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    Hey, ok didn't kotomine train for years in magic going to near mastery and then going onto another magic? So why don't we see him using like tons of magic in his fights in the holy grail.

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    And also didn't emiya learn how to use projection from kritsugu notes on project. So does that mean that kirsugu could use projection?

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    And is projection like a rare skill Thats extremely powerful or something? Fate didn't really go into projection a whole lot.

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    Hey, ok didn't kotomine train for years in magic going to near mastery and then going onto another magic? So why don't we see him using like tons of magic in his fights in the holy grail.

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    And also didn't emiya learn how to use projection from kritsugu notes on project. So does that mean that kirsugu could use projection?

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    And is projection like a rare skill Thats extremely powerful or something? Fate didn't really go into projection a whole lot.
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    No, Kotomine trained under Tokiomi and the breadth of his education included a bunch of stuff, but he's pointed out to just be good at the healing stuff. It's like teaching Shirou something, he might understand and be able to use the knowledge, but he's not going to use necromancy when he has no talent for it.

    And likewise, Shirou learned general stuff from Kiritsugu, but Kiritsugu wasn't even a practicing mage anymore.

    And projection is a rare skill that nobody uses because it's useless except for ritualistic crap that you can just figure out other ways around for what it would be useful for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by venomking View Post
    Hey, ok didn't kotomine train for years in magic going to near mastery and then going onto another magic? So why don't we see him using like tons of magic in his fights in the holy grail.

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    And also didn't emiya learn how to use projection from kritsugu notes on project. So does that mean that kirsugu could use projection?

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    And is projection like a rare skill Thats extremely powerful or something? Fate didn't really go into projection a whole lot.
    projection is like a party trick
    the cheese fondue of magecraft

    as for kotomine
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    According to the magecraft teaching result reports obtained from Tōsaka Tokiomi, Kotomine Kirei’s tutelage of magecraft had not progressed beyond the degree of a beginner. His most outstanding skill was spiritual healing. If he were to use any effective magecraft during battle, then the only predictable one would be physical enhancement; his most adept skill, used to exert even greater physical strength.

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    Ok I see, for emiya projection is only useful to him, since he can project NPs, is that it?

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    It isn't even that he can project nps, its that they actually have functionality at all. Projection just creates an image, it doesn't create a lasting, useful object. But even the pots and pans in his shed stick around.

    Please read the visual novel for further information.
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    So, is emiya like the only Mage who if they used projection would be able to project an NP? Or is that also something a Normal Mage could do?

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    "----That's impossible.
    I can't use projection magic. There's no way I can teach you about something I don't understand."


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    Could archer project armor? Like could he project the armor Gilgamesh used in fate zero?

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    wouldnt say projection is a rare skill tbh
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    Quote Originally Posted by venomking View Post
    Could archer project armor? Like could he project the armor Gilgamesh used in fate zero?
    Yes, as long as said armor is not god forged.

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    I thought the limits excluded items created by the gods for other gods, items that are considered EX rank (though approval by owner overwrites this), and things like Ea. Too lazy to check the mcdoc though.

    As for the other stuff, read F/Z for the Kotomine question, and F/SN for the others.
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    What does the non-Tenka Fubu version of Innovation do.
    Or is it a mats question

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ail Don View Post
    What does the non-Tenka Fubu version of Innovation do.
    Or is it a mats question
    no one knows
    yet

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    Iirc its even not innovation anymore in go?
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    I replayed Extra recently with Archer. He describes True Ancestors as being the will of the stars and similarly Rani says that TAs are the stars themselves. Is this new lore or did the translators simply translate 星 as stars instead of "the planet/world"?

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    Obviously the latter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lolly Battory View Post
    I replayed Extra recently with Archer. He describes True Ancestors as being the will of the stars and similarly Rani says that TAs are the stars themselves. Is this new lore or did the translators simply translate 星 as stars instead of "the planet/world"?
    it's planet.

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    Guess it's irony that Kotomine is excellent at healing.

    As for Projection, I wonder if an acceptable use of it for a magecraft user is to deceive people like that guy in that movie Push. Like illusions except there's better magecraft for that.

    Shirou should have just joined the Yakuza and been a counterfeiter.

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    Was it ever mentioned whether or not Kiritsugu used reinforcement on his guns?
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