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That's the point.
Who are all the sun-related Servants again? I know there's Ozy, Karna, and Tamamo, but feel like I'm forgetting quite a few others.
Cu, Gawain, Geronimo, quetz kinda, hideyoshi
So what do we know about Karna's other classes because apparently there's things about them somewhere (like NP's, personality, appearance etc) but I can't find anything.
He is qualified for the Archer and Rider classes as said in Apo vol 5. As for different appearances you must mean the art that was shown with Karna when he was introduced in the complete material. I don't know much about it tho since I can't read what it said.
Yeah that’s it, I though there was more than saying he qualified for Archer and Rider. Ah well.
Grand Archer Karna.
Sorry for going back to this, but I had something to add.
This is actually quite likely. It would make a lot of sense considering that Fafnir is, in fact, the inspiration for Gollum. Fafnir the dwarf wanted his father's treasure, and the ring Andvarinaut in particular, for its power to create more gold (among a multitude of other unknown powers) and he killed him for it. He forced his brother to bring him the rest of the treasure and then hid in a cave deep in a forest (called the Mirkwood, for anyone interested), brooding over the ring for many years. At some point he became a dragon, in no small part due to the ring's influence. Andvarinaut was cursed by its creator to bring doom to any who possessed it.
Moving on over to the Nasuverse, Andvarinaut is/was no doubt a noble phantasm of immense power, certainly capable of turning someone into a dragon.
So perhaps Andvarinaut is the Evil Dragon Fafnir Event.
See above. Besides if that were the case, why didn't Siegfried turn into Fafnir too?
That's actually really cool, I didn't know that about Fafnir's origins. I hope that's what TM is going to go with.
I remember reading about that actually. Completely forgot by the time I came here, huh.
Andvarinaut goes on to bring down misfortune on a great many people. Mostly Sigurd at that point in the story. Right after Sigurd defeats Fafnir, he finds the ring, and when his adoptive father, Regin, who was also Fafnir's brother I mentioned saw the ring, he attempted to kill Sigurd while his back was turned.
The rest of this abridged summary of the Volsunga Saga
That's a summary of the Volsung Saga, not the Nibelungenlied. Siegfrieds story is very different from that.
So like, I read that initially the only heroic spirits that could be summoned were like, actual heroes.
The idea of anti-heroes being introduced was kind of weird and slightly paradoxical in the translated materials.
So are people like gille and other evil spirits part of the throne? Why is that? Is it cause of the "If people can blame you for something to ease themselves of that burden, they are considered heroes."
Also what are trhe other restrictions? Do the restrictions also apply in the FATE system in chaldea or the mooncell?
Do also what are those composite servants we've been getting in the last few chapters of epic of remnant? Is kojiro a similar existence?
Yes, Fuyuki Holy Grail could only initially summon the standard type of heroes. Angra Mainyu's taint changed that.
Yes, "evil" heroes like Medusa and Medea count as heroes because they still benefited humanity in some form or another.
The whole only-summon-heroes thing was a Fuyuki thing. Apocrypha, Extra, and Grand Order all operate on completely separate systems so throw out a lot of the FSN rules.
Wraiths are a separate thing. They also aren't on the Throne, but the implication is that the role they are playing is filled in by the wraith like an understudy, but that the role itself is from the Throne. "Sasaki Kojirou" is from the Throne, but the farmer dude that we see in FSN is a wraith that fills in the gaps since "Sasaki Kojirou" is maybe not a real person.
The stuff in Epic of Remnant is complicated and not completely elaborated on, plus it varies--Phantom composites in Shinjuku are different than the Foreigners in Salem.