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    Quote Originally Posted by BookHolic View Post
    Why wasn't Medea able to use the Argon Coin during canon? Also, what are the conditions for summoning the dragon of colchis?
    Because she doesn't know the ritual to summon the dragon, all she can do is fluff the skin to make herself feel good.

    Also we don't know the conditions either for dragon summoning.
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    ask that one magus at geronimo's interlude

    or was it vlad's
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    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by yokushi View Post
    Yeah it could be, but given how they say in the Apo material that the route split is entirely dependant on the Einzbern choosing Ruler or Avenger, I don't think it's the case. The pieces should be the same if that's true.
    considering the reserve system is something that's supposed to be apo only iirc eh
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    considering the reserve system is something that's supposed to be apo only iirc eh
    I'm pretty sure they kind of dropped that idea because it was never mentioned again (and no mention about it in the Apo Material as far I remember). There were also claims of the Ruler class being Apo only, and that was disproven. At the very least it's not like the whole "no Moon Cell in no-Extra setting" that get's mentioned once in a while.

    To be fair, when Apo was being written I got the impression they didn't know what kind of direction they wanted to take for Fate as a whole too.
    Last edited by yokushi; January 21st, 2018 at 05:05 PM.

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    The possibility of a Ruler being summoned to sort things out gets brought up in Strange Fake so it's definitely not Apo only. I mean Fransesca then says it won't happen, but that people in SF even knew about the system says something.

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    Nothing in Apo suggests it only happens in it just saying, that a Ruler could be summoned in different circumstances was also a thing that was brought up. Tho I don't think that was the point he was making.
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    What's the history of humanity before Gilgamesh? "Humans" as we understand them are just the current evolutionary stage of primates, right.
    Does that mean Neanderthals were tossing rocks with their giant psychic brains?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Express View Post
    What's the history of humanity before Gilgamesh? "Humans" as we understand them are just the current evolutionary stage of primates, right.
    Does that mean Neanderthals were tossing rocks with their giant psychic brains?
    Depends how far back you go, we know that 14,000 years ago there was human civilizations serving under the Gods, and after that all got wiped out human civilization pretty much followed the same as history's but with magic. Anything before that tho we don't know
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    is it possible for Gray to exist in the fate/apocrypha timeline?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gally View Post
    is it possible for Gray to exist in the fate/apocrypha timeline?
    why not, as long as Lord El-melloi II found her.

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    Just found a guy on fb who's insulting me (someone asked Karna vs Gilgamesh) because I took as exemple Gilgamesh beating him in CCC, I know there is RPG elements in here but that's still also not any random RPG and it is a fact Nasu wrote this with those servants particularly and he let you choose one of the four heroes to defeat Karna in all their respective routes too. So what can I say to calm him down without him trying to continue anymore (or should I just avoid him, still I find it quite irritating that people like him insult you because you give your opinion, it being right, wrong or both... Why are we always meeting people like this behind our screen :'( )

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    No that's not him, who's he?

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    A fan of Karna


    among other things

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    Quote Originally Posted by onepieceuc1 View Post
    Just found a guy on fb who's insulting me (someone asked Karna vs Gilgamesh) because I took as exemple Gilgamesh beating him in CCC, I know there is RPG elements in here but that's still also not any random RPG and it is a fact Nasu wrote this with those servants particularly and he let you choose one of the four heroes to defeat Karna in all their respective routes too. So what can I say to calm him down without him trying to continue anymore (or should I just avoid him, still I find it quite irritating that people like him insult you because you give your opinion, it being right, wrong or both... Why are we always meeting people like this behind our screen :'( )
    I've seen a guy like that on youtube as well. Better just ignore them imo.

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    Beside, Karna is severely underpowered in CCC so I can see why a Karna fan is mad when you use that. Insulting ppl over opinions tho...

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    Yeah, you're right, I didn't know how to answer to this at first (I'm not used to this at all haha), but yes, now that a little time has passed and i've taken some step back, there is no reason to listen to someone who just came to attack you in the first place anyways.
    Thanks!

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    How does the artifact used in summoning determine whats brought forth?

    would avalon always draw saber in a servant battle, for example?

    does it depend on whether or not one is the owner of the artifact or remnant of their life? does it vary based on the type of heroic spirit they are?

    When my parents get home and my gf is over

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    It depends on how connected the HS is to the catalyst. Avalon would always draw Artoria because simply it's her NP, an uncountable part of her person legend. Catalysts can get more vague tho, like say a fragment of the Round Table, with a catalyst like that you are guaranteed in drawing one of the knights that sat on it, but as it's not keyed to no knight in paticualar you can't control who do get. So it's stuff like that, if a catalyst has only connections to one HS, then you will get them, while if it's not concrete and it could apply to multiple HS you will get the one that matches your personality the most.
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    I mean, you can summon Nero with a poster of Rome.

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