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    Quote Originally Posted by Zurvan View Post
    Would you happen to have context?

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    unless this is Angra
    It's the definition of what counts as a divine construct.

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    「人の望みによって作られながら、人の意思に影響されず生まれるもの」。
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    sounds kinda like wishes to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by savepoints View Post
    What exactly does it mean for something to "be born from human desire, but not influenced by human intent"?
    Probably like Loptr Laejarn being used to burn the AoG texture. Maybe it was made due to humans wanting to separate from the gods, but it's not like humans actively want to destroy the texture, I doubt majority of humans even know about that mechanic in the first place. But the planet be like k ur wish shall be granted, imma wipe out the Norse gods cuz u gais want to no longer rely on them, so here is this tool to do that.

    Tho that explanation is kinda shaky for the other god forged stuffs, like Vasavi Shakti, what part of it is made by human desire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizukume View Post
    Probably like Loptr Laejarn being used to burn the AoG texture. Maybe it was made due to humans wanting to separate from the gods, but it's not like humans actively want to destroy the texture, I doubt majority of humans even know about that mechanic in the first place. But the planet be like k ur wish shall be granted, imma wipe out the Norse gods cuz u gais want to no longer rely on them, so here is this tool to do that.

    Tho that explanation is kinda shaky for the other god forged stuffs, like Vasavi Shakti, what part of it is made by human desire?
    It's mostly the intent thing that trips me up, because kinda like Zurvan says, the desire part sounds basically like wishes to me (and I mean, it is 望み so I guess it is wishes) but what exactly is referred to by human intent kinda avoids me I feel.

    I like your interpretation there, but as you say it's also shaky when you try to apply it to other stuff.

    Thinking about it, if this is the requirement (in addition to being crafted by a god-tier being) to being a divine construct, then what is it that makes Photon Ray a prototype of them?
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    my take is less intention and more purpose (same kanji)

    something2 the difference between i want ice cream for dinner but my purpose is to have cabbage for dinner something2
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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    my take is less intention and more purpose (same kanji)

    something2 the difference between i want ice cream for dinner but my purpose is to have cabbage for dinner something2
    Ok yeah, that's an interesting take on it that I hadn't thought about. So then we're talking more "things humans wanted but that they couldn't have" sort of things, because it was outside their dominion or whatever, which I guess also fits with how Gilgamesh who has all human stuff (including those forged by gods but that aren't DCs) doesn't have them.

    hmmmm
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    but then prisma gil has them lol mou wakarimasen
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    Also in addition to why is Photon Ray really considered a prototype for DCs as asked above, where is it stated that Gugalanna is one?
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    to be more detailed, what i think of shinsou heisou are stuffs forged by Big Guys using peeps' wishes as raw material, but irrespective of how the peeps' are meant to be / to do

    but thats me

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    well prototype is alien sword
    the design is alien to begin with

    so inb4 its a shinsou heisou made by alien's wishes but not influenced by alien's purpose
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    Quote Originally Posted by SleepMode View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Burial Agency targets only Daemons, while Executors are spread out between killing mages, Daemons and Dead Apostles, right?

    That said, the Church also had Knights like Riesbyfe who hunted TATARI. What's the deal with that?
    Additionally, is there any info on the Knights themselves?
    The Chivalric Orders are stationed at individual churches or units like Riesbyfe's Knights of the Inquisition. The Executors are special forces that eliminate heretical elements, with specific mention to demons that cannot be combated by exorcists. The Burial Agency are a super special unit that expunges with impunity whatever the Church finds inconvenient. It's not that they target different things but their powerlevels and circumstances in which they are involved differ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    to be more detailed, what i think of shinsou heisou are stuffs forged by Big Guys using peeps' wishes as raw material, but irrespective of how the peeps' are meant to be / to do
    I got it now.

    Indra: Yes I finally got your armor Karna, by posing as a beggar!
    Humans: Wao dirty play, give my boi Karna back something to compensate, bro!
    Indra: .....Fine, if you guys wish for it I shall give him the crystallization of my thunder.
    -> crafts Vasavi Shakti on the spot to fulfill their wishes, such is Nasu's version of the story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by savepoints View Post
    What exactly does it mean for something to "be born from human desire, but not influenced by human intent"?
    This shining sword itself is the nostalgic, sorrowful, and exalted dream of all warriors past, present and future who stand at the brink of death on the battlefield – the crystallization of the prayer named ‘glory’.
    An idea(l) born from humanity that is given shape without humanity's input.

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    A wish for a concept without striving for it

    I like leftovers' better

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    That said, if you can't form some mental image of it dw its probably intentionally vague

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    could anyone please post here a translation of the description of karna's ability that lets him blind others in link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_mountain_30 View Post
    could anyone please post here a translation of the description of karna's ability that lets him blind others in link?
    It's a new usage of Brahmastra we never saw b4, still called Brahmastra but this time it blinds enemies (ingame effect is a stun) in the area with a flash of light. Shining Eyes ftw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zurvan View Post
    A wish for a concept without striving for it

    I like leftovers' better

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    That said, if you can't form some mental image of it dw its probably intentionally vague
    Now what about Ea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizukume View Post
    Now what about Ea.
    Joke answer: A wish to see what the truth/beginning of the world looked like

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    given Ea is created before humanity's existence, yeah I got nothing beyond "aliens lol"

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    Do we know what Svin's deal is? I was going to see if there was anything on the moon wiki but then realized I don't know how to spell his name.

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