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    Oh hey, this topic dawned on me another realization. Brain of a planet =/= Type. What with the Moon Cell being Type Moon in Extra but Brain of the Moon being a separate thing in another entry and in Tsuki no Sango. This is good, since quite frankly, being the planet's brain beats being a Type anyday, the later are still just pawns.
    The priest was waiting for the arrival of the princess, who was only an enemy of all of them.
    For the priest, the golden princess was the one and only main heroine.
    Everyone else was unworthy of his respect, no matter how strong they were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    Yeah, I don't know why people insist on taking everything literally and acting like literary devices have no place in literary writing.
    too many instruction manuals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dartz View Post
    Oh hey, this topic dawned on me another realization. Brain of a planet =/= Type. What with the Moon Cell being Type Moon in Extra but Brain of the Moon being a separate thing in another entry and in Tsuki no Sango. This is good, since quite frankly, being the planet's brain beats being a Type anyday, the later are still just pawns.
    Q: Is there any relationship between the Moon Cell and the Crimson Moon? Does the Moon Cell exist in universes outside of EXTRA?
    A: Moon cell is something that is only in EXTRA, and it does not have anything to do with the Crimson Moon. However, in the world of EXTRA, the "Brain of the Planet" who is equivalent to the Crimson Moon should still be living somewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dartz View Post
    Oh hey, this topic dawned on me another realization. Brain of a planet =/= Type. What with the Moon Cell being Type Moon in Extra but Brain of the Moon being a separate thing in another entry and in Tsuki no Sango. This is good, since quite frankly, being the planet's brain beats being a Type anyday, the later are still just pawns.
    But that's not good, it's quite terrible for the poor Types.
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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
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    That doesn't contradict anything I said, since Moon Cell is the Type of the Moon in Extra.

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    But that's not good, it's quite terrible for the poor Types.
    True, but it brings me some peace of mind since I no longer have to suffer with people underming AE.
    The priest was waiting for the arrival of the princess, who was only an enemy of all of them.
    For the priest, the golden princess was the one and only main heroine.
    Everyone else was unworthy of his respect, no matter how strong they were.

    Tsukihime 2 Prelude III

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    I'm inclined to believe that Nasu was just waxing poetic there, given that it only says that's what it would be "called" and not what it is, and that the Moon Cell literally being Type Moon in the original draft of EXTRA was one of the things that made him freak the fuck out and rewrite the entire game himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dartz View Post

    True, but it brings me some peace of mind since I no longer have to suffer with people underming AE.
    But by your own admission, Arc is brainless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mewarmo990 View Post
    But by your own admission, Arc is brainless.
    That describes Arc pretty well tbh

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    funny vamp xd

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    the Moon Cell literally being Type Moon in the original draft of EXTRA was one of the things that made him freak the fuck out and rewrite the entire game himself
    lol where was this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dartz View Post
    That doesn't contradict anything I said, since Moon Cell is the Type of the Moon in Extra.
    Yes it does. You were implying that Type =/= Brain of the Planet. Yes that is true as per the Moon Cell, but the opposite can also be true.
    Type and Brain of the Planet are not mutually exclusive terms. You can be one or the other or both both or be none.
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    That's exaggerating my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    Having the capacity doesn't necessarily mean they did though, unless that entry was loosely translated. (Regarding Types killing everything on their planet.)
    Nah that entry doesn't say that at all, it says each of them has the capacity to wipe out humans, and that they are the strongest of their planet, not that they wiped out their own planet. So theoretically there could be aliens from mars or whatev.



    What she actually says is that only a planet could receive the call of a planet, and that the Types were "the strongest life forms of those planets who received the will of (Gaia)". The planets received Gaia's will, not the Types.

    Which fits fine with the entry saying that Type-Saturn received orders from Saturn the planet and transmitted it to the other Types.

    Nowhere there does V/V says anything about being a planet, nor does the entry says it. Only the non-omniscient narrator does and it doesn't have to be literal due to context.
    She said 'we received the will of Gaia' implying she received the message ah wait I misread.

    Also I think that entry is somewhat flawed becuase in another entry we have

    Explanation 02: Heaven’s Corpse (Type:Venus)
    The Ultimate One of Venus.
    A carnivorous plant about 1 kilometer in length. Its form is similar to that of a fish with a pair of giant trees growing on its back, but as it is hidden in the sea of clouds no one has records ascertaining this.
    Type:Venus flew to Earth after the other Aristoteles launched their attack, and for a long time it simply drifted around inside the sea of clouds.
    After staying harmless for a while, it finished its task of exploring and selecting the ideal seed bed, and finally began its descent.

    Its real form is rooted into the earth, and its countless spores (Angel-type Predacious Terminals) spread and seeded themselves into the environment. If it were to reach the earth while alive, it would signify the end of all species on Earth.
    …Because it is a parasitic Aristoteles, it could even “absorb” the concept of Liners.


    Source: Source/notes. (From Tsukihime Dokuhon)
    A spirited, earnest, airheaded XXXXXXX who is in love with love.
    The command that she was input with was “Earth Predation”, but the answer she came up with was “I love everyone living here”. She was really a hopeless individual.

    Aah. Thou art the incurable disease known as love.
    It seems V/V only ever really got one order, as a parasitic organism find the ideal spot and poison the earth to kill it all by poisoning everything, but she got killed during her descent and that order as she claims it was from Gaia/her planet (though, who knows if this was a message from Saturn or if it was when she left the planet).
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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    Yes it does. You were implying that Type =/= Brain of the Planet. Yes that is true as per the Moon Cell, but the opposite can also be true.
    Type and Brain of the Planet are not mutually exclusive terms. You can be one or the other or both both or be none.
    True, but as of now the only Type confirmed as brain of a planet is CM, which fits considering his sentience and high degree of intelligence. We can't say the same of the other Types who are shown to be more like mindless kiling machines.
    The priest was waiting for the arrival of the princess, who was only an enemy of all of them.
    For the priest, the golden princess was the one and only main heroine.
    Everyone else was unworthy of his respect, no matter how strong they were.

    Tsukihime 2 Prelude III

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dartz View Post
    True, but as of now the only Type confirmed as brain of a planet is CM, which fits considering his sentience and high degree of intelligence. We can't say the same of the other Types who are shown to be more like mindless kiling machines.
    However, it's still a point you have to take into consideration moving forward. Considering we know that different works can have different sets of Types.
    Type =/= Brain of the Planet is not just a definitive blanket statement you can make.
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    Moon Cell being an eye and not a brain isnt necessarily making a comparison to something else in TM that is a brain. It can just be a standalone explanation of "here's why the big computer usually doesn't try to kill people"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dartz View Post
    That doesn't contradict anything I said, since Moon Cell is the Type of the Moon in Extra.
    Are you referring to this part?
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    後に、この夢を映すだけの水晶体はこう呼ばれる。 月の眼。 底なしのクラインキューブ。 この星の全てを読み上げた、持ち主のいないタイプ・ ムーンと。
    To me it sounds like Nasu chose to call it Type-Moon as in "Shit I wrote like a whole page worth of stuffs above, not sure if anyone even read it all so TLDR it's the eye of the moon, the bottomless Klein Cube, the eye that reflect dreams, the ownerless Type-Moon or w/e"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    I'm inclined to believe that Nasu was just waxing poetic there, given that it only says that's what it would be "called" and not what it is
    Yeah this IMO.

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    I for one I'm happy with snowflake Type CM.

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    ^Yes, but it doesn't really matter in the end since there is still reasons to believe CM is special among Types. At least among the Types we have been shown.
    The priest was waiting for the arrival of the princess, who was only an enemy of all of them.
    For the priest, the golden princess was the one and only main heroine.
    Everyone else was unworthy of his respect, no matter how strong they were.

    Tsukihime 2 Prelude III

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    Are all Phantasmal Beasts effective biologically immortal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoArcDragonhound View Post
    Are all Phantasmal Beasts effective biologically immortal?
    i mean considering they don't even work biologically, I guess so?
    unless you mean something else when you mean "biologically immortal?"
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    I think he means that they don't die with age, just advance categories like D&D dragons.

    Because head removal is a perfectly biological cause of death.
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