Originally Posted by
fire_mountain_30
ok, so additional questions on the previous topic.
if Tamamo's origin is that of a sun goddess, what are the origins of the other 3?
This origin is not that origin and also not the other origin.
and are yiu sure that it is always origin based? i read that Emiya's reason for getting a futuristic suit was by tapping into something related to the far away future, where humans grew beyond the " subservience" of Gaia, while Gil's power up was the opposite. he went massively back in time to reach his power (sort of going back in time, i mean).
All load of crap from ppl who did not play the game. Like Iceblade said the conversation about origin is the same for all 4 servants, except for Tamamo who mistaken and .
and why does unlocking your origin let you go over B's authority?
BB's authority is the authority of the Earth Mother, a power of origin. It is based on the concept that you cannot hurt your mama (your origin). And since the Earth Mother is the mother of all creations on Earth, all beings of Earth cannot go against their big mom. So as long as she has that you cannot win. So what you need to do is turn that concept around. If your origin is not big mom, then you can win. Conveniently, when Rani and Rin looked into the info on Ten Crowns, they got Moon Cell's permission to access to the "power of origin". By installing that skill onto your servant (in the form of the mystic code), they will be immune to BB's power, cuz now that you also got power of origin, they cancel each other. Furthermore, servants are always limited in their parameters. By hacking into their spiritual core and remove the limiter, they can adjust their parameters as will to match BB's ridiculous star rank parameters. However this overload their saint graphs and will break it if you use this mystic code more than once. How to get it? Enter the servant's spiritual core and destroy the Zero Model
the limiter that is capping your servant's stats
. This Zero Model looks the same as your servant but it is only a "phenomenon" representing the "power of origin". Its combat power is around the same as your servant. Kill it and it will drop the mystic code. This mystic code is designed to reference the "original concept" of your servant.
Basically, you have to face a SMT bullshit boss that can instant kill your character with a 100% IK rate skill and null all damage except almighty element, this boss also has 9999 all stats. However your character can only go 99 stat so you can't even do damage to the boss even if you have almighty skills. But through some research you managed to obtain an armor that when equipped will grant you immunity to instant kill and allow you to raise all stats to 9999, then you finally can fight the boss on equal terms. However this armor is 1 time use as it will delete your character if you equip it the 2nd time. To get this armor you have to fight a miniboss version of your character with some skills of your character inside your soul, so you go in there with another character to kill this miniboss and then it drops this armor.