Questions, questions and more questions (READ THE OP FOR ANSWERS)

[Duvie]

OH LAST QUESTION, i've been meaning to ask but alwasy forgot.

Why didnt the Reinforcment on kuzuki Dissapear when it got near saber, her magic resistance easly stopped countless of medeas High-thaumaturgies but didnt stop a reinforcment??

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

OH LAST QUESTION, i've been meaning to ask but alwasy forgot.

Why didnt the Reinforcment on kuzuki Dissapear when it got near saber, her magic resistance easly stopped countless of medeas High-thaumaturgies but didnt stop a reinforcment??

Because she wasn't technically the target?

[RoydGolden]

OH LAST QUESTION, i've been meaning to ask but alwasy forgot.

Why didnt the Reinforcment on kuzuki Dissapear when it got near saber, her magic resistance easly stopped countless of medeas High-thaumaturgies but didnt stop a reinforcment??

Magic Resistance only negates spells that are specifically directed against the Servant in question. Buff/Reinforcement spells don't count even if they're used offensively, since they're targeting the user rather than the enemy.

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Apparently Gau already explained the same thing in far fewer words.

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

I was under the impression that Concepts and Foundations were different things.


A kind mother I guess?

I'm personally not even sure what the deal is with dinosaurs.

For the first part, I dunno, that's just what I gathered from the giant infodump about foundations in the first Case Files volume because Waver stated that Angels are a particularly useful foundation for magecraft because their appeal is so widespread, yet no one really knows what they are, the perfect balance between ubiquity and mystery.

As for the latter, can't believe I forgot the Tsukihime prologue. That does answer things. Also, when Ivan fused himself with Sabertooth tigers and Woolly Mammoths, it was stated these were powerful ancient beasts and they gave him the power of a Divine Beast. Maybe dinosaurs are similar on account of their age.

[You]

It's just that stuff that's sacred in one culture might not be in another

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

It's just that stuff that's sacred in one culture might not be in another

I see. Thanks. Then what about the more magically-oriented foundations?

[You]

I see. Thanks. Then what about the more magically-oriented foundations?

Example?

[All fictions]

For the first part, I dunno, that's just what I gathered from the giant infodump about foundations in the first Case Files volume because Waver stated that Angels are a particularly useful foundation for magecraft because their appeal is so widespread, yet no one really knows what they are, the perfect balance between ubiquity and mystery.

From what I understood, it was that Concepts and Angels as Concepts are a thing of Modern Magecraft.

Relevant bits:

"Right. In that kind of meaning, it's used to generalize where your talents and weaknesses lie. There are also those with Double Elements, even some

Average Ones

monsters

with all Five Elements, but let's get back to the original topic. In short, the system of Elements was used as a system of classification out of convenience, but starting with the rise of modern Magecraft at the end of the 19th century, that's begun to change. With the addition of the Concept of Angels to the system, they have been given a new meaning."

"A new meaning?"

"Correct."

Later, you have sentences like "Angels in Modern Magecraft were just a label given to vague and ambiguous magical energies."

Maybe I'm misunderstanding it.

[Duvie]

Then what about enchanting a tree to make it do critical damage, then making it fall over on a servant :^) would that bypass magic resistance?

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

Example?

I dunno, I thought you were mostly referring to things like the Church's Sacramental Foundation when you answered my question. I was thinking things more like say the Tohsaka Family magecraft if that counts (I'm super uncertain in that regard). Honestly, I've confused myself.

[You]

I dunno, I thought you were mostly referring to things like the Church's Sacramental Foundation when you answered my question. I was thinking things more like say the Tohsaka Family magecraft if that counts (I'm super uncertain in that regard). Honestly, I've confused myself.

They incorporated humor theory from the eldefelts.
These concepts are like cultural assets.
The foundation is the culture.
And the exchange is cultural exchange.

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

They incorporated humor theory from the eldefelts.
These concepts are like cultural assets.
The foundation is the culture.
And the exchange is cultural exchange.

Ah, I see. So is there no strictly geographical element like a physical bond with an area's laylines?

[You]

Ah, I see. So is there no strictly geographical element like a physical bond with an area's laylines?

There is in most cases but as knowledge of the foundation spreads the spells can be used in the places that it has spread to albiet weaker because there is no land support.

[Duvie]

Because she wasn't technically the target?

Magic Resistance only negates spells that are specifically directed against the Servant in question. Buff/Reinforcement spells don't count even if they're used offensively, since they're targeting the user rather than the enemy.

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Apparently Gau already explained the same thing in far fewer words.

Mk So what if as an example, She enchanted a boulder and made the boulder fly at saber.
Would it like stop? or would it not deal damage?
or is that different.

[You]

It's like ordering Chinese food in China vs America.
There's still Chinese food but it's not really Chinese food

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

It's like ordering Chinese food in China vs America.
There's still Chinese food but it's not really Chinese food

Ah, thanks You! Really helped out.

[You]

Mk So what if as an example, She enchanted a boulder and made the boulder fly at saber.
Would it like stop? or would it not deal damage?
or is that different.

Saber would cut the bolder or Dodge.
MR would not defend against something like that

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

There is in most cases but as knowledge of the foundation spreads the spells can be used in the places that it has spread to albiet weaker because there is no land support.

Okay, so I was mostly right. That's about what I thought was the case.

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Mk So what if as an example, She enchanted a boulder and made the boulder fly at saber.
Would it like stop? or would it not deal damage?
or is that different.

Since You already answered your question, let me be straight with you. You have asked the same exact question 3 times in different forms. Inquisitiveness is definitely a plus, and hell I've definitely been this bad in my early days just 4 months ago, but still, use some common sense please.

[Duvie]

Okay, so I was mostly right. That's about what I thought was the case.

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Since You already answered your question, let me be straight with you. You have asked the same exact question 3 times in different forms. Inquisitiveness is definitely a plus, and hell I've definitely been this bad in my early days just 4 months ago, but still, use some common sense please.

I answered it? um.
I dont recall answering it. everything i said was a question.

"Mk So what if as an example, She enchanted a boulder and made the boulder fly at saber.
Would it like stop? or would it not deal damage?" <--- those question marks mean question.

Do you i mean i was correct with one of the two?

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Saber would cut the bolder or Dodge.
MR would not defend against something like that

Ah okay thank you.
and yea she would. Just checking if Mr would defend against something like that.
So it seems to nly work against magical spells targeted towards said person

[forumghost]

Saber would cut the bolder or Dodge.
MR would not defend against something like that

You never know, she might decide that the best way to deal with a rock being lobbed at her is to unleash Excalibur in a suburban neighborhood.