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LJ3
July 8th, 2018, 03:25 AM
You hung out with a porn star?

Mujaya
July 8th, 2018, 03:28 AM
You hung out with a porn star?
Fuck yeah I did mate
(Although I didn't actually "Hang out with her" it was just a meet and greet, and it was brief)

Arashi_Leonhart
July 8th, 2018, 03:44 AM
Kawasumi likes shaking hands and I feel like I'm in the presence of a rock star around Tsuruoka.

Dullahan
July 8th, 2018, 09:02 AM
ill-fitting, since the thread title has changed, but how about an actual random thought

the terminology of 'transformative' works [e.g. as in AO3's tagline] which is to say the conceptual dichotomy of transformative/curative fandoms [which originates from, of all places, a reddit post of several years vintage] is foundationally incoherent and should be scrapped. among other things it fails to recognise each side's containing a moment of the opposite. a straitjacket which must be done away with if fanfiction is to be something more than pornography. it won't be, of course, but at least it's clear where the exit is

Mcjon01
July 8th, 2018, 09:18 AM
Transformative fan fiction, so, like, Ditto porn? Sorry I don’t understand when you use the five dollar words, talk normal-like kudasai

SpoonyViking
July 8th, 2018, 12:55 PM
What exactly does this "transformative" tag entail?

Kotonoha
July 8th, 2018, 12:58 PM
It's a term you use when you want to not get attacked by copyright lawyers

Mattias
July 8th, 2018, 03:27 PM
It's a term you use when you want to not get attacked by copyright lawyers

Would that make Fifty Shades transformative then?

That seems like a far too important word to describe that series.

Snow
July 8th, 2018, 05:57 PM
As the majority of the moderating staff has been determined unfit for command and useless, I hereby inform the esteemed users of this online community that the roster is as of this moment replaced by the only capable and useful mod: myself.

Tobias
July 8th, 2018, 05:58 PM
You still work for me though.

Snow
July 8th, 2018, 06:03 PM
https://i.imgur.com/D93iL0T.jpg?1

Zurvan
July 8th, 2018, 08:51 PM
ic EU trip is eliminating the mods

good job EU

Arashi_Leonhart
July 8th, 2018, 09:16 PM
As the majority of the moderating staff has been determined unfit for command and useless, I hereby inform the esteemed users of this online community that the roster is as of this moment replaced by the only capable and useful mod: myself.

yes dance my puppets

Mujaya
July 8th, 2018, 09:56 PM
ill-fitting, since the thread title has changed, but how about an actual random thought

the terminology of 'transformative' works [e.g. as in AO3's tagline] which is to say the conceptual dichotomy of transformative/curative fandoms [which originates from, of all places, a reddit post of several years vintage] is foundationally incoherent and should be scrapped. among other things it fails to recognise each side's containing a moment of the opposite. a straitjacket which must be done away with if fanfiction is to be something more than pornography. it won't be, of course, but at least it's clear where the exit is
"a Reddit post of several years vintage" this is like, some Philip K Dick tier prose

Kotonoha
July 8th, 2018, 10:21 PM
it's not even really accurate because the AO3-style usage of "transformative work" as a more legally defensible-sounding synonym for "fanfic" predates that reddit post by almost a decade at least

Tobias
July 8th, 2018, 10:54 PM
it's not even really accurate because the AO3-style usage of "transformative work" as a more legally defensible-sounding synonym for "fanfic" predates that reddit post by almost a decade at least

So your saying you had already reddit before?

Historia
July 9th, 2018, 12:07 AM
i've come to the sudden realization that most all the anime i've enjoyed are nearly 10 years or older now

i need to get into new anime

like, uh,

uhhh

Mujaya
July 9th, 2018, 12:08 AM
i've come to the sudden realization that most all the anime i've enjoyed are nearly 10 years or older now

i need to get into new anime

like, uh,

uhhh
Heaven's Feel

Arashi_Leonhart
July 9th, 2018, 02:32 AM
After having some time to digest AX, I have to say, the thing I'm still pissed the most over is that someone jacked our LLENN standee.

Strife ❤️
July 9th, 2018, 04:10 AM
After having some time to digest AX, I have to say, the thing I'm still pissed the most over is that someone jacked our LLENN standee.

After having time to digest Japan Expo,

https://imgur.com/a/DpjGbTE

My feet hurt

SpoonyViking
July 9th, 2018, 08:00 AM
After having time to digest Japan Expo,

https://imgur.com/a/DpjGbTE

My feet hurt

...Those are really cute, but why would you go to a convention wearing heeled boots?

Nikiri
July 9th, 2018, 08:05 AM
Cosplay

SpoonyViking
July 9th, 2018, 10:17 AM
Oh.

Draconic
July 9th, 2018, 01:13 PM
ill-fitting, since the thread title has changed, but how about an actual random thought

the terminology of 'transformative' works [e.g. as in AO3's tagline] which is to say the conceptual dichotomy of transformative/curative fandoms [which originates from, of all places, a reddit post of several years vintage] is foundationally incoherent and should be scrapped. among other things it fails to recognise each side's containing a moment of the opposite. a straitjacket which must be done away with if fanfiction is to be something more than pornography. it won't be, of course, but at least it's clear where the exit is
So, basically, what you're really doing here is being pretentious, while passive-aggressively insulting anyone who took pride in writing decent, non-pornographic fanfiction for a reason you won't even say.

-_-#

Zurvan
July 9th, 2018, 01:28 PM
OH BOY I SURE AM ENJOYING THIS, I WONDER WHAT HAPPENS NEXT

Draconic
July 9th, 2018, 01:33 PM
Umm...

Goddammit Zurvan...???

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Or somesuch?

mAc Chaos
July 9th, 2018, 01:38 PM
i write gud with my brans

Zurvan
July 9th, 2018, 01:41 PM
Ai 2 em vherry smurt

Draconic
July 9th, 2018, 01:52 PM
i write gud with my brans
With the power of their MINDS?!

Or wait, do you refer to breakfast cereals?

Arashi_Leonhart
July 9th, 2018, 09:24 PM
Amaki Sally cusses and the crowd goes wild this time with video (https://youtu.be/oRhFeK5NG0w?t=5m14s)

Historia
July 9th, 2018, 10:08 PM
oh, shit

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wait, arashi, which idol are you

Prix with a Silent X
July 10th, 2018, 12:30 AM
So, basically, what you're really doing here is being pretentious, while passive-aggressively insulting anyone who took pride in writing decent, non-pornographic fanfiction for a reason you won't even say.

-_-#

That isn't what he said at all. Let us break this down: Dullahan is referring to the fact that fanfiction and similar creative endeavors that utilize an official canon work as a base are referred to as "transformative works" in more technical contexts when they're being discussed for their legal defense and so on. AO3 is run by the OTW, or the Organization for Transformative Works, which is a non-profit which involves some lawyers and stuff who try to keep fanfiction and the like from becoming illegal to produce, curate, distribute, etc. I don't know if it's true that the difference between "transformative" fandom and "curative" fandom originates on reddit (given the existence of the OTW), but he probably did more research than I did. I do know the post he's referring to, though.

Transformative fandom as a concept: Takes a base canon work and "transforms" it into something else. That is, you take clips from the original show and set them to music in a different order in order to point out an interpretation of the medium or whatever in a fanvid. You write a story that uses the same characters and concepts but in a different genre. You write a canon divergent AU. You write these characters but IN SPACE. You draw them engaging in sexual acts canon would never dream of addressing... And so on.

Curative fandom as a concept: Attempts to collect and adequately display and "curate" every element of a canon. The knee-jerk response in the Questions thread where people don't address newbies' questions sometimes because they want them to read the OP or Seika's doc before formulating a question is because people who've been in TM fandom on BL for a while are comfortable that the answers to certain questions have already been curated adequately if someone just puts in the time to read rather than ask. It's like telling someone to look it up in the dictionary. The concept of curative fandom is the idea of understanding every detail of the Official Stance on something -- power levels, blood types, measurements, every word of canon, every word of canon's bearing on every other word. It does not look to interpretive thought as meaningful unless it takes into account the full scope of all of canon as it has been understood and curated by said curative fandom. Obsessive wiki compilers who don't just headcanon in the gaps like the TM wiki would be another good example of so-called curative fans.

The idea proposed back when was that Transformative Fandom is heavily female in its demographic and lives in places like tumblr and AO3. Curative Fandom is heavily male in its demographic and lives on wikis and reddit and forums. The idea is that the two don't tend to like each other, because Transformative fans would tend to think that Curative fans refuse to be critical and, in fact, have any fun in the thing they're obsessing over. Like, what is the point if you're not using your imagination and attaching emotional significance to the thing you're obsessing over. Curative fans would tend to think that all Transformative fans are completely ignoring canon in favor of porn, shipping, coffee shop aus, and cute, meaningless fanart that has absolutely nothing to do with the hard work that the source material probably has put into a foundation and groundwork with which to enjoy the canon material.

However, Dullahan was saying that he thinks that there is a "moment of the opposite" in each "side" of the argument. I am not entirely sure what he meant, but he is almost certainly saying said dichotomy doesn't exist in as pure a form as some would like to think. If I were to try to imagine: I guess curative fans are being transformative when they participate in fact-based, power-level-wank 'who would win' games. I guess transformative fans are being curative when they are meticulously transferring the spirit of the canon 'powers' a person has into a new, alternative setting or whatever. These might not be perfect examples or interpretations, but I tried.

The "straightjacket" is the idea that one has to choose because otherwise you are left with only being able to write porn on either side because some of y'all are like "KnK is so perfect there's no room for fanfiction ever because it's a closed loop and there's no point," and the solution is porn alone and some of y'all are like "I don't care about power levels, I care about Shirou cooking for an entire series, and..." oh wait. Dullahan was suggesting that complex fanfiction is possible but that this dichotomy prohibits people who prefer Canon is Sacred or Canon is Suggestion sides of things from moving as freely as they might otherwise.

I think. Dullahan can correct me if he wants.

SeiKeo
July 10th, 2018, 12:42 AM
Straitjackets, now,

Gl❀w
July 10th, 2018, 12:45 AM
straitjackets? in my fanfiction? it's more likely than you think!

Prix with a Silent X
July 10th, 2018, 12:57 AM
Straightjackets seem inconvenient for porn. Never did understand vacuum beds...

Gl❀w
July 10th, 2018, 01:04 AM
no KiNK-shaming

Prix with a Silent X
July 10th, 2018, 01:07 AM
Well Shiki was put into a straightjacket when SHIKI was killed which some find tragic.

Zurvan
July 10th, 2018, 01:13 AM
And here I thought you couldn't make porn boring

Gl❀w
July 10th, 2018, 01:16 AM
so you didnt read fsn, then

Zurvan
July 10th, 2018, 01:34 AM
If you're reading fsn for the porn, you're doing something very wrong

happy (future?) birthday btw

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I recommend skipping through

Gl❀w
July 10th, 2018, 01:40 AM
thanks its the one day i can shamelessly exploit the social contract

Mujaya
July 10th, 2018, 01:41 AM
I don't get the fascination with Sally Amaki beyond her origins.

Raylen Cypher
July 10th, 2018, 01:49 AM
Idolism at its fullest effect.

Zurvan
July 10th, 2018, 01:58 AM
I never got idolism

Arashi_Leonhart
July 10th, 2018, 02:02 AM
It's actually a fascination with everything-but-idolism since when she's speaking English she behaves directly opposite of how idols are trained and carefully micromanaged to

Sunara
July 10th, 2018, 02:29 AM
People annoy me...
Almost told someone what she could do with her soap.....
I need a break from this.

Dullahan
July 10th, 2018, 02:31 AM
passive-aggressively insulting anyone who took pride in writing decent, non-pornographic fanfiction

If it makes you feel better, I certainly wasn't insulting you.


many words

More or less. Beyond each containing a moment of the other - which i admit i should have clarified some more - there's also the problem of the historical epoch. New modes of consumption have developed [mobage are a prime example] within which the curative/transformative dichotomy no longer makes sense. The dialectic has moved on.

Mujaya
July 10th, 2018, 04:00 AM
It's actually a fascination with everything-but-idolism since when she's speaking English she behaves directly opposite of how idols are trained and carefully micromanaged to
I endear the notion of the "anti-" archetype but only to the degree that it bears substance. There's a sort of inauthenticity in many of the things that I've seen that drives me away from a simple appreciation. It seems to me to be the "anti"-idol in the form of a "shitposting" valley girl and I find typical examples, however mediocre, as being more charming than that of an inauthentic "authentic". My initial exposure to her was on Tumblr where I was introduced to her schtick by way of "uwu, she's not like the other idols, she's a shitposting bisexual queen". I found slight interest in the notion of an idol from the states gaining popularity, but the fact that the "americanness" invades her public persona is kind of a bore. That is not to say that one should mindlessly adhere to the ideal, but rather that the manner in which she executes it, at least from my perspective, is a mediocre way of going about it.

I'm not interested in the v-tuber thing of hers, and I found the "menbure" joke in that video of hers as being less of a joke and more of an awkward cry for help, but if she has any talents besides pure "personality" I'll possibly endeavor to appreciate her creative side in the future. It seems like it could be promising.

Arashi_Leonhart
July 10th, 2018, 04:16 AM
Jesus fuck she's just like that in real life get over it with the overanalyzing.

Mujaya
July 10th, 2018, 04:18 AM
Yeah, that's called a persona. I used to act like her and I was retarded

Mcjon01
July 10th, 2018, 04:22 AM
I don't get the fascination with Sally Amaki beyond her origins.
Neither do I but if they allow photos at those handshake events you know that shits goin on my gram

Her twitter’s p funny tho, I’d follow that

Mujaya
July 10th, 2018, 04:24 AM
Damn y'all, shit is lit! ������������
hashtag blessed hashtag ebonics hashtag shitposting

Mcjon01
July 10th, 2018, 04:25 AM
Yea that’s my feed???

Dullahan
July 10th, 2018, 04:25 AM

Mcjon01
July 10th, 2018, 04:44 AM
http://i.imgur.com/9B1Ekle.jpg

Canon
July 10th, 2018, 05:58 AM
1016484941196976128

Snow
July 10th, 2018, 06:36 AM
People like cute things my dude.

Historia
July 10th, 2018, 08:12 AM
Who's the cutest of them all.

Zurvan
July 10th, 2018, 08:13 AM
K****

Nikiri
July 10th, 2018, 08:32 AM
my brain automatically reads that as "kurwa"

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is that what you wanted to say, Zurvie

Zurvan
July 10th, 2018, 08:35 AM
Perhaps
perhaps not

SpoonyViking
July 10th, 2018, 08:45 AM
The idea proposed back when was that Transformative Fandom is heavily female in its demographic and lives in places like tumblr and AO3. Curative Fandom is heavily male in its demographic and lives on wikis and reddit and forums.

Going on a tangent, I've seen Act (from Dragon Quill) propose that fanfiction writers tend to skew female because the original works tend to not appeal specifically to them - i.e., no non-heteronormative sex or heteronormative sex where female sexuality is taken into consideration, no female characters in a position of prominence, etc.* -, thus encouraging them to play much looser with canon, whereas those works tend to cater specifically to the heretosexual male crowd, which in turn tends to be much more restrictive with canon.

* ETA: For clarity's sake, the explanation is mine, not hers.

Sorry for going on a tangent, but I was reminded of that by what you just said, and I think it makes a lot of sense - particularly in, say, the recent behaviours of the Ghostbusters and Star Wars fandoms.


If it makes you feel better, I certainly wasn't insulting you.

Cripes, Dullahan, you could pull your punches some!

Mcjon01
July 10th, 2018, 08:51 AM
Girls only like gay sex?

SpoonyViking
July 10th, 2018, 08:53 AM
...Argh, I mixed things up! Sorry. I meant to say "non-heteronormative sex or heteronormative sex where female sexuality is taken into consideration". I'll edit the original post.

Zurvan
July 10th, 2018, 08:56 AM
ew girls, thats gae xDDDD

Dullahan
July 10th, 2018, 09:01 AM
i think you meant 'skew', not 'eschew'.

Tobias
July 10th, 2018, 09:28 AM
i think you meant 'skew', not 'eschew'.


Are you sure? Maybe you should give it some more thought, you know, chew it over.

at least think about it for a few

SpoonyViking
July 10th, 2018, 09:28 AM
...Frakk me, I did. Thanks!

At least I got a quality Tobias pun to console me.

SeiKeo
July 10th, 2018, 09:52 AM
Straightjackets seem inconvenient for porn. Never did understand vacuum beds...
Well, they’re supposed to be inconvenient.

Snow
July 10th, 2018, 10:49 AM
my brain automatically reads that as "kurwa"

You're cool Nikiri I like you

Nikiri
July 10th, 2018, 10:50 AM
that's sarcasm, isn't it

Tobias
July 10th, 2018, 11:57 AM
Random joke that just popped into my head and I will be torturing my coworkers and possibly patients with tomorrow.

whats a word to describe a cow that isn’t brave?

cow-ord!

Mujaya
July 10th, 2018, 12:03 PM
People like cute things my dude.
I like cute things too. Talking like a 12 year old hip hop fan ain't cute.

Gl❀w
July 10th, 2018, 12:05 PM
Random joke that just popped into my head and I will be torturing my coworkers and possibly patients with tomorrow.

whats a word to describe a cow that isn’t brave?

cow-ord!
you don’t wanna start that kind of beef

Tobias
July 10th, 2018, 12:06 PM
Puns are a great way to meat new people

Gl❀w
July 10th, 2018, 12:09 PM
doesn't mean it's not a misteak

RoydGolden
July 10th, 2018, 12:10 PM
We're doing bad puns now? In that case here's one I came up with a while ago.

What do you call a gnome linguistics professor?

Gnome Chomsky!

Gl❀w
July 10th, 2018, 12:12 PM
that is not how one steers a conversation

RoydGolden
July 10th, 2018, 12:16 PM
that is not how one steers a conversation

Random thoughts, bro (even if it's not called that anymore). There's no such thing as off-topic here.

Zurvan
July 10th, 2018, 12:17 PM
And yet

here we are

Gl❀w
July 10th, 2018, 12:18 PM
if you're gonna do puns you have to milk the current one for its full worth

Zurvan
July 10th, 2018, 12:21 PM
otherwise you're just ruining the moo~d

RoydGolden
July 10th, 2018, 12:23 PM
if you're gonna do puns you have to milk the current one for its full worth

Fair enough. It seems I forgot the rules of pun etiquette.

Nice stealth pun there, by the way.

Gl❀w
July 10th, 2018, 12:26 PM
it may take some prodding but i knew you had the drive

Snow
July 10th, 2018, 12:46 PM
I like cute things too. Talking like a 12 year old hip hop fan ain't cute.

Thinking idol personas are 100% natural and don't have fanservice in mind: naive

Thinking idol personas are 100% fake and bottom to top manufactured: naive

Mujaya
July 10th, 2018, 12:53 PM
Thinking idol personas are 100% natural and don't have fanservice in mind: naive

Thinking idol personas are 100% fake and bottom to top manufactured: naive
Thinking that I think that there can be anything which is an absolute besides the fact that the only absolute is that there are no absolutes: naive

Zurvan
July 10th, 2018, 01:02 PM
https://img00.deviantart.net/fcbe/i/2014/214/8/7/jedi_scum_by_generalgrievous423-d7tf1jq.jpg

mAc Chaos
July 10th, 2018, 01:06 PM
what an udder disaster

Snow
July 10th, 2018, 01:07 PM
whatever you say mister doctor professor man

Tobias
July 10th, 2018, 01:08 PM
Y’all are lucky I don’t get mad when other people horn in on my jokes

Gl❀w
July 10th, 2018, 01:10 PM
its honestly surprising you arent more protective of your brand

Snow
July 10th, 2018, 01:20 PM
Do you think this avatar fits me better I think it does

mAc Chaos
July 10th, 2018, 01:25 PM
its good

Mujaya
July 10th, 2018, 01:28 PM
whatever you say mister doctor professor man
Ecce Homo (behold the gay [scientist])

Tobias
July 10th, 2018, 01:31 PM
its honestly surprising you arent more protective of your brand


Hah! That was a good one!

LJ3
July 10th, 2018, 01:40 PM
... because branding livestock??

You
July 10th, 2018, 01:42 PM
So turns out Meteo is at AX

LJ3
July 10th, 2018, 01:47 PM
Beyond type moon what has he done

was it Fire Girl?

Nikiri
July 10th, 2018, 01:51 PM
where is my girls work reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Five_X
July 10th, 2018, 01:55 PM
Your girls are on holiday they won't work I'm sorry.

Mujaya
July 10th, 2018, 01:58 PM
Nobody is at ax

SpoonyViking
July 10th, 2018, 02:01 PM
... because branding livestock??

Ah, you killed the joke by explaining it.
It's ok, though. I'm sure it can still recowver.

Tobias
July 10th, 2018, 02:08 PM
I think lj was trying to make a joke, he just didnt put a lot of effort into it.

so his joke was a little “calf-hearted”

LJ3
July 10th, 2018, 02:12 PM
Jesus christ

i was actually legit wondering why branded was a good bun

you sick sick bastard, making light of animal cruelty

:p

Gl❀w
July 10th, 2018, 02:16 PM
it was a pun that needed to be herd

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so his joke was a little “calf-hearted”

how do you avoid being roasted

You
July 10th, 2018, 02:19 PM
Beyond type moon what has he done

was it Fire Girl?
Fire Girl was for TM so was Zvedea
He was a writer for Liar Soft and wrote Forest

1015688645116813312

Tobias
July 10th, 2018, 02:20 PM
how do you avoid being roasted

i don’t mind getting roasted, what’s not fun is when you tell a really bad pun and get knee’d in the balls.

this results in some very tender-loins

Gl❀w
July 10th, 2018, 02:23 PM
that kind of information is a bit too re-veal-ing

Nikiri
July 10th, 2018, 02:29 PM
tweet

even has girls work as the avatar

i cannot

Tobias
July 10th, 2018, 02:30 PM
that kind of information is a bit too re-veal-ing


Moo love it.

Gl❀w
July 10th, 2018, 02:35 PM
no, i'm trying to hold you acowntable

SeiKeo
July 10th, 2018, 02:39 PM
Stoppu pruisu

Gl❀w
July 10th, 2018, 02:41 PM
you're right, it's only going to get more terribull

Snow
July 10th, 2018, 03:02 PM
Tomorrow is Cruel Angel Day friends, lend me your strength.

Nikiri
July 10th, 2018, 03:07 PM
༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ take my energy

Snow
July 10th, 2018, 03:13 PM
Thank you brother

SpoonyViking
July 10th, 2018, 03:19 PM
you're right, it's only going to get more terribull

Ah, well, if it had to end, it's good it ended on such an oxcellent pun!

Snow
July 10th, 2018, 03:27 PM
Wow rude

LJ3
July 10th, 2018, 03:58 PM
Fire Girl was for TM so was Zvedea
He was a writer for Liar Soft and wrote Forest

1015688645116813312

amazing

i likes Zvezda and I need to check out Forest


even has girls work as the avatar

i cannot

Lol the ever distant utopia

SpoonyViking
July 10th, 2018, 04:35 PM
Has anyone here used the book "Reading Greek"? I've tried asking Seika, but it seems she hasn't been active lately (and coupled with what she said about her work situation, I'm a bit worried about her, too).

Rafflesiac
July 10th, 2018, 04:49 PM
Fire Girl was for TM so was Zvedea
He was a writer for Liar Soft and wrote Forest

1015688645116813312
Of all of the stars to pick...

SpoonyViking
July 10th, 2018, 06:46 PM
Let me change tacks: anyone here knows Greek?

Nikiri
July 10th, 2018, 06:56 PM
Deathhappens, but he is native iirc

Zurvan
July 10th, 2018, 07:11 PM
I imagine Leftovers?

Prix with a Silent X
July 10th, 2018, 07:11 PM
Going on a tangent, I've seen Act (from Dragon Quill) propose that fanfiction writers tend to skew female because the original works tend to not appeal specifically to them - i.e., no non-heteronormative sex or heteronormative sex where female sexuality is taken into consideration, no female characters in a position of prominence, etc.* -, thus encouraging them to play much looser with canon, whereas those works tend to cater specifically to the heretosexual male crowd, which in turn tends to be much more restrictive with canon.

* ETA: For clarity's sake, the explanation is mine, not hers.

Sorry for going on a tangent, but I was reminded of that by what you just said, and I think it makes a lot of sense - particularly in, say, the recent behaviours of the Ghostbusters and Star Wars fandoms.

That actually is an interesting viewpoint on why there is a gender divide. I always thought it was strange that there was a noticeable one and wondered if it was memetic. There are a number of male persons who come to this forum who have a vested interest in producing and/or reading literature, but in other places I've been on the internet that is viewed as a fairly feminine pursuit at this point. I have even had conversations with students, peers, and even my father about the idea that the Arts are somehow feminine. That too is strange given that the Arts used to be a privileged, masculine thing because men were the only ones for whom education and extensive literacy was often provided. I've read some feminist thinkpieces that have suggested that as Western society in particular shifts toward a profession, discipline, or art being more predominantly female that the society and system itself devalues it. Examples I can think of are the arts, crafts, and primary and secondary education (while higher ed is still quite male-dominated). Similar things are happening in the practice of law right now; more women graduate law school now, and the job market for them is being devalued and becoming more difficult to get into, etc.


Well, they’re supposed to be inconvenient.

Hmmm.... Sexy.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/Vacuum_bed_17.jpg/1280px-Vacuum_bed_17.jpg

Actually this is the least sexy sex toy I can imagine.

Zurvan
July 10th, 2018, 07:12 PM
Have you tried to contact Seika through twitter?

SeiKeo
July 10th, 2018, 07:20 PM
Law is such an odd example for that: if anything you should use medicine, which is already majority female in school, and that sure doesn’t seem devalued. Law is awful because your entire career is tracked off your school.

Prix with a Silent X
July 10th, 2018, 07:22 PM
Law is such an odd example for that: if anything you should use medicine, which is already majority female in school, and that sure doesn’t seem devalued. Law is awful because your entire career is tracked off your school.

Medicine at least in America is a whole other can of worms about what exactly is being valued. And I don't happen to know any doctors while I know a lawyer, so it was just what came to mind.

Snow
July 10th, 2018, 07:36 PM
It's happening right now in my profession in my country. Everybody is confused that architects elsewhere are so much more respected too.

Prix with a Silent X
July 10th, 2018, 07:42 PM
It's happening right now in my profession in my country. Everybody is confused that architects elsewhere are so much more respected too.

Yeah, like, every time someone goes 'I want to be an architect!' in primary school I feel like they're almost inevitably shot down with the idea that it is super difficult and requirs both math and art skills that are kind of viewed as mutually exclusive or something in a way that other intensive training professions aren't immediately shot down for little ones.

You
July 10th, 2018, 07:46 PM
I now live in a house full of architects and they're all p bro-y
and smoke a lot of weed

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And there's a 3D printer in the backyard inside a Vitamin Water fridge someone probably stole from someplace

Snow
July 10th, 2018, 07:48 PM
My country is kinda endemic in a sense that architecture students here have become predominantly female unlike the rest of the world afaik so yeah you can kinda feel that it's seen as a 'girly' profession that deals with trivialities. Civil engineers in particular love going on about how architects are frivolous, unrealistic and technically inept compared to them.

Rafflesiac
July 10th, 2018, 07:51 PM
I hear Archies are literally incapable of sleep.

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Wasn't Ratman an architect? Or a student along those lines? I remember him ranting about an incredibly expensive and hideous modern art sculpture in his city or something, along the lines of Dublin's Spire.

Snow
July 10th, 2018, 07:52 PM
He was in sculpture iirc. That's more hard art than architecture.

SpoonyViking
July 10th, 2018, 08:30 PM
Have you tried to contact Seika through twitter?

I don't have Twitter. [crying emoji]

Zurvan
July 10th, 2018, 08:54 PM
Make one?

LJ3
July 10th, 2018, 10:15 PM
I miss Ratman

i don’t think he liked GO

SpoonyViking
July 10th, 2018, 10:24 PM
Make one?

Fine, fine! I surrender to the Dark Side.
...Er, what's Seika's twitter, though?

Zurvan
July 10th, 2018, 10:28 PM
I mean, you don't have to?
Seika is probably swamped with work these days anyway

SpoonyViking
July 10th, 2018, 10:30 PM
I imagine she is, but I could really use some help, so I'm going to give it a try.

Dullahan
July 11th, 2018, 01:01 AM
what do you need to read

Mujaya
July 11th, 2018, 01:44 AM
The arts have never been masculine, nor have artists ever been masculine, nor have I as an artist from a family of artists ever been obsessed with masculinity. Femininity is the creating will that resides within artists. What art in the postmodern age lacks is quality, a consequence of the devaluation of artistic talent. Architects are great at what they do because they have to be smart enough to erect buildings.

As Goethe said: "Architecture is frozen music". The rest of the arts fall victim to subjectivity, lack of artistic discipline and the notions of validation and "artistic" expression. If you ever go into an art museum, like MOCA here in LA, you'll understand what I mean. There are some fine examples of modern artists such as James Turrell but art as a whole is lacking, not entirely because artistic endeavors can be obscene or unfruitful, but rather because art has been abandoned by the dexterous and embraced by clods. I appreciate a multitude of the artists that have come forward since the impressionists such as Basquiat and maybe even Warhol, but I think that if you intend to make people respect the arts, you should make the arts respectable. Music and Architecture are about the only things that aren't mediocre nowadays.

Literature hasn't improved since the science fiction writers, and books were pretty much replaced by movies, sculpting has become the art of turds, urinals and used car parts and painting has become the practice of literally tossing oneself across a canvas and calling it art. It's just a get-rich-quick scheme for people who know how to manipulate people's interpretations of talent. Not to mention the degradation of several centuries of Opera tradition into shitty musicals for people who love plagiarizing Pink Floyd songs (phantom of the opera; it can be said perhaps ironically that the art of the musical is literally the "phantom of the opera").

Its clear to me that art serves more of a purpose than empirical observation suggests, something any skeptic or "objectivist" who meanders towards the sciences isn't willing to admit; as Dostoyevsky said "The world will be saved by beauty" and as Nietzsche said "Art is the supreme task and the truly metaphysical activity". If anything is to blame for the devaluation of art, it is not the inattentiveness of non-artists towards art, but our inattentiveness towards art as artists.

Prix with a Silent X
July 11th, 2018, 02:06 AM
Mujaya, please go outside and have a conversation with an in-the-flesh person.

Mujaya
July 11th, 2018, 02:18 AM
I talk to people all of the time and none of them ever have anything interesting to say.

Five_X
July 11th, 2018, 02:21 AM
Tomorrow is Cruel Angel Day friends, lend me your strength.

zankoku na tenshi no you ni
shoujo, yo shinwa ni nare !

Sunara
July 11th, 2018, 03:26 AM
I talk to people all of the time and none of them ever have anything interesting to say.
Maybe bring up the topics u find interesting? Social situations are weird & sometimes people don't think or are afraid to brouch certain topics.

Mujaya
July 11th, 2018, 03:58 AM
Maybe bring up the topics u find interesting? Social situations are weird & sometimes people don't think or are afraid to brouch certain topics.
Well, most people don't care to discuss politics or are afraid to do so for fear of persecution. Everyday people don't know anything (or at the least, very much) about art or science or literature. Most people I come across just like to attend social gatherings, get drunk and talk about mundane bullshit. There's nothing remotely interesting about that. I like attending museums, listening to a variety of music, collecting things, reading philosophy, debating people and going for walks in the city. I hate nightclubs, parties and theme parks. Not very many people share my sentiments about life, and as you can tell, my "hot takes" are almost always controversial and garner disapproval and ad hominems, but it's the price I pay for attempting to convey what I believe may be true.

Five_X
July 11th, 2018, 04:26 AM
Well, most people don't care to discuss politics or are afraid to do so for fear of persecution. Everyday people don't know anything (or at the least, very much) about art or science or literature. Most people I come across just like to attend social gatherings, get drunk and talk about mundane bullshit. There's nothing remotely interesting about that. I like attending museums, listening to a variety of music, collecting things, reading philosophy, debating people and going for walks in the city. I hate nightclubs, parties and theme parks. Not very many people share my sentiments about life, and as you can tell, my "hot takes" are almost always controversial and garner disapproval and ad hominems, but it's the price I pay for attempting to convey what I believe may be true.

No lie I'm pretty sure I wrote this as a Facebook post when I was in high school.

Strife ❤️
July 11th, 2018, 04:29 AM
Small brain: I like philosophy art walks and hate nightclubs and parties

Strife brain: I like philosophy art walks and getting fucked up at insane parties before going to the nightclub

Mujaya
July 11th, 2018, 04:44 AM
Well, extraversion is certainly a trait, however it proves to be a waste of living.

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And don't mistake my position for "I'm not like the normies, I'm eloquent". I understand your attempt at criticism, and you're well in your right to criticize me, even if you do it poorly.

Snow
July 11th, 2018, 04:46 AM
Thank god we're all introverts here then, especially mAc

Mcjon01
July 11th, 2018, 05:02 AM
Well, extraversion is certainly a trait, however it proves to be a waste of living.

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And don't mistake my position for "I'm not like the normies, I'm eloquent". I understand your attempt at criticism, and you're well in your right to criticize me, even if you do it poorly.
Okay but you do seem like you’re trying suspiciously hard NOT to use the word normie is all I’m saying

SpoonyViking
July 11th, 2018, 05:21 AM
what do you need to read

I need to translate two passages.

Mujaya
July 11th, 2018, 05:22 AM
Okay but you do seem like you’re trying suspiciously hard NOT to use the word normie is all I’m saying
I've been wearing a mask for most of my life in my attempts to relate to people, and i've only recently decided discard that persona for the sake of my enjoyment of life, as well as to partake in the process of individuation, but besides the intellectual gymnastics, I accept that I'm seen as being disagreeable and cynical, but I wouldn't emphasize that to the degree that I employ "me vs them" mentality in any sense besides ironically.

I explained my position on art since that was part of the discussion, I was asked "Why I don't go outside and talk to somebody", I explained that I have a difficult time socializing because I don't care very much for excursions and small talk (and I spend a majority of my time thinking incessantly about things such as this), I was spurned for taking a typical introverted position, and here we are. I do not detest the notion that there are honest, average people, I just think those things are a waste of time. They're not for me. It's as simple as that.

Snow
July 11th, 2018, 05:33 AM
https://i.imgur.com/V9p0i6U.jpg

Huitante
July 11th, 2018, 05:36 AM
Well, extraversion is certainly a trait, however it proves to be a waste of living.

Extraversion is so much more efficient than introversion. Wish I had it T_T

Mujaya
July 11th, 2018, 05:47 AM
There are benefits to extraversion as there are to anything else, but the extraverts are the doers, not the thinkers. Kant was INTP, Einstein was INTP, Jung was INTP, and so am I. Efficiency is an illusion. You don't wanna be the extroverted publisher marketing some morons books, you wanna be that moron who does nothing but write nonstop at 3 in the morning about the pictures that fly through his head and make bank off of people who wear purple wigs for fun.

Dullahan
July 11th, 2018, 06:09 AM
I need to translate two passages.

have you tried perseus to check if there isn't already a translation

Saiga
July 11th, 2018, 06:20 AM
No lie I'm pretty sure I wrote this as a Facebook post when I was in high school.

I can't picture you ever being like that Five

But my attempts to do so are pretty amusing

Snow
July 11th, 2018, 06:28 AM
sorry immanuel but I just kant

Mcjon01
July 11th, 2018, 06:44 AM
There are benefits to extraversion as there are to anything else, but the extraverts are the doers, not the thinkers. Kant was INTP, Einstein was INTP, Jung was INTP, and so am I. Efficiency is an illusion. You don't wanna be the extroverted publisher marketing some morons books, you wanna be that moron who does nothing but write nonstop at 3 in the morning about the pictures that fly through his head and make bank off of people who wear purple wigs for fun.
As a stupid introvert I’m offended by this post

SpoonyViking
July 11th, 2018, 06:45 AM
have you tried perseus to check if there isn't already a translation

Dullahan, I could kiss you!

Gl❀w
July 11th, 2018, 07:10 AM
You do know Myers-Briggs is not actually a scientific gold standard, right

it’s like thinking you get a real, credible “score” from a free online IQ test

Snow
July 11th, 2018, 07:23 AM
How can IQs be real if our Is aren't real???

Gl❀w
July 11th, 2018, 07:27 AM
Drugs don’t create hallucinations, they merely disrupt the hallucination we call “reality”

Saiga
July 11th, 2018, 07:28 AM
Meyers Briggs said I'm a caring person, those things are full of crap

SeiKeo
July 11th, 2018, 07:30 AM
I talk to people all of the time and none of them ever have anything interesting to say.
neither do you, sike

Zurvan
July 11th, 2018, 07:35 AM
We have fun

Canon
July 11th, 2018, 07:39 AM
When will you have fun with me tho

Zurvan
July 11th, 2018, 07:42 AM
Also if you think every person out there is a normie xD, or even that normies are incapable of talking about DEM SMURT STUFFS you need to expand your circles

Talking politics while drunk is a true experience

alternatively get a gf

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Canon???

Mcjon01
July 11th, 2018, 07:43 AM
alternatively get a gf
Y-You too

Zurvan
July 11th, 2018, 07:45 AM
How do I put this gently

Canon
July 11th, 2018, 07:46 AM
He meant get *gf as in install and play popular english mobile game Girls Frontline

Nikiri
July 11th, 2018, 07:49 AM
one mobage is more than enough for me

just Beamu
July 11th, 2018, 07:50 AM
I talk to people all of the time and none of them ever have anything interesting to say.
This sounds like the ramblings of an edgy 15 year old and is itself an uninteresting outlook to have

Dantalion
July 11th, 2018, 08:02 AM
This sounds like the ramblings of an edgy 15 year old and is itself an uninteresting outlook to have
It's true though, I sometimes meet intelligent people IRL and none of what they say is interesting to me

hyuuuu

the problem is probably not the people im speaking with

:gun:

mAc Chaos
July 11th, 2018, 09:00 AM
Thank god we're all introverts here then, especially mAc
thank god

Dullahan
July 11th, 2018, 09:32 AM
Today's creative(?) waste of time: translating Pendulum lyrics into tanka

また自由
火先で我ら
必ずや
最後に一人
我と貴方よ

I sell propane and propane nightmares.

In-N-Out Double-Double & Animal Fries
July 11th, 2018, 12:09 PM
1017067354520338432

Historia
July 11th, 2018, 12:13 PM
https://i.imgur.com/fnOpSol.png https://i.imgur.com/hDOsaB9.png https://i.imgur.com/x8pjBBl.png

decisions, decisions

Zurvan
July 11th, 2018, 12:27 PM
middle imo

Mujaya
July 11th, 2018, 12:38 PM
You do know Myers-Briggs is not actually a scientific gold standard, right

it’s like thinking you get a real, credible “score” from a free online IQ test
i know it's not a gold standard,it's a very basic test, and as almost any that you have to take from the internet, you have to rely on your own interpretation of your personality which is unreliable. I've taken the big five test before as well, which is the modern standard for personality measurement. Very high in openness, high in conscientiousness, low in agreeableness, low in extraversion and mixed results on neuroticism. (But it doesn't have those fancy letters)

Gl❀w
July 11th, 2018, 12:43 PM
k

Mujaya
July 11th, 2018, 01:01 PM
This sounds like the ramblings of an edgy 15 year old and is itself an uninteresting outlook to have
If you lived in blue collar town full of methheads and alcoholics you wouldn't find a valuable conversation.

Gl❀w
July 11th, 2018, 01:04 PM
that you think there is no insight to be gained from those struggling with addiction says more about you than it does about them

Tobias
July 11th, 2018, 01:11 PM
Half my patients are meth heads. They are the most interesting folks in the world

Mujaya
July 11th, 2018, 01:29 PM
But would you hang out with them? I have an extremely intelligent friend who struggles with drug addiction, and he's one of the few people I find eloquent, creative and passionate, but my boss doesn't like it when I hang out with him (because everyone knows he's an addict), and customers from my store tell him whenever I do. I understand his concern, but you would come to find a low opinion of people who hold dispositions like these.

mAc Chaos
July 11th, 2018, 01:33 PM
Are you hanging out with him... at work?

Mujaya
July 11th, 2018, 01:48 PM
Are you hanging out with him... at work?
He comes in and I like to have brief chats with him about books that I read or art or I show him some of my writing poetry or music, but it rarely happens and when it does it's usually around the end of the day when there aren't any customers. My boss doesn't complain about that. I am responsible at my job. What I'm talking about is after work. I went on night strolls with him a couple times after work and my boss wasn't very happy with that. We had customers calling him up about it (which is ironic because it's like, what the hell are you doing out at 1AM buddy?)

Snow
July 11th, 2018, 01:51 PM
I have gradumacated the buildingstuff erections

Zurvan
July 11th, 2018, 01:53 PM
Congramatulationations

Nikiri
July 11th, 2018, 01:54 PM
if i was a bit smarter 5 years ago i would also graduate during this summer

congrats Snowie

Five_X
July 11th, 2018, 02:07 PM
Congrats on getting your shiny paper Snow!

mAc Chaos
July 11th, 2018, 02:29 PM
Congrats snow!


He comes in and I like to have brief chats with him about books that I read or art or I show him some of my writing poetry or music, but it rarely happens and when it does it's usually around the end of the day when there aren't any customers. My boss doesn't complain about that. I am responsible at my job. What I'm talking about is after work. I went on night strolls with him a couple times after work and my boss wasn't very happy with that. We had customers calling him up about it (which is ironic because it's like, what the hell are you doing out at 1AM buddy?)
I am kind of confused why your boss is keeping tabs on you at all times or how all these people are following you around so intently in the first place. What kind of job is it?

Mujaya
July 11th, 2018, 02:33 PM
Congrats snow!


I am kind of confused why your boss is keeping tabs on you at all times or how all these people are following you around so intently in the first place. What kind of job is it?
i work at a liquor store in a small town and a lot of the customers are very familiar with and fond of me. Word gets around the neighborhood. As I said, it's a strange town.

just Beamu
July 11th, 2018, 03:37 PM
If you lived in blue collar town full of methheads and alcoholics you wouldn't find a valuable conversation.

I do live in one of those lol

Mujaya
July 11th, 2018, 04:04 PM
I do live in one of those lol
well, then I'm sure you're familiar with the risks of associating oneself with dangerous people

just Beamu
July 11th, 2018, 04:11 PM
It's really not that hard to talk with dangerous people. And it isnt as if all addicts are inherently dangerous to begin with

Mujaya
July 11th, 2018, 04:16 PM
It's really not that hard to talk with dangerous people. And it isnt as if all addicts are inherently dangerous to begin with
It is if they're trying to get you to do drugs. That's what addicts tend to do. How do you think it spreads?

just Beamu
July 11th, 2018, 04:23 PM
Telling them to go awa tends to do the trick well enough unless you're either very bad at saying no or have unusually insistent people

Mujaya
July 11th, 2018, 04:27 PM
Telling them to go awa tends to do the trick well enough unless you're either very bad at saying no or have unusually insistent people
People are always asking me why I don't smoke pot or drink and I just tell them to fuck off.

Cruor
July 11th, 2018, 04:34 PM
I have gradumacated the buildingstuff erections

Congrats snow~!

Have fun with the job searching >:)

just Beamu
July 11th, 2018, 04:39 PM
People are always asking me why I don't smoke pot or drink and I just tell them to fuck off.
Your strange focus on this being a complete roadblock to conversation is the weirder thing

Mujaya
July 11th, 2018, 04:49 PM
Your strange focus on this being a complete roadblock to conversation is the weirder thing
Those are just my reasons against attending social gatherings. I don't like hedonism. As for conversation, there are just very few people that I can hold a genuine conversation with. There's a Stanford professor emeritus I enjoy talking to about prog rock, my drug addict friend, and a guy that went to MIT who I find really funny. Most other people try to talk to me about sports or other menial things that I just don't understand. Maybe I'm autistic or something, I don't know.

just Beamu
July 11th, 2018, 07:31 PM
I and plenty of people get by with it while still being less predisposed towards this kind of thing. Blaming a condition you may or may not even have isn't a great look

Snow
July 11th, 2018, 07:37 PM
Thanks all ILU

Also hedonism is good everyone should try once in a while.

Prix with a Silent X
July 11th, 2018, 07:42 PM
Those are just my reasons against attending social gatherings. I don't like hedonism. As for conversation, there are just very few people that I can hold a genuine conversation with. There's a Stanford professor emeritus I enjoy talking to about prog rock, my drug addict friend, and a guy that went to MIT who I find really funny. Most other people try to talk to me about sports or other menial things that I just don't understand. Maybe I'm autistic or something, I don't know.

You don't like hedonism and yet you joined a forum for Japanese porn games. On a more serious note, on the very slim chance that you are willing to exercise your capability of listening to someone else without the sole and explicit intention of using whatever they say as a run up a ladder to try and exalt yourself above all the users of an internet forum like climbing a Jenga tower, you will probably find that as you get older if you continue to participate in society that the vast majority of genuinely intelligent people largely come across in very similar ways to these regular, earnest, boring, ~un-intellectual~ people that you abhor so much. Thing is, as a society, most of us hold our big ideas closer and closer to our chests as we operate in careers and other aspects of public life. It is what it is, good or bad, but it is a part of surviving a world in which a lot of people have different big ideas to approach random strangers -- on the internet or otherwise -- with the smaller ones first to lessen the risk of getting one's fingers bitten as it were. Small talk might be boring and worthless in a vast majority of cases, but it is a social tool that people use to open the door to communication and to express sympathy to a fellow human being whether it is wholly genuine or not in order to establish pathways where trust can be built to whatever extent is convenient and necessary. Viewing yourself as inherently above everyone you engage with, as you clearly seem to, is -- as Beamu said -- a roadblock to conversation. It's also a roadblock to yourself as a person because there is absolutely no reason for you to assume you're the smartest in the room at any given time. Even if you know it at the moment, what good does it do you? Absolutely none outside a classroom.

Side-note: Being autistic isn't an insult or an excuse for something.
Side-note #2: The age old stand-by of smart nerds acting like sports exemplify everything that is wrong with 'mainstream' society is a tired one. IDGAF about 95% of all sports-related anything, but there is something to be said for the fact that those who are actually successful in a vast majority of sports have skill-sets centered around cooperation that many less athletic people could have utilized in other areas as well. Group identity is important to mental health, and sports fans aren't inherently doing anything that you don't do by picking a mobage team. Yeah, there's sort of institutionalized misogyny inherent in Sports communities, but would you know where else that might be found? The answer may shock you!

Now back to your regularly-scheduled, it's-actually-hard-to-take-this-level-of-trying-to-sound-smarter-than-the-other-nerds-around-you programming.

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See, I can tangled, unnecessarily complicated syntax, too!

Arashi_Leonhart
July 11th, 2018, 07:44 PM
The answer may shock you!

where's the clickbait button

SeiKeo
July 11th, 2018, 07:55 PM
Plus, to be fair, I’m not really sure I would call the original Fate VN hedonism.

Mujaya
July 11th, 2018, 08:02 PM
My mother is autistic, so it would make sense. Otherwise you're mistaking what I suggested could be an explanation for an excuse. There are no excuses.

Prix with a Silent X
July 11th, 2018, 08:16 PM
Plus, to be fair, I’m not really sure I would call the original Fate VN hedonism.

*Scathach and Medb porn written prior to localization, excuse.

just Beamu
July 11th, 2018, 08:20 PM
My mother is autistic, so it would make sense. Otherwise you're mistaking what I suggested could be an explanation for an excuse. There are no excuses.
you really don't need to try making every post you make have more gravity than it actually does

Canon
July 11th, 2018, 08:25 PM
Consider the cuttlefish

Walnut Sparks
July 11th, 2018, 08:42 PM
http://ilovestickyrice.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/giant-cuttlefish.jpg

Well, I consider it to be a squid designed by the makers of Pokemon.

SeiKeo
July 11th, 2018, 08:46 PM
*Scathach and Medb porn written prior to localization, excuse.
Well, nothing wrong with that.

Zurvan
July 11th, 2018, 08:56 PM
We have loads of fun

Historia
July 11th, 2018, 10:02 PM
What's the difference of pre and post Scathach/Medb porn in localization? The amount of thigh sex?

Prix with a Silent X
July 11th, 2018, 10:29 PM
Having any characterization to go on beyond what one imagines anime emoji-faces mean when playing a game one can't read. I like my porn with a little bit of plot is all I'm saying.

just Beamu
July 11th, 2018, 10:46 PM
Plot based porn is far and away superior yes

Zurvan
July 11th, 2018, 10:59 PM
make your own plot kiddos

LJ3
July 11th, 2018, 11:18 PM
^^Theres a lot of those

but it might not be the plot you want

SpoonyViking
July 11th, 2018, 11:23 PM
Plot based porn is far and away superior yes

Used to translate porn for a living, can confirm.

Mujaya
July 11th, 2018, 11:37 PM
You don't like hedonism and yet you joined a forum for Japanese porn games. On a more serious note, on the very slim chance that you are willing to exercise your capability of listening to someone else without the sole and explicit intention of using whatever they say as a run up a ladder to try and exalt yourself above all the users of an internet forum like climbing a Jenga tower, you will probably find that as you get older if you continue to participate in society that the vast majority of genuinely intelligent people largely come across in very similar ways to these regular, earnest, boring, ~un-intellectual~ people that you abhor so much. Thing is, as a society, most of us hold our big ideas closer and closer to our chests as we operate in careers and other aspects of public life. It is what it is, good or bad, but it is a part of surviving a world in which a lot of people have different big ideas to approach random strangers -- on the internet or otherwise -- with the smaller ones first to lessen the risk of getting one's fingers bitten as it were. Small talk might be boring and worthless in a vast majority of cases, but it is a social tool that people use to open the door to communication and to express sympathy to a fellow human being whether it is wholly genuine or not in order to establish pathways where trust can be built to whatever extent is convenient and necessary. Viewing yourself as inherently above everyone you engage with, as you clearly seem to, is -- as Beamu said -- a roadblock to conversation. It's also a roadblock to yourself as a person because there is absolutely no reason for you to assume you're the smartest in the room at any given time. Even if you know it at the moment, what good does it do you? Absolutely none outside a classroom.

Side-note: Being autistic isn't an insult or an excuse for something.
Side-note #2: The age old stand-by of smart nerds acting like sports exemplify everything that is wrong with 'mainstream' society is a tired one. IDGAF about 95% of all sports-related anything, but there is something to be said for the fact that those who are actually successful in a vast majority of sports have skill-sets centered around cooperation that many less athletic people could have utilized in other areas as well. Group identity is important to mental health, and sports fans aren't inherently doing anything that you don't do by picking a mobage team. Yeah, there's sort of institutionalized misogyny inherent in Sports communities, but would you know where else that might be found? The answer may shock you!

Now back to your regularly-scheduled, it's-actually-hard-to-take-this-level-of-trying-to-sound-smarter-than-the-other-nerds-around-you programming.

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See, I can tangled, unnecessarily complicated syntax, too!
You're mistaking an aesthetic appreciation for an animalistic sexual desire. The sexually explicit aspects of fate and Tsukihime were attempts to market the game. This is seen obviously in the fact that type moon has toned down the sexuality and placed more of an emphasis on aesthetics and storytelling. "There's sex in type moon, you like type moon, therefore you are hedonistic" doesn't apply. Also, indulgence is not the same as hedonism

tldr: type moon isn't that concerned about boobies anymore. Type moon was never about boobies.

and under what circumstance am I attempting to exalt myself? I provided my input on aesthetics, and you asked me why I don't "go outside lol". Well for one it's because I'm an introvert, and two it's because I enjoy studying. Is it not you who are attempting to feel exalted by denigrating me? Is "you think you're better than everyone else?" also not an exaltation because you place yourself in the position of the judge? Sure, maybe my disposition towards social conventions is incorrect, and we're discussing that at the moment, but your use of an ad hominem seems like an attempt to place yourself above me, which is similar to the hypocrisy that you claim I exhibit.

tldr: im not exalted, im a moron, you are.


And I don't abhor unintellectual people. I said I don't care for people who don't have anything i find interesting to say. I mingle with people who enjoy things like hip hop and anime, not inherently intellectual practices; not sure if you could tell because you never took the leisure to mention that, but I'm probably better at criticizing myself than you are.

tldr; I admit that I am a moron with a very specific way of living. What's your point?

under no circumstance am I required to attend parties to participate in a work environment. That's self evident. No tldr required.

And it's not my job to validate people, nor is it other people's job to validate me. It's my job to validate myself, and it's other people's jobs to validate themselves

I will however validate your strawmans and ad hominems, because I am a moron after all.

and I don't understand your appeal to feminism. I just think sports are boring. It isn't about any of that other crap. I don't care. I'm probably the closest thing to a republican you're going to see on this website.

LJ3
July 11th, 2018, 11:41 PM
Can’t we all just get along

Prix with a Silent X
July 12th, 2018, 12:07 AM
You're mistaking an aesthetic appreciation for an animalistic sexual desire. The sexually explicit aspects of fate and Tsukihime were attempts to market the game. This is seen obviously in the fact that type moon has toned down the sexuality and placed more of an emphasis on aesthetics and storytelling. "There's sex in type moon, you like type moon, therefore you are hedonistic" doesn't apply. Also, indulgence is not the same as hedonism

tldr: type moon isn't that concerned about boobies anymore. Type moon was never about boobies.

and under what circumstance am I attempting to exalt myself? I provided my input on aesthetics, and you asked me why I don't "go outside lol". Well for one it's because I'm an introvert, and two it's because I enjoy studying. Is it not you who are attempting to feel exalted by denigrating me? Is "you think you're better than everyone else?" also not an exaltation because you place yourself in the position of the judge? Sure, maybe my disposition towards social conventions is incorrect, and we're discussing that at the moment, but your use of an ad hominem seems like an attempt to place yourself above me, which is similar to the hypocrisy that you claim I exhibit.

tldr: im not exalted, im a moron, you are.


And I don't abhor unintellectual people. I said I don't care for people who don't have anything i find interesting to say. I mingle with people who enjoy things like hip hop and anime, not inherently intellectual practices; not sure if you could tell because you never took the leisure to mention that, but I'm probably better at criticizing myself than you are.

tldr; I admit that I am a moron with a very specific way of living. What's your point?

under no circumstance am I required to attend parties to participate in a work environment. That's self evident. No tldr required.

And it's not my job to validate people, nor is it other people's job to validate me. It's my job to validate myself, and it's other people's jobs to validate themselves

I will however validate your strawmans and ad hominems, because I am a moron after all.

and I don't understand your appeal to feminism. I just think sports are boring. It isn't about any of that other crap. I don't care. I'm probably the closest thing to a republican you're going to see on this website.

Look, my "go outside" comment was flippant but a genuine appeal toward the idea that even if you are an intellectual person that in the interpersonal interactions of everyday life once it really gets going, it's exhausting to constantly present yourself in such a way that no one would mistake you for a plebeian or whatever. It's a matter of what a person expresses versus what a person's inner qualities are. Trying too hard to express that one is smart and intellectual sometimes takes away from the ability to live a happy life. I'm saying this as a person who used to take this damn website way too seriously. I'm being snippy when I am because you seem snippy. And if you're not? Well it all goes back to that thing about self-presentation again, doesn't it?

I never called you a moron. It's not ad hominem to suggest that someone would benefit from a freshened perspective which is what "go outside" is vaguely rude short-hand for.

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Can’t we all just get along

I'm having a great time lately. How are you?

LJ3
July 12th, 2018, 12:31 AM
Honestly, pretty alright for myself.

Just doing the the daily grind of work and then slack off with my Chinese porn cartoons

Canon
July 12th, 2018, 12:55 AM
type moon isn't that concerned about boobies anymore.


SeiKeo
July 12th, 2018, 01:02 AM
Having any characterization to go on beyond what one imagines anime emoji-faces mean when playing a game one can't read. I like my porn with a little bit of plot is all I'm saying.
Hello, I’ll be filling in for Dullahan tonight. Ahem. They do not have characterization because they are in the acclaimed video game Fate Grand Order.

Arashi_Leonhart
July 12th, 2018, 01:04 AM


*screams in karuta*

Dullahan
July 12th, 2018, 01:06 AM
Hello, I’ll be filling in for Dullahan tonight. Ahem. They do not have characterization because they are in the acclaimed video game Fate Grand Order.

listen here u cheeky cunt

Canon
July 12th, 2018, 01:07 AM
Not enough vitriol

SeiKeo
July 12th, 2018, 01:08 AM
However, their untranslated interludes are good.

Mujaya
July 12th, 2018, 01:11 AM
Look, my "go outside" comment was flippant but a genuine appeal toward the idea that even if you are an intellectual person that in the interpersonal interactions of everyday life once it really gets going, it's exhausting to constantly present yourself in such a way that no one would mistake you for a plebeian or whatever. It's a matter of what a person expresses versus what a person's inner qualities are. Trying too hard to express that one is smart and intellectual sometimes takes away from the ability to live a happy life. I'm saying this as a person who used to take this damn website way too seriously. I'm being snippy when I am because you seem snippy. And if you're not? Well it all goes back to that thing about self-presentation again, doesn't it?

I never called you a moron. It's not ad hominem to suggest that someone would benefit from a freshened perspective which is what "go outside" is vaguely rude short-hand for.

Aesthetics and art are something I take very seriously. You guys were talking about how art and artists are criticized now a days, and I explained to you that the reason why was because art has lost its value, and that's because artists don't care about art. How does my analysis not suffice? Is art not intellectual? Does it not take a certain understanding of the world and of meaning to be an artist? I admit that the Sally Amaki thing was just me being retarded. I hate her persona because I think it's cliche, it's simple. I don't always dullahanpost, and I enjoy it because I know it improves my writing. And writing is not exhausting because it comes easy to me. I never even wanted to be a writer, but writing, analysis and philosophy have become things that I enjoy doing. I certainly don't spend 2 hours on each shitpost if that's what you think.
I am snippy but I don't go after people. If I do it's because I feel like they're going after me or others. I'm just disagreeable. For the record I do enjoy taking commies apart but that's an isolated circumstance

mAc Chaos
July 12th, 2018, 01:17 AM
> dullahanposting

its finally taking off

SeiKeo
July 12th, 2018, 01:20 AM
> dullahanposting

its finally taking off
You could at least give Dull more credit than ‘sounds like a homeschooled kid who just got out of his 2nd College Republicans meeting’.

Snow
July 12th, 2018, 03:16 AM
I'm a commie take me apart daddy

Mujaya
July 12th, 2018, 03:25 AM
I'm a commie take me apart daddy
I don't have any helicopters or cranes on hand, and if you're into vore we're gonna have to stand about 8 hours in the bread line.

Zurvan
July 12th, 2018, 04:11 AM
Give me your "hot takes" daddy, take me down

Snow
July 12th, 2018, 04:22 AM
Gigulagolo

Zurvan
July 12th, 2018, 04:39 AM
Baby you know it

Sunara
July 12th, 2018, 05:05 AM
Those are just my reasons against attending social gatherings. I don't like hedonism. As for conversation, there are just very few people that I can hold a genuine conversation with. There's a Stanford professor emeritus I enjoy talking to about prog rock, my drug addict friend, and a guy that went to MIT who I find really funny. Most other people try to talk to me about sports or other menial things that I just don't understand. Maybe I'm autistic or something, I don't know.
Honestly, I feel like you are giving excuses to hide.... I have a co-worker with autism that is really smart because she works super hard to learn/relate/etc. And even though I know a lot; I recognize that others are just as smart if not more. There's a lot to be learned from other people even the druggies you look down on. (And yes, I'm in an infested town too.) You never know what someone might know unless you bring up a topic. They might surprise you.

I personally find the creativity & resourcefulness, of some of the people I meet, intriguing. Learning new ways of doing things.

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make your own plot kiddos
Isn't that called reading manga, in a language you don't know, & guessing the story? XP

Zurvan
July 12th, 2018, 05:07 AM
No I meant get laid

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But really you may take my words for whatever you want to

Saiga
July 12th, 2018, 05:10 AM
I choose the significantly more achievable option

Sunara
July 12th, 2018, 05:21 AM
Aesthetics and art are something I take very seriously. You guys were talking about how art and artists are criticized now a days, and I explained to you that the reason why was because art has lost its value, and that's because artists don't care about art. How does my analysis not suffice? Is art not intellectual? Does it not take a certain understanding of the world and of meaning to be an artist? I admit that the Sally Amaki thing was just me being retarded. I hate her persona because I think it's cliche, it's simple. I don't always dullahanpost, and I enjoy it because I know it improves my writing. And writing is not exhausting because it comes easy to me. I never even wanted to be a writer, but writing, analysis and philosophy have become things that I enjoy doing. I certainly don't spend 2 hours on each shitpost if that's what you think.
I am snippy but I don't go after people. If I do it's because I feel like they're going after me or others. I'm just disagreeable. For the record I do enjoy taking commies apart but that's an isolated circumstance
Dude, you need to take a chill pill, not insult every single artist & know what you're talking about. At this point, you're just trolling.
I know many artists (irl) and they work very hard at it. The images you see take many years of training & drawing/practicing every single day. You can't do that if you "don't care about art." There is a lot that goes into producing a single piece; let alone an entire comic, etc. Both the art & writing fields require a lot of revision and learning.

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No I meant get laid

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But really you may take my words for whatever you want to
That is always good too... XP
But I was trying to lighten the mood by making a joke.

Zurvan
July 12th, 2018, 05:31 AM
I thought we had plenty of jokes itt

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I kid, of course

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I choose the significantly more achievable option

I always knew you were a chad deep down

Sunara
July 12th, 2018, 05:43 AM
What, you're a goat? And here I thought you were Zurvan. XP

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And I'm going to disappear again.... stuff to do, sleep to be hadden, things to learn, media to consume like a good little flame.... I mean human. XP

Trying to learn the pixiv art app, learn Japanese, figure out how to create my comic, etc etc & juggle chores when I'm not working 40 hours a week.

Strife ❤️
July 12th, 2018, 06:21 AM
Me at Vatican City yesterday.

https://i.imgur.com/zLtP3Up.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/TaBWwEc.jpg

just Beamu
July 12th, 2018, 07:11 AM
No I meant get laid

Don't exactly need any help there buddy

Zurvan
July 12th, 2018, 07:35 AM
Look at you, oh how quickly they grow up

just Beamu
July 12th, 2018, 08:51 AM
been a while actually