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The grail didn't actually get corrupted by avenger. It corrupted itself out of spite just to make sure Kariya couldn't win.

You know they're just going to remake Tsukihime as a grail war next. Shiki summons arc as a servant and then immediately murders her, setting off the plot.

Darn.

I actually could find the chart I was using for FSN... I hoped whoever made it had done tsukihime as well.

Oh well, it isn't really a big deal to do things manually. Just hoping to...

Hey, does anyone have a flowchart for tsukihime that shows date info? I know there are decision trees (and I've found a complete one), but I'm looking for something more like the FSN flowchart,...

The problem with saber is she's got the whole 'prana factory' thing going on, so we have no idea what her upkeep costs look like.

Yeah, I've checked the 'shirou gives up his seals' bad end, and without an anchor or IA Saber can survive for two hours. Her max MP is 1200-1300 or so, so she hemorrhages about ten prana per minute,...

Is there any canon measure of how much power it takes to sustain a servant without grail support?

Also, the whole point of getting five stones was because Goliath had relatives, and David wanted to have one stone apiece to kill each of them.

It's actually one of the few cases where a NP with...

Personally, I think it seems kind of stupid to go into a discussion on something where the only hard info we have is from the newest VN... and expect anything other than information from the newest...

Apparently it does involve time travel. Aoko gets her massive efficiency by sending almost all the 'cost' of her spells to the future or the past.

Somehow.

Eh, I guess I'll go with plan Setzer, then.

Sure, I'll back that.

[x]Reinforce luck
[x]Conjure barbed wire

A Russian/Japanese mix who practices traditional Mongolian shamanism, and has joined the war to try to live up to the expectations of his absent father.

'Befriend' everyone.

[x] Keep practicing what Poppa teaches.

Especially since Rin said stuff like projection and structural analysis are really basic techniques. If she considers them basic, she'll had to have picked...

Rin is going to summon Doc Scratch.

That analogy is poor, given that both pieces would still be functional and there's a greater net gain. It's more like 'daddy, I already have a diversified portfolio performing well above the market....

Is that Zalgotext, or Japanese? I can't tell on this computer.

In either case, would it be possible for you to put it in English so I can read it?

That's dual inheritance, which as far as I can tell means that they manage to actually 'clone' their crest somehow.

Also, the Tohsakas somehow stole part of the Edenfelt's crest anyway, which...

Sacrilege as it may be, this may be one of the few instances where it's acceptable to split the crest.

After all, Rin isn't hurting for new circuits (it'd be a drop in the bucket at this point),...

[x] Numerology is a load of crap for weak-minded idiots.

Let's study something with more rigor, based on real science.

Numeronomy.

We voted on the emiyas?

Why not Zoidberg?

Is reinforcement within the scope of our abilities? If a half-trained idiot like Shirou can manage it, it really should be.

With this much MP we might (later) even be able to brute force our way...

I was under the impression Sakura always had shadow as an element, and got water from Matou 'training'.

Is there any really basic shadow stuff to work with (or, for that matter, lightning, since...