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[Apple]

@Nununu:
Yes, but it still does not make them his if he was merely the collector. There had to be something along the lines of a previous owner (who could possibly have wielded the thing) >> Gil >> dude who stuck it in a tree/etc.

But again, if we accept that the ancient Babylonians owned the blueprints of multiple asian weapons, western broadswords and a grinder of sorts that was used to signify divinity in ancient India, then the argument does not mean anything, since it only illustrates possibilities. Which is precisely why I said that it does not cover all bases.

[Tobias]

@Nununu:
Yes, but it still does not make them his if he was merely the collector. There had to be something along the lines of a previous owner (who could possibly have wielded the thing) >> Gil >> dude who stuck it in a tree/etc.

But again, if we accept that the ancient Babylonians owned the blueprints of multiple asian weapons, western broadswords and a grinder of sorts that was used to signify divinity in ancient India, then the argument does not mean anything, since it only illustrates possibilities. Which is precisely why I said that it does not cover all bases.

no. if gil collects all treasures >>never once uses them in any way>>just throws them all in his vault >>has legends written about him having a giant vault filled with the treasures of the world >>gil is going to have a vault filled with all the treasures of the world.



which is exactly what happened. his noble phantasm key sword recreates the legend of the vault filled with the greatest treasures of the world, meaning all the noble phantasms he picked up and was celebrated for having became his.

[nununu]

fucking Heroics Spirit mechanics

[Apple]

GRAAH my mouse pointer keeps jumping and twitching erratically across the screen whenever I move it. It's infuriating. But back to the topic, I acknowledge that Gil is the owner of those weapons.

Will my mouse pointer stop hopping around like that!

[Sherrinford]

GRAAH my mouse pointer keeps jumping and twitching erratically across the screen whenever I move it. It's infuriating.

My mouse used to do the same...

[Apple]

How did you fix it?

[Sherrinford]

How did you fix it?

I think I changed the mouse.

But really, I don't remember. It may have been just a temporary problem.

[Five_X]

How exactly does the "mana recharge" thing work anyways, other than providing porn for the plot? I never really got the mechanics behind it. Or whatever it is.

[Apple]

Master's sperm contains prana, and the servant absorbs it when it enters her body. Simple.

I have no idea how Rin's transferrence of her mana to Shirou in UBW would incorporate this process, though.

[mewarmo990]

Master's sperm contains prana, and the servant absorbs it when it enters her body. Simple.

I have no idea how Rin's transferrence of her mana to Shirou in UBW would incorporate this process, though.

She formed a link/contract between them, probably not unlike Master and Servant prana link. As with the rest of the game, that sex is somehow part of the process is primarily a fanservice contrivance.

Without the sex, it would basically be how it happened in Realta Nua/UBW movie version.

[Aladar]

Sometimes I just think Nasu included all those silly sex prana transfer rules 'cause he needed some sex to justify his work being part of the genre.

Dude probably just wants to tell his story.

[Five_X]

What makes magical jizz any better than the regular, passive energy supplied by a Master/Servant contract, anyhow?

[Aladar]

It's direct contact and thus stronger?

[Apple]

It's one of the gametes that makes the baby magus. If there wasn't enough, then the kid would probably never develop properly as a mage.

[Tobias]

well, there was that whole business about how mana tended to collect in the semen, so poor male magi could actually sell their semen for a profit, though I am not entirely sure what for.

[Counterguardian]

So if you're a magus, you can pretty much make a living by watching porn and fapping all day.

That's the dream.

[I3uster]

Maybe they use it for rituals, like Rin uses her jewel in the Servant summoning, squeezing a little Prana out of it.

[Tobias]

say, this came up in the regalia thread and I actually want to get a larger opinion, how well could saber fight bare handed if she had to, for whatever reason?

the 3 views that came up were

1) one person said bare handed conflict might have been a violation of knightly honor, so she would be ineffectual

2) one said between her prana burst not discriminating about ranking up her stats and her instincts basically telling her what to do in a fight she would be skilled, if not amazing

3) the last person went back to an older Arthurian legend about king arthur killing a giant with his bare hands.

[terraablaze]

1) one person said bare handed conflict might have been a violation of knightly honor, so she would be ineffectual

I am tempted to just say "stupid shit" and leave it at that, this honestly baffles me. Why would you be restricted from punching people in chivalry? sarcasm I guess wrestling was never a popular sport in England that was considered ideal for men at arms to learn. Sorry Robin Hood/sarcasm

2) one said between her prana burst not discriminating about ranking up her stats and her instincts basically telling her what to do in a fight she would be skilled, if not amazing

3) the last person went back to an older Arthurian legend about king arthur killing a giant with his bare hands.

Any situation in which she fights hand to hand would probably look more like this, she wouldn't have amazing form as modern people would be looking for but she should get the job done.

Edit: doing some quick research there were occasional bans on knights fist fighting in Germany by a prince or two but I would hardly call it universal, so yeah maybe not completely unfounded for but I don't see Saber going "nope" and refusing to fight because of a ban that may have only applied to street fighting and bar fights not battlefields and legal duels.

Edit2: in the 14th century French knights were trained in unarmed combat despite it considered ungentlemanly. Still seems like a 6th-8th century Celtic warrior king wouldn't have these problems, even one who has been made retroactivly chivalrous.

[eddyak]

Yeah, I remember something about knights having been trained not only in swordplay, but boxing as well. At the very least, she could put up a fight. Especially wearing those steel gauntlets.