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    At that point there's not many people left is the issue

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    So I'm sure this has come up before but I'm not gonna dig through thousands of pages for it, what's the basis for Guillotine Breaker being a crystal horse? Crystal Palace too considering not only was it in London but it didn't even exist while Marie was alive.

    I really like Marie but her NPs are very confusing.

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    Quote from a book or something IIRC.

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    I remember Sakurai saying that Marie is pretty much based on the character from The Rose of Versailles
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zurvan View Post
    At that point there's not many people left is the issue
    The person saying that he'll win is Kotomine Kirei, who is famously trustworthy and would never set a man up just to watch him fall. Kotomine Kirei, who definitely is not secretly an enemy Master while saying that.

    Mind of Steel/Superhero/Seigi no Mikata is on Day 9. Rider's still around, although if Sakura's dead she might not be for much longer. True Assassin's around, although Saber dies on Day 8. Berserker is still around, as is Archer - they die on Day 10. I don't remember when the Shadow eats Gilgamesh and Lancer, but I think Gil might die after Day 9?

    So you're down Saber, Caster, maybe Rider and Lancer. Shirou's going to come into direct conflict with Rin and Archer, but might be able to ally with Illya and Berserker. Kotomine might still have Gilgamesh in his back pocket, and is the one telling the Servant-less Shirou "you're gonna win because you've become your dad now".


    The thing is, Mind of Steel happens fairly early on in the story. It's not like Sparks Liner High where it's almost at the end, this is Day 9 out of 16.

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    It's not just Kotomine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastXxx View Post
    Are Beasts part of the counter force?
    I always have a headcanon that Beasts are part of the Gaia counter force, and all the shit that is going in FGO is simply Gaia fighting against Alaya.

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    Why would Gaia want its surface erased
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    It's like with centaur girls, you're fucking a horse. Sure the human part is the one that moans but your dick is in the horse, no way around it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    Why would Gaia want its surface erased
    To regress the world back to Age of Gods, and to suppress Alaya from further deviating as part of Gaia.

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    Considering the purpose of True Ancestors, it kinda make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelBeowulf View Post
    To regress the world back to Age of Gods, and to suppress Alaya from further deviating as part of Gaia.

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    Considering the purpose of True Ancestors, it kinda make sense.
    It doesn't? Beasts are quite literally Evils of Humanity, where does Gaia fit in?

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    Gaia first got its surface burnt and now bleached white, that’s basically a counter guardian makeover.
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    Humanity was always a part of Gaia during ancient times, until the end age of gods. As Alaya and Gaia diverges in its mission to protect different being, conflict between the two system can arise. The counter force of both side can empower or send out agents to deal with matters they prioritize. What I'm saying is that just because Beast are born from humanity doesn't mean Gaia have no power over them. Hell, Primate Murder was called "The Beast of Gaia".

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelBeowulf View Post
    Hell, Primate Murder was called "The Beast of Gaia".
    I don't think Primate Murder is Beast IV in Tsuki.

    Hell, are there even Beasts in Tsuki Worlds? Since Beasts are born from humanity and humanity weak in those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neveron View Post
    The thing is, Mind of Steel happens fairly early on in the story. It's not like Sparks Liner High where it's almost at the end, this is Day 9 out of 16.
    Thematically, the Mind of Steel ending lasting for only a few days before Shirou is rendered to a bloody pulp by one of the remaining enemies would be highly unsatisfying. Dramatically speaking, it would be much more appropriate for him to win the Grail War and end up just as empty inside as the ending promises.

    I have no idea how he'd manage that, though. I guess that's what fanfiction is for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelBeowulf View Post
    Humanity was always a part of Gaia during ancient times, until the end age of gods. As Alaya and Gaia diverges in its mission to protect different being, conflict between the two system can arise. The counter force of both side can empower or send out agents to deal with matters they prioritize. What I'm saying is that just because Beast are born from humanity doesn't mean Gaia have no power over them. Hell, Primate Murder was called "The Beast of Gaia".
    Was it?

    Doesn't sound like it was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpoonyViking View Post
    Thematically, the Mind of Steel ending lasting for only a few days before Shirou is rendered to a bloody pulp by one of the remaining enemies would be highly unsatisfying. Dramatically speaking, it would be much more appropriate for him to win the Grail War and end up just as empty inside as the ending promises.

    I have no idea how he'd manage that, though. I guess that's what fanfiction is for.
    Precisely this; you could hardly say he "became a superhero" if he actually just died to the first powerful enemy he came across. What the game has told the reader about Kiritsugu's ultimate fate already makes clear why killing everyone Shirou knows to save a bunch of strangers isn't the optimal solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    Was it?

    Doesn't sound like it was.
    Is that even talking about PM, though?
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    Is that even talking about PM, though?
    It's not, that's why he bolded the other part of the quote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by savepoints View Post
    It's not, that's why he bolded the other part of the quote.
    Ah, I see it now. How stupid of me. That being said, it seems as if humanity was born from Gaia, but Gaia sensed it would break away rather soon, so...?
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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