Why are you stating the obvious? Amaterasu and Tamamo has identical powerlvl and both are stronger than full power Saver only if they are rocking Buddha saint graph duh. That's why Kiara called Tamamo her chief god in CCC, she wants to reach that level. But we're not discussing that atm, it's just extra info I gave 8000.
Yes he is OP, but considering the servant roster, there are quite an amount of those who can resist his NP. So all things considered Gil is still the stronger one as he can counter much more servants, including the divine/monster servants who can resist Saver's NP due to not being human.Saver on the other hand is honestly really OP, even if he's nerfed as a Servant compared to normal.
Last edited by Lily Emilio; November 12th, 2017 at 04:21 AM.
Fragment? Where did you get that from? It's called bunrei dude. Bunrei is pretty much a clone of the original. Tamamo is basically Amaterasu Alter. Extella material even stated that Amaterasu power is 387,420,489, the identical number of 9 tails Tamamo. And you don't even need that number to know since Extra material already said Vairocana = Amaterasu = Dakini-ten (Tamamo) and even dropped a line saying "Uh Casko-san, your cult is pretty weird, is it gonna be fine?".
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You got trolled by Aksys translation of the term, buddy.
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Gilgamesh isnt strongest Servant tho. He is strongest Hs.
saver aint HS. And so arent plenty of other stupidly op servants.
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Im going for a leg here and just gonna say that I had always assume that if Tamae meditate for 404 years or however is needed and go 9 tails, she would transform to a texhnically different being than the recorded Heroic Spirit Tamamo no Mae.
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Maybe
Twice called him 救世の英霊 tho.
1000 years was the number given in FGO iirc. In CCC she just said she did sage training for thousands years, whatever that means. Since budget is limited they didn't show how she looks with 9 tails when she traveled back in time to 1shot Moon Cell, but from the way she talks she's still the normal Tamamo, but with Amaterasu's authorities. Right after that she cut off the 8 tails cuz the tails might affect her and revert her to Amaterasu persona or something, if you go by the FGO interlude. So it's probably: servant Tamamo -> obtain 9 tails -> servant saint graph became god saint graph -> did stuffs then cut off the tails -> god saint graph returned to servant saint graph. Kinda like the whole Tiamat saint graph stuffs if you think about it.Im going for a leg here and just gonna say that I had always assume that if Tamae meditate for 404 years or however is needed and go 9 tails, she would transform to a texhnically different being than the recorded Heroic Spirit Tamamo no Mae.
i honestly think Buddha, going by the description in extra, really is outside the scope of the Throne and much bigger than that
im kinda thinking, like, if tamae's a HS due to record, the HS part probs like, only record the stuffs she did post her reincarnation to human until she died in that field, so as Servant she obviously still is connected to her divine origin, but godly stuffs that she does or godliness state that she can reach into probs doesnt count in the record of Heroic Spirit Tamamo no Mae and plus with how her 9 tails godly form is like so much bigger than that
or smtg
is my headcanon lol
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but they have budget to make all those swimsuit's 3d model
tis bulshit, says I
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When you make the meaning of curse like that, it's meaning that you have it whether you like it or not, which would apply with Herc or Sakura in that form.
Basically healing in situations where you probably wish you had just died and gotten it over with.
I guess the meaning in arts like this would be esoteric type magic that let's you do things like maybe Orochimaru? Like, sure, it's got positive effects, but it seems slightly iffy from say a blessing or such. Like healing someone by energy draining someone else and it using negative energy.
I guess maybe using it by saying healing with negative energy spells vs. positive energy spells might work better.
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Do I have to quote this from the material every time then?
Do I also have to quote this?Originally Posted by extra material
I am a Buddhist following Theravada Buddhism, we worship Gautama Buddha and Nyorai. Our stance is that no Buddhas are superior to to the other. They are all the same. But that doesn't mean I should ignore the Shingon Buddhism school belief that was literally given to the audience by Mister Kinoko Nasu in the material book. If you think that I am saying a fictional character in a series being superior to the Buddha I worship IRL because I am bias when the information regarding Vaircana you can even google:Originally Posted by shinbutsu-shugo wiki page
...then you actually offended me in a way. But it doesn't matter anyway, I get this kind of skeptical comments alot.Originally Posted by Vairocana wikipedia page
Buddhism always have a very straight stance that there is no creator god, but they never said there are no deities (classified as Devas and Ten 天 - means heaven) or that deities cannot be Buddhas. That's why you have those like Sun Wukong becoming the Victorious Buddha in JTTW, or Xuanzang being the 2nd disciple of Nyorai (the source of her Divinity in nasuverse).
To us Buddhists, deities in other religions are equivalent beings of devas and Ten who still couldn't reach nirvana and free from karma. But obviously that line of thought is very offensive to the people of those religions. Therefore we had to compromise through syncretism. The 12 chief Hindu deities became guardians of Buddhism. Indra for example is called Taishakuten and widely worshipped in pagddas in Vietnam here. When spreading to Japan it also had to make peace with the local religions: Shinto. So you have syncretism attemps. Susanoo became syncretized with Indra/Taishakuten and Gozu Tennou was created. Amenominakanushi (the first kami who gave birth to the universe in Shinto) became Varuna/Suiten. Amaterasu became Vairocana and Dakini-ten. And that's where you have Shingon Buddhism stuffs. I didn't even know that was a thing until I read the material about Kiara's sex cult and tried to understand why Kiara called Tamamo her chief god and felt ashamed being scolded by Tamamo. That led me into extended researches on other Buddhism schools outside of my own.
Regardless, in the context of Nasuverse Bodhisattvas are deities of cosmic scale, and Bodhisattvas are Buddha candidates. Kannon for example can actually go to nirvana and join the other Buddhas there, but he/she (depends on which part of Asian you talk about) decided to stay behind and help all suffering beings.
It does. Because that's the scale when she unseals all of the power, which she pretty much did in CCC and achieved what BB or Velber tried to do in an instant without any problem. I don't know why exactly you keep saying "sealing power" when all I talked about is when she unsealed all power, as Amaterasu's bunrei.
And again, the word is bunrei, not fragment. Tamamo is a clone of Amaterasu so as a matter of fact they have same scaling. I don't think I need to continuously repeat myself on this, you can search the FGO story and lore page for the extended multiple pages of bunrei discussions.
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And we're NOT talking about that. We're talking about mythology. We're talking about when Tamamo regains 9 tails form that puts her on Amaterasu scale which she literally did in CCC for a quick moment, as a deus ex machina tease from Nasu. Like, do you think I am saying servant Tamamo > Buddha lol? What is this ignorance?