Questions, questions and more questions (READ THE OP FOR ANSWERS)

[mewarmo990]

released Feb 2016

[madarra]

We always knew it worked with thrown weapons, Ryougi throws her hidden arm compartment knife and cut through Araya's barrier in movie 5
The question was how long distance can you get, cuz technically, the Meodp user isnt touching the bullet being fired from the gun,would it work?

The answer to that was in Melty Blood manga,where it seems that MEoDP works even if Tohno Shiki is holding Sion which is holding a gun which is firing a bullet.

[castor212]

wait, so if a MEoDP user tells a guy to stab something "exactly at this point" and not stabbing it himself, it would still die then?

[Desuclocker]

If the user observes the guy stabbing the point, yes.

[forumghost]

If the user observes the guy stabbing the point, yes.

I dunno, Shiki saw Lines where Roa cut him, but his Lines of Death still weren't cut because Roa was cutting different Lines from the ones he saw, even if they were in the same place.

[Tobias]

For however much or little it's worth, in the manga adaptation of melty blood shiki helps sion by taking her hand and aiming the. Lack barrel replica at wallachia's dot

[Ereus]

I forget, can a human 'ascend' to a magical or phantasmal beast/whatever status?
Like I forget if dead apostles count as either, I know vampires like the one in lab count as phantasmal.

[Altima of the Gates]

For however much or little it's worth, in the manga adaptation of melty blood shiki helps sion by taking her hand and aiming the. Lack barrel replica at wallachia's dot

I just got the image of Shiki whispering into Sion's ear, "It's High Noon...." and then she magically gets shot points. Thanks for that.

[Tepanyakigo]

wait wait wait, but isn't Melty Blood Manga canon? I thought it was just a spin off...

As for Rakkyo Movie 5, yeah I totally forgot about that from the sheer epicness

[Hawkeye]

Maybe the eyes work on a sort of Schroedinger's cat uncertainty principle? The lines are only relevant when observed by one with the MEoDP? Just to be clearly, I know virtually nothing of Tsukihime and only watched the KnK movies, so I'm working off very little data, but it seems likely, otherwise, how many people/objects would've mysteriously fallen apart each day by dumb luck of something hitting the lines?

[Lobo]

I found something that my become relevant about Saint Germain: In Theosophy, he is supposed to be one of the Ascended Masters or Masters of the Ancient Wisdom. Is there anything in Helena appearance throught GO that tells us what they are in nasuverse or give us a clue? One disciple of her said they both met in person while Olcott that he possesed her several times (I kinda want to see that meeting in nasuverse though lol)

[Rafflesiac]

It takes an MEoDP user to actualize the lines. Otherwise they don't exist.

[Neir]

Maybe the eyes work on a sort of Schroedinger's cat uncertainty principle? The lines are only relevant when observed by one with the MEoDP? Just to be clearly, I know virtually nothing of Tsukihime and only watched the KnK movies, so I'm working off very little data, but it seems likely, otherwise, how many people/objects would've mysteriously fallen apart each day by dumb luck of something hitting the lines?

I'd wager meodp have to be present for the effect to occur, for the exact reason you mentioned.

also ^

[Laserman]

So I read a passage in Fate/Apocrypha Volume 2 and this stood out to me.

After killing several prostitutes, she then died. It wasn’t due to any significant reason. A certain magus merely noticed that the bizarre murders were crimes done by a demonic being and promptly dealt with her.

Do you find out later who killed Jack in the novels?

[Rafflesiac]

Not that I know of but it was probably Zouken

[Hawkeye]

It takes an MEoDP user to actualize the lines. Otherwise they don't exist.

Good to know. But I always see the argument of what's the range/who can effect the lines, like Sion with the Barrel Replica and Shiki throwing knives and stuff, so what I'm sorta getting at is that, once you've got the per-requisite MEoDP user in range/line of sight, the lines then exist, after which, who/what triggers them becomes kind of irrelevant.

[Mcjon01]

Not that I know of but it was probably Zouken

St. Germain ran her over in his DeLorean on his way to Strange Fake.

[Laserman]

Not that I know of but it was probably Zouken

Good enough for me.

[Tepanyakigo]

Then, the next question is... What happens when MEoDP users close their eyes? Obviously I am not talking about Ryougi who can turn off and on her MEoDP...

Or let's take it into extreme case... If the users become blind, do the lines and dots still exist perceived as something else?

Like "vibration of death" via hearing sense perhaps

[Arashi_Leonhart]

Good to know. But I always see the argument of what's the range/who can effect the lines, like Sion with the Barrel Replica and Shiki throwing knives and stuff, so what I'm sorta getting at is that, once you've got the per-requisite MEoDP user in range/line of sight, the lines then exist, after which, who/what triggers them becomes kind of irrelevant.

The lines only exist as a concept that the person who perceives the lines can interact with. Because they're not actually seeing lines, but the inevitable death of something, which their brains interpret as lines.

Having Shiki trying to guide you to interact with it would be like telling a blind person what color looks like, or a deaf person what sound is like, or Toby what a world without puns is.