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    ok, so additional questions on the previous topic.

    if Tamamo's origin is that of a sun goddess, what are the origins of the other 3?

    and are yiu sure that it is always origin based? i read that Emiya's reason for getting a futuristic suit was by tapping into something related to the far away future, where humans grew beyond the " subservience" of Gaia, while Gil's power up was the opposite. he went massively back in time to reach his power (sort of going back in time, i mean).

    and why does unlocking your origin let you go over B's authority?

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    Archer's Origin is Sword, duh

    (may not be the same type of origin)
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    He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.
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    Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?

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    ok, i knew i had that one coming when i wrote the question. the futuristic related things that i read about made me think that it wouldnt be so clear cut

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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_mountain_30 View Post
    ok, so additional questions on the previous topic.

    if Tamamo's origin is that of a sun goddess, what are the origins of the other 3?
    Listing the names of the Mythological Mystic Codes are.

    Nero - Mythology Mystic Code of the Emperor. Pretty straight forward.

    Emiya - Mythology Mystic Code of Wrought Iron. This ties into his origin of sword and how he has nicknames of the Wrought Iron Hero. Which is about UBWs and his blacksmith abilties.

    Tamamo - Mythology Mystic Code of the Sun. Which I said earlier ties into her starting point being that of a Sun Goddess.

    Gil - Mythology Mystic of Genesis. Which is basically just his serious outfit. So being the "First Hero" then.

    As for why getting these outfits allows you to beat BB, I forget and probably have to go and reread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceblade44 View Post
    Listing the names of the Mythological Mystic Codes are.

    Nero - Mythology Mystic Code of the Emperor. Pretty straight forward.

    Emiya - Mythology Mystic Code of Wrought Iron. This ties into his origin of sword and how he has nicknames of the Wrought Iron Hero. Which is about UBWs and his blacksmith abilties.

    Tamamo - Mythology Mystic Code of the Sun. Which I said earlier ties into her starting point being that of a Sun Goddess.

    Gil - Mythology Mystic of Genesis. Which is basically just his serious outfit. So being the "First Hero" then.

    As for why getting these outfits allows you to beat BB, I forget and probably have to go and reread.
    Think it had to do with countering BB's Earth Mother Goddess Authority, so buffs weren't enough. They also needed a power at/before the dawn of humanity to give them the same rank as BB's authority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_mountain_30 View Post
    ok, so additional questions on the previous topic.

    if Tamamo's origin is that of a sun goddess, what are the origins of the other 3?
    This origin is not that origin and also not the other origin.
    and are yiu sure that it is always origin based? i read that Emiya's reason for getting a futuristic suit was by tapping into something related to the far away future, where humans grew beyond the " subservience" of Gaia, while Gil's power up was the opposite. he went massively back in time to reach his power (sort of going back in time, i mean).
    All load of crap from ppl who did not play the game. Like Iceblade said the conversation about origin is the same for all 4 servants, except for Tamamo who mistaken
    this origin
    a cheat
    and
    that origin
    her origin
    .
    and why does unlocking your origin let you go over B's authority?
    BB's authority is the authority of the Earth Mother, a power of origin. It is based on the concept that you cannot hurt your mama (your origin). And since the Earth Mother is the mother of all creations on Earth, all beings of Earth cannot go against their big mom. So as long as she has that you cannot win. So what you need to do is turn that concept around. If your origin is not big mom, then you can win. Conveniently, when Rani and Rin looked into the info on Ten Crowns, they got Moon Cell's permission to access to the "power of origin". By installing that skill onto your servant (in the form of the mystic code), they will be immune to BB's power, cuz now that you also got power of origin, they cancel each other. Furthermore, servants are always limited in their parameters. By hacking into their spiritual core and remove the limiter, they can adjust their parameters as will to match BB's ridiculous star rank parameters. However this overload their saint graphs and will break it if you use this mystic code more than once. How to get it? Enter the servant's spiritual core and destroy the
    Zero Model
    the limiter that is capping your servant's stats
    . This Zero Model looks the same as your servant but it is only a "phenomenon" representing the "power of origin". Its combat power is around the same as your servant. Kill it and it will drop the mystic code. This mystic code is designed to reference the "original concept" of your servant.

    Basically, you have to face a SMT bullshit boss that can instant kill your character with a 100% IK rate skill and null all damage except almighty element, this boss also has 9999 all stats. However your character can only go 99 stat so you can't even do damage to the boss even if you have almighty skills. But through some research you managed to obtain an armor that when equipped will grant you immunity to instant kill and allow you to raise all stats to 9999, then you finally can fight the boss on equal terms. However this armor is 1 time use as it will delete your character if you equip it the 2nd time. To get this armor you have to fight a miniboss version of your character with some skills of your character inside your soul, so you go in there with another character to kill this miniboss and then it drops this armor.

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    many thanks

    i am not a big game nerd, so i didnt really need the extra game metaphor. i m sorry that you had to go through all that trouble

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    so, in theory, that Authority would work on Rider of Pestilence?

    he is basically a concept driven by an AI, so i am curious

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    Yes.

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    figured as much, just checking

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    Is there any reason given in Extella Link as to why Archer has that weird mullet thing now?
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    To give people the ability to say "oh thank god" when they unlock his normal skin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart View Post
    To give people the ability to say "oh thank god" when they unlock his normal skin
    What's even weirder is he apparently was taking advice from Raikou on how to tie his hair back there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby View Post
    Is there any reason given in Extella Link as to why Archer has that weird mullet thing now?
    He felt he needed to change his style to fit the mood in Link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby View Post
    Is there any reason given in Extella Link as to why Archer has that weird mullet thing now?
    Mullets are cool though.
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    Can Gil put stuff inside GoB? Like if he finds something on the ground, can he open a GoB portal and drop it inside?

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    He put Shinji in there, so yes
    "Only in my company, will you not be a monster"


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    He put in Shinji

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