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    Was it "couldn't" or "wouldn't"? She had lost Avalon by that time (how do you lose the sheath to your own sword anyway), but she definitely had Excalibur with her and she did use it in her battles when she was summoned elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laserman View Post
    I already explained why, I don't like how the fight ended. She might have died later, but her opponents, the ones who injured her, are both gone. It left a bad taste in my mouth. It's reminded of when Vegeta sacrificed himself to kill Majin Buu, only to have Majin Buu reform later.
    I mean mordred did take semi out of commission, and she herself doesn‘t have s reason to hold on as long as possible unlike semi. Like this isn‘t even a situation where she failed after all her effort, but more doing her job then leaving without watching the fireworks.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    (how do you lose the sheath to your own sword anyway)
    Well when your evil sister is like "Imma steal it" and then chucks it into a river when nobody's around...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    I mean if I say "Sakura is a soap opera heroine" do you really need a preface "just my opinion though!" to know that's just an opinion? What else can it be?
    Sakura is actually a soap opera heroine, though
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    He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.
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    Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart View Post
    Well when your evil sister is like "Imma steal it" and then chucks it into a river when nobody's around...
    Ok but at what point during your military campaign do you not have your sword (and the sheath that goes with it) by your side? Let alone a sheath which is also your most potent magical artefact, Rhongomyniad wank notwithstanding?

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    Listen, there are about a billionty versions of the legend of King Arthur, just go read one of those for an account of Morgan stealing Excalibur's sheath.
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    He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.
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    Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    Listen, there are about a billionty versions of the legend of King Arthur, just go read one of those for an account of Morgan stealing Excalibur's sheath.
    Do their versions come with cute 5ft nothing King Arthurs who are pathologically unable to relax and have fun?

    I was making an off-hand comment, but if you actually have a plausible explanation for how this Saber lost something that should by all rights be glued to her hip, I'm all ears.

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    Le Morte, which is probably the most popular version of the story and the one that clearly has the most influence on Type Moon's version of events, is that Arthur feared an attack and so slept with his hands on his drawn sword, and so his sis was like I guess I'll take the sheath then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart View Post
    Le Morte, which is probably the most popular version of the story and the one that clearly has the most influence on Type Moon's version of events, is that Arthur feared an attack and so slept with his hands on his drawn sword, and so his sis was like I guess I'll take the sheath then.
    There's all sorts of holes you could poke in that story, but I think I'll choose to take it as another instance of "Instinct: Working as Intended".

    Morgan: Sneaks into Saber's tent in the middle of the night, dagger gleaming as a stray ray of moonlight reflects on its blade. She pauses for a moment, choosing her target,and strikes.

    Saber: Rolls over at the last possible moment, mumbling something that sounds suspiciously like "seconds,please".

    Morgan: "Fine, then. If I cannot take your life, then at least I can claim that holy sword that-"
    *Sees Artoria is currently hugging Excalibur like a teddybear*
    " ...you know what? Fuck it. Sheath it is. With this I can be assured she'll die of old age, if nothing else."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    There's all sorts of holes you could poke in that story, but I think I'll choose to take it as another instance of "Instinct: Working as Intended".

    Morgan: Sneaks into Saber's tent in the middle of the night, dagger gleaming as a stray ray of moonlight reflects on its blade. She pauses for a moment, choosing her target,and strikes.

    Saber: Rolls over at the last possible moment, mumbling something that sounds suspiciously like "seconds,please".

    Morgan: "Fine, then. If I cannot take your life, then at least I can claim that holy sword that-"
    *Sees Artoria is currently hugging Excalibur like a teddybear*
    " ...you know what? Fuck it. Sheath it is. With this I can be assured she'll die of old age, if nothing else."
    Okay, that's pretty hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    There's all sorts of holes you could poke in that story, but I think I'll choose to take it as another instance of "Instinct: Working as Intended".

    Morgan: Sneaks into Saber's tent in the middle of the night, dagger gleaming as a stray ray of moonlight reflects on its blade. She pauses for a moment, choosing her target,and strikes.

    Saber: Rolls over at the last possible moment, mumbling something that sounds suspiciously like "seconds,please".

    Morgan: "Fine, then. If I cannot take your life, then at least I can claim that holy sword that-"
    *Sees Artoria is currently hugging Excalibur like a teddybear*
    " ...you know what? Fuck it. Sheath it is. With this I can be assured she'll die of old age, if nothing else."
    man this myth has so many plot holes what a piece of shit

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    why didn't herk's bravery protect him from hera's mental interference, plot hole

    why didn't kojiro just wear sunglasses or stand facing north, plot hole
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    man this myth has so many plot holes what a piece of shit

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    why didn't herk's bravery protect him from hera's mental interference, plot hole

    why didn't kojiro just wear sunglasses or stand facing north, plot hole
    As in "it doesn't work in regards to the Saber we know", yes. It's not a plot hole (and I didn't call it as such) because it's not part of the same plot, but it is bullshit all the same.

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    Yes why didn't a servant skill that has a spotty record at best even when saber is fighting warn alive saber in her sleep. What sort of crap is this.



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    Why are you all so focused on Instinct specifically when there's a thousand other reasons why Morgan shouldn't have been able to just waltz up to Saber's room and snatch her most valuable artifact?
    Instinct is like, the tip of the iceberg here.

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    Probably because you were the one to mention Instinct...
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    And why wouldn't a powerful mage not able to sneak around in the castle anyways? Hell she even went in and got genetic materials to make mordred before.



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    I was rather pointedly making a joke about it while mentioning how many holes that particular story had.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandstorm77 View Post
    And why wouldn't a powerful mage not able to sneak around in the castle anyways? Hell she even went in and got genetic materials to make mordred before.
    Lemme see, how about... guards? Other members of the KotR, none of which liked her very much (including her "son" and her spy)? Saber herself not leaving Avalon lying around like an idiot? Merlin being Merlin?

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    To me, the actual "plot-hole" isn't that Morgan managed to sneak in at all (she's a witch, I'm sure she can find a way) but why she didn't simply kill Arturia right there rather than just stealing the scabbard. Instinct letting Arturia subconsciously dodge attacks while sleeping is actually a reasonable (if silly) way to explain that.

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    You underestimate evil plotting women

    but then again, I guess Morgan is the same as Semi and Medea in your eyes anyway, so its not that surprising

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    To me, the actual "plot-hole" isn't that Morgan managed to sneak in at all (she's a witch, I'm sure she can find a way) but why she didn't simply kill Arturia right there rather than just stealing the scabbard. Instinct letting her subconsciously dodge attacks while sleeping is actually a reasonable (if silly) way to explain that.
    Avalon the magical healing scabbard is RIGHT NEXT TO Saber
    Did all of you forget how massive of a boon Avalon is?

    I'm pretty sure a slit throat isn't even going to kill Artoria if Avalon is right there
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    To me, the actual "plot-hole" isn't that Morgan managed to sneak in at all (she's a witch, I'm sure she can find a way) but why she didn't simply kill Arturia right there rather than just stealing the scabbard.
    Replace "stealing the scabbard" with "stealing her genes to spawn Mordred" and you've got something I've actually been wondering about for a while now.

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