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Nacho the Doritosedge
February 9th, 2016, 08:02 AM
Reveal yourselves to me, possible opponents.

Laith
February 9th, 2016, 08:16 AM
sure but i wont play online

Spinach
February 9th, 2016, 08:18 AM
I buy good games so yes.

Five_X
February 9th, 2016, 08:23 AM
Of course, so I can play with my good friend Spinach.

Petrikow
February 9th, 2016, 08:24 AM
depends on how much money i have

hopefully its cheap

Spinach
February 9th, 2016, 08:36 AM
I expect the $20 price range.

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I mean Xrd was a steam release within one year of its console release and it was only $30 so how can they sell a five year old anime fighter for anything more than $20

Ivan The Mouse
February 9th, 2016, 08:50 AM
I can't play fighting games to save my life.

Skull
February 9th, 2016, 09:01 AM
I guess I might, but I don't quite care about MB outside of the main story line.
Pretty much this, cost is also a factor.

I guess I'm decent at fighting games.

Nacho the Doritosedge
February 9th, 2016, 09:13 AM
I guess I might, but I don't quite care about MB outside of the main story line.
This is how it started for me, through Blazblue.

You never know when Fighting Games will grasp your soul.

Strife ❤️
February 9th, 2016, 09:33 AM
Yes

Spinach
February 9th, 2016, 09:34 AM
Which character will you play Stife

Petrikow
February 9th, 2016, 09:36 AM
let me guess... ryougi?

Spinach
February 9th, 2016, 09:41 AM
Actually lol why'd you put this poll in 7th

Five_X
February 9th, 2016, 09:48 AM
There ya go, Spin. Technically speaking this is where it ought to be. Let Random Polls lie dormant and rot.

Snow
February 9th, 2016, 09:51 AM
I'd like to try it out, certainly.

Nacho the Doritosedge
February 9th, 2016, 09:59 AM
Actually lol why'd you put this poll in 7th
No other polls subforum

RIP

Spinach
February 9th, 2016, 10:04 AM
No other polls subforum

RIP

See that admins, the community bleeds and it's on your hands.

Rafflesiac
February 9th, 2016, 10:19 AM
Assuming I'm not destitute when it comes out, sure.

Mcjon01
February 9th, 2016, 10:29 AM
I won't unless they add a mode that automatically does combos for me like Blazblue.

Sarn
February 9th, 2016, 10:31 AM
I'll buy it to my friends so they feel forced to play it bwahahah
It's for my their own good. They need to taste this.

Canon
February 9th, 2016, 10:35 AM
I might get it but I get the feeling that I won't actually play it

Sesto
February 9th, 2016, 10:46 AM
yes, for sure

i'm terrible at fighting games though. even worse at mb, can barely beat the ai in arcade

Gabriulio
February 9th, 2016, 11:27 AM
I don't really care about PvP, so as long as it has a translation I'll just pirate it.

Saber Alter
February 9th, 2016, 11:29 AM
Yeah, definitely.

LegalLoliLover
February 9th, 2016, 11:40 AM
Melty Blood, on Steam, in English, with English story/arcade mode? I'm going to assume that it is the most recent version, correct? Huh, between this and Nitroplus Blasterz, a lot of niche fighting games are getting localized, it seems.

Neir
February 9th, 2016, 11:48 AM
Which edition?

Nacho the Doritosedge
February 9th, 2016, 12:10 PM
It's MBAACC.

Neir
February 9th, 2016, 12:18 PM
It's MBAACC.

then yeah, I'll buy it

You
February 9th, 2016, 03:34 PM
does a digital booklet come with the game?

Trubo
February 9th, 2016, 03:36 PM
Depends on the cost

Nacho the Doritosedge
February 9th, 2016, 03:37 PM
News of such added digital peripherals has not been released.

Megas
February 9th, 2016, 07:47 PM
meh, I'll probably buy it, but mostly to satisfy my need to punch Archetype Earth in the face.

mewarmo990
February 9th, 2016, 08:40 PM
Which version will it be?

kotelo
February 9th, 2016, 08:41 PM
No friends and no skills on fighting games, why would I?

Nacho the Doritosedge
February 9th, 2016, 08:42 PM
Which version will it be?


It's MBAACC.
.

mewarmo990
February 9th, 2016, 08:43 PM
Dual language? Please?

Frostyvale
February 9th, 2016, 08:48 PM
http://i.imgur.com/cLxZgw4.jpg?1

I can't wait.

Kirby
February 9th, 2016, 08:49 PM
I want to have fun, with my friends

Nacho the Doritosedge
February 9th, 2016, 08:53 PM
Dual language? Please?
Melty Blood Actress Again Current Code

LegalLoliLover
February 9th, 2016, 09:39 PM
Dual language? Please?
I doubt that it's going to be dubbed, so I'm not quite sure what you mean by "dual".

Mcjon01
February 9th, 2016, 09:43 PM
I doubt that it's going to be dubbed, so I'm not quite sure what you mean by "dual".
Did you know that Japanese has a writing system, and that Japanese games often use it? The more you know.

Nacho the Doritosedge
February 9th, 2016, 09:49 PM
steam usually translates its games so

Canon
February 9th, 2016, 09:55 PM
Before the point is lost any further, I hazard the guess that the original question was, "will there also be original Japanese setting with the Steam release"

Nacho the Doritosedge
February 9th, 2016, 10:10 PM
There probably will be yes

Guilty Gear, the first of Arcsys's big steam drop, has dual audio, so I'm guessing it should be holding pattern. Heck it probably won't even have english voices, like with Uniel and DFCi's releases in the west

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unless you mean text in which case idk

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Sorry about the confusion

Mcjon01
February 9th, 2016, 10:14 PM
Yeah, like, with the English releases of Blazblue and that Persona fighting game you could switch both the text and audio to Japanese. In fact, I'm pretty sure Blazblue even let you switch cross and circle if you really wanted to weeb out.

Mattias
February 10th, 2016, 01:21 AM
Yes, if they release a mac version. If not, then it'll wait until I get a windows partition on this laptop.

Zenieth
February 10th, 2016, 01:24 AM
Sure, I'm pretty invested in all the fight gaming things.

Ashton Drake
March 5th, 2016, 07:49 AM
I'll be kicking peoples butt with Ryougi Shiki once its out..
And ArcSys said they will localize the game so everything except voices should be pretty easy.. considering mirror moon had almost done it in their translation.(which they had to stop due to arcsys taking licence) Finding appropriate English voice actors is extremely hard.. not to mention expensive.
So its highly unlikely that they will have English voices.. and i like the Japanese voices.. the English voice actors may not do justice to the characters.

And Seriously we need Ryougi Shiki's Stage

Ries
March 6th, 2016, 02:17 PM
Yes i will :)

no auto mode pls :\

also yeah the rest of the stages would be nice... also some graphic update huh?

Yato
March 6th, 2016, 02:22 PM
Yeah, il get it, then I will probably get owned in pvp because its my first fighting game

Spinach
March 6th, 2016, 02:25 PM
So its highly unlikely that they will have English voices.. and i like the Japanese voices.. the English voice actors may not do justice to the characters.

And Seriously we need Ryougi Shiki's Stage

Highly doubtful it gets an English dub since Under Night In-Birth didn't. Even if it does (it won't) there'll be an option to switch to English.

And you can play on And Nothing Heart if you use CCCaster.

Arashi_Leonhart
March 6th, 2016, 02:33 PM
If Dengeki Bunko with its popular-enough-for-an-anime cast as a draw isn't getting a dub, Melty isn't gonna.

Malgos
March 6th, 2016, 02:44 PM
Maybe, I''m going to try if I can set up a Game Cube controller for my computer first, as the only other Gamepad I've got is so old that it has less buttons than a SNES controller.

Should be fine, though. So probably just depends on the price tag. If not there's always the summer sale.

Spinach
March 6th, 2016, 02:54 PM
If Dengeki Bunko with its popular-enough-for-an-anime cast as a draw isn't getting a dub, Melty isn't gonna.

Right, I forgot Dengeki even got a real localization.

stares at imported copy of DFCI

eddyak
March 6th, 2016, 02:55 PM
Highly doubtful it gets an English dub since Under Night In-Birth didn't. Even if it does (it won't) there'll be an option to switch to English.
I always get slightly uneasy whenever I hear that game's name.

Bad memories of bad porn games.

Yes, I'll get melty blood, as long as the price isn't absolutely ridiculous. I'm wavering over whether to even get DS3's season pass because the bloody thing's sixty quid, all told.

Kirby
March 6th, 2016, 03:45 PM
Any guesses on how much MB will probably cost on release?

LJ3
March 6th, 2016, 04:53 PM
29 bucks for US customers?

Thats how much Xrd Sign got.

Spinach
March 6th, 2016, 04:54 PM
If they charge the same as they charged for Xrd that's insane. I expect $20 but my hopes are low.

Mattias
March 6th, 2016, 05:21 PM
stares at imported copy of DFCI

How is Ignition compared to the base game?

Spinach
March 6th, 2016, 05:52 PM
How is Ignition compared to the base game?

I didn't buy the base game because everyone says it's shit. DFCI's an okay game though. It's more about resource management and creating weird situations than crazy mechanical tech. It's a bit interesting.

Ries
March 6th, 2016, 08:09 PM
DFC its a terrible game, we can do all the combo routes of all the characters in 2 hours or less, everyone have the exact same inputs, horrible idea

i didn't got Ignition because the original game was very bad

Spinach
March 6th, 2016, 08:54 PM
Eh. Difficult combo routes don't make a fighting game good. It's a pretty pointless venture to design a game with needless execution barriers keeping new players out, but I don't think the extreme DFC went to for new player accessibility is the right move either (but it's a move made with the right intention). You can pick up Melty and do basic ground combos into launcher into jbc air throw within 10 minutes of going into practice mode, and it's still an amazing game, though obviously if you put the time into it there are characters with insane execution (C-Roa, C-Arc) that will take hours of work to optimize.

Like I said, playing the resource management minigame in DFCI was more than enough to give the game something interesting going for it, beyond whittling away at your muscle memory trying to optimize every confirm.

Was DFCI a great game? Nah. Was it good, yeah. I actually felt like I was playing something worth the money I put into it.

Rafflesiac
March 6th, 2016, 09:01 PM
Who was your main and who were your favored assists?

Spinach
March 6th, 2016, 09:03 PM
I played Kuroko because I have a thing for hormonal raging lesbians and flat chests. I used Asama because not using the only Horizon character would be a betrayal of everything I stand for.

But when I wanted to win Asama was my burst support and I ran Enju because that anti-assist kick made it hard af to play neutral against a Kuroko in Potential.

Arashi_Leonhart
March 6th, 2016, 09:07 PM
I have a thing for hormonal raging lesbians and flat chests

I see your avatar is well chosen

Spinach
March 6th, 2016, 09:10 PM
The amount of thought that goes into each avatar I use would overwork and force the brain of a lesser man into shock.

Mcjon01
March 6th, 2016, 09:28 PM
Blackstone was right....

Ries
March 7th, 2016, 09:21 AM
Eh. Difficult combo routes don't make a fighting game good. It's a pretty pointless venture to design a game with needless execution barriers keeping new players out, but I don't think the extreme DFC went to for new player accessibility is the right move either (but it's a move made with the right intention). You can pick up Melty and do basic ground combos into launcher into jbc air throw within 10 minutes of going into practice mode, and it's still an amazing game, though obviously if you put the time into it there are characters with insane execution (C-Roa, C-Arc) that will take hours of work to optimize.

Like I said, playing the resource management minigame in DFCI was more than enough to give the game something interesting going for it, beyond whittling away at your muscle memory trying to optimize every confirm.

Was DFCI a great game? Nah. Was it good, yeah. I actually felt like I was playing something worth the money I put into it.

Different combo routes give a game variety, all the characters must fell unique on their routes or the game will end up pretty boring.

there's other fighting games that i like that are not overly complex, but that are fun to play like Under Night in Birth EL, not everything needs to be BlazBlue and Guilty Gear, i know that those games only appeal to hardcore fighting games fans.

but the problem with little routes is that after a week playing we are already tired of the game since all the characters have the exact same inputs and the exact same combo routes,even the priority of attacks is messed up.

but like you said its a simple game to animefans to play with their favorite characters so its ok (probably)

Melty Blood is not simple in fact i consider it mid ground between BlazBlue, you can do pretty good combos with majority of the characters there, but as i said i would love to see a updated engine, they could just use UNIB one, they already have Sion on it just do everyone else :ciel:

Mcjon01
March 7th, 2016, 09:51 AM
Yes i will :)

no auto mode pls :\

also yeah the rest of the stages would be nice... also some graphic update huh?
It's a translation, guy. The only thing that will be changed is Japanese text into English. That's the definition of a translation, talking about graphical updates and new engines is just dumb.

Ries
March 7th, 2016, 02:56 PM
It's a translation, guy. The only thing that will be changed is Japanese text into English. That's the definition of a translation, talking about graphical updates and new engines is just dumb.

don't you say....

rly?! that's what a translation mean?

they can add the rest of the stages that are on the earlier versions of the game, (and in fact are playable if you select random select the stage on CC), they can also improve their filters of graphics its not very troublesome, since the game already has some outdated AA filter option its only natural for them to improve that. (if they don't mods will)

and before i forget..

i do think that you're a pretty arrogant and dumb person too what a coincidence but hey its not my problem :ciel:

Mcjon01
March 7th, 2016, 02:58 PM
Wow, hostile.

Spinach
March 7th, 2016, 03:13 PM
If wild routes are your thing DFCI has Yuuki and her routes are nuts, but yeah the standardized routes every character has made it feel pretty unexciting going from character to character. UNIEL actually has some pretty crazy stuff (many an hour has been spent in the lab practicing Carmine's 7k combos) and watching Sion rebeat whiff a thousand moves in her advanced routes is pretty nuts. Melty has a wide range of crazy mechanical characters to relatively simple stuff, but regardless of how hard it is to do combos in Melty the game's actually nuts to play for a lot of other reasons. My point was just that you CAN do suboptimal combos on just about every character in the game with little to no practice. I've never gone into training mode with Ryougi before but a few weeks ago I just went in and within 10 minutes I was doing super basic 4k combos without anything fancy.

That's the good thing about Melty, which I agree is a sort of middle ground between retarded games like GG that have a mechanical floor you'll need to spend many hours just trying to get to and games like DFC where you can be optimized in 15 minutes. You can go into Melty and just play and have a good time without having to grind out the most complex routes.

Mashina
March 8th, 2016, 06:01 AM
don't you say....

rly?! that's what a translation mean?

they can add the rest of the stages that are on the earlier versions of the game, (and in fact are playable if you select random select the stage on CC), they can also improve their filters of graphics its not very troublesome, since the game already has some outdated AA filter option its only natural for them to improve that. (if they don't mods will)

and before i forget..

i do think that you're a pretty arrogant and dumb person too what a coincidence but hey its not my problem :ciel:

Geez, who pissed on your cornfl-
Oh.

Ries
March 8th, 2016, 09:45 AM
I didn't really got to try Ignition didn't knew that they had some complex characters now i may want to give it a change i did try other of those anime fighters that was pretty simple as well it was called Koihime Enbu, the game don't have a big cast the routes are not all that awesome some are very repetitive but the combos are different at least, it got me interested for a time.

and yeah the fun thing about Melty its that you can begin playing and already chain 8 or 10 hits pressing whatever sometimes :ciel:

hope that the steam version sells well and that they release a new version of the game, there's some years that we're on CC already

Spinach
March 13th, 2016, 11:50 PM
If you didn't like DFC though don't take my words here as incentive to go buy Ignition. It added some cool stuff but it's still DFC so if you weren't into it then, you won't be into it now. It's DFC, but improved.

Melty sales on steam won't have any effect on the development of any new game, but the localization of a new game will be more likely to be greenlit if it does well on steam (it probably won't).

General Hospital
March 15th, 2016, 12:36 AM
I've been told not to bother buying Melty on Steam because ArcSys apparently handles netplay like my cat handles the subtraction of mixed fractions, but I'm going to buy it anyway because I want more Type-Moon stuff in the west. How far Melty selling well will go to achieving that end, I'm not sure.

I live in Australia too, so CCCaster already sucks (as much as my net sucks, to be fair). I've got nothing to lose but my money.

Abaddon
March 30th, 2016, 11:26 PM
FINALLY

http://store.steampowered.com/app/411370/

Gabriulio
March 31st, 2016, 07:01 AM
"True Progenitor".

black1blade
March 31st, 2016, 09:55 AM
How much is it going to cost and is this the version were you can play as ryougi?

Gabriulio
March 31st, 2016, 10:12 AM
How much is it going to cost and is this the version were you can play as ryougi?

Ryougi was in the screenshots.

Mirri
March 31st, 2016, 12:43 PM
1. How much is it going to cost

2. Is this the version were you can play as ryougi?

1. $25 before 20% launch discount that will be available for preorders and for one week after it launches.

2. Yes.

TheMaster_Rahl
April 1st, 2016, 11:47 AM
Melty Blood. Yum. Yum.

Pfhor your viewing pleasure:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlaKjRn0J6M

Strife ❤️
April 2nd, 2016, 01:22 PM
Soon

Kirby
April 2nd, 2016, 01:27 PM
Newcomers (I guess that includes me): who do you plan on maining?

Strife ❤️
April 2nd, 2016, 01:28 PM
Newcomers (I guess that includes me): who do you plan on maining?

Sion

Mcjon01
April 2nd, 2016, 01:36 PM
M. Bison

You
April 2nd, 2016, 01:36 PM
Booklet?

Ratman
April 2nd, 2016, 01:39 PM
M. Bison
So Balrog?

JetKinen
April 2nd, 2016, 01:41 PM
Probably the grappler

Is that Kouma?

Gabriulio
April 2nd, 2016, 01:51 PM
Probably the grappler

Is that Kouma?

Nah, that's Sacchin.

You
April 2nd, 2016, 01:53 PM
Probably the grappler

Is that Kouma?
satsuki

JetKinen
April 2nd, 2016, 01:58 PM
I'll play Yumiduka then.

Kotonoha
April 2nd, 2016, 01:58 PM
I got MBAACC on release day but haven't played MB since Act Cadenza. What does all this full moon half moon stuff mean

Strife ❤️
April 2nd, 2016, 01:59 PM
it makes the buttons act like they are other buttons

Ratman
April 2nd, 2016, 02:04 PM
I got MBAACC on release day but haven't played MB since Act Cadenza. What does all this full moon half moon stuff mean

C plays like Act Cadenza even though all the characters actually got some minor change like an added or removed move that changes how they play compared to AC completely

H moon means you only have up to 200% meter, and can't Heat with it, but go into heat automatically when you get there. Also you can't hold shield but if you do it right it's much better because you do a counter and can combo off it. Also your normals are really good and you probably have fiddly stuff that C or F have but much simpler.

F means you can't do that Reverse Beat thing you could do in Melty, where you press a b normal after a c normal, meaning you are a lot more limited in what you can combo into - basically, you are playing Blazblue/Guilty Gear. You also can only heat at MAX. That is all justified by your everything being generally larger and better.

Mcjon01
April 2nd, 2016, 02:05 PM
I got MBAACC on release day
December 31, 2011?

Kotonoha
April 2nd, 2016, 02:10 PM
December 31, 2011?
I got a cute pencil board of Arc and Saber at a kotatsu and everything

Gabriulio
April 2nd, 2016, 02:23 PM
I feel sad because I love Sacchin but I suck at playing as grabbers in any fighting game ever.

Ratman
April 2nd, 2016, 02:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_KEkAk2xqk
When you fight your eighth Ryougi in a row on release day, don't forget: This is the future you did not choose and had no say in.

TheMaster_Rahl
April 2nd, 2016, 05:39 PM
Probably the grappler

Is that Kouma?

Satsuki is not a grappler in melty. She does have command throws, but so do a lot of other chars.
Kouma is the closest thing to a grappler you'll find in melty, and even that's boarder line.



I got MBAACC on release day but haven't played MB since Act Cadenza. What does all this full moon half moon stuff mean

Explaining the moons is prolly the most complicated thing in melty to understand. In general it changes the meter mechanics, and some defensive options, as well as completely changing many normals, specials, and what naught. Main, universal differences are:
C-Moon:
-Has Shield (held parry) that is special/EX cancelable on success
-Has EX-Shield (tapped parry) that is also normal cancelable on success
-Has Dodge
-Has access to Heat at 100% meter or more
-Has access to 300% meter and then enters Max mode
-Once Max ends, meter goes back to 200%
-Once Heat ends, meter resets to 0%
-Has access to Blood Heat while in Max
-Has access to Burst while in Max
-Regains red life over time while in Heat or Blood Heat
-Can Reverse Beat heaveys to mediums to lights
-Can EX Gaurd (instant block)
-Can Shield Bunker (alpha counter) for 50%, which has clash, but no invuln, and puts the opponent in a techable state in the air
I think that covers most of C-Moon
H-Moon:
-Cannot EX shield
-Shield has an auto counter follow up that will activate except against projectiles on success, which has invuln
-Shields can be special/EX canceled instead of the auto counter on success
-Has Dodge
-Has access to 200% meter
-Cannot Heat at 100%
-Enters auto Heat at 200%
-Auto Bursts while in Heat, or can manual Burst if at 200% while being comboed
-Regains red life over time while in Heat
-Cannot access Blood Heat
-When Heat ends, meter resets to 0%
-Can Reverse Beat
-Cannot EX Guard
-Has a higher Guard Bar amount to compensate for lack of EX Guard
-Can Shield Bunker for 100%, Which has clash and invuln, and gives untechable knockdown.
Think that about covers H-Moon.
F-Moon:
-Has Shield (Tapped or Held), which can be special/EX canceled on success, or can be canceled into a manual shield counter that has invuln on success
-Cannot Dodge
-Has access to 300% meter
-Cannot heat on command, only while in Max mode and F-moon enter Heat mode
-Enters Max at 300%
-Has access to Blood Heat while in Max
-Has access to Initiative Heat (roman cancel) while in Max, which then puts you into Heat mode
-Instantly regain all red life when activating Blood Heat or Initiative Heat (IH)
-Once Max ends, meter resets to 100%
-Once Heat ends, meter resets to 0%
-Cannot Reverse Beat
-Can EX Gaurd
-Can Shield Bunker with C-Moon properties.
-Cannot air dash cancel blocked aerial B and C normals (C and H can do this)
Think that about covers it, but I might have missed a couple things.

Malgos
April 2nd, 2016, 06:29 PM
Newcomers (I guess that includes me): who do you plan on maining?

If i get it, maybe one of the Shikis or whoever suits me best.

JetKinen
April 2nd, 2016, 06:40 PM
Shit man, i just need someone i can rely to deliever damage without having to build muscle memory for 20 button combos.

Grapplers generally do that for me.

TheMaster_Rahl
April 2nd, 2016, 07:26 PM
Shit man, i just need someone i can rely to deliever damage without having to build muscle memory for 20 button combos.

Grapplers generally do that for me.

Try out F-Ries. She has a 3-5 button combo that does like 3.5-5K depending on the starter.

2A 5B 5C 236A is like 3K
2A 5B 6B 5C 236A is like 3.5K
2A 5B 6B 5C 236C is like 3.8K
5B 5C 236A is like 3.7K
5B 6B 5C 236A is like 4.3k
5B 6B 5C 236C is like 5k

With Air combos
2A 5B 6B 2C 214A j.BC dj.BC AT is like 4K
2A 5B 6B 5C 214B j.C dj.C delay j.6C land hj.BC sdj.BC AT is like 4.7K

Basic Combos I recorded in order of the notation above:

http://puu.sh/o3RSs/4d52670853.mp4

Gunbladeuser
April 2nd, 2016, 08:07 PM
I mainly want to play any of the Shikis and Kohaku.

How's the tierlist in this game btw?
I played Act Cadenza quite a lot back then and got the PS2 version of Actress Again (which I didn't play much though because of no netplay), but Current Code seems quite different.
Any really big gaps between certain characters?

Sesto
April 2nd, 2016, 08:09 PM
Newcomers (I guess that includes me): who do you plan on maining?

ryougi or vermilion probably

Ratman
April 2nd, 2016, 08:16 PM
I mainly want to play any of the Shikis and Kohaku.

How's the tierlist in this game btw?
I played Act Cadenza quite a lot back then and got the PS2 version of Actress Again (which I didn't play much though because of no netplay), but Current Code seems quite different.
Any really big gaps between certain characters?
The game can be considered quite balanced, actually amazingly balanced considering its huge roster. There are ~3 characters that are objectively S tier, and about the same amount that are objectively shit tier, out of ~100 characters. There are characters that are high effort, and then there are characters that perform just as well and are low effort, though.

While the game has a significant element of matchup knowledge, it's almost not at all about counterpicks and is almost completely about experience, and knowing how to play against X character, X moon.

That said, there are a bunch of really bad matchups (often involving Nero or Nanaya on either side), and most tournaments let you change moons at will to accomodate for those.

TheMaster_Rahl
April 2nd, 2016, 08:51 PM
Shit man, i just need someone i can rely to deliever damage without having to build muscle memory for 20 button combos.

Grapplers generally do that for me.

Also, decided to show some F-Kouma if you are set on a grappler.

F-Kouma basics:

1. 214A is 2K, with EX follow up (236C after grab) is 3K
2. 214B is same damage, also with ex follow up
3. 2A 5B 2B 5C 6C 623A is like 3.3K
4. 2A 5B 2B 5C 6C 623C is like 3.7K and leads to a tech punish/otg situation.
If you think they might tech, do 5B 2B 5C and confirm into 6C 623A ender for another 3.5K
If you thought they would tech, but didnt, the 5B 2B 5C will hit otg, so just end it there adding about 300 damage for 4K
If you think they wont tech, you can go for additional otg damage with dash 2AAAA 5C 623A bringing the damage up to 4.6K
5. 2A 5B 2B 2C 6C j.[C] dj.[C] land 623A is about 4K
6. 2A 5B 2B 2C 6C j.[C] dj.[C] land 623B Same tech punish/otg options above
7. 2A 5B 2B 2C 6C j.[C] dj.[C] land 623C Same tech punish/otg options above

Video Reference. Only shows combos 3-7, and demonstrates some mix-up options off 623A enders, and tech punish confirms for 623B/C enders.
http://puu.sh/o3XNW/93985c246d.mp4

Gunbladeuser
April 2nd, 2016, 08:51 PM
Sounds great. Not sure how much time and effort I'll pour into getting actually good at this game, but not having to worry about one's favourite characters being bottom tier unplayable makes me pretty happy.

Kirby
April 2nd, 2016, 09:16 PM
Anyone know if an Xbox controller would work well with Melty?

Kotonoha
April 2nd, 2016, 09:25 PM
In my experience neither gamepad nor keyboard are capable of doing half circles in fighting games 75% of the time so presumably you have to make an arcade stick out of a dakimakura. in my experience.

TheMaster_Rahl
April 2nd, 2016, 09:25 PM
Sounds great. Not sure how much time and effort I'll pour into getting actually good at this game, but not having to worry about one's favourite characters being bottom tier unplayable makes me pretty happy.

You mentioned Kohaku. C-moon is a high execution char. Hard, long combos. H-moon is not as hard, but still requires a fair amount of execution to play. F-moon is slightly weaker overall, but super easy to play. As a whole, Kohaku is high in A tier.

Tohno is also high in A tier, with his C and F being noticeably stronger then his H moon version. Easiest to use version would be F.

Ryougi is high A teir. Easiest to use version would be F.

Not sure if you are counting Nanaya, or Roa as a Shiki, but Nanaya is lower in A tier. Easiest to use version is prolly H.

Roa is S tier, pretty much because of his C-moon. Like Kohaku, C-Roa is a high execution char. His F and H versions are no slouches though, and both are easy to use.

And just in general, even the bottom tiers in this game can win against the top tiers. Bottom tier in Melty is like B tier.


Anyone know if an Xbox controller would work well with Melty?

Pads should work just fine. Some of the best players use pads. I know players that use keyboard, pad and stick.
If the Xbox pad is what you are comfortable with, then I'd say to use it.

Mcjon01
April 2nd, 2016, 09:30 PM
Anyone know if an Xbox controller would work well with Melty?

Insofar as an Xbox controller "works" with fighting games.

HiguraShiki
April 4th, 2016, 01:14 AM
Ya know, if ya guys want we can all make a Bl melty group. I'm down to make anything. Discord, skype, even FB is fine.

TheMaster_Rahl
April 5th, 2016, 01:37 PM
Ya know, if ya guys want we can all make a Bl melty group. I'm down to make anything. Discord, skype, even FB is fine.

If you want a BL specific group, that's fine. But I thought I'd mention that there is already an active Discord for Melty.
https://discordapp.com/invite/0TJ5ma4C19VUCEeV
(https://discordapp.com/invite/0TJ5ma4C19VUCEeV)The reason I suggest using it is that the reality of netplay means people will usually prefer to play other people from their own region of the world. Big latency, and unstable connections tend to make fighting game netplay a very bad experience. That Discord is already active, and has channels for the main regions that play outside of Japan.
So having BL only Melty events would prolly be fun, but I think over the long term, you'll see this regional division happen on its own within a BL only group. The same thing has happened with previous versions of Melty. So using an already established Discord will give you access to a larger pool of opponents.

I guess my closing statement would be to do both. Create a BL only group, but also join the larger Melty community.

Sesto
April 19th, 2016, 01:20 PM
Available: April 19
This game will unlock in approximately 8 hours

why

Kirby
April 19th, 2016, 09:06 PM
It's out

Gunbladeuser
April 19th, 2016, 11:37 PM
I bought it, downloaded it and... it's not starting. Yay.

Forbiddenone
April 19th, 2016, 11:40 PM
I'm reading bad things about the netcode.

Gunbladeuser
April 19th, 2016, 11:46 PM
I'm reading bad things about the netcode.
I wished I could contribute anything to that discussion.

Prinz
April 20th, 2016, 08:41 AM
So what kind of controller are you supposed to use? Never played any figthing games like that on pc

Kotonoha
April 20th, 2016, 08:44 AM
So what kind of controller are you supposed to use? Never played any figthing games like that on pc
http://i.imgur.com/rgMwioN.jpg

Gunbladeuser
April 20th, 2016, 11:12 AM
So, after they patched something, it finally works for me.
Playing this game for the first time again after such a long time... it's depressing how much I suck.

Trubo
April 20th, 2016, 02:21 PM
Oh, it's working now? I'll buy it when I get home.

etherlite
April 20th, 2016, 10:42 PM
finding opponents for ranked match still takes forever....

CompositeGNFNR
April 22nd, 2016, 09:56 AM
Having a lot of fun with it. How's the translation quality?

etherlite
April 22nd, 2016, 12:50 PM
Having a lot of fun with it. How's the translation quality?
some minor mistakes, but overall it's good

Forbiddenone
April 23rd, 2016, 10:29 PM
Is the netcode improved?