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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubo View Post
    I think some other guys already asked this, but I don't know the real answer, so... Is it correct "Ionioi Hetairoi" or "Aionion Hetairoi"? Because, from what I've been told from friends who study greek, "Aionion", although singular, means "eternal", so "eternal companions" sounds good, while "Ionioi" doesn't seem to have a link to Iskandar or the Companions. I read someone saying it means "the Companions of the king of Ionia", but I asked my friends I talked about before and it does not.
    So, did Aniplex mistranslated the Noble Phantasm's name? However, it is true that without the exact greek spelling Urobuchi transliterated, we can't do much, but if one of you guys can help me, I'd really appreciate that.
    Since I'm writing this, does anyone know if also "Knight of Owner" is written wrongly? Because I've watched the trailers of Fate/Zero ufotable made, and I saw that they wrote "Knight of Honor", not "Knight of Owner" as we call it now. I think that Urobuchi made an error when he wrote "Honor" in katakana, and it resulted in "Owner", since the japanese pronunciations are the same, but they are written differently.

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    The male plural adjective for "eternal" is "Aionioi". Ufo/TM/Gen/Nasu/whoever decided it should be "Ionioi" i.e. "people from the Ionian". No, it doesn't make sense.
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    Maybe stupid question but emglish isnt my primary language and i want to make sure

    Is knight of owner, grammaticallu speaking, correct

    I mean, besides the fact that it sounds lame
    Knight of Owner isn't grammatically correct
    Knight of Honor isn't thematically correct
    Lancelot just can't win (the only part of all this that's definitely correct)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zurvan View Post
    I get that Honor makes sense in that Lancelot is famous for his initial honor and tragic love story, but Owner, like koto points out, makes more sense in the context

    but believe whatever you like
    Without context, sure, but for it to even sort of make sense it would have to be "Knight of Ownership" or "Knight of Ownage (lol)" . "Knight of Owner" is simply wordsalad.

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    It should be changed to "Knight of On Her" because Lancelot is more famous for stealing wives then for beating people with a stick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotonoha View Post
    I think owner makes sense because it's a NP that makes the user the owner of other people's NPs by stealing them which isn't very honourable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zurvan View Post
    I get that Honor makes sense in that Lancelot is famous for his initial honor and tragic love story, but Owner, like koto points out, makes more sense in the context


    The way I see it, the NP isn't about stealing things. The name is A Knight Does Not Die Empty Handed, the NP is about fighting to the last even in dire circumstances and not letting go of your knight values in the face of adversity, which ties well with his legend, his regrets, and the anecdote that actually gave birth to the NP (which isn't about stealing). It's specially poignant because his Berserker self is abandoning those values because of his regret, but both of his NPs represent knighthood anyway, it's a way to show that these things are integral to who he is no matter what.

    We only see it as stealing things because he fought against Mr. NPs-are-arrows.

    Of course that's all my own interpretation, but I just don't see the "stealing" thing being reinforced in any part of his concept except for Owner, which is probably a pun with Honor anyway so it works out.

    Btw I'm not trying to argue that Knight of Honor is correct, it isn't, just saying this because it kinda bothers me to see the NP regarded as just stealing things since I think Berserker Lancelot is more thematically consistent than that.
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    Personally I prefer the idea of A Knight Does Not Die Empty Handed signifying that you keep fighting with whatever you can get your hands on, whether its a twig, a street pole or another hero's NP

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    but really it doesnt matter whether you use Honor or Owner since everyone gets what you mean from context

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    Sorry, I talked about FGO mats only because it was an example. However, I thought that it was only a pun between Honor and Owner, too. And it is also true that everyone can interpret what they want, be it of honor or ownership, but I agree with pinetree for his interpretation.

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    Five years since Zero was published and we're still arguing over Owner / Honor. God, we suck
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    The male plural adjective for "eternal" is "Aionioi". Ufo/TM/Gen/Nasu/whoever decided it should be "Ionioi" i.e. "people from the Ionian". No, it doesn't make sense.
    in japanese it can be read as both aionioi or ionioi. So its written correctly in japanese.
    So it's the chinese translator's fault and then the wikia's fault for picking that up, and then everyone else like aniplex for using the wikia.
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    Wait, Aniplex used the wikia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    Wait, Aniplex used the wikia?
    To be fair Typemoon also uses the Wikia
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    That's exaggerating my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpoonyViking View Post
    Five years since Zero was published and we're still arguing over Owner / Honor. God, we suck
    Wait, 5 years? I thought the Zero novels were published in 2006?

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    To be fair Typemoon also uses the Wikia
    Wut?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    Wut?
    Fate Zero Animation materials II
    They used "Magecraft"
    Magecraft isn't a normal english word, its something only really used by this fandom and proliferation of the term is from the wikia.
    Ergo TM used the wikia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    Wait, Aniplex used the wikia?
    It's not that surprising. Say you're translating something TM for Aniplex. But you're not a fan, so you don't know the terminology. You do a quick google search, one of the first results will be the wiki and with it the translation you're looking for. It's not something exclusive to TM, I'm sure many franchises do the same thing.

    For example, apparently that is how Toole's name was officially declared, well, Toole. It was a mistranslation that the wiki used, and then in the dub of Apocrypha they used that same name, probably because they grabbed it off the wiki.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reign View Post
    For example, apparently that is how Toole's name was officially declared, well, Toole. It was a mistranslation that the wiki used, and then in the dub of Apocrypha they used that same name, probably because they grabbed it off the wiki.
    That's my fault tbh
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    I actually think Toole sounds better so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reign View Post
    It's not that surprising. Say you're translating something TM for Aniplex. But you're not a fan, so you don't know the terminology. You do a quick google search, one of the first results will be the wiki and with it the translation you're looking for. It's not something exclusive to TM, I'm sure many franchises do the same thing.

    For example, apparently that is how Toole's name was officially declared, well, Toole. It was a mistranslation that the wiki used, and then in the dub of Apocrypha they used that same name, probably because they grabbed it off the wiki.
    And yet they someehow decided to use Mystics(?!) instead of Mystery...
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