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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_mountain_30 View Post
    since we are talking about servants, what would be the difference between the 2?
    Servant Attack = Has mystery, can affect spiritual bodies, has magical energy
    Normal punch is a normal punch.

    A Servant attack cannot affect a human's spirit or soul.
    The soul is on another plane of existence and requires a conceptual weapon to affect.
    The spirit is attached to the body.

    However, if you were able to do something that separated your spirit from your body a Servant can hurt that. A Servant can also eat your spirit/mind and your soul.
    A Servant attack will do nothing to your mind or your soul as long as the attack is not conceptual.

    Basically, a Servant is a ghost that can hurt both ghosts and people.
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    wow, many thanks.

    that is pretty much what i though

    though, i do admit that i tend to forget that the soul is in a different dimension because servants can straight out rip them off and eat them.

    does any weapon with enough history qualify as a conceptual weapon or do they need to have a special ability for that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_mountain_30 View Post
    does any weapon with enough history qualify as a conceptual weapon or do they need to have a special ability for that?
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    A weapon created to go beyond mere physical interference, and exert influence on concepts, natural providence, and space.
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    That's exaggerating my point.

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    Weapons with enough history acquire mystery and so spiritual properties, but conceptual weapons are specifically soul-crushers.

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    in ds3 terms
    a conceptual effect is a gem infusion.
    a really old weapon is like a +9 weapon because damn titanite slabs
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    would a phyisical attack from excalibur count as a conceptual attack? just curious because of the scene we were discussing earlier
    Last edited by fire_mountain_30; May 13th, 2018 at 07:11 PM.

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    definitely not
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ordep View Post
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    Stat boosts for every stat except magic and luck for Achilles.

    Artemis taking control of Orion's Saint Graph for Orion's case.
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    also, do all black keys bind shadows or is that exclusive to ciel?
    Last edited by fire_mountain_30; May 13th, 2018 at 07:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_mountain_30 View Post
    also, do all black keys bind shadowa or is that exclusive to ciel?
    I mean Kirei did it vs Cursed Arm, so...

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    Quote Originally Posted by forumghost View Post
    I mean Kirei did it vs Cursed Arm, so...
    No Kirei bonded Hassan by literally impaling him. That's different from stabbing through your shadow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceblade44 View Post
    No Kirei bonded Hassan by literally impaling him. That's different from stabbing through your shadow.
    I mean I know that, but Hassan was still surprised that the Black Keys somehow managed to seal his movements, despite planing to be impaled. So I thought the implication was there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    definitely not
    What about the beam

    I assume yes but just in case
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    you don't need to think about it that hard
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    I dont get it
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    nothing makes sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    What about the beam

    I assume yes but just in case
    the beam is just a blast of energy
    if it was conceptual in any way it wouldn't work against Sefar
    the concept of Excalibur is "amplification" it just amplifies what you have, but the result doesn't have a conceptual effect
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    Ah thats true

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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    Servant Attack = Has mystery, can affect spiritual bodies.
    possessed the means of attacking a spirit body, they ran the risk of being one-sidedly annihilated.
    Sorry, 1 more thing im confused about
    Can or cannot normal attacks affect spirit form servants because these 2 quotes seems to say yes but im not sure
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    you don't need to think about it that hard
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    I dont get it
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    Servants can own Servants, spiritual form or otherwise.

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    If Rin had forced Emiya into spiritual form instead of teleporting him away via CS he'd have fucking died
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    What about, say, kuzuki's hyper punch

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    Hmm nvm, i gues it counts as "magical items" that CM said is able to hurt spirit mode
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    you don't need to think about it that hard
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    I dont get it
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    nothing makes sense

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    Late reply: So how come Archer was less injured in UBW?
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    He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.
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    Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?
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    Fate Zero is just Fate Stay Night for people who think Shirou is too girly

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    ah
    Quote Originally Posted by Sandstorm77 View Post
    He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.
    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerEmiya View Post
    Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?
    Quote Originally Posted by Five_X View Post
    Fate Zero is just Fate Stay Night for people who think Shirou is too girly

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