
August 16th, 2016, 05:33 PM
no it's dio

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also what's 'disco'?

the discord thing?
Yeah that's it

is it Pollyana

Snow
August 16th, 2016, 05:33 PM
yuuuup

Polly
August 16th, 2016, 05:33 PM
Why am I not privy to the discord thing? :(

just Beamu
August 16th, 2016, 05:34 PM
neither am I

Snow
August 16th, 2016, 05:36 PM
No one is.

Spinach
August 16th, 2016, 05:37 PM
Like, actually.

2Bad
August 16th, 2016, 05:37 PM
INTRODUCING RACER NUMBER 12: DIJANA ORIŠKOVIĆ, OR "DIO"

Polly
August 16th, 2016, 05:38 PM
No one is.

And yet your true secret identity was almost revealed there :p

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INTRODUCING RACER NUMBER 12: DIJANA ORIŠKOVIĆ, OR "DIO"

Close.

I mean it's completely wrong, but close.

Snow
August 16th, 2016, 05:38 PM
And yet your true secret identity was almost revealed there :p

that's just mine and spin's private chat of love

SeiKeo
August 16th, 2016, 05:39 PM
fukkin close
Will you tell me if I come to Croatia or do I have to irl you polly

Polly
August 16th, 2016, 05:40 PM
that's just mine and spin's private chat of love

Trying to get into a mod's panties?



I approve, you make me proud

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Will you tell me if I come to Croatia or do I have to irl you polly

You come to croatia you not only get my real name but also a kiss on the cheek

2Bad
August 16th, 2016, 05:41 PM
I mean it's completely wrong, but close.
It's correct in spirit

asterism42
August 16th, 2016, 05:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vh-7NZbg65M

Mozart could really spin a nice tune.

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My name is unpossible to guess, so don't even bother trying.

Spinach
August 16th, 2016, 05:44 PM
Trying to get into a mod's panties?

I approve, you make me proud

when people only see the green username outside but not the blue username on the inside...

Snow
August 16th, 2016, 05:45 PM
Angus!

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when people only see the green username outside but not the blue username on the inside...

i see your true colours bby

SeiKeo
August 16th, 2016, 05:45 PM
when people only see the green username outside but not the blue username on the inside...
Oh, admin panties, now that's ambition.

Zurvan
August 16th, 2016, 05:45 PM
when people only see the green username outside but not the blue username on the inside...

If you want people to see you need but open your heart to us

Polly
August 16th, 2016, 05:46 PM
when people only see the green username outside but not the blue username on the inside...

I shall always remember your old self, back in the days when we were but a pair of humble banterlads ( well i was a lass but that's beside the points )

Spinach
August 16th, 2016, 05:50 PM
I'm still the same boy

can't you see

Strife ❤️
August 16th, 2016, 05:50 PM
spinach survived

buster is the one who has been turned into a generic moderator

Zurvan
August 16th, 2016, 05:50 PM
Proof it

Snow
August 16th, 2016, 05:52 PM
I'm still the same boy

can't you see

hmmmm

I3uster
August 16th, 2016, 05:53 PM
why am i shaving at 12

why does my face burn

Polly
August 16th, 2016, 05:54 PM
why does my face burn

Use hair conditioner instead of shaving cream

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I'm still the same boy

can't you see

*huggles* <3

SeiKeo
August 16th, 2016, 06:07 PM
why am i shaving at 12

why does my face burn
cause you're a pussy

Polly
August 16th, 2016, 06:10 PM
cause you're a pussy

Nah

If he were, he'd be self lubricating and his face wouldnt burn

Snow
August 16th, 2016, 06:11 PM
niiiiiice

SeiKeo
August 16th, 2016, 06:13 PM
lol...

Zurvan
August 16th, 2016, 06:14 PM
Surely you can do better than that

Polly
August 16th, 2016, 06:16 PM
Surely you can do better than that

No, this is my best.

But you are free to top me and show me what good humour looks like

GhostDIGIT
August 16th, 2016, 07:28 PM
Trying to get into Europa. My god is this game complicated.

Zurvan
August 16th, 2016, 09:23 PM
No, this is my best.

But you are free to top me and show me what good humour looks like

I was referring to the person above me, not you Polly

Zurvan
August 16th, 2016, 10:19 PM
but why

drake and misaya are cooler

well. there's always this one you can use again

http://i44.tinypic.com/1gsk5h.jpg

Kirby
August 16th, 2016, 10:26 PM
draw or write

Zurvan
August 16th, 2016, 10:27 PM
draw

GhostDIGIT
August 16th, 2016, 10:27 PM
drawing

Historia
August 16th, 2016, 10:52 PM
Speaking of Scáthach, too bad we only have a few sources to go on about her.

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I was disappointed when Cú threatened to behead her if she didn't teach him her greatest feats right then and there that she didn't just turn around and woop his ass so he'd learn the hard way.

And there's also letting him lay her whenever he wanted for no reason at all other than he's a great warrior... or something.

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Be right back gonna re-write that whole part of the tale so Cú gets put in his place like the dog he is.

2Bad
August 16th, 2016, 11:11 PM
yes welcome to mythology

Historia
August 16th, 2016, 11:33 PM
yes welcome to mythology

Yes? Hello? I've been here awhile and...

2Bad
August 17th, 2016, 10:15 AM
HOLD THE DOOR
HOLD THE DOOR
HOLD DOOR

that's just silly

Zurvan
August 17th, 2016, 10:16 AM
Oh no
Don't go there

Snow
August 17th, 2016, 10:18 AM
It's dumb but there you have it.

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And there's also letting him lay her whenever he wanted for no reason at all other than he's a great warrior... or something.

She's allowed to be thirsty I guess.

2Bad
August 17th, 2016, 10:18 AM
I think Summer's fate is actually dumber in a sense

Like, just tell the giant wolf to help pull

Snow
August 17th, 2016, 10:26 AM
I'm appalled at all the symbolism and potential of the direwolves they just made lay down and die.

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I imagined that even if Summer died, his death would have some symbolic meaning vis-a-vis Bran's destiny, like what (probably) happened to Jojen in the books.

Shaggy's death was terrible and inexcusable and the producers did it just to feed their Ramsay boner.

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And the veery subtle nod to Sansa's latent warging powers in the books? Dead too!

Cruor
August 17th, 2016, 10:28 AM
show is weird

Snow
August 17th, 2016, 10:30 AM
I mean there are things you just can't do in a tv show, but still. A lot of nuance was lost as the seasons advanced, and while at least half of it was understandable, the worst offenders were done away with for cheap hype and spectacle.

GhostDIGIT
August 17th, 2016, 10:30 AM
the wolves keep dying because people are stupid

wolves are smart

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direwolves at least

Snow
August 17th, 2016, 10:43 AM
The Sansa bit was actually ridiculously poignant, if one thinks about it. It's been stated a number of times that the Direwolves, in a way, represent the Stark children, and their true natures, for example that Arya will never really be able to throw away her Starkness as long as Nymeria lives, and such.

Lady was the wolf that was most like a dog of the whole bunch, obedient and gentle-natured. The animal that Sansa connects with much later happens to be an old guard dog. This connects with Sansa herself, as she's the least 'Stark' of all the children. They are wolves that do wolf things and are exposed to dangers of the wild, and die cruel deaths, while the dog gets to live under a roof in relative safety. It's beaten, degraded and abused, but it gets to live, and eventually bite back against its oppressors when they're at their most vulnerable. Which is what Sansa is very much on her course for doing in the book, and she kinda-sorta did it in the show already.

Sansa is the only actually interesting Stark.

GhostDIGIT
August 17th, 2016, 11:04 AM
She's boring though.

Historia
August 17th, 2016, 11:08 AM
Who cares about the Starks, it's all about the Greyjoys

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and funny we're talking about this now as I'm currently rewatching the TV series. On season 2 right now.

GhostDIGIT
August 17th, 2016, 11:08 AM
Euron or Yara/Asha or Theon/Reek?

Historia
August 17th, 2016, 11:09 AM
I'm trying not to skip over the boring bits and unnecessarily lengthy sex scenes this time around.

GhostDIGIT
August 17th, 2016, 11:09 AM
Has Theon fondled his sis yet?

Historia
August 17th, 2016, 11:11 AM
And Yara of course.

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And yeah I'm on episode 4 or so. Demon babies, yo.

Snow
August 17th, 2016, 11:14 AM
She's boring though.

lol

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people who consider characters like Sansa, the flesh and bones of asoiaf, boring are the reason the show degraded so much justsaying

2Bad
August 17th, 2016, 11:14 AM
Arya is cooler than Sansa but Sandra's arc is good

As for the show, it took much convincing and I still skipped the back half of 5 but I'm mostly enjoying 6 so far. The Sand Snake stuff us a dumb but understandable simplification, and the Euro/Vic fusion is fine. Bran's stuff is stupid aside from the ever welcome presence of Max Von Sidow but I care the least about his story in general in the books anyway.

GhostDIGIT
August 17th, 2016, 11:16 AM
lol

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people who consider characters like Sansa, the flesh and bones of asoiaf, boring are the reason the show degraded so much justsaying
all they needed to do was put jeyne pool back in

Snow
August 17th, 2016, 11:18 AM
Arya is cooler than Sansa but Sandra's arc is good

as far as childhood trauma and mental illness are cool

GhostDIGIT
August 17th, 2016, 11:19 AM
which is extremely cool

2Bad
August 17th, 2016, 11:26 AM
as far as childhood trauma and mental illness are cool

When she stabs the dudes it's pretty good

Snow
August 17th, 2016, 11:29 AM
not for her it's isn't

Polly
August 17th, 2016, 11:32 AM
which is extremely cool

i feel kuuru now

Historia
August 17th, 2016, 11:33 AM
i should read the books sometime, but then again

2Bad
August 17th, 2016, 11:34 AM
not for her it's isn't

Vengeance is sweet

GhostDIGIT
August 17th, 2016, 11:36 AM
i feel kuuru now
glad i could help

Polly
August 17th, 2016, 11:36 AM
Vengeance is sweet

Yeah

But you know what would be even sweeter?

Eating cake that your still-alive mum made for you and your still-alive older bro's b-day, and later going riding with your still-alive dad outside of your still-not-sacked castle

GhostDIGIT
August 17th, 2016, 11:37 AM
not for her it's isn't
It is actually horrifying to watch her turn into a cold blooded killer but I'm too fascinated by it to care.

Historia
August 17th, 2016, 11:38 AM
season 7's production teaser is better than most movie trailers


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjue5j1JRaA

what is this

GhostDIGIT
August 17th, 2016, 11:38 AM
Yeah

But you know what would be even sweeter?

Eating cake that your still-alive mum made for you and your still-alive older bro's b-day, and later going riding with your still-alive dad outside of your still-not-sacked castle
Do they even have cake in Westeros?

Snow
August 17th, 2016, 11:39 AM
It is actually horrifying to watch her turn into a cold blooded killer but I'm too fascinated by it to care.

Well some are equally fascinated by subtle and realistic development of characters who have no choice but submit to societal expectations and can only fight back with their brains because they're not Strong Female Characters.

GhostDIGIT
August 17th, 2016, 11:42 AM
Well, good for you I guess.

Skull
August 17th, 2016, 11:42 AM
*sigh* I got asked for some identification when trying to buy a 15 rated movie.

I know I'm short but that's pushing it.

Historia
August 17th, 2016, 11:43 AM
*sigh* I got asked for some identification when trying to buy a 15 rated movie.

I know I'm short but that's pushing it.

how short

2Bad
August 17th, 2016, 11:44 AM
Yeah

But you know what would be even sweeter?

Eating cake that your still-alive mum made for you and your still-alive older bro's b-day, and later going riding with your still-alive dad outside of your still-not-sacked castle

That would be sweeter yes

But in absence of that, vengeance will do

Was very disappointed that Arya doesn't cheat the blindness test in the show

Skull
August 17th, 2016, 11:44 AM
how short
Shorter than the average Brit.

Cruor
August 17th, 2016, 11:45 AM
I mean there are things you just can't do in a tv show, but still. A lot of nuance was lost as the seasons advanced, and while at least half of it was understandable, the worst offenders were done away with for cheap hype and spectacle.

You can have a ton of nuance in tv (and movies) sopranos, mad men, etc. all were handled nicely thematically

but yeah, the show is a lot worse at trying to do this and even kinda tosses it.

Snow
August 17th, 2016, 11:46 AM
That would be sweeter yes

But in absence of that, vengeance will do

Was very disappointed that Arya doesn't cheat the blindness test in the show
Which is, comically, something Book!Arya would never do.

Historia
August 17th, 2016, 11:47 AM
Shorter than the average Brit.

that doesn't tell me anything

Skull
August 17th, 2016, 11:51 AM
that doesn't tell me anything
Average height of a man in the UK is "5ft 9in (175.3cm)".

Snow
August 17th, 2016, 11:52 AM
You're taller than me at least!

Skull
August 17th, 2016, 11:54 AM
You're taller than me at least!
Eh, it's less my height that's the issue than the fact that I have a baby face. :(

Historia
August 17th, 2016, 12:01 PM
Average height of a man in the UK is "5ft 9in (175.3cm)".

still doesn't tell me anything

but being a babyface does

black1blade
August 17th, 2016, 12:01 PM
Honestly stopped giving much of a fuck about game of thrones a few episodes into season 5.

Snow
August 17th, 2016, 12:02 PM
Eh, it's less my height that's the issue than the fact that I have a baby face. :(
At least you're not 163cm with a childish face...

black1blade
August 17th, 2016, 12:02 PM
Also skull you just gotta grow dat beard and people wont mistake you for being under 15.

Five_X
August 17th, 2016, 12:03 PM
I don't even know what I'd look without facial hair anymore, it's been too long. Not sure if recommend.

black1blade
August 17th, 2016, 12:04 PM
Probably going to shave my facial hairs before going back to school. Wont keep my face clean shaven though, too lazy for that.

just Beamu
August 17th, 2016, 12:05 PM
At least you're not 163cm with a childish face...
That isn't actually that short though?

GhostDIGIT
August 17th, 2016, 12:05 PM
*insert mustache song here*

black1blade
August 17th, 2016, 12:06 PM
I've never actually gone into a shop and brought a 15 rated movie or went to see a 15 rated movie in a cinema but what would I do if they questioned my age?

Snow
August 17th, 2016, 12:06 PM
That isn't actually that short though?

Average female height in my country is 172cm iirc.

black1blade
August 17th, 2016, 12:07 PM
That isn't actually that short though?
It's under 5'6" so I would probably consider that short.

just Beamu
August 17th, 2016, 12:09 PM
Average female height in my country is 172cm iirc.
That sounds slightly taller than usual for average female height to me.

Arashi_Leonhart
August 17th, 2016, 12:10 PM
*sigh* I got asked for some identification when trying to buy a 15 rated movie.

I know I'm short but that's pushing it.

When I was seventeen I went with a bunch of friends to go see The Matrix Reloaded on IMAX. I did not get carded. My friend who was also seventeen did not get carded. Then the eldest among us at 22 was carded.

We never let him live it down.

2Bad
August 17th, 2016, 12:10 PM
Which is, comically, something Book!Arya would never do.

What, no that's exactly what she does, she wargs that cat

In the show they dumped that element, unless you meant that in the double negative sense

Snow
August 17th, 2016, 12:11 PM
That sounds slightly taller than usual for average female height to me.

Hmm okay I just checked and it's 166cm. But still!

2Bad
August 17th, 2016, 12:12 PM
Whatever else I might say about the show, I'll give them this: I am fucking terrified of Johnathan Pryce

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He's more intimidating than Dance was for god's sake!

Snow
August 17th, 2016, 12:13 PM
What, no that's exactly what she does, she wargs that cat

In the show they dumped that element, unless you meant that in the double negative sense

Yeah but she doesn't parkour her way out of FM training because she a) knows she needs it b) agreed to it herself. If she couldn't warg I doubt she'd go looking for other ways to fool the test.

I mean she agreed to it in the show too but you could easily forget that bit with how she show treats her training.

Cruor
August 17th, 2016, 12:14 PM
I don't even know what I'd look without facial hair anymore, it's been too long. Not sure if recommend.

hey if you shave your face would feel nice and funny for a few days

thats like one of the best feelings ever

black1blade
August 17th, 2016, 12:15 PM
Also in the more recent seasons of GOT I'm not enjoying all the timeline jumbling they are doing. I know it makes the episodes flow better but they could at least give an indication in what order the events are happening such as a date or a reference to an event that just occurred.

Cruor
August 17th, 2016, 12:15 PM
I'm a 185cm, 61kg stick :|

2Bad
August 17th, 2016, 12:16 PM
Yeah but she doesn't parkour her way out of FM training because she a) knows she needs it b) agreed to it herself. If she couldn't warg I doubt she'd go looking for other ways to fool the test.

No but my statement was meant to indicate I'm sad they cut the cat

Snow
August 17th, 2016, 12:17 PM
Also in the more recent seasons of GOT I'm not enjoying all the timeline jumbling they are doing. I know it makes the episode flow better but they could at least give an indication in what order the events are happening such as a date or a reference to an event that just occurred.

there was exactly one instance where it wasn't blatantly obvious they were doing a flashback or timeskip so I don't see your point

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No but my statement was meant to indicate I'm sad they cut the cat

Fair.

just Beamu
August 17th, 2016, 12:19 PM
Hmm okay I just checked and it's 166cm. But still!
2cm difference is nothing

Skull
August 17th, 2016, 12:20 PM
I've never actually gone into a shop and brought a 15 rated movie or went to see a 15 rated movie in a cinema but what would I do if they questioned my age?
They ask for identification. And if you don't have any on you, they won't sell it to you.

Cruor
August 17th, 2016, 12:22 PM
talking about movies reminds me again i want to see sausage party

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it looked funny from commercials

2Bad
August 17th, 2016, 12:22 PM
I don't

black1blade
August 17th, 2016, 12:23 PM
They ask for identification. And if you don't have any on you, they won't sell it to you.
How does one get this identification?

Skull
August 17th, 2016, 12:24 PM
How does one get this identification?
Passport, driver's licence etc etc.

Five_X
August 17th, 2016, 12:24 PM
How does one get this identification?

dude

man

guy

think about it

edit: yes, what sir Skull said.

Skull
August 17th, 2016, 12:24 PM
Basically anything that has your DOB and your mug on it.

black1blade
August 17th, 2016, 12:25 PM
I'm a 175 cm, 62 kg slightly thicker twig.

Cruor
August 17th, 2016, 12:26 PM
I've seen people get away with using college ids

black1blade
August 17th, 2016, 12:26 PM
Well fuck I don't have any of those things.

Skull
August 17th, 2016, 12:26 PM
I've seen people get away with using college ids
I tried that once. Didn't work.

Cruor
August 17th, 2016, 12:27 PM
I'm a 175 cm, 62 kg slightly thicker twig.

oh god im 10 cm taller and i weigh less D:

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I tried that once. Didn't work.

well, it was states so maybe that

Spinach
August 17th, 2016, 12:28 PM
Average height of a man in the UK is "5ft 9in (175.3cm)".

tiny island produces tiny people...

just Beamu
August 17th, 2016, 12:29 PM
oh god im 10 cm taller and i weigh less D:
Eat a cow

black1blade
August 17th, 2016, 12:31 PM
I mean I might be taller, I have measured my height for ages but I don't feel like I've really frown for a while though...

Skull
August 17th, 2016, 12:38 PM
All these people using kg's for weight...

black1blade
August 17th, 2016, 12:42 PM
I'm just over 9 and a half stone.

Cruor
August 17th, 2016, 12:46 PM
All these people using kg's for weight...

I actually had to turn lbs and feet into your losers systems

its kinda annoying

Spinach
August 17th, 2016, 12:48 PM
just have your height/weight in both kg and lbs memorized

Snow
August 17th, 2016, 12:49 PM
Sad that some still have to use feet and stones as units of measurement like it's the middle ages.

Spinach
August 17th, 2016, 12:50 PM
Sad that some still have to use feet and stones as units of measurement like it's the middle ages.

backwards island

Cruor
August 17th, 2016, 12:50 PM
just have your height/weight in both kg and lbs memorized

my height doesn't change a lot, my weight however does

in a half a year i could lose another 5 kg or gain 10! it never goes above 150 lbs though and never goes below 130

Spinach
August 17th, 2016, 12:51 PM
just have your height/weight in both kg and lbs memorized

forgot to say inches/cm

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my height doesn't change a lot, my weight however does

in a half a year i could lose another 5 kg or gain 10! it never goes above 150 lbs though and never goes below 130

just keep a consistent weight ecks dee

just Beamu
August 17th, 2016, 12:54 PM
Sad that some still have to use feet and stones as units of measurement like it's the middle ages.
I too, long for the metric system.

Cruor
August 17th, 2016, 12:55 PM
Eat a cow

Here's the thing,, I can eat a cow. But I won't eat the next day as I won't be hungry.

Heck, I went to a buffet a few days ago, and for the last two days all I've taken in is a gallon and a half of white grape juice (I've somehow gotten addicted to this)

Spinach
August 17th, 2016, 12:57 PM
go out to eat

eat a cow

go home

eat another cow

just Beamu
August 17th, 2016, 12:57 PM
Here's the thing,, I can eat a cow. But I won't eat the next day as I won't be hungry.

Heck, I went to a buffet a few days ago, and for the last two days all I've taken in is a gallon and a half of white grape juice (I've somehow gotten addicted to this)
I mean so long as you don't continuously lose weight to the point of it being bad for your health it shouldn't be a problem

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go out to eat

eat a cow

go home

eat another cow
this tbh

Mooncake
August 17th, 2016, 01:01 PM
Eat spaghetti pizza

Eat more of it

Wake up with no weight gain

Snow
August 17th, 2016, 01:10 PM
The whole of yesterday I was subsiding solely on butternut squash soup.

It was good soup.

Cruor
August 17th, 2016, 01:16 PM
I mean so long as you don't continuously lose weight to the point of it being bad for your health it shouldn't be a problem

It actually isn't a danger at all, I just find it weird being a stick. Also I like to play tennis and being a stick does not help.

Oh actually. It was a problem last year.

I wasn't getting enough vitamins and I would go for a nap in the middle of the day and wake up 14-17 hours later. I would do that 2-3 days out of the week for about a month. It stopped after I changed eating habits after kirby and Lianru screamed at me.

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The whole of yesterday I was subsiding solely on butternut squash soup.

It was good soup.

I LOVE GRAPE JUICE ONLY DRINK GRAPE JUICE WHY ARE WE OUT OF GRAPE JUICE I DON'T WANT ORANGE OR SODA

just Beamu
August 17th, 2016, 01:18 PM
It actually isn't a danger at all, I just find it weird being a stick. Also I like to play tennis and being a stick does not help.

Oh actually. It was a problem last year.

I wasn't getting enough vitamins and I would go for a nap in the middle of the day and wake up 14-17 hours later. I would do that 2-3 days out of the week for about a month. It stopped after I changed eating habits after kirby and Lianru screamed at me.
Assuming you can avoid vitamin problems being a stick is fine

ILurkNoMoar
August 17th, 2016, 01:27 PM
go out to eat
eat a cow
go home
eat another cow
It's okay, cows are delicious.

Polly
August 17th, 2016, 01:27 PM
I am 168cm and 60kg. Need to lose weight

Snow
August 17th, 2016, 01:28 PM
I'm 163cm and currently around 53-55kg, I think.

Polly
August 17th, 2016, 01:30 PM
I *really* need to lose weight :(

Doesnt help that getting out of bed is what i now consider a great achievement

Five_X
August 17th, 2016, 01:30 PM
I *really* need to lose weight :(

Doesnt help that getting out of bed is what i now consider a great achievement

Well, we all know that you won't have any troubles not eating cows. :p

Snow
August 17th, 2016, 01:30 PM
I'll probably just keep putting on weight with my current level of physical activity but can't find it in me to care.

Polly
August 17th, 2016, 01:32 PM
I'll probably just keep putting on weight with my current level of physical activity but can't find it in me to care.

Maybe but i dont see how you could stop being pretty.

Meanwhile I want to lose weight to stop hating my body

Skull
August 17th, 2016, 01:33 PM
It's okay, cows are delicious.
*Looks out window, sees cows*

"Must resist...temptation!"

Polly
August 17th, 2016, 01:33 PM
Well, we all know that you won't have any troubles not eating cows. :p

Cows are incredibly docile, loveable, and cute animals, how can people eat them...? :(

SeiKeo
August 17th, 2016, 01:35 PM
Cows are incredibly docile, loveable, and cute animals, how can people eat them...? :(
The cow is only on the farm.

2Bad
August 17th, 2016, 01:36 PM
Cows are incredibly docile, loveable, and cute animals, how can people eat them...? :(

They're delicious, see also sheep

Five_X
August 17th, 2016, 01:39 PM
Cows are incredibly docile, loveable, and cute animals, how can people eat them...? :(

Meet my moo friends I made up in the Lake District!

http://i.imgur.com/gj2rnDV.jpg

They were so adorable and friendly. Almost as cute as the lambs I met.

Cruor
August 17th, 2016, 01:40 PM
I'll probably just keep putting on weight with my current level of physical activity but can't find it in me to care.

That's what you would think, but I lose weight! Well, I am back in school and working so probably more physical activity....!

Historia
August 17th, 2016, 01:40 PM
Meet my moo friends I made up in the Lake District!

​.

They were so adorable and friendly. Almost as cute as the lambs I met.

are you those bunch of weeds in the middle there

Snow
August 17th, 2016, 01:41 PM
Turkeys are fucking evil so maybe I should eat just them.

Mooncake
August 17th, 2016, 01:44 PM
Turkeys aren't good without brining though

Polly
August 17th, 2016, 01:44 PM
God didn't make meat that tasty just to make wolves and lions happy.

Im a godless wench so i guess that explains it

ILurkNoMoar
August 17th, 2016, 01:46 PM
I should start working out more, but I'm just so lazy.

2Bad
August 17th, 2016, 01:48 PM
We have incisors and fangs, not wall to wall molars, eat fucking animals

Snow
August 17th, 2016, 01:49 PM
Maybe we have fangs so we can bite people gently.

Five_X
August 17th, 2016, 01:49 PM
are you those bunch of weeds in the middle there

I'm too fat to be a skinny little weed. :(

Strife ❤️
August 17th, 2016, 01:49 PM
I'm 52kg

2Bad
August 17th, 2016, 01:49 PM
Maybe we have fangs so we can bite people gently.

If you don't leave marks you're not doing it right