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[Hyperversum]

For Vlad in particular, he is summoned in his aspect of king in Romania, where that aspect has the most fame

Basically, we are give no absolute version? I mean, clearly when he is summoned in his "strongest position" he should be summoned in his original form, but outside of it (simply, the HGW in Fuyuki) he SURELY will be the Extra version?

[madarra]

Basically, we are give no absolute version? I mean, clearly when he is summoned in his "strongest position" he should be summoned in his original form, but outside of it (simply, the HGW in Fuyuki) he SURELY will be the Extra version?

arent Mooncell summoning rules basically, that servants pick you.And in the case of Baby-eating clown the only people to respond were Crazy Vlad and Elizabeth

[castor212]

there could be other pages (versions of Servant Vlad) from the book (Heroic Spirit Vlad)

[Hyperversum]

I remember the same, but I played it a long time ago.

My point was more a "classical universe": simply, a mage has something to summon Vlad III in the 4th HGW in Fuyuki. What comes out of it?
It depends on the psychology of the Master? Maybe about what he knows of Vlad?

Probably we don't know, but it was interesting lol.

[Mazyrian]

I think with Vlad the "default" would be extra version? Apo version was exceptional because in his homeland he is remembered as a national hero, protector of the land, but in the rest of the world his bloody aspect is more remembered so that is summoned
(also there is the apo version as a berserker, who embraces his vampire powers)

[castor212]

Its Fuyuki,, not Romania, so i guess Innocent Monster Vlad

e: sniped

[AvengerEmiya]

If Shirou and Angelica bang, would that count as Gilgamesh route?

[asterism42]

No, because she doesn't have the Gil card anymore.

[GundamFSN]

If Shirou and Angelica bang, would that count as Gilgamesh route?

Pai's Wrath route.

[Raylen Cypher]

Pai's Wrath route.

he can just project himself onto shirou

[castor212]

i thought he likes NTR

[GundamFSN]

he can just project himself onto shirou

Then there'd be no trace of his old self.

i thought he likes NTR

I guess he did mention something along that line, huh.

[Raylen Cypher]

and overhead flies the joke

[GundamFSN]

At least I replied in joke!

[Raylen Cypher]

Then there'd be no trace of his old self.

Oh wow, nevermind, how the hell did I miss that.

[You]

Yeah but does Ea have a prototype?

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Because the question was if there's a Noble Phantasm that Gil doesn't have the prototype of.

What if Ea is the prototype

[Arha]

Is there any NP that was explicitly stated to not have its prototype in Gate of Babylon ?

I dont remember there is, since most of the time the answers is "some NP is not in it but its prototype is in it" and "Gil doesn't even know everything he has inside the treasury"

I thought it was confirmed outside of CCC that Vasavi Shakti is so super special secret awesome that it's not inside Gate of Babylon. I think it was confirmed in connection to Apocrypha?

[Altaris]

No in CCC Gil said something to a degree of "His spear is a rare article of beauty that none has laid eyes upon. It was secretive because there was no record of it being used (hello Ghatotkacha ?!?). I don't know if I have a NP with similar performance within my treasury"

and then he snaps at you for asking why he doesn't know because his treasure is way too big

[Arha]

Nah it was a different comment than that. It came a lot later. I'm looking at the quote and it's apparently from Fate/Apocrypha material. Unless that was mistranslated.

The entry is on this page under Vasavi Shakti.

[Altaris]

Yeah but the point of what I'm asking is that if Gil has a prototype to Vasavi Shakti, not that he has it inside his vault or not

We already know VS is not in his vault