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    Well, maybe handwave the problem with Avalon...

    Well, maybe handwave the problem with Avalon somehow stabilizing the tranformations? Or have Shirou exalting seconds after avalon is stuck in him?

    Alternatively yes, Shirou without Avalon, and...
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    Reposting from a different forum:

    Reposting from a different forum:
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    My apologies. Reposting.

    My apologies. Reposting.
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    -wrong thread-

    -wrong thread-
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    Reposting from a different forum:

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    So, a (probably stupid) thought. Gilgamesh got a...

    So, a (probably stupid) thought. Gilgamesh got a flesh and blood body after the fourth grail war, right? In some respects he could be counted as human after that point. And he certainly possessed...
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    Well, Frankenstein was called "Modern...

    Well, Frankenstein was called "Modern Prometheus", so it may be argued that there's sufficient basis for him to have gained inspiration in something ancient, i.e. something Gil would have.

    So,...
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    Ok. He may still want to get more prana (in order...

    Ok. He may still want to get more prana (in order to conquer / destroy / cleanse / change the world) than the children can provide (plus, he may want complete independence from them and Kirei),...
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    So, a thought that probably mangles canon quite a...

    So, a thought that probably mangles canon quite a bit but still might be interesting, I believe:

    First, somewhat canonish (likely not at all) statements from which I construct the latter idea:
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    What classes is Gilgamesh qualified for? ...

    What classes is Gilgamesh qualified for?


    Why not? He's not real Gilgamesh, he's a copy of the one in the Throne, produced using what amounts to CTRL+C, CTRL+V combination.




    Gilgamesh...
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    This is one question and two ideas. The...

    This is one question and two ideas.

    The question is "are catalysts destroyed in the process of summoning?"

    And if the answer is no (or can be handwaved to no without too many problems) then...
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    So... A different thought. What would have...

    So... A different thought.

    What would have happened if Sakura was born male? No other changes to canon, just instead of there being two Toshaka sisters, there were a sister and a brother.
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    Again Arthur. Also, I would say, Gilgamesh...

    Again Arthur.

    Also, I would say, Gilgamesh (blonde sumerian, really?).

    But, you would note, that it is known that Heracles had a twin brother. And there are inconsistencies in his myth (the...
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    All myths are stories. And with time... stories...

    All myths are stories. And with time... stories get distorted - simplified, added onto, become symbolical...

    More than a millenium after his death, poets would talk about how Heracles killed...
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    Several options: 1) Because his race evolved...

    Several options:

    1) Because his race evolved on a world that had no supreme RM, he operates on the underlying "true" laws of the world, the ones that remain when you strip the RM's influences....
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    The world was going to die this day. No, the...

    The world was going to die this day. No, the world was already dead. It was dead from the beginning of history. It’s demise what has started it, what allowed their race to achieve true greatness...
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    Not pledging. Close friends. As in "I'll come to...

    Not pledging. Close friends. As in "I'll come to your aid if you call me and I know that you'll come to mine if I ever need it". At least for Gil-Iskander relationship. Also, again, different worlds....
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    The Throne of Heroes. Location, record, idea,...

    The Throne of Heroes. Location, record, idea, ideal. Existing outside of time, housing, encompassing, containing, all heroes that ever were, all those that still are, all those that will ever be....
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    Assume a long loop, at least a year long one....

    Assume a long loop, at least a year long one. Further assume that an arbitrarily high number of loops already happened. During that time it was found that they are inescapable. Try to reach Akasha?...
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    Shirou's mental state after an arbitrarily high...

    Shirou's mental state after an arbitrarily high number of loops would depend highly on a) the length if the loop and b) How good his memories of the loops are.

    Because the potential for variations...
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    Some part of it could be classified this way,...

    Some part of it could be classified this way, yes. To me it is the concept of "universe has mechanics and they look like rules of a videogame" being explored from the perspective of (incompetent)...
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    True. But groundhog mechanic allows one to play...

    True. But groundhog mechanic allows one to play with different routes and with the whole "your life is a videogame where you get score at the end and there are mechanics. even if you don't understand...
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    You mean difficulty level? Yeah, probably.

    You mean difficulty level? Yeah, probably.
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    An idea which is probably stupid. You guys know /...

    An idea which is probably stupid. You guys know / have heard about life-is-a-videogame!fanfics? Naruto fandom has the largest amount of them. The character dies, wakes up, finds out his life is a...
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    Thank you. Ok, fleshing the idea out. First,...

    Thank you.

    Ok, fleshing the idea out. First, one unicorn: Archer's Avalon was always active. It couldn't be deactivated, couldn't be taken out, couldn't be broken. Thus. he is left virtually...
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