Questions, questions and more questions (READ THE OP FOR ANSWERS)

[LightUnite]

Just look at Shirou

That...actually explains a lot more than you'd think it would.

[Arashi_Leonhart]

I'm confused about something: Why is Arturia's ideals considered wrong? Part of her ideals is putting others before yourself, right? So if that's wrong, why is it seen as a positive attribute in most societies? And if there's a detail in this that is only told in the VN, forgive me, but I must have missed that detail. And I will freely admit I freely admit that I think of the idea of putting others before yourself is, at the very least, a noble quality, right?

I'm just confused, okay?

That's not her ideal, though, for one. Her ideal is a utopia. And they aren't wrong, but there are problems with them. something something just because right doesnt mean correct

As for putting oneself before others, that is noble, but like anything else, when you take it toward the logical extremes like Saber does, you stop being human and start being something else. And that's problematic if you're trying to save humans.

[castor212]

......why are we saying zero is now musashi's origin?

where is this coming from?

[forumghost]

......why are we saying zero is now musashi's origin?

where is this coming from?

I know right? She doesn't show up until F/GO. The only Saber on Zero is OG!Seiba.

[RoydGolden]

Yeah it's a single concept the "official" term is composite origin.

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A tree will have the origin of tree.

That sounds like an Origin is basically the same as a Telos in the Aristotelian sense. Is that right?

[You]

......why are we saying zero is now musashi's origin?

where is this coming from?

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おぬしより優れた剣士、[r]おぬしより優れた達人は確かにいよう。
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＠鬼
だが最高の敵とは、そのようなものではない。
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おぬしが目指す道。おぬしの『起源』と真逆の道を[r]極めた者こそが、剣者にとっての最高の敵である。
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されど[line 3]されど、それは叶わぬ。[r]いるはずが無いのだ。
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天眼の剣士。一を超える零を目指した剣士。[r]これと相克する道とは、即ち無限。
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I think from that we can say her origin is zero or something super close

[Trubo]

Jailter

Reddit can keep their nickname, but she's Starbucks here.

[Arashi_Leonhart]

I got that nickname from here you goober

[Magikewl]

ehhh it’s better than jerker

[Trubo]

I got that nickname from here you goober

http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread...=1#post2540309

Spent way too much time looking, but Starbucks is the first nickname I can find for her mentioned on this site.

ehhh it’s better than jerker

Only other ones I've seen are SJW (Summer Jeanne Welfare) and JAWS (Jeanne Alter Welfare Summer).

[Rafflesiac]

Tryhard Alter, make it happen

[Magikewl]

Her name is Garbage and we must respect that

[Arashi_Leonhart]

http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread...=1#post2540309

Spent way too much time looking, but Starbucks is the first nickname I can find for her mentioned on this site.

Congrats that isn't even the oldest post of Starbucks

And the names came up concurrently

And it doesn't even really matter since idgas what reddit uses since I don't actually reddit

[castor212]

I think from that we can say her origin is zero or something super close

i guess

im just super iffy when people took implied things as might-as-well-be-fact things

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Her name is Garbage and we must respect that

bit too much

[castor212]

I know right? She doesn't show up until F/GO. The only Saber on Zero is OG!Seiba.

is this a pun

[SpoonyViking]

I know right? She doesn't show up until F/GO. The only Saber on Zero is OG!Seiba.

Don't worry, they may ignore you, but I will give you meaning.

[LightUnite]

So, do deities in the Nasuverse inherently not have Humanity's best interests at heart? Or are there some gods/goddesses that genuinely care about the survival/prosperity of humankind?

[Mizukume]

Case by case.

[Rafflesiac]

And it doesn't even really matter since idgas what reddit uses since I don't actually reddit

you work for aniplex you've already been corrupted

[LightUnite]

I'm unsure about something: Could the Oracle at Delphi qualify as a Heroic Spirit? Because if so, maybe they're the Divine Spirit that sees the future that Kirschatria spoke of?