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Snow
August 27th, 2016, 01:35 PM
“As Leonardo, accompanied by [his friend] Giovanni di Gavina, was passing the Spini Bank, near the church of Santa Trinità, several notables were assembled who were discussing a passage in Dante and seeing Leonardo, they asked him to come and explain it to them.


At the same moment Michelangelo passed and, one of the crowd calling to him, Leonardo said: ‘Michelangelo will be able to tell you what it means.’ To which Michelangelo, thinking this had been said to entrap him, replied: ‘No, explain it yourself, horse-modeller that you are, who, unable to cast a statue in bronze, were forced to give up the attempt in shame.’ So saying, he turned his back on them and left. Leonardo remained silent and blushed at these words.” (quoted in The Notebooks of Leonardo da Vinci, Oxford University Press, 1952, trans. Irma A. Richter, p.356 )


m-moe

SeiKeo
August 27th, 2016, 02:10 PM
http://i.imgur.com/j1b5bTc.png

actually a fucking unreal final exam question

Snow
August 27th, 2016, 02:17 PM
Maybe I'd know if it was Europe.

Vacha
August 27th, 2016, 02:26 PM
Finally i know the name of the band of those groovy song courtesy of Gaybeamu, thxs.

just Beamu
August 27th, 2016, 02:36 PM
What did I do now

GhostDIGIT
August 27th, 2016, 02:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKRDmk4dmcY
This was hilarious.

Strife ❤️
August 27th, 2016, 03:55 PM
mac do you have the breitbart t shirt (https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0877/4420/products/breitbart-store2-backgroundimage-mobile-768x768_grande.jpg?v=1467901928)

Five_X
August 27th, 2016, 04:08 PM
Maybe I'd know if it was Europe.

Translation: What if Hitler won, and asked you to commission his new Großer Reichspalace in the ruins of London.

Snow
August 27th, 2016, 04:14 PM
Translation: What if Hitler won, and asked you to commission his new Großer Reichspalace in the ruins of London.

Speer and lackeys.

Spinach
August 27th, 2016, 04:16 PM
Translation: What if Hitler won, and asked you to commission his new Großer Reichspalace in the ruins of London.

excuse me this is offensive

Snow
August 27th, 2016, 04:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMPUVbNn5ME

Strife ❤️
August 27th, 2016, 04:24 PM
yea well just try to kick me reaper i'll raise my apm

Historia
August 27th, 2016, 05:58 PM
wat

GhostDIGIT
August 27th, 2016, 06:03 PM
overwatch

Strife ❤️
August 27th, 2016, 06:08 PM
garfield

Historia
August 27th, 2016, 06:19 PM
garfield

reapfield

ok

just Beamu
August 27th, 2016, 07:11 PM
Garfield Kart

AsGryffynn
August 28th, 2016, 12:20 AM
Halo

ILurkNoMoar
August 28th, 2016, 04:00 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeNJFz-WCZs

Hugh Mungus, a hero to us all.

Strife ❤️
August 28th, 2016, 07:52 AM
https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/eyJ1cmwiOiJodHRwOi8vaS5pbWd1ci5jb20vc0VhS3h0Vi5qcG cifQ.5O0Ag1i-82be-4EEJWqJnfeQrRQ.jpg

Five_X
August 28th, 2016, 08:26 AM
Ignore mother, become red.

GhostDIGIT
August 28th, 2016, 08:30 AM
but his mother is russia

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i hate myself for making that joke

Dullahan
August 28th, 2016, 08:33 AM
'joke'

GhostDIGIT
August 28th, 2016, 08:37 AM
weird thing i said would fit better

Snow
August 28th, 2016, 08:38 AM
it was a, uh, low hanging apple, so to say

Strife ❤️
August 28th, 2016, 08:39 AM
http://images.mapsofworld.com/allwonders/Mother-Motherland.jpg

Snow
August 28th, 2016, 08:41 AM
http://i.imgur.com/gdisa01.png

Five_X
August 28th, 2016, 08:43 AM
http://images.mapsofworld.com/allwonders/Mother-Motherland.jpg

Mother Russia, a huge Saber class Servant with rank EX Territory Creation. #fatego

Zurvan
August 28th, 2016, 08:44 AM
Grand Saber identity exposed

Historia
August 28th, 2016, 08:56 AM
Grand Saber is gonna be kid Arturia with an oversized fur coat and golden crown.

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Also this guy has good music:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ojod-GOvcYs

Thanks Naruto.

Snow
August 28th, 2016, 09:05 AM
Need/Want (https://otakumode.com/shop/57bea68321e439b630761dec/Neko-Atsume-Walking-Pose-Big-Plushies)

GhostDIGIT
August 28th, 2016, 09:07 AM
awwww

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It's so cuuuute!

Historia
August 28th, 2016, 09:08 AM
I'd buy it just to burn it.

GhostDIGIT
August 28th, 2016, 09:09 AM
do it and i'll burn you at the stake

Snow
August 28th, 2016, 09:11 AM
http://i.imgur.com/iqu8o8g.gif

GhostDIGIT
August 28th, 2016, 09:12 AM
I do not understand this gif.

Zurvan
August 28th, 2016, 09:13 AM
I'd buy it just to burn it.

do it and i'll burn you at the stake

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_sY2rjxq6M

Historia
August 28th, 2016, 09:15 AM
do it and i'll burn you at the stake

going out in style

GhostDIGIT
August 28th, 2016, 09:17 AM
Weird preferred method of execution but eh.

Historia
August 28th, 2016, 09:18 AM
and now i'm reminded of part of the last scene in army of angels during jeanne's burning where the skin of her legs is peeling off her body and she can see blackened bits of bone underneath as, uh, yeahh

Snow
August 28th, 2016, 09:19 AM
and now i'm reminded of part of the last scene in army of angels during jeanne's burning where the skin of her legs is peeling off her body and she can see blackened bits of bone underneath as, uh, yeahh
http://i.imgur.com/iqu8o8g.gif

asterism42
August 28th, 2016, 09:19 AM
Like, I think when they burned people at the stake they treated the wood in such as way that the victim wouldn't die of smoke inhalation.

Historia
August 28th, 2016, 09:24 AM
it was pretty imagery

that was a good book

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i liked the author's depiction of a feistier jeanne. she was such a smartass i loved it

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and yeah they treated the wood

Laserman
August 28th, 2016, 09:25 AM
Like, I think when they burned people at the stake they treated the wood in such as way that the victim wouldn't die of smoke inhalation.
That's horrible.

asterism42
August 28th, 2016, 09:27 AM
It's not meant to be a quick and merciful death.

Historia
August 28th, 2016, 09:32 AM
but yeah no jeanne died of smoke inhalation

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after the flames had reached past her pelvis and burned through her intestines, thereabouts

Snow
August 28th, 2016, 09:34 AM
i've had enough of this motherfucking edge in this motherfucking thread

Zurvan
August 28th, 2016, 09:38 AM
http://www.underconsideration.com/brandnew/archives/microsoft_edge_logo_detail.png

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use a different browser kids

Historia
August 28th, 2016, 09:39 AM
but i dunno if i'd call it edge so much as how she actually died and that it was horrible

that being said i really liked the imagery of her blood sizzling as it happened

and when i think of that for some reason i want a berserk novelization with lots of blood and guts and hack'n'slash

GhostDIGIT
August 28th, 2016, 09:39 AM
Chrome or chrome home.

Zurvan
August 28th, 2016, 09:43 AM
but i dunno if i'd call it edge


that being said i really liked the imagery of her blood sizzling as it happened

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Chrome or chrome home.

Ghost knows best

GhostDIGIT
August 28th, 2016, 09:45 AM
Ghost knows best
I do indeed.

Historia
August 28th, 2016, 09:46 AM
[]

yes, and ?

it's beautiful imagery

Snow
August 28th, 2016, 10:09 AM
SBJ

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guess I'll have to learn how to draw fur somehow.

AsGryffynn
August 28th, 2016, 01:57 PM
Mother Russia, a huge Saber class Servant with rank EX Territory Creation. #fatego

Even then I won't play the damned thing until we witness Grand Archer General Winter and his skyscraper rifle!

Zurvan
August 28th, 2016, 01:59 PM
Are you talking about who I think you're talking about? [Is that still a reason for a ban?]

Snow
August 28th, 2016, 02:00 PM
No I think he's talking about a Fallout 4 guy.

just Beamu
August 28th, 2016, 02:01 PM
Are you talking about who I think you're talking about? [Is that still a reason for a ban?]
You're assuming a level of coherency

Crown
August 28th, 2016, 02:01 PM
Anyone willing to lend me a weibo account for a few minutes? Registering is a pain in the ass, and recovering one (my case) is even worse.

Zurvan
August 28th, 2016, 02:06 PM
Oh, apparently it's just this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Winter

just Beamu
August 28th, 2016, 06:31 PM
How does one strain their neck while having done nothing

Zurvan
August 28th, 2016, 06:32 PM
Earlier injury is a likely possibility. Sudden movements are also a possibility

just Beamu
August 28th, 2016, 06:34 PM
literally nothing happened tho

Five_X
August 28th, 2016, 06:36 PM
Must be an Assassin who tried to kill you yet failed. Be lucky you yet live.

You
August 28th, 2016, 06:38 PM
Anyone willing to lend me a weibo account for a few minutes? Registering is a pain in the ass, and recovering one (my case) is even worse.
would if i could

You
August 28th, 2016, 08:38 PM
thinking of making a "post your bookmarks thread"
do people still use those or are those for lame ppl like me.

asterism42
August 28th, 2016, 08:38 PM
The only time I use bookmarks is for articles I want to cite when I'm writing papers for uni.

Zurvan
August 28th, 2016, 08:39 PM
I use them but, do you think lots of people will share that info?

just Beamu
August 28th, 2016, 08:40 PM
I memorize everything so that bookmarks cease to be a necessity

Snow
August 28th, 2016, 08:42 PM
I have a bunch. Wonder what kind of picture would they paint of me.

You
August 28th, 2016, 08:42 PM
do you think lots of people will share that info?
therefore this

Snow
August 28th, 2016, 08:43 PM
Mine aren't lewd cause you never know who I'll have to use your computer eh.

just Beamu
August 28th, 2016, 08:44 PM
I have a bunch. Wonder what kind of picture would they paint of me.
my first guess is architecture, music and lewds

Zurvan
August 28th, 2016, 08:45 PM
Mine are mostly for convenience's sake or just silliness

just Beamu
August 28th, 2016, 08:45 PM
Mine aren't lewd cause you never know who I'll have to use your computer eh.
clever girl

Snow
August 28th, 2016, 08:45 PM
I have a palingenesis bookmark

Zurvan
August 28th, 2016, 08:45 PM
my first guess is architecture, music and lewds

thinking that Snow is a lewdie how dare
rude

just Beamu
August 28th, 2016, 08:48 PM
rewd

SeiKeo
August 28th, 2016, 08:54 PM
not still having bookmarks

http://i.imgur.com/btdX8gj.png

2Bad
August 28th, 2016, 08:55 PM
At times one must wonder what "baiting" truly means

Zurvan
August 28th, 2016, 08:56 PM
Surely it is done out of "genuine love"

Kirby
August 28th, 2016, 08:58 PM
I don't have folders for the bookmarks bar because I like it when it's all colorful from the icons.

black1blade
August 28th, 2016, 09:02 PM
That moment when it's 2 in the morning, you can't sleep and you just want to talk to people to take your mind off it. You're in 10 discords but only 1 of them is active and they tell you to fuck off if you aren't spewing memes. This is my life.

just Beamu
August 29th, 2016, 12:58 AM
neck spontaneously healed

praise

Strife ❤️
August 29th, 2016, 01:17 AM
I actually don't have any bookmarks except like a few frequently visited sites such as this

mAc Chaos
August 29th, 2016, 01:19 AM
I just have one giant "other bookmarks" folder that I dump everything into.

SeiKeo
August 29th, 2016, 01:19 AM
It's like when you like something on twitter basically

mAc Chaos
August 29th, 2016, 01:20 AM
lol yeah

Strife ❤️
August 29th, 2016, 01:22 AM
Show us some items from your clothes + gear folder bro

SeiKeo
August 29th, 2016, 01:28 AM
it's just random websites so i don't forget where i got shit once or smth, uhhh

http://stiffsalt.com/collections/our-products

https://www.homesickcandles.com/

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like i have uniqlo and uo this is not a high level folder

Raylen Cypher
August 29th, 2016, 01:30 AM
https://www.homesickcandles.com/

Home sick candles?

2Bad
August 29th, 2016, 01:32 AM
The internet keeps trying to get me into grocery haul videos

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I shall not succumb

SeiKeo
August 29th, 2016, 01:32 AM
need a keychain tho

just Beamu
August 29th, 2016, 01:33 AM
The internet keeps trying to get me into grocery haul videos


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I shall not succumb
succumb to british food reviewers

Crown
August 29th, 2016, 02:32 AM
would if i could
there's no helping it I guess.

damn this shit network.

Zurvan
August 29th, 2016, 08:13 AM
Would you play a Dark Souls style Holy Grail War game?

GhostDIGIT
August 29th, 2016, 08:15 AM
Hells yeah.

AsGryffynn
August 29th, 2016, 08:19 AM
Would you play a Dark Souls style Holy Grail War game?

Only if there's a VA overhaul or gets dubbed in English, otherwise, nay!

Would you play a 3D FGO RPG if Bethesda created it?

Snow
August 29th, 2016, 08:25 AM
RPG with a semblance of a story?

Bethesda?

PHAH

just Beamu
August 29th, 2016, 08:27 AM
but 3D waifus and husbandos

Five_X
August 29th, 2016, 08:31 AM
Beth games are good guilty pleasures, I play them when I need to turn my brain off and feel good about myself.

Snow
August 29th, 2016, 08:34 AM
They're more geared towards exploration than telling a coherent story.

Obsidian did both quite well.

Dullahan
August 29th, 2016, 08:38 AM
>holy grail war
>dark souls combat

if you think these two things go together, consider what it is you're admitting to

I3uster
August 29th, 2016, 08:39 AM
As much as Obsidian tend to deliver in the story department NV wouldn't have been as good as it ended up being without Bethesda.

theres something about games that actually have fun gameplay

GhostDIGIT
August 29th, 2016, 08:39 AM
If you mean FNV, not really on the exploration side.

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It was okay but eh.

Historia
August 29th, 2016, 08:40 AM
Neverwinter Nights 2 yo

GhostDIGIT
August 29th, 2016, 08:41 AM
>holy grail war
>dark souls combat

if you think these two things go together, consider what it is you're admitting to
we get to play as shirou or rin

prepare to die many many times

2Bad
August 29th, 2016, 08:41 AM
As much as Obsidian tend to deliver in the story department NV wouldn't have been as good as it ended up being without Bethesda.

theres something about games that actually have fun gameplay

You're right, NV would have been far better because it would have had a real engine and actual QA.

I3uster
August 29th, 2016, 08:42 AM
You're right, NV would have been far better because it would have had a real engine and actual QA.

its time to admit that iso-rpgs are often good games but that's because they are well written and their gameplay sucks

Dullahan
August 29th, 2016, 08:42 AM
we get to play as shirou or rin

prepare to die many many times

it's worse than I thought

GhostDIGIT
August 29th, 2016, 08:43 AM
it's worse than I thought
oh shaddap

Historia
August 29th, 2016, 08:43 AM
and if it's a holy grail war with dark souls combat i'd rather be lancer and go around fighting the other servants than getting stomped as shirou or rin

Snow
August 29th, 2016, 08:43 AM
I like iso gameplay uguuu.

2Bad
August 29th, 2016, 08:44 AM
its time to admit that iso-rpgs are often good games but that's because they are well written and their gameplay sucks

Oh boy, we're back to this again!

GhostDIGIT
August 29th, 2016, 08:44 AM
I like the first two Fallouts' gameplay despite how shit it is.

I guess I just really like shooting people in the balls.

I3uster
August 29th, 2016, 08:45 AM
I like iso gameplay uguuu.

have you tried coin flipping

2Bad
August 29th, 2016, 08:45 AM
What if you like it because it's not actually shit

Snow
August 29th, 2016, 08:46 AM
have you tried coin flipping

wHat

I3uster
August 29th, 2016, 08:47 AM
wHat

its like rolling dice except you can do it on the go

2Bad
August 29th, 2016, 08:47 AM
have you tried coin flipping

You always try to bring up "waaah, random chance" and I wonder if you've ever actually played a Bethesda game because they're filled with RNG calculations.

Hell, FO4 brought random checks back after NV replaced them with threshold checks.

I3uster
August 29th, 2016, 08:49 AM
You always try to bring up "waaah, random chance" and I wonder if you've ever actually played a Bethesda game because they're filled with RNG calculations.

Hell, FO4 brought random checks back after NV replaced them with threshold checks.

Random chance by itself isn't bad, when it constitutes the entirety of your success or failure chance it's kind of bad though. That's the problem in trying to port TRPG to the PC (which is what most iso-rpgs were trying to do not only per system but also per mission statement) because it basically means you're playing with the most anal gm of all time, THE MACHINE

Snow
August 29th, 2016, 08:50 AM
Actually

I like isometric RPGs because I like playing shepherd/god. Not because of the rulesets cause I never payed much attention to that, admittedly.

I3uster
August 29th, 2016, 08:52 AM
Actually

I like isometric RPGs because I like playing shepherd/god. Not because of the rulesets cause I never payed much attention to that, admittedly.

The rulesets suck dick that's why NV is so good, it does away with that by using FO3 gameplay.

Snow
August 29th, 2016, 08:53 AM
the pains of a trpg-less youth

I3uster
August 29th, 2016, 08:54 AM
play trpg online

less body odor

Snow
August 29th, 2016, 08:55 AM
I played yahtzee

that's about the same right?

I3uster
August 29th, 2016, 08:55 AM
depends on how dramatic you get

Zurvan
August 29th, 2016, 08:56 AM
>holy grail war
>dark souls combat

if you think these two things go together, consider what it is you're admitting to

dark souls style as in bloody and no hand holding.
I never said combat, you need something faster for that, and if you have something to add you can say it.
It's like something like this exists or will exist most likely.

Spinach
August 29th, 2016, 08:57 AM
theres something about games that actually have fun gameplay

Yeah.

2Bad
August 29th, 2016, 08:57 AM
Random chance by itself isn't bad, when it constitutes the entirety of your success or failure
Aaaand stopping you there.

This would be the case if it were actually flipping a coin. In rpgs however, you have a wide variety of strategic decisions in how you train and equip your party, and tactical decisions on what to in combat itself, all of which drastically influence success or failure in combat.

I3uster
August 29th, 2016, 08:58 AM
Aaaand stopping you there.

This would be the case if it were actually flipping a coin. In rpgs however, you have a wide variety of strategic decisions in how you train and equip your party, and tactical decisions on what to in combat itself, all of which drastically influence success or failure in combat.

spotted the person who never played fallout

2Bad
August 29th, 2016, 08:59 AM
I'm sure all that 3 you played was really impressive i3, but you see, there are other FO games.

Snow
August 29th, 2016, 09:00 AM
What I dislike about Obsidian is that they start fangirling a (usually extremely annoying) character and express that by having them ramble about philosophy and making your character look bad.

GhostDIGIT
August 29th, 2016, 09:02 AM
What I dislike about Obsidian is that they start fangirling a (usually extremely annoying) character and express that by having them ramble about philosophy and making your character look bad.
Ulysses and Kreia, right?

2Bad
August 29th, 2016, 09:02 AM
I've heard they do that in Pillars but can otherwise think of no example.

Unless you hate Kreia in which case well

I3uster
August 29th, 2016, 09:02 AM
for everyone who did not play fallout, lategame fallout gameplay involves being incredibly heavily armored to the point where pretty much any attack causes a 1-4 hp dent except a critical hit which ignores armor and kills instantly

your contingency and tactical planning regarding these circumstances involve:

having high LCK

thank you for playing

2Bad
August 29th, 2016, 09:02 AM
Oh yeah Ulysses, I never did actually play LR.

Snow
August 29th, 2016, 09:03 AM
I've heard they do that in Pillars but can otherwise think of no example.

Unless you hate Kreia in which case well

I don't hate her but she did get annoying. Then in NV there's that black guy nemesis of yours.

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Yeah, him.

GhostDIGIT
August 29th, 2016, 09:04 AM
I don't hate her but she did get annoying. Then in NV there's that black guy nemesis of yours.
"You unintentionally and indirectly nuked my new home, prepare to die."

2Bad
August 29th, 2016, 09:05 AM
Though calling him your nemesis when he's an extreme background presence outside of LR is somewhat exaggerated.

Plus unlike Bethesda, Obsidian lets you murder those characters.

Snow
August 29th, 2016, 09:06 AM
Though calling him your nemesis when he's an extreme background presence outside of LR is somewhat exaggerated.

Plus unlike Bethesda, Obsidian lets you murder those characters.

He considers himself your nemesis iirc.

Marmadillo
August 29th, 2016, 09:06 AM
your contingency and tactical planning regarding these circumstances involve:

having high LCK

thank you for playing
Well, I just melted them from afar usually

2Bad
August 29th, 2016, 09:07 AM
He considers himself your nemesis iirc.

He does, yes.

mAc Chaos
August 29th, 2016, 09:08 AM
I played yahtzee

that's about the same right?

Board games cause more drama than any RPG I've ever seen, lmao.

Fucking board games.

2Bad
August 29th, 2016, 09:08 AM
The good WRPG developers:
Obsidian
Harebrained Schemes
CDProjeckt
Spiderweb if you've got the doublecrazies

I3uster
August 29th, 2016, 09:09 AM
Well, I just melted them from afar usually
well yeah if youre small guns you have sniper which makes you crit all the time or just cheese shit with the pulse rifle the game becomes rather trivial as the element of RNG is now on your side but one can hope theres a middle ground in game design between "random bullshit makes me win" and "random bullshit makes me lose" that has a bigger factor of player involvement

Snow
August 29th, 2016, 09:10 AM
What did Projekt work on that's not Witcher?

2Bad
August 29th, 2016, 09:12 AM
"why is this character I built well/badly winning/losing too much, my decisions influence nothing!"

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What did Projekt work on that's not Witcher?

They're making Cyberpunk but W3 is the best wrpg ever made so I think I can put them on the list.

Zurvan
August 29th, 2016, 09:12 AM
What did Projekt work on that's not Witcher?

I think they're making cyberpunk
otherwise just Witcher games

I3uster
August 29th, 2016, 09:12 AM
I wish there was actually a good WRPG around that could do away with TRPG fetishism while retaining actual RPing qualities but then I realize that NV already exists and something like it will probably not happen again since the line in the sand is drawn now and the people interested in a good RPing experience got swallowed up by nostalgia fueled KS projects and fanbases that think Excel tables are the main ingredient to an enjoyable Saturday evening.

Seika
August 29th, 2016, 09:13 AM
I've heard they do that in Pillars but can otherwise think of no example.

Unless you hate Kreia in which case well
Both of the rambling philosophical characters in Pillars are also clearly crazy people (whether you think their actions were justified or not) and don't make you look bad.

I3uster
August 29th, 2016, 09:14 AM
"why is this character I built well/badly winning/losing too much, my decisions influence nothing!"

built well is literally just maxing crits

is this the deep immersion iso-rpg players crave

max crits or die

Snow
August 29th, 2016, 09:15 AM
Durance kept insulting my integrity.

GhostDIGIT
August 29th, 2016, 09:16 AM
Both of the rambling philosophical characters in Pillars are also clearly crazy people (whether you think their actions were justified or not) and don't make you look bad.
I can only remember the big bad being a rambling lunatic, who was the other guy?

AsGryffynn
August 29th, 2016, 09:17 AM
RPG with a semblance of a story?

Bethesda?

PHAH

Better than what Delight Shite is doing to it right now...


but 3D waifus and husbandos

Protagonist: Thanks for hearing me out Archer...

A - Thanks
B - Don't get soft on me
X - Sarcastic (Archer)
Y - I am always here for you...


I like the first two Fallouts' gameplay despite how shit it is.

I guess I just really like shooting people in the balls.

You can do that in F4!


You always try to bring up "waaah, random chance" and I wonder if you've ever actually played a Bethesda game because they're filled with RNG calculations.

Hell, FO4 brought random checks back after NV replaced them with threshold checks.

Err, F4 uses Charisma checks. I have no idea what mathcamp bro is attending...


dark souls style as in bloody and no hand holding.
I never said combat, you need something faster for that, and if you have something to add you can say it.
It's like something like this exists or will exist most likely.

So Halo 5 Arena? As in "OHMAIGAWDWHATTHEFUCKISIJUSTDIED!" fast?


Ulysses and Kreia, right?

Pretty sure he's talking about Veronica...


Though calling him your nemesis when he's an extreme background presence outside of LR is somewhat exaggerated.

Plus unlike Bethesda, Obsidian lets you murder those characters.

I murdered Maxson for his coat. Isn't that good enough?

Snow
August 29th, 2016, 09:22 AM
One might argue that I wasn't using the term 'fangirling' with full seriousness.

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That said, she was one of my favorite party members over both games. So there's that.

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But the whole 'your character did something TERRIBLE before the game and doesn't remember doing it. Feel bad now.', whoooa boy. Yeah it was in the first game, but the whole aspect of forcing blame was somehow less obvious.

2Bad
August 29th, 2016, 09:22 AM
Really, felating a particular character and insulting the player is more Bioware's thing than Obsidian

Snow
August 29th, 2016, 09:25 AM
Really, felating a particular character and insulting the player is more Bioware's thing than Obsidian

It must've been something I glossed over then. Before Solas, that is.

2Bad
August 29th, 2016, 09:29 AM
It must've been something I glossed over then. Before Solas, that is.

Bastilla comes to mind

Snow
August 29th, 2016, 09:30 AM
For different reasons, but I would say they worked both times to an extent.

Even Kotor1, with its pretty glaring flaws in the narration, managed to contextualise and fully define what Revan had done as a Sith, enough that you couldn't by the end just limit it at "i used to wear a mask, who cares".
Although unfortunately Kotor was really constant about making of Revan the ultimate ONIISAMA, so I guess the player's response was much more likely to be "holy shit im force jesus".


In 2 you have... uuuh... Bao-Dur, I guess, as a constant reminder of your actions? Unfortunately he doesn't do or say much because he's a walking dead so you tend to forget him.
Oh and that fucking flashback session on Korriban which you literally cannot play if you do a grey side playthrough fuck you game
The whole location that is Malachor V, too.

Seika
August 29th, 2016, 09:30 AM
I can only remember the big bad being a rambling lunatic, who was the other guy?
I meant Durance and Grieving Mother. Fair enough on theThaos point though, even if the same applies to him ten times over. (No character telling you that, "My master plan for peace and stability over the last decade has been to rip out the souls of hundreds of thousands of unborn babies in the service of gods I know to be false" can possibly be called sane).


Really, felating a particular character and insulting the player is more Bioware's thing than Obsidian
BioWare fellates the player character far more than anything else.

Snow
August 29th, 2016, 09:36 AM
The party of 1 was an assortment of space cliches of the most basic kind, but you could take that for what it was worth. Then 2 started out really promising but ended up giving you basically anime cliches instead of space ones and, other than Kreia carrying her weight as a character, and maybe Bao and HK, if there was an option to space your whole crew I'd be tempted at times.

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implying that malachor v was a game location :^)

It was a cutscene location, fair.

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I conveniently forgot Atris, a much more convenient example for the wanking.

GhostDIGIT
August 29th, 2016, 09:38 AM
I meant Durance and Grieving Mother. Fair enough on theThaos point though, even if the same applies to him ten times over. (No character telling you that, "My master plan for peace and stability over the last decade has been to rip out the souls of hundreds of thousands of unborn babies in the service of gods I know to be false" can possibly be called sane).
I never played Pillars with the actual companions they designed. Might try to someday if I can get past going through the main plot again.

Snow
August 29th, 2016, 09:41 AM
Hanhaar is cool, Atton isn't too bad, Disciple is slightly less of a snore than he looks at first, Visas is my wife, Canderous as the leader of a doomed people is more interesting than as some random merc following you because ???


let us please ignore handmaiden and bounty hunter lady
Fair for Mandalore but the rest could get pretty damn annoying at times.

2Bad
August 29th, 2016, 09:42 AM
Arris is beautiful, strong, and space

Snow
August 29th, 2016, 09:43 AM
Unless I misunderstand you, I don't see it. Atris is clearly shown to be wrong from the start, and the only person willing to defend her is Handmaiden, who's in full stockholm

Being the game's postergirl for some reason, along with Nihlus. But yeah, misguiding advertisement hah.

2Bad
August 29th, 2016, 09:44 AM
Anders was such a tragic creature, with a storyline with depth and pathos

Snow
August 29th, 2016, 09:46 AM
Anders was such a tragic creature, with a storyline with depth and pathos

Yeah I though Anders was bad but then Anders 2.0 came in Inquisition.

Seika
August 29th, 2016, 09:47 AM
Best example of an NPC going, "No, PC, I am the awesome and you are the dumb" was Jade Empire's (second) plot twist. You cruise along the predictable plot beats of an utterly predictable wuxia story, forgiving it because it's the first time they've dipped into those waters, and then a minor twist tries to freshen it up while still keeping clearly within established bounds. You think that's the big revelation, adjust to the new path, and then the game jumps out of the bushes at the side of the road, yells "SUCKER", and punches you in the face. It's great.

2Bad
August 29th, 2016, 09:48 AM
ME2 had some pretty terrible companions. Game REALLY wants you to like Miranda.

Marmadillo
August 29th, 2016, 09:49 AM
see I've played all of those games and can't remember shit
i feel bad

I3uster
August 29th, 2016, 09:49 AM
ME2 had some pretty terrible companions. Game REALLY wants you to like Miranda.

Jack is probably the worst offender.

she looks tough, but maybe shes soft, inside?

2Bad
August 29th, 2016, 09:49 AM
I cannot, for the life of me, think of a Jade Empire character I gave a fuck about.

Snow
August 29th, 2016, 09:50 AM
anime irreparably corrupted bioware-chan

2Bad
August 29th, 2016, 09:50 AM
Jack is probably the worst offender.

she looks tough, but maybe shes soft, inside?

Fuck me I forgot about Jack. I still think Miranda might be worse though.

Zurvan
August 29th, 2016, 09:51 AM
Nah Jack is worse

GhostDIGIT
August 29th, 2016, 09:51 AM
ME2 had some pretty terrible companions. Game REALLY wants you to like Miranda.
She's genetically perfect or some shit like that.

I3uster
August 29th, 2016, 09:51 AM
Maybe, she's just such a Jacob non-character that I can't even get actively mad at her.

Zurvan
August 29th, 2016, 09:51 AM
If only her personality was

Snow
August 29th, 2016, 09:51 AM
Nah Jack is worse

Yeah. Miranda is at least mentally stable.

2Bad
August 29th, 2016, 09:52 AM
One of these days I am going to sit down, play through BG1-ToB again, and dispel the notion that I ever really liked Bioware.

Snow
August 29th, 2016, 09:54 AM
You quite openly dislike BW so I see no such notion being in place?

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being a fan of companies is a bad idea anyhow

Marmadillo
August 29th, 2016, 09:54 AM
Ignoring the obligatory ass mention, I liked Miranda for that half-an-hour of gameplay before it turned out that
Aren't they all soft inside though? Maybe except Grunt.

Snow
August 29th, 2016, 09:55 AM
Aren't they all soft inside though? Maybe except Grunt.

Grunt is a precious baby puppy who is perfect the way he is.

2Bad
August 29th, 2016, 09:55 AM
I dislike modern Bioware and never liked Jade Empire, but my memory still says "nah, the old shit, that was good." This myth took a big hit after watching a recent playthrough of Kotor1 which was just... just terrible. Although HK was still pretty good and Canderous was actually even better than I remembered.

I3uster
August 29th, 2016, 09:55 AM
fucked up that grunt never gets to call you mommy or daddy tbh

Snow
August 29th, 2016, 09:55 AM
yeah but disliking bioware in 2k16 is a given

I don't have strong feelings on them either way.

GhostDIGIT
August 29th, 2016, 09:55 AM
I dislike modern Bioware and never liked Jade Empire, but my memory still says "nah, the old shit, that was good." This myth took a big hit after watching a recent playthrough of Kotor1 which was just... just terrible. Although HK was still pretty good and Canderous was actually even better than I remembered.
Spoiler Warning?

2Bad
August 29th, 2016, 09:56 AM
Oh and I did like ME1 (like, not love). Grunt sucked because he was a stand-in for Wrex that could never fill the void.

Snow
August 29th, 2016, 09:56 AM
fucked up that grunt never gets to call you mommy or daddy tbh

I wanted him to call me Big Sis.

I3uster
August 29th, 2016, 09:58 AM
I just hate Bioware because I thought ME was going to be my favorite vidya series of all time after playing ME1 in my uncorrupted and youthful optimism.

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so basically i should probably hate EA more

good thing that i do

2Bad
August 29th, 2016, 09:58 AM
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland in search of better RPGs? - The first History Major

Zurvan
August 29th, 2016, 09:58 AM
Oh and I did like ME1 (like, not love). Grunt sucked because he was a stand-in for Wrex that could never fill the void.

I know, still, while Grunt never filled that hole I did warm up to him. That's more than I can say about other characters

2Bad
August 29th, 2016, 09:59 AM
Poland. The answer is Poland.

Snow
August 29th, 2016, 10:00 AM
Poland. The answer is Poland.

Key question: what if I want to play as cute girl?

Spinach
August 29th, 2016, 10:00 AM
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland in search of better RPGs? - The first History Major

Another genre.

2Bad
August 29th, 2016, 10:01 AM
Key question: what if I want to play as cute girl?
You play as Ciri at several points in W3, including a segment in the climax.

Also presumably you'll get your shot in Cyberpunk since it's based on a tabletop setting instead of novels.

Snow
August 29th, 2016, 10:02 AM
You play as Ciri at several point in W3, including a segment in climax.

.

Seika
August 29th, 2016, 10:02 AM
As someone who still plays the Bhaalspawn Saga on a semi-regular basis:

BGI is fun in toto but bad in a good 80% of the particulars.
BGII is a lot better but still needs to lean heavily on its gameplay, Irenicus, and mods to be good.
ToB is flat bad in almost every respect.

2Bad
August 29th, 2016, 10:03 AM
Key question: what if I want to play as cute girl?
Alternatively, play Cyber Sleuth.

Zurvan
August 29th, 2016, 10:03 AM
Also presumably you'll get your shot in Cyberpunk since it's based on a tabletop setting instead of novels.

Will you survive if cyberpunk turns out to be a disappointment?

Snow
August 29th, 2016, 10:04 AM
It already looks p disappointing.

2Bad
August 29th, 2016, 10:04 AM
Will you survive if cyberpunk turns out to be a disappointment?
I mean I hated W1, don't care about 2, and Harebrained is going to crank out Shadowrun games for awhile yet presumably, so probably.

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It already looks p disappointing.
We've seen effectively nothing of it?

Snow
August 29th, 2016, 10:06 AM
'Okay let's make Blade Runner, but as a Video Game!'

w

o

w

Zurvan
August 29th, 2016, 10:06 AM
I think I've seen one trailer.
If that's already what makes a game disappointing then uh

2Bad
August 29th, 2016, 10:06 AM
'Okay let's make Blade Runner, but as a Video Game!'

w

o

w
We're talking about Cyberpun 2077, not Detroit.

Snow
August 29th, 2016, 10:07 AM
I think I've seen one trailer.
If that's already what makes a game disappointing then uh
Ask MG fans my friend.

2Bad
August 29th, 2016, 10:07 AM
I think I've seen one trailer.
If that's already what makes a game disappointing then uh
The sole trailer for the game iirc is the one they put out a few years ago that was literally to advertise for STAFF hirings for the project in fact.

GhostDIGIT
August 29th, 2016, 10:08 AM
I remember having more fun with BGI than BGII but that's just me.

Historia
August 29th, 2016, 10:08 AM
i think the only things i'm waiting for are star citizen and battlefield 1

Snow
August 29th, 2016, 10:08 AM
Well if they let me play as cute girl grumpy space cop, all is forgiven.

2Bad
August 29th, 2016, 10:09 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fziMrF_vJ6w
Cyber Sleuth fucks up quite a bit by having the final zone theme be better than the final boss theme

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Well if they let me play as cute girl grumpy space cop, all is forgiven.
in Cyber Sleuth you can be a cute girl cyber detective

Snow
August 29th, 2016, 10:11 AM
Cyber Sleuth

http://i.imgur.com/6QVElhF.png

Zurvan
August 29th, 2016, 10:12 AM
Ask MG fans my friend.

Metal Gear games other then revengeance and the older ones haven't been really good. Now it's more of a "yay another disappointing game incoming" even without the trailer. Maybe if a certain someone were to help make it things could be salvaged.

I3uster
August 29th, 2016, 10:12 AM
I'm not waiting on any games my backlog is still too big.

the only thing im waiting on is the soufian debut record

Snow
August 29th, 2016, 10:13 AM
Now it's more of a "yay another disappointing game incoming" even without the trailer.

This but every game.

Seika
August 29th, 2016, 10:13 AM
I remember having more fun with BGI than BGII but that's just me.
No, I totally see why. I don't think it's as good a game as BGII overall, but if you focus on some particular things as the areas on which a game stands or falls for you, then BGI definitely has its strengths.

When I started replaying BGI after a long time just doing BGII runs, I was really surprised at how fun it could be.

Zurvan
August 29th, 2016, 10:13 AM
i think the only things i'm waiting for are star citizen and battlefield 1

I wonder if BF1 will be good, let's hope for the best.

2Bad
August 29th, 2016, 10:15 AM
A non-Bad Company Battlefield game hmm I wonder if it will be good

Zurvan
August 29th, 2016, 10:15 AM
This but every game.

every MG or every upcoming game?

2Bad
August 29th, 2016, 10:15 AM
http://i.imgur.com/6QVElhF.png
If you want to play a jrpg you've got to pay that sony tax

Snow
August 29th, 2016, 10:16 AM
every MG or every upcoming game?

Every upcoming game.

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If you want to play a jrpg you've got to pay that sony tax

Thankfully I don't.

Skull
August 29th, 2016, 10:16 AM
Cyber Sleuth is great.

As is Next Order. Which also let's you play as a female.
http://thevitalounge.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Digimon-World-Next-Order_09-24-15_Shiki.png

2Bad
August 29th, 2016, 10:18 AM
NO is a world game isn't it? So presumably it will revert to the usual state of Digimon games being terrible.

Skull
August 29th, 2016, 10:18 AM
NO is a world game isn't it? So presumably it will revert to the usual state of Digimon games being terrible.
Yes it is in the "World" series of Digimon games.

And no, they aren't terrible. :mad:

Zurvan
August 29th, 2016, 10:19 AM
Every upcoming game.

you poor thing

Historia
August 29th, 2016, 10:20 AM
I wonder if BF1 will be good, let's hope for the best.

i'm not hoping for anything i just want to chase trains while on a horse

Snow
August 29th, 2016, 10:21 AM
you poor thing

I feel fine.

Zurvan
August 29th, 2016, 10:22 AM
Do you ever feel hyped Snow?

Marmadillo
August 29th, 2016, 10:29 AM
>feeling hype for a video game

Zurvan
August 29th, 2016, 10:30 AM
>Being empty inside

Snow
August 29th, 2016, 10:31 AM
Do you ever feel hyped Snow?

The word 'hype' represents a good part of what I see as being wrong with the stale, lazy and unimaginative borefest that is most of today's entertainment industry.

So no, I hope not.

Marmadillo
August 29th, 2016, 10:32 AM
>feeding escapism

Zurvan
August 29th, 2016, 10:33 AM
Reality is boring

Marmadillo
August 29th, 2016, 10:36 AM
That's a state of the mind not state of the reality.

AsGryffynn
August 29th, 2016, 10:43 AM
I just hate Bioware because I thought ME was going to be my favorite vidya series of all time after playing ME1 in my uncorrupted and youthful optimism.

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so basically i should probably hate EA more

good thing that i do

Hating EA today is alright. They are a trainwreck now...

But I will brutally murder anyone who criticizes the first 6 Need For Speed games...

SeiKeo
August 29th, 2016, 10:56 AM
wow there were some real fuckin opinions here

just Beamu
August 29th, 2016, 12:04 PM
If you want to play a jrpg you've got to pay that sony tax
Don't forget the 3DS one

GhostDIGIT
August 29th, 2016, 12:12 PM
Nothing like starting off the new school year with a new confusing site layout.

AsGryffynn
August 29th, 2016, 01:13 PM
If you want to play a jrpg you've got to pay that sony tax

NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!

2Bad
August 29th, 2016, 01:44 PM
Don't forget the 3DS one

Don't play portables

just Beamu
August 29th, 2016, 02:13 PM
Don't play portables
die

Zurvan
August 29th, 2016, 02:14 PM
Wow easy there tiger

Snow
August 29th, 2016, 02:15 PM
play nice

Zurvan
August 29th, 2016, 02:17 PM
die

voila
http://www.shared-all.nl/fsimages/10017890gr.gif

GhostDIGIT
August 29th, 2016, 02:18 PM
give in to your anger

SeiKeo
August 29th, 2016, 02:18 PM
I mean Nintendo games are already shitty so you get a portable console and get the same shit except well you know and ??????

Snow
August 29th, 2016, 02:18 PM
all consoles are equally shit ayyy lmao

GhostDIGIT
August 29th, 2016, 02:20 PM
the xbone, the pisspoor, the wiieww, and the PC principal

SeiKeo
August 29th, 2016, 02:21 PM
all consoles are equally shit ayyy lmao
Yeah but yeah actually