Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions IThough abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
I was thinking more of psychological pain. I suppose "suffering" would have been a better word choice on my part.
See, that falls under the sort of Monkey's Paw clause I was talking about.
Basically, if the goal of demons is to take away humanity's suffering, that's not very demonic, is it? Unless we get into "pain is necessary for growth" or similar territory.
It's really the same as faeries and a lot of other nonhuman creatures as well, just that they exist on a completely different paradigm and set of values.
Angra's the same way. He has to acknowledge humanity to be able to be what he is in the first place.
Localizationing stuff
"Want to take away pain" describes a function rather than a will, as demons take on form through ideas. Although taking away pain is more pertinent to Agonist Disorder, in general it can be said that whether the capacity in which the existence of a demon is desired is that of a cure or a scapegoat on which to blame one's own weakness, the nature of demons is such that their existence peels away the human mind and distorts the body until they incarnate.
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Which is to say that it isn't wish fulfilment at a terrible cost but more like downloading metaphysical cancer.
its like how people took comfort in believing Jack the Ripper was a demon.
But at the same time that's what allows for From Hell to manifest.
Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions IThough abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
How are Outer Gods not evil? I haven't read much Lovecraft but Nyarlatothep seems completely evil every time they mention him. So does Sothot... Sogoth... Uh... The guy who they pray to raise the dead.
it's the same way that faeries that kidnap little boys and do body mods on them aren't "evil"
Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions IThough abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
I can see that with the Color out of the Sky or the Elder things from Mountains of Madness but Nyarla and his minions seem to actively enjoy human suffering, slavery, and such though.
Last edited by pinetree; April 3rd, 2018 at 05:39 PM.
Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions IThough abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
Just something i was wondering. I know that originally TM was a RPG group with Nasu as GM until Takeuchi convinced him to write stuff. I was just wondering, does anyone know what Tabletop RPG did they play? My gut wants to say DnD but I forget. Im just curious because I want to figure out the context that went behind the Servants statistics and the odd mention in the NPs of SN. While I do remember Nasu had a costume mechanics im just curious if he had worked up from something.
"Only in my company, will you not be a monster"
anywhere than here
Yeah they played DnD does not say which version
But eventually Nasu, age 20, made his homebrew "Iron Emblem" which was inspired by the Lord of the Rings and The Five Star Stories
This is stuff is from the "Trails of Typemoon" book
which is pretty interesting up to the point it starts talking about the works themselves, then it's pretty shallow
Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions IThough abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
Localizationing stuff