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[Laserman]

CM3

Case files hasn't gotten there yet and HA is all of six months after FSN

Okay, so it's not mentioned in Fate/Stay Night at all? Why not? Dismantling the Holy Grail system sounds pretty important. I guess it would have ruined the feeling of a route and the whole story itself ending but still.

[Arashi_Leonhart]

Why would they talk about something that is unknown at the end of Fate and UBW and a non-issue in HF?

[Altaris]

I feel like many Fate fans have this weird expectation that dismantling the Grail is something interesting and adventurous

My imagination of that has always been some Clock Tower mumbo jumbo with Waver acting like he couldn't give two shit and Tohsaka being half serious half indifferent as usual.

[RoydGolden]

I feel like many Fate fans have this weird expectation that dismantling the Grail is something interesting and adventurous

My imagination of that has always been some Clock Tower mumbo jumbo with Waver acting like he couldn't give two shit and Tohsaka being half serious half indifferent as usual.

It was apparently a conflict on par with the Grail War itself, I can't see that not being interesting and adventurous.

[Laserman]

Why would they talk about something that is unknown at the end of Fate and UBW and a non-issue in HF?

Hey, I thought when the grail was destroyed in the different routes it was gone for good and everyone acted like it was. I guess it isn't that big of a deal.

[Arashi_Leonhart]

Yeah, because insofar as Shirou is concerned, it was. Heaven's Feel is the only route where you learn more about the ritual itself and then that's rendered moot by either blasting it or Illya closing it off.

[Wandering Swordwoman]

Hey I don't understand yet about this Phantom Servant thing. How can Lobo have other heroic spirit abilities and become stronger than Jeanne Alter and Saber Alter combine? Is Moriarty playing with the summoning system?

[Lily Emilio]

Hey I don't understand yet about this Phantom Servant thing. How can Lobo have other heroic spirit abilities and become stronger than Jeanne Alter and Saber Alter combine? Is Moriarty playing with the summoning system?

First of all Lobo is not stronger than JA and SA combined. He is physically strong, very fast and has the annoying ability of invisibility plus the survival skills of the great wolf, making it difficult to corner him even for high rank heroic spirits. Second, Moriaty has nothing to do with Phantom fusion. It was demon god Baal who did all of that. After the final battle in the time temple he escaped to 3000 years ago and plotted a revenge plan. During those 3000 years he experiemented fusion between Phantoms (those who are neither heroic spirits nor anti-heroes) and heroic spirits in the Shinjuku singularity, because the place is abandoned by the counter force, which allowed him to freely experiment the fusion. The fusion was said to be even a genius can't pull off, but 3000 years was a long enough time.

[castor212]

Actually shooting the greater grail is just shooting a rock.

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[Wandering Swordwoman]

First of all Lobo is not stronger than JA and SA combined. He is physically strong, very fast and has the annoying ability of invisibility plus the survival skills of the great wolf, making it difficult to corner him even for high rank heroic spirits. Second, Moriaty has nothing to do with Phantom fusion. It was demon god Baal who did all of that. After the final battle in the time temple he escaped to 3000 years ago and plotted a revenge plan. During those 3000 years he experiemented fusion between Phantoms (those who are neither heroic spirits nor anti-heroes) and heroic spirits in the Shinjuku singularity, because the place is abandoned by the counter force, which allowed him to freely experiment the fusion. The fusion was said to be even a genius can't pull off, but 3000 years was a long enough time.

I see.... Thanks for the answer ^_^
So how many demon Gods that escaped from that fight? CCC collab has one too right?

[AmADo VII]

Baal - Shinjuku
Phenex - Agartha
Raum - Salem
Zepal - se.ra.ph

not sure about Andraxus from Guda2 event.

[Lobo]

I see.... Thanks for the answer ^_^
So how many demon Gods that escaped from that fight? CCC collab has one too right?

Baal (Shinjuku), Zepar (CCC), Phenex (Agartha) and Raum (Salem) => the EoR chapters (except Shimousa) are they doing
Andras (Gudaguda 2) also escaped but die soon after

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Baal - Shinjuku
Phenex - Agartha
Raum - Salem
Zepal - se.ra.ph

not sure about Andraxus from Guda2 event.

Snipe, but Andras is interesting, he didn't get to make a big plan like the others but Raum still include him and call his resolution of "not wanting to die" wrong when talking about the other demons new found purposes after the Time Temple

[Wandering Swordwoman]

Baal (Shinjuku), Zepar (CCC), Phenex (Agartha) and Raum (Salem) => the EoR chapters (except Shimousa) are they doing
Andras (Gudaguda 2) also escaped but die soon after

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Snipe, but Andras is interesting, he didn't get to make a big plan like the others but Raum still include him and call his resolution of "not wanting to die" wrong when talking about the other demons new found purposes after the Time Temple

What did Zepar wanna do?

[Lily Emilio]

Did you read Salem + CCC? Already explained there.

Edit: To be more exact, Zepar shares similar ambitions with Raum, that is to find other ways to save humanity since Goetia is no more. But they had different approach and Zepar also warned Raum about his plan failing.

[Iceblade44]

What did Zepar wanna do?

Sit back and observe, tho he made the mistake of messing with Kiara

[Lily Emilio]

He did try to use Kiara for his plan cuz he played CCC, but he didn't expect Kiara to fuck him over. Such a dangerous Beast.

[AmADo VII]

and Raum was like 'my niece is too cute I wanna save her!'

[Wandering Swordwoman]

Ah yes. Kiara even make Zepar beg for its life. It was really scary.
Ah to save humans too....

[Draconic]

This might sound like an odd question, but did the mages choose the faction colors in Apoc, or was that the Grail?

[You]

This might sound like an odd question, but did the mages choose the faction colors in Apoc, or was that the Grail?

He knows this. He knows that there is no longer any place to run, for the bridge he crossed was burned by his own hands. Even if he turns back, there is no longer any place for him to return to. Shishigou is fine with that.

He stood before the magic ward.

It will soon be two o'clock. Even in Japan, it would be the dead of night. No other time could be more appropriately suited to Shishigou Kairi as he presides over death.

"Let's get this started."

Traces of tension tainted his voice - a good sign that he was maintaining a favorable mental condition, he analyzed himself. At last, he confirmed once more the color he would belong to. Apparently, the camps of the Servants for both sides have been decided; Black for the Yggdmillennia clan's Servants, Red for the Clock Tower's Servants.

never says