Questions, questions and more questions (READ THE OP FOR ANSWERS)

[You]

"Idle spirits are nothing more than a part of the soul left behind after death. They don't have a will, so they just wander around. But as they are parts, they keep grouping together to form a whole until they become a ghost. They don't have a will, but basic desires remain. Things like 'I want to return to my former self', or 'I want a human body'.
A hospital has a lot of idle spirits. They form drifting ghosts and look for a body they can inhabit. Since they are so weak, normal people can't feel them or even come into contact with them. Formless spirits only follow people with paranormal abilities who can perceive them. Sorcerers who make a living out of talking to ghosts protect their egos with a shell, so it's very rare for them to be taken down by a drifting ghost.

replace ghost with wraith

Someone whispered those words. In response to that voice, Archer of Red grabbed her bow. She still hadn’t realized that the whispers of the evil spirits had turned into her own words.

Low level evil spirits could only repeat the same whispers. They shouldn’t have even have had the intelligence to change their words according to the situation.
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Those children were what brought the Servant Assassin of Black into existence… in other words, they were like the foundation of existence known as ‘Jack the Ripper’. Naturally, they were already dead.

Even so, if they were left alone, they might have possessed some powerless human. In that case, it was highly possible that a Jack the Ripper with a living human body would have appeared.

Of course, they were low-class evil spirits. The most they would have been able to do was give someone the urge to commit murder, and they would have lacked any supernatural powers.

wraiths have unfinished business and they try to get a body to do it
evil spirits just keep saying fuck you because they're evil

[pinetree]

Honestly you can easily play it with just the broadest ideas about Extra, as long as you don't mind every last nuance in the characters of Nero and Tamamo having been ironed out completely.

I'd rather experience any of the characters in Extra first. Despite the mediocre narrative and poor execution, it's still a much better showing than the uncomfortable and uninteresting waifu pandering that is 80% of Extella's dialogue.

[Deathhappens]

True except for the thing about poor execution and mediocre narrative.

[pinetree]

Extra treats its character really poorly and has some storytelling problems (particularly Twice always comes to mind), and it seems to me that both are a result of having to adhere to the format of the weekly rounds.

[fire_mountain_30]

i remember that some time ago, people here subscribed to the notion that beings that beings more powerful than the planet itself were lowered to not being as strong as long as they were on earth + that aliens couldnt win while on earth fo a similar reason.

does the fandom still subscribe to this? has the more recent lore debunked this notion?

[Mcjon01]

ORT has been unbeatable on earth since forever so no I don’t think anyone ever subscribed to that notion.

[fire_mountain_30]

ORT has been unbeatable on earth since forever so no I don’t think anyone ever subscribed to that notion.

But not the giant buny girl that murdered dozens of planets, for example and many of the TYPES got killed in Notes so I dont think ORT would be the norm.

also, the guybhasnt done anything since he is always asleep and only killed 1 person that disturbed him. He is ubdefeated because he only had 1 fight

[Mcjon01]

Feats don’t matter mats say unbeatable on earth

[Deathhappens]

Everyone who tried approaching ORT died, it's just that the DAA that tried first was the most notable.

[Tobias]

Man who cares about that super vampire dying in the first round of combat, it’s way more important that by some miracle ORT managed to defeat Bob from accounting

[AmADo VII]

Everyone who tried approaching ORT died, it's just that the DAA that tried first was the most notable.

Neco Arc was most notable because she survived crystal valley.

[You]

Extra treats its character really poorly and has some storytelling problems (particularly Twice always comes to mind), and it seems to me that both are a result of having to adhere to the format of the weekly rounds.

I know there are a lot mixed emotions about last encore,
but Last encore really helped flesh out those characters.
Except Rani, Rin, and Julius they were already fleshed out in the game.
So I guess it only helped Twice, Shinji, Dan, and Alice and Leo a bit.

[Deathhappens]

Man who cares about that super vampire dying in the first round of combat, it’s way more important that by some miracle ORT managed to defeat Bob from accounting

The point is it wasn't just one fight.

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Also you shouldn't knock Bob, he did karate in highschool.

[pinetree]

I know there are a lot mixed emotions about last encore,
but Last encore really helped flesh out those characters.
Except Rani, Rin, and Julius they were already fleshed out in the game.
So I guess it only helped Twice, Shinji, Dan, and Alice and Leo a bit.

Rani was just as bland in Extra though, and Rin only managed to go a bit above that because most of her character is just FSN Rin. Though I can't talk about CCC, obviously.
I do agree that Last Encore helped those five a lot.

[Rafflesiac]

Rani is cute.

[AmADo VII]

So I guess it only helped Twice, Shinji, Dan, and Alice and Leo a bit.

so they need SG?

[Iceblade44]

Rani was just as bland in Extra though, and Rin only managed to go a bit above that because most of her character is just FSN Rin. Though I can't talk about CCC, obviously.
I do agree that Last Encore helped those five a lot.

CCC expanded on Rani a lot, that is it really focused on her eccentricities(like how she always goes commando and thinks it’s great). Same with Rin for that matter, tho I think Rani got the most from it.

[pinetree]

CCC expanded on Rani a lot, that is it really focused on her eccentricities(like how she always goes commando and thinks it’s great

I know about that from Foxtail but that doesn't sound like expanding her character to me. I mean, I guess it is, but it's just memes.
Who knows, a guy is subbing the game on youtube with tsukinoura's translation and I'm reading that, so maybe my opinion on them will change.

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

Do you guys think any participant of the 4th Grail War who died might qualify to become a ghost?

[Iceblade44]

I know about that from Foxtail but that doesn't sound like expanding her character to me. I mean, I guess it is, but it's just memes.
Who knows, a guy is subbing the game on youtube with tsukinoura's translation and I'm reading that, so maybe my opinion on them will change.

No it’s more then just memes tho it’s often taken to a funny direction. The thing about CCC that it can get deep, makes sense because one of the main objectives in the game is to go inside the heart of girls and tear them apart by bringing up their psychological faults and quirks and watch as they fall apart as you reveal their embarrassing sides to the truth. It’s basically a psychology session using the equivalent of a jackhammer with a pseudo erotic element mixed in.