So how does magecraft, assuming you wouldn't pop like a balloon, change, if at all, in the reverse?
So how does magecraft, assuming you wouldn't pop like a balloon, change, if at all, in the reverse?
Mana is like blood (or... air, I guess?), grain is like pus.
Originally Posted by Sandstorm77
Does the Lady of the Lake exist on this side of the World or the Reverse Side? Also, is the real Excalibur also still in the lake?
I think Shirou getting to avalon is like Kurogiri getting kidnapped by faeries. People can still sorta wander into faerie lands still and Shirou got lucky after searching his whole life since power of love.
Knowing Shirou's luck he probably wandered into a dozen parallel worlds and almost as many alternate time-lines before he got there though.
only if he changes his last name to Andoh
Watch him go through all the routes of FSN, Kaleido, Apocrypha, and finally FGO. Man, that would be one hell of a journey that would probably break Shirou's mind.
woukd it be so wrong to say that A and B are conceptual weapons when Nasu says that A is one and that B does the exact same thing as A?
I dunno, if a bird flies and a plane does the exact same thing does it make a plane a bird?
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I thought that from a magus' perspective, as long as something does the same thing as the original artifact, it is considered that artifact, hence the Magus Association considers the Fuyuki Grail, even if it isn't the same Grail used by Jesus in the Last Supper, a legitimate Grail.
Well no, otherwise science would literally be magecraft.
I think you're mixing up why the Church gets involved. Mages just use "holy grail" in place of "wish granting device," they don't give a rip about who used it.
And ultimately that has nothing to do with how he's trying to say weapon with conceptual effects = conceptual weapon.
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Oh, I see. I thought there was some similarity since magi don't really care about "authenticity", so to speak.
How did that start anyway? It obviously predates the Fuyuki one since that's the 200-something grail the Church has kept tabs on.
True. Are all the Grails attempts to recapture the Third Magic? Were the Einzberns therefore responsible for all of them? Who else would make them, and what mechanism would they use to grant wishes? Finally, where is the original Grail, and how did it work?
I keep deleting my own messages, ffs
Anyway, speculation disclaimer on my part, but I remember reading the round table was after the grail (first ones I recall) and the knights templar (assuming they are a thing in nasuverse) could be the link between them and the church since they also search for the holy grail.
How closely to the Arthurian Grail Quest does the Nasuverse hew? If it closely follows that legend, then yes, the Knights of the Round Table did try and go for it at one point.
We know Galahad found it at least.
The problem with my speculation is if there's any connection between the round table and the church.
Well FSN does say the church just wants to basically keep an eye on all magic items that might be related to Jesus and similar stuff, which is why they investigate all possible holy grails
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It happened and Galahad got it.
FGO suggests that grails in general are tied to the Third. That doesn't mean that they're all attempts to get the Third, which is ostensively what the Fuyuki one in specific was about. And the mechanism is all the same: there is no mechanism for making wishes, they're all huge bundles of magical energy capable of carrying out a wish but that's not actually particularly tied to their actual purpose.
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