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Cremela
December 17th, 2015, 08:02 PM
Does Harry know how to do a Patronus yet? If so, what is it? Could provide some clue to his animagus form if it's not hereditary...

Cremela
December 17th, 2015, 08:17 PM
Also, if people already know about Harry's ofuda, having an unregistered skill as an animagus could be an invaluable wild card, however as we've see rom Rita Skeeter, it could also end badly...

Caster
December 17th, 2015, 08:18 PM
Harry is Fire/Wind if I recall right. And who is teaching Harry elemental ofuda or animagus potential? I'd kind of like to know more about what the animagus training might do. I'd like to see Harry unlock his inhuman potential personally.

Abendroth
December 17th, 2015, 08:18 PM
I am forced to compliment you on the depth of your world building. I may actually have to concede that I'm wrong (on the Internet!). Before that, however, there are couple of points I wish to address.



Depending how power is calculated. I imagine magical power can be trained and improved through life, on top of whatever innate potential one has, so someone roughly the same power level, up to about 1.5x to 2x perhaps might work (accounting for soul * wand amplification). Keep in mind Voldemort was pretty much acknowledged as the most powerful Wizard in Magical Britain, with raw power surpassing even Albus Dumbledore, the so-called savior of Europe and defeater of Grindelwald. For a child to take his Killing Curse and survive is pretty much nothing short of a miracle to them.
It could also offer a flat boost. If the wizards come in a power range from 10 to 50 and the spell gives a +50, that would keep its universally lethal for wizards while preventing powerful wizards from abusing the power multiplier effect.






Your escort was the apprentice of one of the oldest and most powerful youkai at Mahoutokoro, and Shinji bore the blessing of that selfsame fox, thanks to delivering the last scion of the Fujou to him. Without that blessing, the journey would have been far more troublesome and probably not worth undertaking. And in the end, when you acquired a familiar, it was one that was actually very suitable for Shinji, formed of a great tree's curiosity about the West. Had he recieved something else, like a tengu or kitsune, he probably would not have been able to achieve the skill.
While I am sure that traditional practitioners of fusion magic would have made sure that young(or adult) wizards looking for familiars had the most capable escort possible, likely a fully trained fusion wizard, I have no way to measure what effect the blessing had. I will go ahead and concede this point.




Nasu rather explicitly says Shinji would be a genius in any area he chose to undertake, aside from magecraft.

That, and winning holy grail wars. He kinda sucks at that. But all right, I'll accept that we're not a valid reference. Even if it takes other people a year or two to match what we manage in our free time it would still probably be worth it.






*snip*
There are other considerations at work as well, of course. Consider having the power to raise and shape Hogwarts - as is - from the earth and imbue it with magic in one go. Consider, if you are water aligned, probably being able to heal others instinctively, without complicated healing spells or potions. Consider the massive resistance one gained against other spells - including things like the Imperius, and if you can be immune to that spell, yet cast it, well...


While there are few items I take issue with, particularly how loyalty seems to work, it's nothing that I can't live with, especially for something that is deep background. More importantly, it occurs to me that we have drifted rather off topic. My initial thesis was " fusion is too useful to have died out due to being a hassle." Your response has been that " actually, fusion died out due to a colossal pan-European effort to suppress its existence." Which, OK, would do a much better job. It even has a sort of historical precedent in the Crisis of 1200 BC, where the invention of the javelin enabled the enslaved populations to compete more effectively against their chariot riding masters, resulting in a series of slave revolts across Europe that burned 40 of the 42 largest cities to the ground and deliberately destroyed all writing and buildings. The question then becomes why we were told it became unpopular due to its difficulty? Even if the practice had been in decline for some time, that doesn't compare to the sudden stop at the end. Was Sion ignorant, did the backstory change between then and now, or does she just have terrible communication skills?








On a separate note, I recall that Arthur was forced to give up the deed to the Burrow. As there is such a great focus on accountability and prevention of corruption if will no doubt be processed through the usual bureaucracies and then sold at auction as such properties are. The twins happen to have recently come into a rather large amount of money...

Malgos
December 17th, 2015, 08:38 PM
Was Sion ignorant, did the backstory change between then and now, or does she just have terrible communication skills?

It's Sion so that's pretty much a given. That being said over the course of the story it's very likely that she improved on that, but she probably still needs to work on them.

alfheimwanderer
December 17th, 2015, 08:51 PM
Does Harry know how to do a Patronus yet? If so, what is it? Could provide some clue to his animagus form if it's not hereditary...

Harry does not, in fact, know how to do a Patronus yet. He could probably learn, but its not the easiest spell to master. And no, the animagus form you gain is not hereditary.


Harry is Fire/Wind if I recall right. And who is teaching Harry elemental ofuda or animagus potential? I'd kind of like to know more about what the animagus training might do. I'd like to see Harry unlock his inhuman potential personally.

Yes. Harry is Fire/wind. You are not aware of who would be teaching him elemental ofuda, and the animagus process involves more a guide tan a teacher directly.


I am forced to compliment you on the depth of your world building.

Thank you.


It could also offer a flat boost. If the wizards come in a power range from 10 to 50 and the spell gives a +50, that would keep its universally lethal for wizards while preventing powerful wizards from abusing the power multiplier effect.

That is also a possibility.


That, and winning holy grail wars. He kinda sucks at that. But all right, I'll accept that we're not a valid reference. Even if it takes other people a year or two to match what we manage in our free time it would still probably be worth it.

Quite possibly, if it a society that actually thought of itself as under threat these days. In one where most people don't even bother learning a proper shield spell, despite that not exactly being the pinnacle of difficulty...?


The question then becomes why we were told it became unpopular due to its difficulty? Even if the practice had been in decline for some time, that doesn't compare to the sudden stop at the end. Was Sion ignorant, did the backstory change between then and now, or does she just have terrible communication skills?

Keep in mind there were never that many fusion users to begin with, and that Atlas, being both reclusive and not really much of a participant in the Association / Church War (mostly because its usually a bad idea to attack the people with the nukes), didn't interact much with them. And when Sion talks about practitioners having access to Regression to the Age of Gods and such, she's hypothesizing based on what Shinji has told her, and what some of her observations have been.

If you're talking about Zelkova's observations on the development of "false echoes" and such, he's extrapolating from Mahoutokoro and the situation there. Even in a place where fusion is well-regarded, it is still not the easiest thing to achieve, and so more recently, many practitioners have trained with wands first.


On a separate note, I recall that Arthur was forced to give up the deed to the Burrow. As there is such a great focus on accountability and prevention of corruption if will no doubt be processed through the usual bureaucracies and then sold at auction as such properties are. The twins happen to have recently come into a rather large amount of money...

If the Burrow is being left intact, then yes, they could buy it back.

Cremela
December 17th, 2015, 09:44 PM
Is Fire/wind the same as Pandora... obvs Harry doesn't have the same mind set as Luna, but is there potential there? Or do magical beings only deign to fuse with special people like Luna or people who have proved themself worthy to another, like Shinji?

Nephirin
December 17th, 2015, 09:52 PM
[x] Elemental Ofuda

alfheimwanderer
December 17th, 2015, 09:53 PM
Is Fire/wind the same as Pandora... obvs Harry doesn't have the same mind set as Luna, but is there potential there? Or do magical beings only deign to fuse with special people like Luna or people who have proved themselves worthy to another, like Shinji?

Pandora is fire/wind, yes. But keep in mind that Harry is not there to seek out a familiar - (he already has Hedwig, remember?), nor under the circumstances, does he have the time to go on such a journey (or the bonuses Luna and Shinji did last year). Fusion is not out of the realm of possibility, but not all familiars are capable of it, nor all wizards.

For instance, even though the twins are seeking familiars, they probably will not be unlocking fusion anytime soon, if at all.

Cremela
December 17th, 2015, 10:06 PM
Oh no, just something I thought of, as Harry's particular elements were mentioned! Was just wondering about the possibility of him during with Pandora to learn or in an emergency without his going on a journey...

Animagus is very tempting, but I think the sensible option is [x] Elemental Ofuda, esp. as Harry has opposite elements to Shinji

Edit: vote changed

All That Is Left Unsaid
December 17th, 2015, 10:17 PM
[x] Unlocking Elemental Ofuda

I'm curious Alf, are there any particular sources you would recommend that list the various types of youkai?

alfheimwanderer
December 17th, 2015, 10:17 PM
Oh no, just something I thought of, as Harry's particular elements were mentioned! Was just wondering about the possibility of him during with Pandora to learn or in an emergency without his going on a journey...

You're probably not seeing emergency fusion - it does require a level of trust and communication beforehand, which is why it tends to be with a person's familiar - though outside is possible. Harry doesn't spend enough time around Pandora to make that happen.

Skull Leader
December 17th, 2015, 10:17 PM
So we have the Twins convinced to power up with getting their own cool familiars by us showcasing fusion to them, and there are not likely to gain the thing they wanted. Nice. One favor wasted by them for the most part. At least they get to see Japan now.

alfheimwanderer
December 17th, 2015, 10:25 PM
I'm curious Alf, are there any particular sources you would recommend that list the various types of youkai?

Yokai.com (http://yokai.com/) is a nice intro to youkai.


So we have the Twins convinced to power up with getting their own cool familiars by us showcasing fusion to them, and there are not likely to gain the thing they wanted. Nice. One favor wasted by them for the most part. At least they get to see Japan now.

As explained, it highly depends on the familiars one gains, elemental and mindset compatibility and a number of other factors. A kamaitachi ("sickle weasel"), for instance, would be good as an independent combat and reconnaissance familiar due to its sheer speed and ability to conceal itself, but its not necessarily the most intelligent or powerful familiar possible. Also keep in mind that unlike Shinji, they also won't have access to the Room of Requirement or Founder's Tower to train next year, given that they're going to be at Durmstrang, so no private place to work on that skill, and further have not practiced anything in terms of elemental magic.

Mattias
December 17th, 2015, 10:27 PM
[x] Animagus. It would be a graet idea to have another lesser to unknown form with which to sneak around in. No one ever suspects the butterfly...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ_Pfuj9wPE

Skull Leader
December 17th, 2015, 10:29 PM
I am sorry Alf. You don't have to defend against my statement. I understand your reasoning and I like it. I was just finding it funny because in a way its a large prank back at the twins.

Cremela
December 17th, 2015, 10:45 PM
So do you need to practice elemental magic to do fusion? Or is it so the faeces don't impact the oscillating cooling device when using elemental magic during fusion form? I would have thought a Tanuki would fit the twins trickster mindset quite well, but if they have differing elements...

Caster
December 17th, 2015, 10:46 PM
I would like to ensure that the familiars they obtain are fusion-capable, even if it takes a bit for the twins to reach that.

Abendroth
December 17th, 2015, 10:49 PM
Does Animagus offer any less obvious benefits? It seems rather lackluster compared to the others. Unless he turns into a dragon or something.

alfheimwanderer
December 17th, 2015, 11:32 PM
So do you need to practice elemental magic to do fusion? Or is it so the faeces don't impact the oscillating cooling device when using elemental magic during fusion form? I would have thought a Tanuki would fit the twins trickster mindset quite well, but if they have differing elements...

Well, you don't need to, but for those who lack a mindset already suitable for fusion, developing your elemental affinities and learning to shape elemental magic can help cultivate the mindset required, making the process of fusion easier (for those with compatible elements). Its also useful to help them understand what it will be like to control such magic while in fusion, so if you have a yin-aligned water affinity, for instance, the excrement does not, in fact, hit the Aperture Science Rotational Air Movement Device.

Being able to use elemental magic (or yin or yang infusion) also tends to attract the attention of spirits who have some affinity with those particular elements or such.


Does Animagus offer any less obvious benefits? It seems rather lackluster compared to the others. Unless he turns into a dragon or something.

Because of the partial reversion which it allows, it does render you immune to things like the effect of a werewolf's bite, or such. Tapping into that hidden aspect of the self may also help with further tapping the inhuman heritage later on - if you have an opportunity to do so - or developing a new mindset.

That aside, innate and instinctive communication with animals is an inherent bonus of attaining animal form, and becoming an Animagus boosts your transfiguration abilities.

Cremela
December 17th, 2015, 11:42 PM
Hmmm.... is that all animals or just the same species as your animagus form? Will Harry definitely attain his animagus form this summer if we choose to pursue it?

Abendroth
December 17th, 2015, 11:42 PM
Because of the partial reversion which it allows, it does render you immune to things like the effect of a werewolf's bite, or such. Tapping into that hidden aspect of the self may also help with further tapping the inhuman heritage later on - if you have an opportunity to do so - or developing a new mindset.

That aside, innate and instinctive communication with animals is an inherent bonus of attaining animal form, and becoming an Animagus boosts your transfiguration abilities.
Transfiguration is a powerful branch of magic, and one we suck at. The Twins are best at Charms, I think, and Luna is probably stronger there too. If Harry wants a unique niche, Tranfiguration may be it. It will also be useful against people with high magic resistance, where our charm-heavy lineup would be at a disadvantage.

Add a bonus to "tapping inhuman mindset" which will probably come up later, so it has extra long-term growth and it looks good. Especially since he'll never be as good with air as fusion-Luna.

[x] Becoming an Animagus

Cremela
December 17th, 2015, 11:43 PM
And will his VoldeShard affect things? .

alfheimwanderer
December 17th, 2015, 11:44 PM
Hmmm.... is that all animals or just the same species as your animagus form? Will Harry definitely attain his animagus form this summer if we choose to pursue it?

In canon, Sirius seemed to be able to communicate with Crookshanks, Hermione's cat. And the Marauders seemed to be able to communicate with each other and Lupin in wolf form.

And if he goes for it, he will likely get it either this summer or in the fall.


And will his VoldeShard affect things? .

That died in book 1.


Transfiguration is a powerful branch of magic, and one we suck at. The Twins are best at Charms, I think, and Luna is probably stronger there too. If Harry wants a unique niche, Tranfiguration may be it. It will also be useful against people with high magic resistance, where our charm-heavy lineup would be at a disadvantage.

Twins are fairly well rounded, though they do quite well with Transfiguration (notice their use of Draconifors on a fairly regular basis here) and Runes. Luna is more charm-heavy, with yang to boost the physical effectiveness of her magic. Hillard is charm focused, particularly on those covered under DADA. Shinji, as he is currently built, excels at charms and is...not nearly as good with Transfiguration.

gesalt
December 17th, 2015, 11:48 PM
[X] Dark Arts

Cremela
December 17th, 2015, 11:51 PM
That died in book 1.
Oh yeah... d'oh

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[x] Animagus for Abendroth's reasons

Nanao-kun
December 18th, 2015, 01:41 AM
I think I'll go with Animagus.

[X] Animagus

Veldril
December 18th, 2015, 11:10 AM
[x]Elemental Ofuda

Rival + someone Shinji can study with might be good.

mAc Chaos
December 18th, 2015, 11:13 AM
Someone said Tomas is a bad influence.

What bad influence has he leveraged so far?

alfheimwanderer
December 18th, 2015, 12:14 PM
On a different note, Durmstrang is going to be a very different place for our cast, given that it is in fact above the Arctic Circle, and is also rather smaller than Hogwarts.

In addition, there is no equivalent of the Forbidden Forest, given the climes, just the Arctic wastes, and mountains in which trolls are known to dwell. Learning the warming charm or wearing clothes enchanted to keep people at a comfortable temperature is required, and fires are only lit for magical purposes.

As a further precaution, very few visitors are generally permitted, with those who are, required to submit to memory charms to erase the location of the school from their minds.

Very good for duelling and the Dark Arts though.

Cremela
December 18th, 2015, 02:07 PM
As a further precaution, very few visitors are generally permitted, with those who are, required to submit to memory charms to erase the location of the school from their minds.

Will this include the Triwizard delegates?

alfheimwanderer
December 18th, 2015, 02:29 PM
Will this include the Triwizard delegates?

After the competition. They will remember their experiences and the setting, but not the Geospatial location of the school, preventing them from apparating to it or creating Portkeys to it. Some of this depends on how they arrive.

Tech permitting, I will be on the #fatehg IRC Channel to discuss things (IRCHighway)

alfheimwanderer
December 18th, 2015, 09:04 PM
Current tally (just to make counting easier for me later):

[5] Animagus
[7] Elemental Ofuda
[3] Advanced Dark Arts

Cremela
December 18th, 2015, 09:26 PM
C'mon guys, if this wasn't a hint as to how things will go down, what is?

Because of the partial reversion which it allows, it does render you immune to things like the effect of a werewolf's bite, or such.
Harry's gonna get an animal form either way; he might as well be able to control it :p


Tapping into that hidden aspect of the self may also help with further tapping the inhuman heritage later on - if you have an opportunity to do so - or developing a new mindset.
And don't we want to make Harry our inhuman guinea pig when working out stuff about the inhuman aspects of the wizarding world's heritage?

Caster
December 18th, 2015, 10:08 PM
Not sure if I voted or not, but I'll toss in for Animagus.

saki
December 18th, 2015, 10:40 PM
Im changing elemental to animagus

gesalt
December 18th, 2015, 10:55 PM
changing dark arts to animagus

EnigmaticFellow
December 18th, 2015, 11:28 PM
[X] Elemental Ofuda

mr_Trickster
December 19th, 2015, 05:50 AM
Gonna go for [x] - Animagus here as well.Can't really get on the forum as much as I'm on a visit to my hometown, so I missed a lot of the post-story discussion. >.<

alfheimwanderer
December 19th, 2015, 11:56 AM
I suppose Harry will focus on mastering one of the less explored areas of the wizarding world, [x] becoming an Jedi Animagus like his father before him.

100%

But what about the Twins? As they are neither Hogwarts Potions Champion, nor Second, they do not have to spend time on potions this summer, and are quite excited to be in a different country for the first time. Theyl'l be spending some time playing Tourist, exploring Kyoto and Mahoutokoro and seeing the sights at Festival time, as well as tutoring a couple of Japanese redheads in English, but what should they do to advance their own study of the arcane? (choose 2 for each twin)

[ ] Become an Animagus
[ ] Learn about Youkai Communities
[ ] Refine their duelling technique with students of Mahoutokoro
[ ] Study Occlumency
[ ] Browse the stores and see if anything strikes their fancy
[ ] Work on Potions with Harry

Caster
December 19th, 2015, 11:59 AM
Harry is becoming a Jedi?

For both of them I vote Youkai and Browsing.

skulkidcachi90
December 19th, 2015, 12:13 PM
Theyl'l be spending some time playing Tourist, exploring Kyoto and Mahoutokoro and seeing the sights at Festival time, as well as tutoring a couple of Japanese redheads in English, but what should they do to advance their own study of the arcane?

Are those persons shirou relatives?.

[X] Learn about Youkai Communities

[X] Browse the stores and see if anything strikes their fancy

Cremela
December 19th, 2015, 01:08 PM
No! No browsing! Remember what people actually pay in here isn't just Knuts, Sickles and Galleons; look at what happened last year! And the Twins may not know this!

I agree, though, that both should [x] Learn about Youkai Communities... now what else...

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Harry and two of his friends learning how to be an animagus after the "glory hunting" of last year and failing for potions champion is not going to make Snape think highly of him...

Caster
December 19th, 2015, 01:10 PM
It's not like Harry is neglecting Potions, I don't see why Snape would look down on him.

alfheimwanderer
December 19th, 2015, 01:34 PM
Not that Snape is a teacher at Hogwarts anymore. Shinji and Harry will be instructed by Professor Slughorn, the new Potions Master of Hogwarts.


No! No browsing! Remember what people actually pay in here isn't just Knuts, Sickles and Galleons; look at what happened last year! And the Twins may not know this!

Depending on the store. Most take crystallized prana/magic, some (which deal in foreign trade) take foreign currency, and some - the oldest shops, and those which have some...unique items - take other things entirely.


Are those persons shirou relatives?.

Maybe. It would be a useful thing for the head of the Fujou and one of his cousins to have more conversation practice.

Caster
December 19th, 2015, 02:08 PM
The risk is why it's worth it. Not only are we not picking something, but it's something with the possibility of a drawback. Of the options available that makes it the most likely to be of great benefit. Playing it safe and never taking chances is an unwise idea. The wand we got was very useful so far.

mAc Chaos
December 19th, 2015, 02:18 PM
So Alf, what exactly changed when we gave away Hermione's gift?

saki
December 19th, 2015, 02:20 PM
[ ] Refine their duelling technique with students of Mahoutokoro
[ ] Browse the stores and see if anything strikes their fancy (Oh, the potential drama)


In the end what was the meaning of the book that we old for the wand and what would have happened if we didnt gave it away?
Also, Sion didnt say anithing about Hermione even thougth she gave her that cat. What happened there and what was that cat?

alfheimwanderer
December 19th, 2015, 02:27 PM
So Alf, what exactly changed when we gave away Hermione's gift?

Besides losing the book, Shinji received a 25% penalty to his ability to percieve Hermione points (if she was at 60, he only saw 45, etc) as well as increases. This would persist until both either entered a romantic relationship, proving they truly had a connection, or their relationship fell apart due to mismatched expectations, at which point the resulting despair would be a secondary price.


Also, Sion didnt say anithing about Hermione even thougth she gave her that cat. What happened there and what was that cat?

Cat was a dream familiar meant to moderate her feelings of grief and eliminate nightmares by consuming them. It was not meant to spy on her, though in the absence of nightmares, she seemed to have more...ero dreams about Shinji. And a few other dreams involving her, a white dress, and a prince in black.

As for why Sion didnt say anything, Hermione seems ok, even if shes leaving Hogwarts, no? If she was dead, well...

Malgos
December 19th, 2015, 03:17 PM
Learn about Youkai communities.

And browse the shops.

Wouldn't hurt for them to know more about the Youkai as they want a familiar.

Caster
December 19th, 2015, 03:34 PM
The youkai community stuff is very important, if they both don't take it then they can't go out and hunt for a familiar, they won't get approval.

All That Is Left Unsaid
December 19th, 2015, 03:40 PM
From what I gather, learning to be an animagus would help the Twins get into a better mindset to handle fusion, and I'm guessing that learning about the youkai communities would give them some ideas of what to expect and what they might be compatible with.

The thing about working with Harry that interests me is that Alf implied that there might be some hard feelings over the Twins helping Shinji prepare for the Potions Competition against Harry. I am wondering if putting them together would give them a chance to talk things over and remove any lingering negativity, or if it could make things worse. Also, would the animagus training be done with Harry as well?

It might also be worth considering that choosing separate activities for each Twin would start them on the road of differentiating themselves more.

I am tentatively going with

[x] Become an Animagus
[x] Learn about Youkai Communities

for both Twins, as these options seem to give them the best chances of successfully getting familiars, which seems to keep more to the spirit of Shinji's deal with them.

Caster
December 19th, 2015, 03:58 PM
I imagine that them just picking items that catch their interest might get them on that road for differentiating as well. The familiars they get should be different as well.

Omida
December 19th, 2015, 06:50 PM
[X] Learn about Youkai Communities - For both of them. As others said, they should check out what they are in and what spirits/animals/other they can meet.

Before making the second choice, I would like to know what effects Occlumency would have beside obvious mental defense. And would it help or hinder achieving fusion?

Mattias
December 19th, 2015, 07:28 PM
[x] Youkai communities, so they can get familars easier by knowing about all the creatures they will encounter.

[x] Browse the store. Even if they run into some stores which use 'alternative' payments, those places are normally upfront about it. You never walk out of a store and find yourself suddenly blind. That's how you get upset customers, who come back and beat you to a pulp.

alfheimwanderer
December 19th, 2015, 07:34 PM
Before making the second choice, I would like to know what effects Occlumency would have beside obvious mental defense. And would it help or hinder achieving fusion?

Improved memory and focus, making it easier to cast non-verbally, as well as granting a slight overall power boost.

Probably a bit of a hinderance, since you are protecting your mind from the outside.

Omida
December 19th, 2015, 07:46 PM
Thank for clarification, Alf! Well, then, my full choice then is:

[X] Learn about Youkai Communities

[X] Become an Animagus - Because Twins decided to come because they were really intrigued by capabilities of fusion, so I think they would rather take skills that would be more helpful towards that. And even if they don't achieve fusion, that werewolf bite immunity is always some sweet deal.

saki
December 19th, 2015, 07:48 PM
Cat was a dream familiar meant to moderate her feelings of grief and eliminate nightmares by consuming them. It was not meant to spy on her, though in the absence of nightmares, she seemed to have more...ero dreams about Shinji. And a few other dreams involving her, a white dress, and a prince in black.


Len is that you?



As for why Sion didnt say anything, Hermione seems ok, even if shes leaving Hogwarts, no? If she was dead, well...

What,What,What!!??

alfheimwanderer
December 19th, 2015, 07:53 PM
Len is that you?

No. The cat wasn't causing her to have those dreams, just eating the nightmares. If her mind filled the gap or remembered the pleasurable more without the grief, that's not Sykri's fault.


What,What,What!!??

A dead Hermione would have had negative effects, with Sykri collected and the record of interactions analyzed.

Skull Leader
December 19th, 2015, 08:59 PM
Ok, people this is an opportunity for us to have the twins diversify more from each other. Everyones seems to be voting them to do the same things and I believe we're missing a golden opportunity here. Why do this? They work best as a team together and have developed an attack pattern that gets Fred to attack while George hides in wait and sets up the rune traps. So let's vote to have them work further on these already existing specialties.

Fred should learn
[X] Refine their duelling technique with students of Mahoutokoro
[X] Become an Animagus Learn about Youkai Communities

George should learn
[X] Study Occlumency Learn about Youkai Communities
[X] Become an Animagus

Both would learn Animagus just like their heroes, the Marauders but hopeful their forms would be different to keep in line with their battle roles. I agree with you all that animagus would be useful for them. I have Fred learning dueling to keep with his front line/distraction role while George will learn to hide his mind with Occlumency, which should help with needed stealth aspect as it would hide his thoughts more from people like Voldemort as well would give George the focus needed to continue to set the traps up in the heat of battle. And as a bonus, I image that the two would cross train a little and would teach the other some of what they learned. The cross training might not happen soon or be as effecive as learning the skill themselves but there should be some crossover effect.

EDIT: Changed votes so that each would learn about Youkai Communities. Keep Fred learning dueling to keep his role of attacker intact. George learns Animagus form so that can continue his support role in combat so that he can go unnoticed while laying down traps.

Caster
December 19th, 2015, 09:12 PM
Youkai study is necessary in order to get families Skull, so that right there is a pretty pressing reason. And the browsing shops option seems like an option where they would pick out things they like, doesn't have to be the same thing, nor is it likely. Though I suppose Alf could answer that.

Kelnish
December 19th, 2015, 09:12 PM
Have them learn magecraft~~~

Veldril
December 19th, 2015, 09:33 PM
[x] Learn about Youkai Communities

[x] Refine their duelling technique with students of Mahoutokoro

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Have them learn magecraft~~~

If this was a possible choice, I would vote for it instantly!

Skull Leader
December 19th, 2015, 09:39 PM
I grant you that Youkai would be important Caster. But why do both of them need to learn about Youkai? One of them can do that and then together they can work out what kind of familiar they need based on the info the one retrives. It seems like a waste to have both of them do the same thing in that case, the same for the shopping action. One of them can buy things for the other, its not like they don't know what their Twin likes.

I could change out animagus for Youkai for one of them or have George do the Youkai learning instead of Occlumency. I will give it some more thought but I stand by diversity here is needed.

Caster
December 19th, 2015, 09:55 PM
Alf said unless both of them take Youkai they will not be able to go get a familiar, one of them isn't enough.

I am also fairly sure they will not get to split things like the shopping trip, or any of these things in a major fashion.

alfheimwanderer
December 19th, 2015, 09:56 PM
I said they wouldn't be cleared to join an expedition. Which isn't the same thing.

Skull Leader
December 19th, 2015, 10:01 PM
What is the difference? Is it that without being apart of an expedition, they would have to go on their own? A thing that would likely end in failure and/or their death.

Caster
December 19th, 2015, 10:03 PM
An expedition is the best means to get a familiar, partial effort like that is part of the issue we had last year. If we are getting familiars they should be the best possible, anything less is just us wasting time.

alfheimwanderer
December 19th, 2015, 10:09 PM
What is the difference? Is it that without being apart of an expedition, they would have to go on their own?

Or get a familiar from the city. There are a number of abandoned tsukumogami, for instance, among others. Perhaps one could go on an expedition and one remain behind, for example.

Mattias
December 19th, 2015, 10:40 PM
I grant you that Youkai would be important Caster. But why do both of them need to learn about Youkai? One of them can do that and then together they can work out what kind of familiar they need based on the info the one retrives. It seems like a waste to have both of them do the same thing in that case, the same for the shopping action. One of them can buy things for the other, its not like they don't know what their Twin likes.


It's not about what THEY think they need, it's about what Youkai will go along with them. They need the Youkai info so they can try and steer that a little, and when they meet one they like, not offend it immediately by, say, making fun of a Tanuki for having huge balls.

Cassius
December 19th, 2015, 10:52 PM
Fred should learn
[X] Refine their duelling technique with students of Mahoutokoro
[X] Learn about Youkai Communities

George should learn
[X] Learn about Youkai Communities
[X] Become an Animagus

EnigmaticFellow
December 20th, 2015, 01:15 AM
Both:
[X] Learn about Youkai communities
[X] Refine their duelling technique with students of Mahoutokoro

Nephirin
December 20th, 2015, 01:43 PM
[x]Youkai
[x]Potions

Seems to me that since Harry is our second, we'll be working with him a lot this year. So him getting better at potions means we'll get a boost to potions as well.

Cremela
December 20th, 2015, 01:52 PM
Do we know if the twins will be going for the Triwizard champion selection?

alfheimwanderer
December 20th, 2015, 03:45 PM
Do we know if the twins will be going for the Triwizard champion selection?

I believe they'll be requested to enter the selection, yes.

Caster
December 20th, 2015, 03:50 PM
I realize that the Twins going shopping is meant to be a big mystery, but could you answer whether or not them both picking that option would lead to the same outcome or not?

alfheimwanderer
December 20th, 2015, 03:55 PM
I realize that the Twins going shopping is meant to be a big mystery, but could you answer whether or not them both picking that option would lead to the same outcome or not?

It's a mystery option for a reason. Much depends on who they go shopping with, whether they're shown around by their redheaded students and such. Fufufu~

alfheimwanderer
December 20th, 2015, 04:27 PM
Current Tally: Starting to see some differentiation. Interesting. Voting will be open till tomorrow night, when I put up the final choice before the story begins...

Fred:
[2] Become an Animagus
[12] Learn about Youkai Communities
[5] Refine their duelling technique with students of Mahoutokoro
[0] Study Occlumency
[5] Browse the stores and see if anything strikes their fancy
[1] Work on Potions with Harry


George:
[4] Become an Animagus
[12] Learn about Youkai Communities
[3] Refine their duelling technique with students of Mahoutokoro
[0] Study Occlumency
[5] Browse the stores and see if anything strikes their fancy
[1] Work on Potions with Harry

Username
December 20th, 2015, 07:07 PM
Fred:
[X] Learn about Youkai Communities
[X] Refine their duelling technique with students of Mahoutokoro

George:
[X] Browse the stores and see if anything strikes their fancy
[X] Learn about Youkai Communities

Caster
December 20th, 2015, 07:20 PM
Alf, to what extent would what Fred picks affect George, and vice versa? Would it depend on the choice in question?

alfheimwanderer
December 20th, 2015, 07:42 PM
Alf, to what extent would what Fred picks affect George, and vice versa? Would it depend on the choice in question?

Of course it depends on the choice in question.

gesalt
December 20th, 2015, 08:05 PM
Fred
[X] Duel
[X] Potions

George
[X] Browse
[X] Duel

Caster
December 20th, 2015, 08:07 PM
Given these are the two mainly in contention right now, the browsing option and the dueling option, how easily is "sharing" accomplished with them?

alfheimwanderer
December 20th, 2015, 08:51 PM
Given these are the two mainly in contention right now, the browsing option and the dueling option, how easily is "sharing" accomplished with them?

They might practice with each other for dueling, or pass along tips. Stores - it depends on what they visit and who they're with.

Caster
December 20th, 2015, 08:57 PM
Will we get to influence what stores they go to, who they go with, or what they purchase? In a broad sense that is.

Would the twins sharing dueling tips make them more or less like the other twin? Likewise would there both taking dueling help or hurt individuality?

alfheimwanderer
December 20th, 2015, 09:03 PM
Will we get to influence what stores they go to, who they go with, or what they purchase? In a broad sense that is.

No. You'll be busy with your own stuff. The Twins are asking for general advice on what to do just because Shinji's been here before and (presumably) knows what would be best for them to pursue in this time, but after this initial interaction, both Shinji and the Twins will be doing their own things, with their own obligations. Besides, I need to have a little creative freedom too, since this is a CYOA, not a standard quest.


Would the twins sharing dueling tips make them more or less like the other twin?

No. They would just be telling the other about things to be aware of.


Likewise would their both taking dueling help or hurt individuality?

Why does it have to do either?

Caster
December 20th, 2015, 09:24 PM
That's fine, I'm asking for clarification purposes. And I'm asking because individuality is a big concern for these votes too, or at least enough others bring it up. I am not saying it has to do either, but does it? Or would it have no impact? One of those would be true, so I'm trying to figure it out for clarification. A lot of times the votes bite us because we thought things were true that weren't, or we didn't ask the right question, so if I see something of import then I'm going to ask until it's cleared up as best it can be.

alfheimwanderer
December 20th, 2015, 10:02 PM
I am not saying it has to do either, but does it? Or would it have no impact? One of those would be true, so I'm trying to figure it out for clarification.

I think I've said all I'm going to about this particular topic. Vote is open until tomorrow night.

mr_Trickster
December 21st, 2015, 12:49 AM
Something I wasn't able to bring up during the post-game discussion was that we're entering a period in our fictional lives where our continued divided loyalties might put us in a rather dangerous position. Something we've already seen during the Christmas break of this year when we spread ourselves so thin we half-assed just about everything in our goal to maintain a semblance of balance between each of the different factions we're trying to maintain reputation with (and ended up getting minimal results because of it).

Perhaps its time we began looking a min-maxing and throwing our lot in with something (though we might be doing that with Atlas in the coming months considering we've already committed so much to Sion and her camp).

As fort he most recent set of choices:

We've already commited to the twins the acquisition of familiars for them during this trip, so I'll definitely be throwing my votes in for [x] - Learn about the Youkai Communities of Japan. If they're getting familiars, might as well get them the best ones they could possibly get and not quite something in the city.

As for the second set of votes, I'll vote for having them [x] - browse the stores to see if anything strikes their fancy. As Alf mentioned, it's a mystery choice and one that could potentially add lots of new factors in for us to work with.

On the training note, we, ourselves, might want to look into developing Occlumency further considering the partitions will help with calculations - especially if we opt for full-on Atlas commitment with the phenomenon calculations bit.

alfheimwanderer
December 21st, 2015, 06:03 PM
And so the brothers take a different path...

Fred:
[x] Learn about Youkai Communities
[x] Refine his dueling technique with students of Mahoutokoro


George:
[x] Learn about Youkai Communities
[x] Browse the stores and see if anything strikes his fancy

100%

Shortly after Tanabata, Shinji receives a letter from home, or rather, a note informing him of the death of his father, Matou Byakuya, as well as the fact that Matou Byakuya's funeral has been scheduled for July 16. Reading this, the boy doesn't really feeling anything in particular, since Byakuya ceased to be his father a long time ago. Indeed, as he said to Harry once, "I have no father." Why should he care about the man who set him up for failure and ruined his life, after all? It would be his preference to stay in Mahoutokoro and work on both Potions and an area of study in advanced Ofuda (Yin, Water, or Shikigami), and the letter does not explicitly instruct him to attend, but...he is a son of the Matou family, and there are implicit expectations associated with that. And of course, he never did mention what happened at the Gala to his grandfather, something he thinks he should probably remedy sooner or later.

With that in mind, Shinji chooses to...

[ ] Go to the funeral
[ ] Skip the funeral and stay in Mahoutokoro

(This is the final choice before I begin writing Chapter 1 of Matou Shinji and the Broken Chains).

Cremela
December 21st, 2015, 06:13 PM
&#%$. I was wondering that this didn't come up sooner. Hoooo boy...

- - - Updated - - -

I'm presuming first chapter in a new book can't be Bad End :p

saki
December 21st, 2015, 06:35 PM
If we choose to go do we lose the chance to train anything or is it just a more limited version?
I guess trip for a funeral could be a week top.

Omida
December 21st, 2015, 06:39 PM
I'm presuming first chapter in a new book can't be Bad End :p

It can. In Nasuverse Dead End really can come with the very first decision. Of course, we may survive Grandpa's iritation, but I would rather not tempt fate. If we go, Shinji will spend the time before Hogwarts trying to avoid Very Bad Things.

[X] Skip the funeral and stay in Mahoutokoro

As Shinji said, Byakuya ceased to be his father long ago, so why should he go to funeral of some stranger? That way Shinji stays with friends during summer, deepening bonds and honing skills instead of dodging Worms End at every step.

Malgos
December 21st, 2015, 07:11 PM
Go to the funeral.

Aodyssey
December 21st, 2015, 08:29 PM
[x] Go to the Funeral.

If we learned anything from the Hermione fiasco, it's that misunderstandings should be cleared up ASAP. Zouken's blowup is likely to be a bit more lethal than running away, crying in the snow.

Nephirin
December 21st, 2015, 08:58 PM
[x]Go to funeral.

Skipping is going to have Zouken extremely mad at us.

Kelnish
December 21st, 2015, 09:20 PM
And so the brothers take a different path...

Fred:
[x] Learn about Youkai Communities
[x] Refine his dueling technique with students of Mahoutokoro


George:
[x] Learn about Youkai Communities
[x] Browse the stores and see if anything strikes his fancy

100%

Shortly after Tanabata, Shinji receives a letter from home, or rather, a note informing him of the death of his father, Matou Byakuya, as well as the fact that Matou Byakuya's funeral has been scheduled for July 16. Reading this, the boy doesn't really feeling anything in particular, since Byakuya ceased to be his father a long time ago. Indeed, as he said to Harry once, "I have no father." Why should he care about the man who set him up for failure and ruined his life, after all? It would be his preference to stay in Mahoutokoro and work on both Potions and an area of study in advanced Ofuda (Yin, Water, or Shikigami), and the letter does not explicitly instruct him to attend, but...he is a son of the Matou family, and there are implicit expectations associated with that. And of course, he never did mention what happened at the Gala to his grandfather, something he thinks he should probably remedy sooner or later.

With that in mind, Shinji chooses to...

[ ] Go to the funeral
[ ] Skip the funeral and stay in Mahoutokoro

(This is the final choice before I begin writing Chapter 1 of Matou Shinji and the Broken Chains).

Go to the funeral and eat all the turnips.

saki
December 21st, 2015, 09:23 PM
It can. In Nasuverse Dead End really can come with the very first decision. Of course, we may survive Grandpa's iritation, but I would rather not tempt fate. If we go, Shinji will spend the time before Hogwarts trying to avoid Very Bad Things.

[X] Skip the funeral and stay in Mahoutokoro

As Shinji said, Byakuya ceased to be his father long ago, so why should he go to funeral of some stranger? That way Shinji stays with friends during summer, deepening bonds and honing skills instead of dodging Worms End at every step.

Remember that Zouken doesnt hate Shinji. He has 30 relationship and 35 is the minimun to be on good graces, if we dont screw up we can even gain benefices.

Caster
December 21st, 2015, 09:49 PM
Skip the funeral. Going to the funeral will put us on a bad route.

Kelnish
December 21st, 2015, 09:53 PM
Skip the funeral. Going to the funeral will put us on a bad route.

Ill remember this.

mr_Trickster
December 21st, 2015, 10:05 PM
Zouken wants answers, might as well give him what we can. If our relationship with him can still be salvaged with an explanation and - possibly - a dose of the Water of Life so we might end up working with Zolgen instead, then might as well. Worst case, we can take this opportunity for closure with the remainder of our... family.

Not attending might cement our departure from the Makiri, but not quite in a way that we might be able to consider... safe.

[x] - Attend

Caster
December 21st, 2015, 10:13 PM
The two choices likely line up to the two routes Alf was outlining on IRC, which is why I'm cautious.

mr_Trickster
December 21st, 2015, 10:16 PM
The two choices likely line up to the two routes Alf was outlining on IRC, which is why I'm cautious.

What're we looking at? I'm curious now.

Captain
December 21st, 2015, 10:49 PM
[x] Attend


The two choices likely line up to the two routes Alf was outlining on IRC, which is why I'm cautious.

Do tell.

EnigmaticFellow
December 21st, 2015, 10:51 PM
[X] Go to the Funeral.

As far as I'm aware, there's two ways this can go. Either Shinji can convince Zouken so that he can stay with the Matou, or he gets disowned. Staying with the Matou has its perks and allows Shinji to continually keep the support and patronage of Zouken. On the other hand, knowingly getting disowned by the Matou allows for Shinji to account for that fact when making his next move. Zouken isn't in a position to attack Shinji due to his connection with Sion; therefore, there is no reason not to attend the funeral and see what Zouken has to say.

Nanao-kun
December 21st, 2015, 11:03 PM
[X] Go to the Funeral

Mattias
December 21st, 2015, 11:13 PM
[x] Attend. Zouken will be pissed, ut it's still better than throwing that relationship away. Besides he did set us up with Touko.

skulkidcachi90
December 21st, 2015, 11:39 PM
[x] Go

you better go shinji, even if that guy was not your father he was your procreator.

mAc Chaos
December 21st, 2015, 11:59 PM
Shinji would go.

[x] Attend

Kishou the Badger
December 22nd, 2015, 03:18 AM
Ah what the hell. Delaying the action will only make Zouken more annoyed and anxious.

[x] Attend Funeral.

alfheimwanderer
December 22nd, 2015, 04:04 AM
A preview of a possible dead end in the future, should Shinji discover things man was not meant to know, or pick up an odd spellbook with its own powerful prana core...

(incidents like this are what the Illuminati, Magical Congress of the USA, and others try to prevent in North America)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptP0OR-e7rI

mr_Trickster
December 22nd, 2015, 09:00 AM
Merry Christmas to you, too, Alf. :))))))

saki
December 22nd, 2015, 09:58 AM
A preview of a possible dead end in the future, should Shinji discover things man was not meant to know, or pick up an odd spellbook with its own powerful prana core...

(incidents like this are what the Illuminati, Magical Congress of the USA, and others try to prevent in North America)


If i get the chance im so voting for that.

Cremela
December 22nd, 2015, 12:06 PM
The two choices likely line up to the two routes Alf was outlining on IRC, which is why I'm cautious.

Was wondering whether anything interesting came up in IRC...



Do tell.

Yes, pls do!

Cassius
December 22nd, 2015, 03:24 PM
[x] Go to the funeral
From what Alf mentioned, I think going is better because even if it causing more issues sooner, its better to deal with it now than to let it build up for later.

alfheimwanderer
December 22nd, 2015, 04:41 PM
If i get the chance im so voting for that.

There are very few things that are guaranteed to get you on Sion's bad side. I guarantee trying to summon Cthulhu into this world is one of them. Just keep in mind, R'lyeh is a thing in the Nasuverse. Happy Solstice! :)

Megas
December 22nd, 2015, 05:19 PM
[x] Go to the funeral

Kuroyuki
December 22nd, 2015, 06:53 PM
[X] Go to the funeral

Okay. Why do I want to go. First, Zouken is always better as an ally than not. Second, I would also like to tell him that we MIGHT have pissed off the Einzbern... Might be a good idea. Third, we still the owe the old man for the wand and some money. So we can at least attend our stupid father's funeral.

All That Is Left Unsaid
December 22nd, 2015, 07:59 PM
On one hand avoiding Zouken might make Shinji appear worse in his eyes, like he knows he did something wrong and is trying to hide something. On the other hand, going means Shinji loses time to study potions, specifically eastern potions, which could be invaluable for helping Shinji's chances in the Championship, to say nothing of more ofuda development, and time with Harry and the others.

Still, there might be opportunities to talk to Sakura as well as Zouken if he does go.

Eh, I'll say

[x] Go to the funeral

The entire thing shouldn't lose Shinji more than two to three days of studying time, right?

saki
December 22nd, 2015, 09:54 PM
There are very few things that are guaranteed to get you on Sion's bad side. I guarantee trying to summon Cthulhu into this world is one of them. Just keep in mind, R'lyeh is a thing in the Nasuverse. Happy Solstice! :)

Making me choose between Sion and an Elder God. I cant say i exected that.

alfheimwanderer
December 23rd, 2015, 02:08 AM
[x] Go to the Funeral it is then.

Uhuhuhuhuhuhuhu....

100%

Stay tuned for the first chapter of Matou Shinji and the Broken Chains! Coming tomorrow!

Veldril
December 23rd, 2015, 08:42 AM
[x] Go to the Funeral it is then.

Uhuhuhuhuhuhuhu....

100%

Stay tuned for the first chapter of Matou Shinji and the Broken Chains! Coming tomorrow!

I guess we can say "Hard Mode/Hell Mode" unlocked by now :P

saki
December 23rd, 2015, 03:50 PM
Last questions:
If at the beginning we had chosen to go full-orphan/hard-mode route by going to ask rin for help, would that have been at least a good relationship or mafia-like 'pay or ill break your legs'.
Im guessing we had Sion because we choose Ravenclaw, so who would have been the special character in Slytherin?
And with Shinji being unable to get private rooms wouldn't that have caused him a breakdown in the first two weeks?
What kind of ending could you imagine for that path? Something vague is fine.

alfheimwanderer
December 23rd, 2015, 09:00 PM
If at the beginning we had chosen to go full-orphan/hard-mode route by going to ask rin for help, would that have been at least a good relationship or mafia-like 'pay or ill break your legs'.

Mix of both, though when Shinji finally paid up, Rin would have been blown away at Shinji's independence. That would have been more of a Rin arc.


Im guessing we had Sion because we choose Ravenclaw, so who would have been the special character in Slytherin?

Sion was the special character of that year, given the Philosopher's Stone.


And with Shinji being unable to get private rooms wouldn't that have caused him a breakdown in the first two weeks? What kind of ending could you imagine for that path? Something vague is fine.

He would have snapped, and we probably would have seen him waging a low grade war (at least) against the rest of his house, with him eventually ending up as something like a new Tom Riddle.

100%

And now, the moment you await is here...join me for the launch of Matou Shinji and the Broken Chains (http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/6311-Matou-Shinji-and-the-Broken-Chains-%28HP-FSN-CYOA%29?p=2187429&viewfull=1#post2187429)!

saki
December 24th, 2015, 12:07 AM
Mix of both, though when Shinji finally paid up, Rin would have been blown away at Shinji's independence. That would have been more of a Rin arc.

He would have snapped, and we probably would have seen him waging a low grade war (at least) against the rest of his house, with him eventually ending up as something like a new Tom Riddle.


Rin route and Lord Shinji!!!
When you finish this CYOA would you feel like making another one from that point. I want to see the evil route.

Vagrant
December 24th, 2015, 07:21 PM
Wait what this is over? Jesus. When I last read it there was still plenty of time in the year, the last thing I read was Shinji's kobayashi meru. Guess it has been a while.

Can anyone sum up briefly what happened in the rest of the year and where we stand now?

Nanao-kun
December 24th, 2015, 07:26 PM
Wait what this is over? Jesus. When I last read it there was still plenty of time in the year, the last thing I read was Shinji's kobayashi meru. Guess it has been a while.

Can anyone sum up briefly what happened in the rest of the year and where we stand now?

Probably be best to read it on FF; reading a quick summary tends to bring out poorly inferred conclusions.

Mattias
December 24th, 2015, 09:21 PM
Wait what this is over? Jesus. When I last read it there was still plenty of time in the year, the last thing I read was Shinji's kobayashi meru. Guess it has been a while.

Can anyone sum up briefly what happened in the rest of the year and where we stand now?

Ron joined the Ourea, Draco hissy-fitted out, We beat the Spiders, got Hagrid sent to Azkaban, and got some water of life from Sion. Oh, and we beat down Harry so we got Potions championship contender status.

saki
December 25th, 2015, 12:13 AM
Pansy is going to become an assassin and shinji may have the option to unleash cuthulu.

Vagrant
December 25th, 2015, 02:43 AM
So having read the post-game choice breakdown I've gotta say, it's hilarious how massively we boosted Herm's potion championship points and ignored our own and then still managed to get the role.

Glad that Hermione is no longer around. If anything the post game analysis simply highlights how complex this whole thing is. No more balancing act thanks.

I wanted to go a full Assassin/Zouken training route. I'm sad that Ilya has fucked things up so much in that regard. I'm gunning for Assassin route in Broken Chains.

- - - Updated - - -

So having read the post-game choice breakdown I've gotta say, it's hilarious how massively we boosted Herm's potion championship points and ignored our own and then still managed to get the role.

Glad that Hermione is no longer around. If anything the post game analysis simply highlights how complex this whole thing is. No more balancing act thanks.

I wanted to go a full Assassin/Zouken training route. I'm sad that Ilya has fucked things up so much in that regard. I'm gunning for Assassin route in Broken Chains.

Abendroth
January 23rd, 2016, 07:11 PM
I was responding to your comment about Sion not liking to share. As you yourself pointed out, it is possible for someone to love more than one person. However, what those types of love turn out to be, or even if they are mutually exclusive, depends on the situation and people in question.
I'm not communicating clearly. I meant why was this text:

Shinji is still striving towards Sion, as he has been for a long time.

a part of the reply to this complaint:


meanwhile worst girl just ride the fucking Railroad that if we don't get more Sion point here, we'll randomly find Shinji route locked to her in the next update or two
if Shinji 'striving towards' Sion isn't meant in a romantic sense, when the complaint is about romance routes.

alfheimwanderer
January 23rd, 2016, 07:25 PM
if Shinji 'striving towards' Sion isn't meant in a romantic sense, when the complaint is about romance routes.

It both is and it isn't. After all, at the foundation of who he is, he puts Sion first, before anything or anyone else. As such, there there was no route-lock, given that if he is made to choose, he will choose Sion over anyone - even his family, even Luna - though Sion is likely to respect this and not abuse it by making him choose.