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Quad
October 10th, 2014, 05:37 AM
Drawing is hard. :\Anyway here's a Kanshou I traced (pun intended)
http://i.imgur.com/drw79Dx.png

And my Command Spell if I had one
http://i.imgur.com/aoG8zj1.png

Enhance
October 10th, 2014, 07:25 PM
You are now.

Quad
October 10th, 2014, 09:37 PM
bad 3D render of kanshou
http://i.imgur.com/rCWQigb.png

francobull3
October 10th, 2014, 09:37 PM
I came!

Quad
October 10th, 2014, 09:57 PM
I came!
Uh.. Gross.

Quad
October 11th, 2014, 01:34 AM
Considerably prettier 3D render
http://i.imgur.com/THf2PYK.png

Quad
October 11th, 2014, 01:59 AM
And both of them
http://i.imgur.com/qeL1tuo.png

my modeling thing has poly limits so I can't really do the taijitu. :/

- - - Updated - - -

artistic version

http://i.imgur.com/qdGMezz.png

RossC90
October 11th, 2014, 05:10 AM
Whoa hey there! Are you making 3D models? This was slightly my forte until I tried to focus on getting better at 2D art. I'd be super happy to extend a helping hand out.

What programs are you using for these models? Do you know how to UV Unwrap/Map? For renders you probably want to bake an AO (Ambient Occlusion map) over your model to make it pop out shading wise. Likewise, I'm not so sure if this would help on something like a specific weapon but you could also apply gradient maps.

Here's the idea of just a basic gradient map over a model I made, without an AO map/pass:
http://i.imgur.com/usCGxEH.jpg

And here's what an AO map pass can do:

http://i.imgur.com/jHZr4DT.png

These both share the same rendering and lighting setups, just one has an AO pass (based on a high poly sculpt) over it. As you can see, the AO map pass adds subtle shadows on the edges of shapes (it's more prominent on the rocks) and takes in account shadows being casted on it (the lower jaw is shaded on it's upper part).

Though AO maps usually benefit from high poly sculpts from zbrush or mudbox, it can still really help textures on lower poly models.

Granted if you haven't learned UV Unwrapping, you'll need to learn how to do that first.

Quad
October 11th, 2014, 01:46 PM
I'm actually making these for a game, so my tools for making them are a bit limited. I can only use CSG, and mapping (as far as I'm aware) is a planned feature but not actually implemented yet. I also have a poly-limit of 2500, which kind of limits it.

I'm not amazing at it by any standards, I was just making them for something else and decided to share.
(also no, the game isn't really fate related, it's an easter egg)

RossC90
October 11th, 2014, 02:02 PM
CSG? So like AutoCAD or something? And you can ONLY use CSG? School Project?

Thats surprising, while I'm sure not all schools can dish out money for 3DSMAX or MAYA, I feel that they should atleast let you use Blender or something, especially if the project is game related. The model I posted earlier is definitely under 2500 polys and was made for the DotA 2 Workshop.

Is this a custom engine? You've got me curious now.

Quad
October 11th, 2014, 02:18 PM
Ah, no. There's a game called Roblox, which until pretty recently you'd just build lego-like things in, but they recently added CSG to it.
I've been getting familiar with their API for a few years now and you can cash out your virtual currency if you get enough of it. I've kind of gotten into the upper circle so it should be easy to get publicity after I finish my project.

Frostyvale
October 11th, 2014, 10:32 PM
was made for the DotA 2 Workshop.
Oh my, that's a Forged Spirit replacement. Very nice.

Phearo
October 15th, 2014, 06:42 PM
Ah, no. There's a game called Roblox, which until pretty recently you'd just build lego-like things in, but they recently added CSG to it.
I've been getting familiar with their API for a few years now and you can cash out your virtual currency if you get enough of it. I've kind of gotten into the upper circle so it should be easy to get publicity after I finish my project.

..ROBLOX, huh. I knew it looked familiar.

KitsuneKo
October 15th, 2014, 07:13 PM
Do I say something pretentiously nice or bluntly rude?

Hmmhmmmmmm...

francobull3
October 15th, 2014, 07:15 PM
Nice job, but ya could try to make kanshou and bakuya a bit more curved.

Enhance
October 16th, 2014, 09:25 AM
Oh my, that's a Forged Spirit replacement. Very nice.
I thought it was but didn't find any indication in that post. So it was in the next one!

Anyway, I like it too. It's not related to this thread but RossC90, if you link to your workshop item so I will upvote it.

RossC90
October 16th, 2014, 12:50 PM
I thought it was but didn't find any indication in that post. So it was in the next one!

Anyway, I like it too. It's not related to this thread but RossC90, if you link to your workshop item so I will upvote it.

Click the image to go to it. I'll probably rework it later, I'm trying to get better at 2D art/painting because my textures are kind of meh-ish.

http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/3317203962273899370/E04C69A256F3DB1D2749F4694C8F4C2BA68E2214/637x358.resizedimage (http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=234278622)


To keep this from derailing into Ross' Fanart Dump Thread #2, ROBLOX? I've never heard of ROBLOX, but you can create your own virtual items for ingame currency to cash out later if you get enough? Sounds interesting! Does ROBLOX have it's own CSG editor? What are you using to create your CSG models?

Quad
October 17th, 2014, 02:52 AM
Nice job, but ya could try to make kanshou and bakuya a bit more curved.
http://i.imgur.com/MRH6dLV.png
best I could come up with.

@RossC90:
It has its own built in CSG editor. It's not particularly advanced but it works pretty well.

Quad
October 18th, 2014, 06:26 PM
Oh here's a bad drawing I did a while ago of Luna from Zero Escape.
http://i.imgur.com/ILQZGdG.pngreference: http://i.imgur.com/mW5jD28.jpg

If it makes you feel better, I wasn't trying to make it look good lol

Phearo
October 18th, 2014, 07:16 PM
She's seen something terrifying, man.

Quad
October 18th, 2014, 09:22 PM
She's seen something terrifying, man.
More importantly, something terrifying has seen her.

francobull3
October 18th, 2014, 09:25 PM
http://i.imgur.com/MRH6dLV.png
best I could come up with.

@RossC90:
It has its own built in CSG editor. It's not particularly advanced but it works pretty well.
It's already much better :D
GJ

Quad
October 21st, 2014, 11:48 PM
Doodling in class
http://i.imgur.com/3FeTCSl.png
Tried byakuya too, but came out more like baduya so here's a totally real drawing that I actually did
http://i.imgur.com/6U6IHnL.png

Quad
October 26th, 2014, 03:55 AM
My tablet is out of commission for a while so I won't be doing anything with color (possibly forever). So that sucks.

Phearo
October 26th, 2014, 07:28 AM
Huh, you had a tablet? Well, here's a tip if you get a new one/get it fixed. If you're doing outlines, try and practice using longer strokes instead of short ones. If it's simple shapes do the same for the outside, I suppose.

Also, what application are you using? There's quite a bit of ways to do shading without having the fine control of a tablet.

mirakura
October 27th, 2014, 07:46 PM
Doodling in class
http://i.imgur.com/3FeTCSl.png
Tried byakuya too, but came out more like baduya so here's a totally real drawing that I actually did
http://i.imgur.com/6U6IHnL.png

Glorious :3

Intel_Captain
October 27th, 2014, 08:08 PM
Oh here's a bad drawing I did a while ago of Luna from Zero Escape.
http://i.imgur.com/ILQZGdG.pngreference: http://i.imgur.com/mW5jD28.jpg

Beautiful.

Viz
October 28th, 2014, 01:50 AM
Oh here's a bad drawing I did a while ago of Luna from Zero Escape.
http://i.imgur.com/ILQZGdG.pngreference: http://i.imgur.com/mW5jD28.jpg

If it makes you feel better, I wasn't trying to make it look good lol
And I thought I was bad.

Quad
October 28th, 2014, 01:48 PM
more in-class doodles
http://i.imgur.com/5sa5Fbk.png
(kanshou, byakuya, gae bolg, clarent) in case nobody can recognize

mirakura
October 28th, 2014, 01:53 PM
more in-class doodles
http://i.imgur.com/5sa5Fbk.png
(kanshou, byakuya, gae bolg, clarent) in case nobody can recognize Glorious. What did you draw the with?

Quad
October 28th, 2014, 02:19 PM
random pen
http://i.imgur.com/AZc9KlU.png
use monochrome effect on paint.net

mirakura
October 28th, 2014, 02:21 PM
Quad-kun, drawing comp, who is the worst artist~!?

Quad
October 28th, 2014, 02:24 PM
Not sure if compliment

mirakura
October 28th, 2014, 02:34 PM
I have a round about way of saying things. I-It's not like it's not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, a compliment~Yurika

Quad
October 28th, 2014, 02:38 PM
Okay, thanks

Quad
October 28th, 2014, 07:34 PM
MESSING.

http://i.imgur.com/SevL2ZH.png

digital colorization. I like how it turned out for a first try

Quad
October 29th, 2014, 06:47 PM
Here's my latest, drawn while in line for the DMV.
http://i.imgur.com/ftMY7K4.png

Quad
October 29th, 2014, 07:12 PM
And the digitally colorized version
http://i.imgur.com/PEpK8Tw.png

Quad
October 30th, 2014, 07:52 PM
Here's the exact reason that I don't draw people.
http://i.imgur.com/TDTo3lw.png
http://i.imgur.com/DLx7XaC.png

bad as it is, i'm probably still going to make it my profile picture
edit: yes, yes I did

francobull3
October 30th, 2014, 08:17 PM
Whatare you saying?
It's beautiful!

Quad
October 30th, 2014, 08:21 PM
I'm mostly disappointed that somehow I managed to draw 1/3 of her hair.
i do think i managed to make her cute so she can just deal with that

I think my next thing to draw would be Archer. Is the world ready for this?

Quad
October 31st, 2014, 02:03 AM
Here's an awful rushed Kirei that I'm going to redo because I messed up everything above his shoulders
http://i.imgur.com/Yh13CFu.png
I was rushing so much that I forgot to start on a new layer, too. So I don't even have the sketch version of this same picture

Viz
October 31st, 2014, 02:44 AM
And the digitally colorized version
http://i.imgur.com/PEpK8Tw.png


Here's the exact reason that I don't draw people.
http://i.imgur.com/TDTo3lw.png
http://i.imgur.com/DLx7XaC.png

bad as it is, i'm probably still going to make it my profile picture
edit: yes, yes I did
First time you draw her with the nameless chain dagger?

Quad
October 31st, 2014, 03:22 AM
I don't understand the question.
I drew her dagger first and just crudely shopped it in for my avatar.

Viz
October 31st, 2014, 03:26 AM
And the digitally colorized version
http://i.imgur.com/PEpK8Tw.png


I don't understand the question.
I drew her dagger first and just crudely shopped it in for my avatar.
It's quite simple, Quad.
Did you drew Rider with her nameless chain dagger for the 1st time?

Quad
October 31st, 2014, 04:42 AM
I've only drawn Rider once, without the dagger.
I drew the dagger before (without rider) twice.

Viz
October 31st, 2014, 05:20 AM
Keep practicing.
You can only improve for now on. ;)

Quad
October 31st, 2014, 02:09 PM
I like how this came out for everything except the eyes
http://i.imgur.com/q3A8QY5.png
http://i.imgur.com/gXP7EAW.png

mirakura
October 31st, 2014, 02:48 PM
Getting better :3 Are you using SAI by any chance?

Quad
October 31st, 2014, 03:01 PM
No, I'm using a mechanical pencil and paint.NET.
I was using SAI on my tablet but it's dead :(

Phearo
November 1st, 2014, 12:34 AM
How are you using your mechanical pencil?

Quad
November 1st, 2014, 02:34 AM
How are you using your mechanical pencil?
With my hands. Or maybe I'm misunderstanding the question.

Phearo
November 1st, 2014, 02:46 AM
With my hands. Or maybe I'm misunderstanding the question.


Yeah... It's just, it looks.. blotchy? The lines, I mean.

Quad
November 1st, 2014, 03:02 AM
Oh. That's because all these drawing are actually really small.

Petrikow
November 1st, 2014, 02:06 PM
he's actually just manually arranging particles

what we see are 100,000 zoom-ins on the sides of molecules

i don't expect you plebs to understand though

Quad
November 1st, 2014, 04:17 PM
he's actually just manually arranging particles

what we see are 100,000 zoom-ins on the sides of molecules

i don't expect you plebs to understand though
thanks for ruining my secret, jerk

Quad
November 2nd, 2014, 03:32 AM
GUYS I THINK I SAVED SAKURA
http://i.imgur.com/ZLSYtdj.png

Might be a lazy solution, but I can't draw eyes for crap.
My other idea was to have her borrow Rider's blindfold.

Quad
November 2nd, 2014, 04:02 AM
oh and i was messing around and made this
http://i.imgur.com/JLuqbT7.png
it wasn't meant to be good at all

idk i really like the one i'm using as my avatar lol
http://i.imgur.com/Bfxlv19.png

Quad
November 3rd, 2014, 02:18 AM
I can't give up on this picture for some reason, idk.
http://i.imgur.com/m6LDvgw.png
Adding dark lines helped a bit

Quad
November 3rd, 2014, 10:02 PM
I actually like the way this one turned out.
http://i.imgur.com/IszNBZL.png
http://i.imgur.com/9OhdgSF.png

I mean, I still suck at eyes, but at least this time I failed them in a cute way. :p

edit:
Tried fixing her eye, haven't decided whether this or the original is better
http://i.imgur.com/wgLPXJS.png

francobull3
November 3rd, 2014, 10:06 PM
I shit you not you are actually improving.
Keep at it!

Quad
November 3rd, 2014, 11:19 PM
i forgot to layer properly
http://i.imgur.com/BohG602.png
better

Quad
November 4th, 2014, 12:34 AM
idk if anyone would be interested by this but i found some of my doodles from in class two years ago and they're actually ok
I don't remember the context for any of the latin or runes though
http://i.imgur.com/opxsXxT.png

Quad
November 4th, 2014, 03:27 AM
ok, I think I'm done messing with this picture now
http://i.imgur.com/XnzPzRk.png
I really like how it turned out

Quad
November 4th, 2014, 07:34 PM
Not my favorite, but I made this to go with my Caster
http://i.imgur.com/7LRghIP.png
http://i.imgur.com/h4p5y4g.png

obviously that means a picture of it with Caster is due:
http://i.imgur.com/Z4uktC8.png

There's a good chance that I'll be able to get a new tablet in the next couple of months, so that's good news

Huitante
November 5th, 2014, 09:38 AM
http://i.imgur.com/Bfxlv19.png


http://i.imgur.com/m6LDvgw.png


Cute

Quad
November 8th, 2014, 02:46 PM
I don't have another rt ready to post yet, but I have a question for much more pro artists than me.
Would it be better to get a surface pro, or one of the intuos tablets?
I mean, it'd be nice to have another computer but if there's a significant difference between how good they are for drawing..

Five_X
November 8th, 2014, 02:48 PM
Buy a Surface Pro.

Phearo
November 8th, 2014, 07:11 PM
If all you want is a drawing tablet, you would just be wasting power with the Surface Pro. Get the Intous instead. Wacom's got a good rep, even though I don't use their products I would still recommend them.

Quad
November 15th, 2014, 11:15 PM
help, i can't draw things big. That caster picture would literally fit in one square inch. i just measured it

Quad
November 15th, 2014, 11:39 PM
anyway in my first attempt of drawing something in a reasonable size, here's tohsaka rin. idk if i should bother trying to color it because I got her head size wrong and it's bothering me
http://i.imgur.com/oU351tb.png
in other news, i think i drew her eyes okay so yay

Phearo
November 16th, 2014, 01:05 AM
I really hate drawing big traditional pictures myself. With a pen the ink just putters out before my stroke finishes, so I have to constantly redo the line, making them look a lot less sharper. I've grown somewhat out of that habit, but there isn't really anything bad with making small pictures, Quad, you can still improve at the same rate. Probably faster?

Quad
November 18th, 2014, 02:47 PM
I didn't start off with anyone in mind but it kind of came out as Shiki. I think it's alright
http://i.imgur.com/OSBKlmA.png

Quad
December 2nd, 2014, 05:32 PM
Nothing particularly good today, but I have some high hopes for my new rider

http://i.imgur.com/wYP8NYK.png

http://i.imgur.com/wBtWuFk.png
simple shirou is simple

Quad
December 3rd, 2014, 12:43 AM
Yey acceptable looking rider :D
http://i.imgur.com/X0Dd61s.png
I messed up the coloring on her boots several times and I give up for today. I'll probably be back with a nicer version soon

Quad
December 4th, 2014, 07:00 PM
MERRY CHRISTMAS-SEASON
http://i.imgur.com/Up848sy.png

colored version to be my avatar

francobull3
December 4th, 2014, 07:02 PM
Just wondering, when you draw, do you do it in one or multiple strokes?

Quad
December 4th, 2014, 08:48 PM
Here's the colorized version.

http://i.imgur.com/7dr8WL8.png


http://i.imgur.com/p7czUKl.png
- - - Updated - - -


Just wondering, when you draw, do you do it in one or multiple strokes?
Multiple. I'd like to say it's my style but really I'm just never satisfied with the first stroke.

Quad
December 6th, 2014, 06:35 AM
http://i.imgur.com/zyAJHox.png

Not fanart but I'm posting all my crap here, so take it anyway.
artistic representation of a girl I know on IRC. She told me she wants people to imagine her as having long white hair and red eyes.

Quad
December 6th, 2014, 04:15 PM
yey.
http://i.imgur.com/gfjk2Dc.png

KosakiFag
December 9th, 2014, 05:46 AM
Cute art.
I like it.
They're all just so cute.

Quad
December 24th, 2014, 05:46 AM
sorry I don't know if people are like sitting around thinking "why isn't quad posting anything" or if nobody really cares, but either way, the reason I haven't been posting things is because i've been lazy and I'm procrastinating drawing in hopes of maybe getting a new tablet soon.

Viz
December 24th, 2014, 05:51 AM
Quad, do you draw in traditional also?

Quad
December 25th, 2014, 05:21 AM
Traditional? Almost everything I've posted here was done with a pencil. I just don't (either "like" or "have the tools") to color normally, so I color on the computer.

Viz
December 25th, 2014, 05:26 AM
Traditional? Almost everything I've posted here was done with a pencil. I just don't (either "like" or "have the tools") to color normally, so I color on the computer.
This is what I drew entirely in Traditional.
http://i.imgur.com/OPyMMPY.jpg
Maybe Quad, you should look for some references.
You can improve with these.

Quad
January 6th, 2015, 03:49 AM
not TM related. self portrait.
http://i.imgur.com/JRNaUcd.png
it's kind of ridiculous, i traced a picture of my face and still managed to screw up the jawline somehow

Viz
January 6th, 2015, 02:29 PM
Do you use Drawing Books, Quad?
I do and they help a lot for me.

Quad
January 6th, 2015, 02:35 PM
no i'm just doodling

Viz
January 6th, 2015, 02:39 PM
no i'm just doodling
For serious art I would recommand you to use them.

Quad
January 6th, 2015, 11:05 PM
for my bible class i need to submit an artistic interpretation of esther, so i drew this. not really tm related
http://i.imgur.com/ox14qjf.jpg
huge picture so not embedding

scanners are amazing. why wasn't i doing this before? that zoom is incredible

Quad
January 8th, 2015, 07:58 PM
not tm related, phi from virtue's last reward
I wanted to try a flat art style and i was practicing face proportions
http://i.imgur.com/3hTNb4x.png

Quad
January 10th, 2015, 05:25 AM
same picture, but less smoothed out. this one uses my original pencil lines from the scan and isn't ultra-contrasted or anything
http://i.imgur.com/vBz0Mx1.png
Not really sure which style I prefer.

Quad
January 10th, 2015, 03:26 PM
how do you draw ears?
http://i.imgur.com/vzkKdvq.png

also, I should definitely be resizing these smaller. my scanner is too powerful

Quad
January 11th, 2015, 04:37 AM
note these are still just for practice
http://i.imgur.com/ZoCeBwD.png

Walnut Sparks
January 11th, 2015, 08:17 AM
how do you draw ears?

Personally? When not doing fanart, something like this.

The third line follows the outline of the ear very evenly.

- - - Updated - - -

Ears are hard, they look like they came straight from God's margin scribbles.

That is an amusing expression for Saber.

Quad
January 11th, 2015, 03:15 PM
"like they came straight from God's margin scribbles."
i believe that's literally true and nobody will ever convince me otherwise. same with fish

Thanks for the advice, I'll definitely practice that. :p

Quad
January 12th, 2015, 02:01 AM
hmmm.

old
http://i.imgur.com/q3A8QY5.png

new
http://i.imgur.com/6UoU0P9.png

still not a fan of the eyes but i'll get them down eventually. todo: berserker/argus to practice eyes

Quad
January 12th, 2015, 02:03 PM
http://i.imgur.com/9MVPCor.png

Viz
January 13th, 2015, 03:41 PM
Quad, do you look on DeviantArt for tutorials?
I think they are useful for you.

Quad
January 13th, 2015, 06:37 PM
no, i've been on youtube a bunch. there've been some very helpful things there.

anyway, today's in-class doodles

http://i.imgur.com/PKH6bHO.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Gs0MB7b.jpg

Viz
January 14th, 2015, 01:33 PM
Hmmmmmmm...
Ok, I see you're slowly improving, but soon you get an issue.
Proportions and anatomy.
These 2 are the most important in drawing and you better can get reference sheets about this, because my girlfriend draw together with me and she tried it on youtube.
Well... She said it is better to use reference sheets/drawing books, because you must understand how this works and youtube won't really give a proper explaination.

Quad
January 14th, 2015, 08:49 PM
a friend offered to let me have some of his references ( example of his work http://i.imgur.com/KXIvpeh.jpg )
so i'll probably look through some of those

and more in-class doodles (this one was actually requested by someone else)
http://i.imgur.com/O1yBHSO.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/y87zyqm.jpg

mirakura
January 14th, 2015, 09:07 PM
You know, if you wanna get better, it'd be best to keep sketching/drawing the parts you find hard or that you mess up on more often. Worry about the shading and colouring later. You need to get the base material right first, before jumping to another step.

Quad
January 14th, 2015, 11:01 PM
well that last one was a commission so I didn't want it to be so experimental

and I do want to practice on eyes so that's what I've been doing. I mean, I get that I need practice on some more specific things, but I'd rather make entire pictures so I can practice all of the things at once. I'm learning new techniques for coloring and stuff as I go.

Viz
January 15th, 2015, 02:39 AM
a friend offered to let me have some of his references ( example of his work http://i.imgur.com/KXIvpeh.jpg )
so i'll probably look through some of those

That aren't some good reference sheets, Quad.
You have to learn it in steps.
Like Mira said:


You know, if you wanna get better, it'd be best to keep sketching/drawing the parts you find hard or that you mess up on more often. Worry about the shading and colouring later. You need to get the base material right first, before jumping to another step.
If you don't do this 1st, you probably never can draw without the internet.
Just get some good drawing books and practice with it.

TetsuoS2
January 15th, 2015, 03:41 AM
Righto, not everyone just gets good from the get go.

Quad, force yourself to draw the basics, it helps a lot.

Quad
January 15th, 2015, 04:27 AM
i've been drawing just the basic things to practice proportions too, i'm just not posting a lot of those. also some of them have been in homework which might be awkward but i don't really care

"If you don't do this 1st, you probably never can draw without the internet."
I don't really know what you mean, 100% of what i've drawn has been with a pencil or pen. i've just changed stuff based on advice that other people here and other places have given me

"That aren't some good reference sheets, Quad."
that picture isn't the reference sheet, he has a ton of materials on how to draw that he offered to lend me. i was just posting that as a reference for some of the stuff he's drawn

http://i.imgur.com/jVsRDbv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jpEKMnn.jpg
are a couple of others

i also just noticed i have a ton of stuff like this ( http://imgur.com/gallery/juCZ2 ) to go through

TetsuoS2
January 15th, 2015, 04:58 AM
I'd be careful about doing that to some teachers, but seeing that I don't really know about them, that's up to you.

Anyway, at least you are practicing, you'll get there, just keep going at it. I'm being hypocritical, since the last time I've properly drawn anything was more than a few months.

Quad
January 15th, 2015, 05:41 AM
lol i don't think my math teacher will care, she's pretty fun.

i've not practiced body proportions much at all because i haven't looked into the guidelines for drawing them yet

Viz
January 15th, 2015, 06:04 AM
i've been drawing just the basic things to practice proportions too, i'm just not posting a lot of those. also some of them have been in homework which might be awkward but i don't really care

"If you don't do this 1st, you probably never can draw without the internet."
I don't really know what you mean, 100% of what i've drawn has been with a pencil or pen. i've just changed stuff based on advice that other people here and other places have given me

"That aren't some good reference sheets, Quad."
that picture isn't the reference sheet, he has a ton of materials on how to draw that he offered to lend me. i was just posting that as a reference for some of the stuff he's drawn

http://i.imgur.com/jVsRDbv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jpEKMnn.jpg
are a couple of others

i also just noticed i have a ton of stuff like this ( http://imgur.com/gallery/juCZ2 ) to go through
What I mean with without the internet is that in the future you must be able to draw without it.
(So, you have to do it in your head and make it on the paper.)
I was reading that gallery.
That is fine, follow it well when you can.
What sort of materials are these then?
Practice Materials or you try to draw as a copy?
Maybe I should give you 2 head tutorials from my collection that would help you.
(These Tutorials will learn you how to draw the heads in steps.)
I send them later.

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lol i don't think my math teacher will care, she's pretty fun.

i've not practiced body proportions much at all because i haven't looked into the guidelines for drawing them yet
Oooooohhhhhh...
Well, proportions and anatomy are the most important.
At least 80% of a good drawing come from Proportions and Anatomy.

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I'd be careful about doing that to some teachers, but seeing that I don't really know about them, that's up to you.

Anyway, at least you are practicing, you'll get there, just keep going at it. I'm being hypocritical, since the last time I've properly drawn anything was more than a few months.
It takes some time to come back into drawing.
My longest hiatus in drawing was over 2 years.
I couldn't draw, because of a movement.

Quad
January 15th, 2015, 06:09 AM
These are all drawn with a pencil. I color them on my computer afterwards. I'd draw a bunch on a tablet if I could, but I don't have one at the moment.
The past couple have just been from my head, not based on anything in particular

i have been drawing heads in steps, i do something like this:
http://i.imgur.com/rlWRC8r.png
circle, cross for orientation and brow line, cut sides to make it more head shaped, bottom of the nose is at the intersection of the cuts, chin and eyes are equidistant from the bottom of the nose

Viz
January 15th, 2015, 06:17 AM
Circles are not good for heads.
In good tutorials and drawing books they say that a head has more the form of an oval.

I should give them now:

http://i.imgur.com/RJSOKkW.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/zN12J4w.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/RXR8tf3.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/IAquHgo.jpg
^ How to draw from the side.

Quad
January 15th, 2015, 06:19 AM
thanks, i'll read over it before i start my next practice drawing.
but the heads don't end up circular, because i cut off the sides and expand the chin

TetsuoS2
January 15th, 2015, 06:21 AM
Yeah, circles are too perfect.

(Off-topic, sorry) @Vizor: You've blocked pm's, can't reply to your query.

Viz
January 15th, 2015, 06:26 AM
TetsuoS2, now you can.
Go ahead.

Quad, heads aren't circles indeed in the end, BUT neither at the start when you draw a head.
Use help lines for now.
Once you get it under the knee, you can remove them.

Quad
January 15th, 2015, 06:32 AM
i don't understand what you mean by "under the knee"

I've still been drawing the guide lines, i've just been erasing them for the features to fit and shading. some of them are still visible if you look at the pink haired girl closely

Viz
January 15th, 2015, 06:42 AM
i don't understand what you mean by "under the knee"
That's a dutch quote we use for: When you control it and being able to draw it right without thinking.

Quad
January 15th, 2015, 06:47 AM
ah so you mean when i've practiced enough that I can just draw it i should stop drawing the crosses?

Viz
January 15th, 2015, 06:54 AM
ah so you mean when i've practiced enough that I can just draw it i should stop drawing the crosses?

Yes, since you must erase the help lines after the drawing is done.
Otherwise it can look as a mess in the end result.

Quad
January 15th, 2015, 06:56 AM
this was my source for that way of drawing heads:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4gGEC5iCDE

Viz
January 15th, 2015, 07:02 AM
If you want to make heads based on IRL, then that's okay.
But I see that you try to draw Anime/Manga Heads.
IRL and Anime/Manga Heads are different.
Now I see why the eyes also are much different than Anime/Manga Eyes.

Quad
January 15th, 2015, 07:06 AM
The eyes? I never really had anyone tell me how to draw eyes at all, so I just do those however I feel like.
I kind of like mixing the style of IRL and manga personally. ross said that i should learn proportions first and then learn to draw in a more anime-ish style but I didn't feel like learning how to draw realistic features for faces so it just kind of turned into a weird combination

Viz
January 15th, 2015, 07:27 AM
Don't merge them.
Ross is wrong here.
Like you see you get weird results.
I will find a good tutorial for you about how to draw Anime/Manga Eyes. (Don't have 1 at the moment in my collection.)
You get it from me when I have 1.

Here is a drawing that I drew and I'm also practicing with.

http://i.imgur.com/M80vCGN.jpg Do you see the difference?

mirakura
January 15th, 2015, 12:08 PM
Using circles for the base will give them huge foreheads^


Trust me, I tried =3

Viz
January 15th, 2015, 01:49 PM
Using circles for the base will give them huge foreheads^


Trust me, I tried =3
Was this comment to me or to Quad, Mira?
Not sure, since you didn't quote.

Quad
January 15th, 2015, 01:56 PM
Seems like a general statement to me, not a response at all really. but directed at me because i'm the one using circles for heads

Viz
January 15th, 2015, 02:38 PM
I'm searching for tutorials now for you, but I can give them tomorrow.

Quad
January 15th, 2015, 04:35 PM
alright, thanks. The advice is very appreciated :)

Phearo
January 15th, 2015, 05:16 PM
Well, if it's any help, whenever I would draw heads, after I set up the cross I usually start with drawing the chin immediately. Then the rest of the head shape, the ears, and the eyes, and the rest of the facial features. I think Ross is somewhat right that you can use play around realistic proportions and merge them with anime, but then again I had more experience drawing realistic at the time I started experimenting(I looked at very few tutorials when learning, mostly just reference materials, as well with a realistic base for human proportions).

Quad
January 15th, 2015, 05:37 PM
so is this closer to the manga style you guys are talking about then?

http://i.imgur.com/fTcqeUN.jpg

Viz
January 15th, 2015, 05:49 PM
Hmmmmm, Quad.
This is already better.
1 thing: Neck is too large.
A tip for you.

Make it a little bit shorter next time.

Quad
January 15th, 2015, 05:53 PM
alright, will do.

this is the first one where the eyes are not extremely crossed

Viz
January 15th, 2015, 05:59 PM
http://i.imgur.com/ru3hclF.jpg

^ Here, the tutorial for drawing Anime/Manga Eyes.

http://i.imgur.com/7Ozxv2n.jpg

^ And here is an unexpected one.

Quad
January 15th, 2015, 06:38 PM
those drawings are like the size of the faces i've been doing. time to upscale my drawing more i guess

Quad
January 15th, 2015, 07:12 PM
here's the colored version. i'm trying to streamline my coloring process
http://i.imgur.com/QO5Gnmb.jpg

Phearo
January 15th, 2015, 08:23 PM
those drawings are like the size of the faces i've been doing. time to upscale my drawing more i guess

Nah. You don't have to upscale your drawing, considering you're using actual paper.

Quad
January 15th, 2015, 09:05 PM
I mean start drawing it bigger.

Phearo
January 15th, 2015, 10:13 PM
I realize that. That's why I said you don't need to bother.

Quad
January 16th, 2015, 03:03 AM
Do you have anything for figures, Vizorsama? I'd like to get to that sometime

Viz
January 16th, 2015, 03:09 AM
Do you have anything for figures, Vizorsama? I'd like to get to that sometime
What sort of figures?
Bodies?

Quad
January 16th, 2015, 03:13 AM
yeah, i don't know how to proportion the arms/legs/torso with each other or the face at this point.

Viz
January 16th, 2015, 03:17 AM
yeah, i don't know how to proportion the arms/legs/torso with each other or the face at this point.
Uhm...
No, I haven't 1 that is complete with the legs.
Should look for it. (Probably have it Saturday just call me Vizor.)

Funny thing is that I found yesterday tutorials for penises, breasts and butts, LOL.

Quad
January 16th, 2015, 03:26 AM
mm, i think i'll be okay without those ones. :p

it's more fun to call you sama

Viz
January 16th, 2015, 03:30 AM
Hmmmmmmm...
Ok, then...
I probably can send them in a hour.
Oh and the face is explained how to draw it in head tutorials.

Quad
January 16th, 2015, 03:44 AM
the head tutorials don't explain how to proportion the head with the rest of the body. you've already noticed I have a bit of trouble with the neck size

Viz
January 16th, 2015, 04:03 AM
Have you followed anatomy and proportion guides on youtube?
I'm learning these 2 also, but I do it from Drawing Books.

I have a couple of torsos here.

http://i.imgur.com/AjF5i4N.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/i1nyzXD.jpg

^ Now you have a couple to practice with.

SaberGreen
January 16th, 2015, 05:42 PM
From one learning artist to another, by far the easiest approach to acquiring confidence to draw is to repeatedly draw whenever you can. Find something fun to draw, but preferably, don't start with the 'anime' style. People and things around us are identified by an artist most commonly into broken down simple shapes. Dedicate an entire sketchbook to crappy doodles and things you're not as proud of and as each page turns you'll learn a strategy to draw it better and evolve from there. Not studying 'anime' faces first will allow you to learn varying profiles of faces as well as proper anatomy on the body. Just remember to never over complicate your approach and you'll reach far for sure. Artists never reach perfection, they are always on a journey to strive to better themselves. Once you've got the basics down, apply it to your anime characters. They will look leaps and bounds better.

To add onto what Vizorsama said, I since a few years back started buying a ton of art books to study from. They have really good examples to study from and the ones I buy in particular also have artists accounts on their various techniques and processes. I highly recommend starting out with a few different anatomy books and extend to other artbooks from there, so you have a good collection of resources at your disposal!

Quad
January 16th, 2015, 09:08 PM
yeah i still don't get how people draw eyes. i can't get that level of detail even with a mechanical pencil at the size i'm drawing

Quad
January 16th, 2015, 11:18 PM
i don't know the proper head:torso size ratio

http://i.imgur.com/9SmvZ52.jpg

Frostyvale
January 16th, 2015, 11:25 PM
In general keep the proportions to the point that the head can fit inside the chest.

And in general the neck should be less than 1/3 of the combined width of the torso.

Quad
January 17th, 2015, 12:54 AM
mmkay, thanks.

i'm going to pretend it was just the half-sideways angle that threw me off, and not just that i can only draw half-chibi characters.
oh and here's the colored version
http://i.imgur.com/7Rxluhg.jpg

Quad
January 17th, 2015, 10:43 PM
i've had the idea for this pun running through my head for years
http://i.imgur.com/rHYMGnn.jpg

and no i didn't goof the faces i did it intentionally kthx

VasilikiHaidee
January 18th, 2015, 12:16 PM
And once you get tired of square-line-circle guidelines..

Break them! :D

Viz
January 18th, 2015, 12:24 PM
They improve it seems.

mirakura
January 18th, 2015, 02:53 PM
yeah i still don't get how people draw eyes. i can't get that level of detail even with a mechanical pencil at the size i'm drawing
I find eyes quite easy @[email protected]

i've had the idea for this pun running through my head for years
http://i.imgur.com/rHYMGnn.jpg

and no i didn't goof the faces i did it intentionally kthx

Hilarious:neco_arc:

Viz
January 18th, 2015, 03:19 PM
I find eyes quite easy @[email protected]
That doesn't really help him, Mira.

Quad
January 18th, 2015, 07:13 PM
And once you get tired of square-line-circle guidelines..

Break them! :D
you mean the guides for drawing basic proportions and stuff?

VasilikiHaidee
January 19th, 2015, 12:29 AM
you mean the guides for drawing basic proportions and stuff?

Yup! You can't have them sticking forever... (that is at least what I think [I mean, it's annoying getting to erase every guideline in a drawing XD])

Once you get the hang on guidelines, you could try drawing without them (if you want). :)

Quad
January 19th, 2015, 05:34 AM
I find eyes quite easy @[email protected]


Hilarious:neco_arc:
cool, wanna give tips or just rub it in?

Viz
January 19th, 2015, 11:49 AM
Yup! You can't have them sticking forever... (that is at least what I think [I mean, it's annoying getting to erase every guideline in a drawing XD])

Once you get the hang on guidelines, you could try drawing without them (if you want). :)

Kinda true, but for now it's better that he follow them.
I'm following them only if find a difficult part that I need to improve.
Otherwise I won't use it so quickly.

VasilikiHaidee
January 19th, 2015, 12:11 PM
Kinda true, but for now it's better that he follow them.
I'm following them only if find a difficult part that I need to improve.
Otherwise I won't use it so quickly.

Yes.

When in complete doubt, back to basics! :D

mirakura
January 19th, 2015, 06:50 PM
cool, wanna give tips or just rub it in?
Hehe :P

Well, a link for eyes (http://www.dragoart.com/eyes-c301-1.htm)

Quad
January 20th, 2015, 01:07 AM
i was practicing doing an actual body
http://i.imgur.com/0RNAJ5J.jpg

Quad
January 21st, 2015, 11:13 PM
I drew a nice landscape but the image is over 150mb so i can't upload it anywhere.

this is what happens when i mess with my scanner settings

Quad
January 25th, 2015, 05:47 AM
oh, here's the one with the landscape, at super low resolution
https://scontent-a-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/q83/s720x720/10570340_10205719869096949_2287592297862837134_n.j pg?oh=06b8a1998113d57947c362157a2d3b64&oe=552AD005

i'm still drawing stuff btw, it's just that it's mostly practicing proper lines and stuff so nothing to really ask for tips on

mirakura
January 25th, 2015, 11:18 AM
What's going through the middle of her hair?

Viz
January 25th, 2015, 11:31 AM
That drawing looks like that the girls head is going to split in 2 pieces.

Quad
January 25th, 2015, 02:52 PM
she has a lock of hair from the back of her head pulled up and pinned to the top of her head
the round thing is a hairclip

Quad
January 26th, 2015, 06:11 AM
i'll upload another in a few hours, i think you'll approve of my improvement

EDIT:
Ok, here it is
http://i.imgur.com/mBOhQiX.png

Quad
January 26th, 2015, 06:20 PM
and colored
http://i.imgur.com/bvRFHzs.png

Viz
January 27th, 2015, 10:38 AM
That is an improvement, Quad.
Well done.
Keep going, you sure will improve more and more.

Quad
January 27th, 2015, 08:54 PM
trying something kind of different
http://i.imgur.com/oRqtG5J.jpg

Quad
January 28th, 2015, 06:37 PM
So.. Hands are kind of an issue now. And feet I guess
http://i.imgur.com/o0OuWn5.jpg

Quad
January 31st, 2015, 04:27 AM
i don't have my scanner atm but here's this while you wait for me to upload things that i actually put some effort into
http://i.imgur.com/bh8TXxs.png

Viz
January 31st, 2015, 04:31 AM
So.. Hands are kind of an issue now. And feet I guess
http://i.imgur.com/o0OuWn5.jpg
The bane of all artists, so these 2 can be forgiven sometimes if you draw them wrong.

Quad
January 31st, 2015, 04:40 AM
that sakura up there was done with colored pencils but bad lighting and photo quality are kind of a pain

Quad
January 31st, 2015, 05:43 AM
here have a fast rin portrait
i don't think i had the right colored pencil for this *shrug*
http://i.imgur.com/s0D1zJd.png

Quad
February 1st, 2015, 01:29 AM
here's a young saber
http://i.imgur.com/8BPZyWp.png
edit i did more to this but i'd rather scan it than just take another bad picture so you'll have to wait until tomorrow

Viz
February 1st, 2015, 02:20 AM
Well, well, well.
Quad, now you're improving pretty much.

Quad
February 2nd, 2015, 02:10 AM
Okay this post is going to be really big so spoilertagging all of it

Better version of that saber:
http://i.imgur.com/XqErrIf.jpg

Random sketch of Illya (practicing different shaped faces, oops.)
http://i.imgur.com/cZYIpSS.jpg

Testing proportion (started off with a ton of ellipses)
http://i.imgur.com/xnP6hIC.jpg

Bad Rin sketch
http://i.imgur.com/f7kdWVd.png

Better Rin sketch, colored with pencils
http://i.imgur.com/rhaeLya.jpg

Mediocre Sakura sketch, colored with pencils
http://i.imgur.com/YJQjG1f.jpg

Random hatch-shading test
http://i.imgur.com/dFCoYH3.png

And Lua from Baccano.
http://i.imgur.com/CGbJWA6.jpg


I need to stop using ruled paper for these, seriously.

Quad
February 3rd, 2015, 03:03 AM
practicing proportions
http://i.imgur.com/gkt9gWp.jpg

Quad
February 3rd, 2015, 05:37 PM
FATE ENKIDU SUCKS, MINE'S BETTER
http://i.imgur.com/iQO9Zu5.jpg

Viz
February 3rd, 2015, 05:50 PM
LOL, did you use Atalanta as base for that OC Male Atalanta like Endiku?

Quad
February 3rd, 2015, 09:47 PM
no, this was original. I was in class. I wasn't allowed to have a reference up

what's atalanta?

Huitante
February 3rd, 2015, 09:55 PM
One of Fate/Apocrypha Archers. A catgirl.

Quad
February 3rd, 2015, 10:02 PM
One of Fate/Apocrypha Archers. A catgirl.
Oh, I see. Nah, I was just using the description in the Epic of Gilgamesh for this.

Enkidu made she, a warrior, (as he were) born (and) begotten,
(Yea), of Ninurta the double, [and put forth] the whole of his body
Hair: in the way of a woman he snooded his locks (in a fillet);
Sprouted luxuriant growth of his hair-like (the awns of) the barley,
Nor knew he people nor land; he was clad in a garb like Sumuqan.

​obviously the cat ears were artistic interpretation

mirakura
February 4th, 2015, 01:04 PM
You should try taking this step by step :P


Instead of drawing the full body, start with the torso. Once you've perfected that, go on the the arms, then the legs.

Fingers are a pain. They shouldn't exist:illya:

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Then re-draw it, but start with the head.

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no, this was original. I was in class. I wasn't allowed to have a reference up

what's atalanta?
This is almost the greatest sin @[email protected]

Viz
February 4th, 2015, 01:12 PM
You should try taking this step by step :P


Instead of drawing the full body, start with the torso. Once you've perfected that, go on the the arms, then the legs.

Fingers are a pain. They shouldn't exist:illya:

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Then re-draw it, but start with the head.
Always start with the head indeed.
Quad, the basics are what Mira does state here.
Not only that, but once the proportions are fine, you have possibly the anatomy also right.

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This is Atalanta.

http://i.imgur.com/UpA46oN.jpg

mirakura
February 4th, 2015, 01:18 PM
Beast mode. Should've put her normally:illya:

Quad
February 4th, 2015, 01:38 PM
I haven't read Apocrypha yet because last I heard it wasn't fully translated.

I start all of my drawings with the head, and for these poses I've basically just been drawing more heads inside them to figure out the proportions. Is that wrong?

Viz
February 4th, 2015, 02:23 PM
Beast mode. Should've put her normally:illya:
No, Beast mode too sexy to ignore.

Quad
February 4th, 2015, 02:29 PM
honestly i like this one better
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/typemoon/images/6/61/Archer_of_red.png/revision/latest?cb=20130817133909

cute things > hypersexualized things i guess

Viz
February 4th, 2015, 02:37 PM
Sure, the normal mode Atalanta is also good.
But the beast mode give to edge to me.

mirakura
February 4th, 2015, 04:17 PM
I like both becasue they're both in my taste


Wild = Cute


And leveled. I hope I'm not the only one who thinks she looks tsundere in the on Quad posted:illya:

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I haven't read Apocrypha yet because last I heard it wasn't fully translated.

I start all of my drawings with the head, and for these poses I've basically just been drawing more heads inside them to figure out the proportions. Is that wrong?

Should draw less heads. You've pretty much figured it out. Once you draw the base of the head, begin to draw the body. Once you have a rough sketch, you can start editing it.

Quad
February 4th, 2015, 05:18 PM
No, I mean that's the way I construct a figure. I draw the head, and since the head is the measurement (7 heads tall or whatever) I just draw more to measure.
http://i.imgur.com/sUlbJ5p.png

mirakura
February 4th, 2015, 05:43 PM
See, that's the bad thing. It's good to know the height and all, but there's no point i you aren't doing the body parts properly. Like I said; Start with the torso:

http://i.imgur.com/zMLGQB3.jpg

It's literally just a rectangle with a few arcs(curves).

Then I move on the the shoulders....to the arms....e.t.c
Do it step by step. Try to perfect one body part before the other, or it will end in a mess ;)

Quad
February 4th, 2015, 06:05 PM
most people seem to suggest drawing some kind of skeleton first. if i just draw a rectangle like that then i don't know how drastic to make all the curves and stuff

am i doing this right?
http://i.imgur.com/e7ZRmtH.png

mirakura
February 4th, 2015, 06:27 PM
It's actually relatively easy. The best way to look at a body is in shapes. The head is basically an oval, the torso is a rectangle. The arms are curved cylinders...e.t.c Ofc, the body is defined in different ways. You don't have to use my observation =3


Who told you to draw a skeleton? Well yeah, a skeleton is good as a guide but it doesn't look like it's working for ya.

Heres a link: http://www.dragoart.com (http://www.dragoart.com/tuts/21550/1/1/how-to-draw-an-anime-girl-body.htm)

It's dragoart, and it helps you learn how to draw most things quite easily. You just have to click an option on the right hand side.

Like I said, just try drawing shapes first. Not with sharp edges, but curved.

Quad
February 4th, 2015, 07:35 PM
my figures get kind of simplified to something like this
http://i.imgur.com/PjVyGKP.png

mirakura
February 4th, 2015, 07:41 PM
That's getting better, but try to clean the edges a bit.

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Aren't you using a pencil?

Quad
February 4th, 2015, 07:45 PM
yeah, my pencil needed very badly to be sharpened.
This better?
http://i.imgur.com/EBfithU.png

mirakura
February 4th, 2015, 07:51 PM
Marginally better :D

It would be best if you used a sharper pencil. It makes it far more easier to draw. Also, don't press too hard, or the lines will be too thick, and it won't look nice. Try to do it smoothly and gently, if you can ^

Quad
February 5th, 2015, 04:44 AM
so as a guide does this seem about right?
http://i.imgur.com/GIOCmdl.png

it's a bit short for males but I think it kind of works. and it looks okay for females
male lines:
http://i.imgur.com/43u26cE.png

female lines:
http://i.imgur.com/bpi979j.png

i know quality is bad because i did this on a laptop with a touchpad in just a few minutes on paint.net

mirakura
February 5th, 2015, 12:08 PM
That's fine, but it looks too small, and stubby. A normal person is much more streamlined, and less robotic :p Try the link I suggested ;)

Viz
February 5th, 2015, 12:14 PM
Dragoart is a good source, but I also should look on Deviantart if I were you, Quad.

Quad
February 5th, 2015, 01:15 PM
That's fine, but it looks too small, and stubby. A normal person is much more streamlined, and less robotic :p Try the link I suggested ;)
Your link didn't have a posable puppet in it. this is based off of what was in there and what i managed to find on deviantart.

I can easily stretch it taller if i need to, btw

Viz
February 5th, 2015, 02:28 PM
Deviantart has many many more tutorials, but there is an issue if you don't have an account there.
And that is the Mature Content Images.

mirakura
February 5th, 2015, 03:36 PM
Your link didn't have a posable puppet in it. this is based off of what was in there and what i managed to find on deviantart.

I can easily stretch it taller if i need to, btw

Umm, did you go around the website? There are many....



Wel, thats good then.

Quad
February 5th, 2015, 04:53 PM
most of them looked pretty much the same.

i made my puppet based on this

http://th03.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2013/336/9/e/learn_manga__create_your_world___cc_proportions_by _naschi-d6whyox.jpg

So I guess I did make the legs like way too short

Viz
February 5th, 2015, 05:00 PM
Ah, Naschi.
Seems you like his tutorials too.

Phearo
February 5th, 2015, 05:31 PM
Good progress, but next time try to not worry about making sharp angles when drawing arms. Right now it looks like a somewhat floppy appendage. If it helps try imaging the forearm being a stretched-out triangle, and smoothing that out.

Quad
February 5th, 2015, 05:36 PM
http://i.imgur.com/Ttjizqx.png

seems like a better puppet to use

Phearo
February 5th, 2015, 05:42 PM
http://i.imgur.com/Ttjizqx.png

seems like a better puppet to use

That's alot more complicated to apply in reality. Just a heads up.

Quad
February 5th, 2015, 07:03 PM
more bad camera quality, but how's this?
I mean I get that it's 4 heads tall but aside from that.
http://i.imgur.com/W6G0R3l.png

Viz
February 5th, 2015, 07:12 PM
Already better.
But Quad, there aren't any signs of hands.

Quad
February 5th, 2015, 07:22 PM
yeah, I haven't gotten to the hands yet. I was waiting to see if you guys think i should change the arms at all.

also, small hands are hard to draw.
I'd need to be smaller than the one on the left here
http://i.imgur.com/jntkKvh.png

Quad
February 6th, 2015, 12:17 AM
Finished and scanned!
I think I want to color this one
http://i.imgur.com/2IuLV8B.png

Quad
February 6th, 2015, 12:47 AM
aw yeah
http://i.imgur.com/amuXPuG.png

mirakura
February 6th, 2015, 03:37 AM
aw yeah
http://i.imgur.com/amuXPuG.png
I actually really like this :P

It would be better if you made the sizes of the hands and legs more even tho.

Quad
February 6th, 2015, 03:43 AM
that was an attempt at foreshortening. The hands are actually about equal distance from the camera and the left foot is behind the right.

also the hands/feet are supposed to look like paws, but i don't think that worked too well

mirakura
February 6th, 2015, 03:48 AM
Oh, no, that's fine :P

It's that the hands are rather flat, and her shin is bent the wrong way:ciel:

Viz
February 6th, 2015, 04:09 AM
What I notice is that your drawings are getting more and more detailed, Quad.
After proportions come anatomy. (The bane of Artists.)

Quad
February 6th, 2015, 04:19 AM
Shin bent the wrong way? How's it supposed to bend?
this is why I'm drawing stuff like this, 'cuz I honestly don't know

EDIT:
oh, I think I kind of see. It should be more like this, right?

http://i.imgur.com/FrAQTN1.png
and now i notice that i totally left the calf out of that picture but oh well

Viz
February 6th, 2015, 04:41 AM
Well, an improvement already for you Quad would the left arm.
It's too thin and must be a bit thicker.
The length is fine.
Also the right elbow looks weird.
I would say look in the mirror and make that pose of your drawing.
You will see what I mean here.

Quad
February 6th, 2015, 04:52 AM
most of that was just failed perspective, but part of the elbow was lost while i was drawing the dress. you can see how it was before in one of my earlier pictures.

posing in the mirror doesn't help a whole lot because my arms are way more masculine

Viz
February 6th, 2015, 04:59 AM
Quad, the elbow pose doesn't really matter with your muscles.
All in all you're improving now. :D

Quad
February 10th, 2015, 12:32 AM
http://i.imgur.com/pXCnmFJ.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/n5saq7Z.jpg

mirakura
February 10th, 2015, 03:20 AM
Big improvement :DDD

I love this, ALOT. CARRY ON.

Viz
February 10th, 2015, 11:15 AM
http://i.imgur.com/pXCnmFJ.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/n5saq7Z.jpg
Not bad, you're getting better, Quad.
Also it seems you get the shading right too.

Quad
February 10th, 2015, 11:25 PM
i wasn't done!
http://i.imgur.com/8d1Mlxy.png
I promise I'll be less lazy coloring once I get myself a tablet. This stuff takes too long without

Quad
February 12th, 2015, 03:06 AM
fingerpainting
http://i.imgur.com/UT9nxo0.png

i did that on sai with my laptop's touchscreen. ew

Quad
February 13th, 2015, 01:29 AM
no new scans, take this mediocre photo of my first real attempt at an original male
http://i.imgur.com/hzJdafF.png

and in other news i'm ordering a tablet which should be here by next week :D

Viz
February 13th, 2015, 01:49 AM
I can't judge then, because I'm on vacation next week.

Quad
February 16th, 2015, 09:20 PM
Not entirely sure what I was doing with this pose. Her left leg is definitely supposed to be a lot farther behind and her right is in front. Other than that I don't know because she ended up just looking short and awkward

http://i.imgur.com/WQQ7cHP.jpg

This is one of the first things I'm going to paint over once my tablet gets here

Quad
February 17th, 2015, 12:29 AM
also here's another of that miko from earlier

http://i.imgur.com/DE7re26.jpg

Quad
February 18th, 2015, 08:49 PM
This one's kind of different from the ones I've done before
http://i.imgur.com/1dXwe7n.jpg http://i.imgur.com/4tVWhkf.png

- - - Updated - - -

I also have this practice for perspective, I don't know how to get the roofs to line up. Am I supposed to use a third point for that?
http://i.imgur.com/j4PHMLL.png

Quad
February 20th, 2015, 10:11 PM
nothing new to post right now but my tablet has arrived and i'm learning how to use it

edit:
here's my first half-decent sketch with a tablet, which took me way longer than it should have
http://i.imgur.com/eFRn23y.png

Quad
February 22nd, 2015, 05:07 PM
COLORING SKETCH WITH WACOM TABLET- ROUND 1
http://i.imgur.com/GZMzSts.png

Quad
February 24th, 2015, 04:18 AM
i'm pretty happy with the way this turned out
http://i.imgur.com/iXJU07e.png

This one was traced but I guess I did a good job with the colors apparently
kinda lame that i left some spots uncolored but meh
http://i.imgur.com/2jKz3ph.jpg

Quad
February 26th, 2015, 09:56 PM
this one NOT traced. I'm pretty happy with it
http://i.imgur.com/iyV6oXp.png

Viz
February 27th, 2015, 02:13 AM
That is getting better.
It's an improvement.

Viz
February 27th, 2015, 04:29 PM
Hey, Quad.
What do you think of this?:

http://i.imgur.com/rtsBnkk.jpg

^^^^^ I fix the right arm a little tomorrow. ^^^^^

Quad
February 27th, 2015, 07:18 PM
not sure, It's kind of confusing without color but it looks really good

Viz
February 27th, 2015, 07:30 PM
I will ink it after the fix.
And finish the shading.

Quad
February 27th, 2015, 08:09 PM
everything on the left side looks great but i have no idea what's going on past her waist.
Oh and the bottom two claws on her left hand look kind of weird compared to the rest of them, like most have fingers and claws but those are just claws

Viz
February 27th, 2015, 08:19 PM
everything on the left side looks great but i have no idea what's going on past her waist.
Oh and the bottom two claws on her left hand look kind of weird compared to the rest of them, like most have fingers and claws but those are just claws
Atalanta in Feral Mode have claws.
Maybe I would color her, but that is a maybe.
Otherwise I would do it soon.

Quad
February 28th, 2015, 07:59 PM
I upgraded it so I could use it as an avatar
http://i.imgur.com/OTiLrgS.png

Quad
March 1st, 2015, 01:30 AM
Okay, done for real now.
http://i.imgur.com/3fkVgl3.png
Bad background is bad but meh

Quad
March 2nd, 2015, 02:46 AM
http://i.imgur.com/y6ndKeW.png http://i.imgur.com/TTjgsMo.png

I'm dumb lol

Quad
March 3rd, 2015, 02:14 AM
archer's armor is a pain to draw. I'm giving up on this drawing here
http://i.imgur.com/cjCVEUy.png