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    Can Avalon negate Medusa's Mystic Eyes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Levnekov View Post
    Can Avalon negate Medusa's Mystic Eyes?
    Avalon negates everything, it's the ultimate cheat.
    "Only in my company, will you not be a monster"


    anywhere than here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceblade44 View Post
    Avalon negates everything, it's the ultimate cheat.
    Like, does it stop it completely from being able to begin to petrify the wielder?

    Sorry if this sounds kinda stupid

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    Avalon shields you, effectively, in your own little pocket dimension. Not being in the same dimension as the Mystic Eyes seem likely to be an effective counter to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seika View Post
    Avalon shields you, effectively, in your own little pocket dimension. Not being in the same dimension as the Mystic Eyes seem likely to be an effective counter to them.
    Ah, thanks.

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    You know considering, would Vlad's Kazikli Bey still work on Artoria as long as he hit her before Avalon activated?
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    Answer unclear, ask again later.

    I wouldn't be surprised if disappearing off to Avalon removed the foundation of the curse and thereby dissipated it, or something.
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    i think if avalon can block parallel world stuff
    and dimension stuff
    then "YOU ARE MAH DOMAIN" scratch shouldn't be an issue

    a more interesting question would be if you can still hit hippogriff after scratching him when he jumps.
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    I have many questions that remain unclear sadly, sometimes this just make wish I had a friend in TM so I can perfect my headcanon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    i think if avalon can block parallel world stuff
    and dimension stuff
    then "YOU ARE MAH DOMAIN" scratch shouldn't be an issue

    a more interesting question would be if you can still hit hippogriff after scratching him when he jumps.
    But she is bringing that "domain" with her into her isolated pocket. From what it describes, doesn't it block parallel world and dimension attacks that are outside Avalon's dimension? If it's already inside, then it shouldn't be able to protect her.

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    "Hey Hanging Gardens. I know you have your own territory that has only shown an effect on the Impaler's outer stakes, but I believe my man Vlad III can still enact his Skewered effect upon the enemy he strikes. Thanks for listening!"

    Unfortunately, since this effect was never tested outside of Vlad's territory, we can't discern if this ability is just something he possesses regardless of territory for as long as he lands a strike with his own spear, or if it is dependent on him and/or his opponent being in his territory. As I couldn't find any description of this ability dependent on his own territory, and its more like the act of creating a new territory in a sense, I believe it can still work regardless of which territory he is on. So if Avalon brings Artoria inside, it won't change the fact that "she is in a state of being skewered while being brought inside Avalon's territory."

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    Karna was hit before they fought in the Hanging Gardens and Vlad still couldn't do shit to him anymore.

    “These Hanging Gardens are the domain ruled by our camp’s Assassin. It’s not your territory. In other words—as long as you are within these gardens, you aren’t the great patriotic hero who saved his country.”

    Assassin of Red’s Noble Phantasm, Hanging Gardens of Babylon, was a fortress Noble Phantasm that ruled a defined domain. To put it another way, that place wasn’t Romania where Vlad III was revered as a hero. Accordingly, the level of his fame became equal to zero.
    I'm pretty sure if Karna without the benefit of it being "his" domain that is countering the curse works, then Avalon being most definitely a Saber-aligned place will.

    I mean, even the just-healing version is supposed to counter Gae Bolg's curse, so full on I'm-not-even-here is going to be more powerful.

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    In your example above, I think it depends if that effect wears off after the stakes manifested per each number of hit. Karna was hit three times, then three stakes appeared from within. Does that mean Vlad has to reapply them with more hits afterwards? Cause if it was a permanent effect, then Vlad can simply keep manifesting stakes and end Karna right there and now. And I assume Karna was burning the stakes not to burn away that conceptual effect, but to burn away the stakes already there that are impeding him physically while repelling the outer stakes coming towards him.

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    I think you get staked how many times he hits you.
    Otherwise why wouldn't vlad just continuously inside stake karna?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clyton View Post
    But she is bringing that "domain" with her into her isolated pocket. From what it describes, doesn't it block parallel world and dimension attacks that are outside Avalon's dimension? If it's already inside, then it shouldn't be able to protect her.
    nah arashi is right
    “You guessed quickly. Yes, my Kaziklu Bey: Lord of Execution isn’t a Noble Phantasm that creates stakes. It’s the ‘stakes stabbed into the enemy’ themselves that are the Noble Phantasm. As long as you’re within this territory of mine, no matter how much you fortify your body, if it is a fact that you have received an attack from me—”
    Within Lancer of Red’s body, something was swelling up with violent force. Hard, sharp, repulsively cold, it was—

    “Stakes, huh…”

    The golden armor that clad Karna’s body could protect against stakes, blades, hammers, or any kind of attack regardless of whether it was physical or magical. However—attacks from within his body were a single exception. Furthermore, these stakes were manifesting in the state of already having pierced him.
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
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    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
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    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Is the reason why Chiron and Scathach are incompatible with each other as teachers because Chiron is the "Everyone Gets Gold-Stars" teacher, while Scathach is the "Sink-or-Swim" teacher? We seen enough of Scathach of understand that this is her mentality, but I can't really confirm this about Chiron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoArcDragonhound View Post
    Is the reason why Chiron and Scathach are incompatible with each other as teachers because Chiron is the "Everyone Gets Gold-Stars" teacher, while Scathach is the "Sink-or-Swim" teacher? We seen enough of Scathach of understand that this is her mentality, but I can't really confirm this about Chiron.
    p much
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Ahh I see, thanks for that snippet!

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    Sink or swim but she makes you hold a really heavy weight first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    Sink or swim but she makes you hold a really heavy weight first.
    While at the same time using your floating body for Javelin practice.
    "Only in my company, will you not be a monster"


    anywhere than here

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