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[Peanut-007]

Sure? It's a copy, not the actual moon.

We also have no idea how powerful it actually is.

Also dropping the moon would be a life wipe not destroy the entire planet.

[Asunder]

Literally everything you listed is entirely situational. So I bet Gil must be weaksauce because he was beaten by a magus. And I don't remember Type Uranus and Neptune being defeated.

How have you not gotten that Humanity is the kickass protagonist of the nasuverse capable of beating enemies that should be unbeatable. And what does 'entirely situational' even mean? The fact that the types were even there was situational, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

[Blastedspider]

Sure? It's a copy, not the actual moon.

Hm.
Englighten me about that please. I think a year ago I've seen someone (maybe Dartz) who digged up evidence from Tsukihime that it was an actual moon. Was it disproven?

[Siriel]

Because 7 of those Grand Servants are required to defeat things like fully incarnated Angra Mainyu and Primate Murder. Not 1 or 6, but 7.

Fanon 2: Fanon Harder.

[Embrace tophats]

I honestly think Gil could beat types and Solomon is almost certinaly less powerful then him.

let's not go that far for now

[Siriel]

Hm.
Englighten me about that please. I think a year ago I've seen someone (maybe Dartz) who digged up evidence from Tsukihime that it was an actual moon. Was it disproven?

It says it's a mirror image in the answer to the question about how the fight went.

[Elthanes]

Also dropping the moon would be a life wipe not destroy the entire planet.

I really doubt it would wipe out life.

[Blastedspider]

Because 7 of those Grand Servants are required to defeat things like fully incarnated Angra Mainyu and Primate Murder. Not 1 or 6, but 7.

Well, we know that Servants vary in strength greatly. Assuming that the only difference betweeb normal Servant and Grand Servant is a scale, we must conclude that some Grand Servants should boast power on the level of several Grand Servants. Also, Primare Murder +Altroughde is most likely stronger than Crimson Moon an Altrouge is probably on the level of regular Servant.

[Desuclocker]

I honestly think Gil could beat types and Solomon is almost certinaly less powerful then him.

All we can say now is that Solomon is superior to any Gil we've seen yet, but Gil has a primordial form he doesn't want to use which would probably boost him even higher than that.

[Peanut-007]

let's not go that far for now

Is Solomon a heroic spirit? If so he is weaker then Gil. That's how Gil works.

[Embrace tophats]

You have to remember that Crimson Moon is, what, the second strongest Type?

wait? really? i am not extremely disappointed in anything type related

[Peanut-007]

All we can say now is that Solomon is superior to any Gil we've seen yet, but Gil has a primordial form he doesn't want to use which would probably boost him even higher than that.

I was referring to CCC power up Gil when I said I thiught he could beat types.

[Siriel]

Well, we know that Servants vary in strength greatly. Assuming that the only difference betweeb normal Servant and Grand Servant is a scale, we must conclude that some Grand Servants should boast power on the level of several Grand Servants. Also, Primare Murder +Altroughde is most likely stronger than Crimson Moon an Altrouge is probably on the level of regular Servant.

Also nothing in GO says anything about Primate Murder or Angra Mainyu. It's just people speculating on what the unmentioned threat is.

[Desuclocker]

I was referring to CCC power up Gil when I said I thiught he could beat types.

Oh okay.

[Dartz]

That might be seen as circumstantial advantage he has on Earth. Now assume if the fight happens on Io or Titan, do you really think he can drop thr moon there?

The falling moon is an application of his Reality Marble. Unless he can't make his RM expand on another planet, then sure.

Well, if they destroyed most of the Leaves of Yggdrasil, which was their objective IIRC, but not all of it, we can safely assume something made them stop, which pretty much means they were defeated through some means. Also, how was Ado Edem killing 2 Types situational? Not to mention that my point in the first two examples was that Types have a glaring weakness called "concepts" that allows others to beat them despite being vastly weaker.

Many things could have happened and not all of them points to them being defeated. Because Ado Edem is good at killing large enemies, he didn't stand out in the battle against A-Rays. Black Barrel sure didn't do anything to Type Saturn, as did every other being on the planet at the time sans Ado Edem.

[Embrace tophats]

All we can say now is that Solomon is superior to any Gil we've seen yet, but Gil has a primordial form he doesn't want to use which would probably boost him even higher than that.

except Strange Fake Gil, which can apparently catch up to an arrow that was unable to be shot down by an Urukian defense grid that shoots lightning bolts and can do the same shit it did to IH to the Gaia RM

[madarra]

Ok, fine. Let's go with that. You realize this is still an strawman argument because 1. no details as to how it happened and 2. the planet doesn't react to humans trying to kill it. We already have an example of an anti-planet NP and it's orders of magnitude more powerful than anti-humanity NP. I don't know why this is even an argument.



Because 7 of those Grand Servants are required to defeat things like fully incarnated Angra Mainyu and Primate Murder. Not 1 or 6, but 7.

maybe it takes 7 cuz Primate Murder has Authority, Types dont have authority, they might be weak to it too

[Blastedspider]

It says it's a mirror image in the answer to the question about how the fight went.

Then it is possible to argue that we have no confirmation that mirror imafe of the moon is full equivalent of an actual moon.
Also, just because one Type could have copied his celestial body does not mean that others can. They just belong in the same group, that does not mean that they all have similiar abilities, or that they are even on the same scale power-wise.

[Siriel]

maybe it takes 7 cuz Primate Murder has Authority,

Let's make speculations about the speculation wheee.

[Peanut-007]

The falling moon is an application of his Reality Marble. Unless he can't make his RM expand on another planet, then sure.



Many things could have happened and not all of them points to them being defeated. Because Ado Edem is good at killing large enemies, he didn't stand out in the battle against A-Rays. Black Barrel sure didn't do anything to Type Saturn, as did every other being on the planet at the time sans Ado Edem.

What about tue six sisters? Honestly Notes power levels are a huge mess of assumptions and people hitting outside their weightclass.