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    Why would you need a true magic to do something as boring as mind reading?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asunder View Post
    Why would you need a true magic to do something as boring as mind reading?
    It's not about "need", it's about using the tools available to you. Shooting a lock off with a shotgun is not the most efficient or effective way of opening a door, but if it's the only means you've got then... well, better get shootin'!

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    Mainly though, I'm interested in what kind of spells the Third could be used to cast other then it's core purpose of granting immortality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    complete material 2

    fgo mats also have it
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    It was also in the tl of the Visual Novel if I remember right
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    GO mats has it and ppl thought it's new. Turned out that CM 2 already had it but that part was mistransated.
    Managed to find it, thanks. Always thought that was some classic TM wiki stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    It's not about "need", it's about using the tools available to you. Shooting a lock off with a shotgun is not the most efficient or effective way of opening a door, but if it's the only means you've got then... well, better get shootin'!

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    Mainly though, I'm interested in what kind of spells the Third could be used to cast other then it's core purpose of granting immortality.
    Read the visual novel to find out

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    This just occurred to me last night but if Rule Breaker doesn't affect Projections, then how come it dispelled Darius' mansion (Gradation Air = Projection) in Prisma?

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    >Prisma

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    Shirou's projections are special, Shirou's projections are Noble Phantasms, Rule Breaker can't affect Noble Phantasms, Prisma Ilya is all nonsense and why would you even try to use it as a reference for mechanics in the mainline universe when Hiroyama himself said Nasu told him not to worry about mechanics and just go wild

    Take your pick

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart View Post
    What does the castle have to do with projection
    I don't read Prisma so I forgot that "You just misunderstood what happened in Prisma" was another possibility but there it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart View Post
    What does the castle have to do with projection
    Wasn't it stated that Darius' castle was created through Gradation Air (which is another term for Projection)?

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    Actually looking back on it, you're right. Sorry. I misremembered Flash Air (an entirely different Magecraft) with Gradation Air.

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    Can Legend of Dracula Vlad be considered a vampire that is empowered by human history as opposed to DAs that reject history?

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    How long is a 'turn' when describing Servant abilities?
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    How long does it take you to use skills and pick your cards?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerEmiya View Post
    How long is a 'turn' when describing Servant abilities?
    probably the same amount of time as any rpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceblade44 View Post
    probably the same amount of time as any rpg
    However, do note that this gets complicated fast.

    The d20 system has popularized six-second turns, but way back in time AD&D had a turn be ten minutes (and a melee round one minute and a segment six seconds - don't ask), and there's more granular systems like GURPS where you're talking about individual seconds.


    There's one thing we know for sure, though: thirty turns is probably less than one day, if the Wiki is to be trusted. (I know, I know.)
    The Wiki lists Independent Action E- as letting you stick around for thirty turns, and Independent Action C as keeping you around for a day. It's probably safe to assume that it's significantly less than a day as well, since it's E minus rather than just E.

    If I'd have to guess, I'd probably go for anywhere half a minute to half an hour, probably closer to 3-5 minutes? For thirty turns, that is. Longer estimates would be at five hours, but personally I feel like that's probably unlikely?

    What are there for skills and NPs and whatnot that reference turns, anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by neveron View Post

    If I'd have to guess, I'd probably go for anywhere half a minute to half an hour, probably closer to 3-5 minutes? For thirty turns, that is. Longer estimates would be at five hours, but personally I feel like that's probably unlikely?

    What are there for skills and NPs and whatnot that reference turns, anyway?
    my estimate would be of somewhere around 30 seconds to minute, Since the way it seems that turns seem to a unit for measuring an action it shouldn't be for any longer than that.

    As for the other mentions, while it's not a common thing it does turn up now and then in descriptions. Though I can't immediately come with any examples out of my head except for Iskandar's and Kiyohime's NP descriptions.
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    Kiyohime's Noble Phantasm lasts for one turn.

    She stays in dragon mode for about 4 seconds during her Noble Phantasm in FGO.

    Therefore a turn is approximately 4 seconds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asunder View Post
    Can Legend of Dracula Vlad be considered a vampire that is empowered by human history as opposed to DAs that reject history?
    Ish.
    Like the statement is generally true. He's more powered by the fear. That's why vlad isn't that strong as a heroic spirit. But yeah that's still human history rather than a rejection of human history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    Kiyohime's Noble Phantasm lasts for one turn.

    She stays in dragon mode for about 4 seconds during her Noble Phantasm in FGO.

    Therefore a turn is approximately 4 seconds.
    So if Kiyohime is in Wyoming heading southeast and another Kiyohime is in Maine heading southwest how many turns will occur before they reach Dallas?
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    Hey guys it's me.


    So I finally got around to getting the VN. Everything is in place, and I also got LEGUI to play it. But when I click on "Run in Japanese"...it does just that, the VN is in Japanese. Is there something I'm doing wrong? My faterealtanua_savedata file looks like this:

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    These questions concern Mahoyo material that has not yet been translated.

    What justification(s) does Touko offer, if any, for her attempts to reclaim her inheritance?

    Why did grandpa Aozaki choose Aoko to be the family's heir?


    If anyone who has read the VN can offer an answer, I'd be thrilled.

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