"shoot a lot of arrows"Originally Posted by Bobin
"shoot a lot of arrows"
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
warmly awaiting 6* Grand Archer True Arash
[18:00] Spinach: Because I don't like Saber's personality but boy oh boy does she make my dick turn to diamonds when I see her getting tentacled.
[18:01] Leo: feeling superior to EU makes me hard
[16:16] <Bloble> Drakengard? Is that a rhythm game?
Maybe three Command Spells could be used to strengthen him enough to survive. It depends on just how much damage it does to him. It seems from the description that Stella just will always do enough recoil damage to kill him, rather than being some conceptual thing where he needs to die after using it.
i thought it literally kills him, not deals damage
[18:00] Spinach: Because I don't like Saber's personality but boy oh boy does she make my dick turn to diamonds when I see her getting tentacled.
[18:01] Leo: feeling superior to EU makes me hard
[16:16] <Bloble> Drakengard? Is that a rhythm game?
...I wonder if he could survive if someone put Avalon inside him prior to invoking it? Then again, if it destroys the spiritual core directly even that probably wouldn't matter...
I think the condition for him activating in the first place is the destruction of the core or at the very least resigning himself to death.
I mean damage in the sense in that what kills him is using up the entirety of himself to make the shot rather than the condition being that he "needs" to die to use it, at least from how I'm reading the entry. Basically, it depends on if it "enacts death upon Arash no matter his physical condition" or if his physical condition could be boosted to the point where he could conceivably survive it. Even if he did survive, he'd probably end up like Karna in CCC where he's just hanging on by a thread of life and mostly determination.
.It was simple.
Archer/Arash’s Noble Phantasm, according to those legends, would automatically destroy his own Heroic Spirit spiritual core if he performed the activation of his Noble Phantasm.
Therefore, even if he wasn’t Moses who parted the sea, and had a body that wasn’t one of the knight that possessed a famous holy blade as a Divine Construct, he had fired an arrow that was the same as starlight.
Without a bow, without even an arrow.
If there was a Noble Phantasm that was a special move that was fired from his own body, if he was presented as a Servant that was guided by the Holy Grail he’d be automatically given a result as a “Broken Phantasm.”
Even if it had been categorically established as an anti-army Noble Phantasm to the bitter end, the overall generated amount of prana and the effective scope of it would still be anti-country, and it’d be equally ranked with an anti-fortress Noble Phantasm if they were talking about pure power.
But, it was absolutely once.
There were no exceptions.
He’d die if he used it.
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
That doesn't really make it clear if it is some kind of conceptual thing or just that it is so strong that he will always die under any normal circumstance. Is it that the destruction of his spiritual core is a necessary activation method like Karna's armor being removed for his spear, or is it that it produces enough strain that it will always do so under normal conditions? Like in some hypothetical situation where he was hacked by BB to have infinite HP, a set of crazy skills, or something that would conceivably let him withstand the strain, would that override that and destroy his core regardless because he needs to die or will it just do "damage => Arash's consitution" and thus could be withstood with enough constitution?
I'm p. sure it's a concept thing. In his legend the shot was so powerful it destroyed his body therefore whenever he uses it his body will be destroyed.
why would it be called a broken phantasm if he didn't always break.
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
it could be the phantasm of a guy named ken who loved hitting the gym?
his name is brah
everyone's name in the gym is brah
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
avalon doesn't work that way.
only works on Saber
Even with shirou, who had the fucking thing inside him for 10 years, it didn't do shit except keep him from getting sick until Saber showed up. and even THEN, it just provides healing, doesn't stop you from dying.
[18:00] Spinach: Because I don't like Saber's personality but boy oh boy does she make my dick turn to diamonds when I see her getting tentacled.
[18:01] Leo: feeling superior to EU makes me hard
[16:16] <Bloble> Drakengard? Is that a rhythm game?
And IIRC in one bad ending it's actually the thing that kills Shirou by replacing his internal organs with swords?
He dies in a lot of endings, anyhow. Avalon saves him from some ludicrous shit, but it's not perfect.
Shirou actually has two things healing him in F/SN IIRC.
One is Avalon obviously, (which is what fixes him after he gets Heracles'd at the start of Fate/HF) but the other is actually UBW, which 'heals' him by shoving swords into the missing/broken parts to try and hold him together- which is obvious about the worst form of 'healing' imaginable, but when all you have is a Hammer...
I always took it as Stella is a shot fired with the entirety of Arash's strenght,so it kills him.
Make his body stonger,and that strenght will just be used on a stronger Stella.
En't there a bad ending where he gets skewered because of this after falling out a window?
Exactly. Trying to fix the hole in your brain by sticking a Sword there?
They say Archer's projections from extra are degradations from the original while the FSN's one are lower quality NP whose properties and shapes are similar, so why did they said that, are projections from the extra one more powerful or something like that?
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