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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    Literally the first time anyone's brought that up to me, but okay.
    It's literally said in the game itself

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    That's a new one, but it does makes sense. Is it explained why the universe (or rather multiverse, since it contains multiple universes) has to expend energy for them to exist? Are we breaking the first law of thermodynamics? Or is it one of those "don't think about it too hard" things?
    If you mean new as in Extella, sure.

    And I mean, it's just like, existing takes energy. For a world to exist it also needs energy. Something has to provide that energy, and it happens to be drawn from a pool of finite energy in the universe.
    I guess it's basically the first law of thermodynamics, yeah.

    Imagine you have a nice pile of snow in your backyard, and you build some snowmen out of it.
    You build a few of them, and constantly work to make them look even better.
    At some point you might even think "I wonder how that would look if I did this instead" and you build a new one based on a pre-existing one.
    Because your local neighbourhood watch is very strict, you're not allowed to just go and take more snow from anywhere outside of your own lawn though, so you inevitably run out of snow to build with.
    Since you want to build more alternatives to some you're still working on, you decide to tear down both the really shitty ones, but also the ones you think are absolutely perfect, because there's no more you can do with them and then what good are they for if all they're accomplishing is for you to now feel bored so you'll end up going back inside and watching TV.
    So the ones which are really bad, and the ones that are perfect are torn down, which gives you more snow, which allows you to make more variations of your WIPs.

    Is this a shitty explanation for the first law of thermodynamics, or of timeline pruning?
    Yes.
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    Wouldn't be surprised if its the CF that says yo prune me, or the Prime Ones for each planet's timeline

    More likely is that we'll never be told at all who does the pruning

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    Did Nasu also say that there were multiple other possibilities not covered by FSN? I thought he did, and I really hope that's the case because then hypothetically, there'd be a possible mixed UBW x HF scenario, which I'd really want.
    He's never said that but the premise of Hollow implies it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotonoha View Post
    He's never said that but the premise of Hollow implies it.
    That's what I thought. Thanks for the confirmation though.

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    Regardless of the route you pick

    Kirei always has to die...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zurvan View Post
    Wouldn't be surprised if its the CF that says yo prune me, or the Prime Ones for each planet's timeline

    More likely is that we'll never be told at all who does the pruning
    Weren't there BIG IMPLICATIONS in LB2 that the unconsciousness of mankind is involved?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    Did Nasu also say that there were multiple other possibilities not covered by FSN? I thought he did, and I really hope that's the case because then hypothetically, there'd be a possible mixed UBW x HF scenario, which I'd really want.
    I'm not saying that's not possible, but remember: you can't save everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by savepoints View Post
    Weren't there BIG IMPLICATIONS in LB2 that the unconsciousness of mankind is involved?
    Oh sweet, then my theory could be true anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by savepoints View Post
    Weren't there BIG IMPLICATIONS in LB2 that the unconsciousness of mankind is involved?
    Didn't Goetia imply something like that in the trailer when he said culling of the "weak" timelines is something mankind chose?

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    I've been assuming that it's an automated thing that the Human Order does. Organizations exist to further themselves. Like how evolution isn't maximizing life out of a reasoned principle. Life maximizes itself by default which we call evolution.

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    I assumed the pruning was just a way the universe fundamentally worked, not that there was some observer deciding what gets pruned and what stays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpoonyViking View Post
    I'm not saying that's not possible, but remember: you can't save everyone.
    Very true, but you can still try. Also, don't take my ideal UBW x HF route away from me!!

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    But who would be the one Shirou chooses in that scenario?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zurvan View Post
    But who would be the one Shirou chooses in that scenario?
    Whoever you want. Personally, I'd still say Rin because I believe Rin to be best girl, but that's just me. That, and I'm a sucker for Rin and Shirou's partner dynamic.

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    Got a timeline question that's been bothering me for a while now.

    If Olga Marie's dad used the money he wished for from the 2004 HGW to set up Chaldea, then how is it that Chaldea's Demi-Servant experiments and the invention of Laplace, Chaldeas, and FATE all happened before 2004?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reign View Post
    Got a timeline question that's been bothering me for a while now.

    If Olga Marie's dad used the money he wished for from the 2004 HGW to set up Chaldea, then how is it that Chaldea's Demi-Servant experiments and the invention of Laplace, Chaldeas, and FATE all happened before 2004?
    Maybe as the head of the Animusphere family, he set up all of the above and prototyped them, but his wish from the 2004 HGW allowed him to consolidate all of them and truly advance in his agenda by forming Chaldea. That's just my theory.

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    They started building everything before the war, and the systems were made before that. Not everything was functional though, which is what iirc Maris Billy wished for. He didn't wish for money, he got money from sponsors

    the wiki looks pretty correct about this????
    http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Chald...y_Organization

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    Wait, is his name Maris Billy or Marisburry? I've seen both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reign View Post
    Got a timeline question that's been bothering me for a while now.

    If Olga Marie's dad used the money he wished for from the 2004 HGW to set up Chaldea, then how is it that Chaldea's Demi-Servant experiments and the invention of Laplace, Chaldeas, and FATE all happened before 2004?
    Don't know about Laplace but a mini version of Chaldeas (proof of concept) was made. They then scaled it up.
    Also Marisbilly still had the Sepharix oil drilling thing and that held a working version of Chaldeas (Mk-1).
    This stuff is from fragments of the moonlight lost room booklet
    that hasn't been full scanned yet
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