naturally, fujino simply reverses ea's rotation
Shiki counters the separation of heaven and earth by killing the distance between them.
Okay, but doesnt the fact that guda can solve said singularities proves that human will can overcome those limits? I mean, even in the shitty future of notes humanity found a way to survive pass the planets death.
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Does Gilgamesh have Excalibur in his vault? Like in Fate Stay Night Day 14, Oldest King, does he say he wants to take Excalibur or that he wants to take on Excalibur? Also whats the deal with divine constructs? Does he or does he not possess them in mass beyond EA.
そうだ
なに、遠慮はする事ないぞ
最強と呼ばれるその剣、一度味わってみたくもあったからな
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He has Merodach, which is the prototype for Excalibur iirc
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Oh well
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Excal and Clarent are both "swords that amplify" thus if Gil has to prototype for Clarent, he'd have to prototype for Excal.
If he does not have the prototype for Excal he can't have to prototype for Clarent either.
Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions IThough abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
From here: https://lparchive.org/Fatestay-night/Update%2098/Google translate got that one right, he actually says he wants to taste it, most definitely as in "see what it's worth".
Details and literal traduction:
そうだ / Sou da / Indeed.
なに、遠慮はする事ないぞ / Nani, enryo wa suru koto nai zo / Come on, there's no need to hold back.
最強と呼ばれるその剣、一度味わってみたくもあったからな / Saikyou to yobareru sono ken, ichido ajiwatte mitakumo atta kara na / This sword that is called the strongest, I have always wanted to get a taste of it.
Anyway yeah, he says he wants to see how strong it is, it's pretty clear. Looking at the translation by mirror moon I guess they forgot a little word:
They probably wanted to say "... I have always wanted to take ON the sword said to be the most powerful."
Is the above TL correct, You?
I thought big dick Caladbolg was already insinuated to be the prototype of Excalibur and then some.
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Originally Posted by successor of the Matou family
Yeah, the translation above is fine, grammar aside.
AFAIK actually I don't think there have ever been any outright examples of Gil possessing Divine Constructs so far?
It kinda goes against the concept of GoB being humanity's collective treasure chest if it also auto-collected artifacts that are considered a part of the gods themselves unless it was something he personally went out on an adventure to obtain and store during life, although that doesn't necessarily preclude owning the prototype of it with similar functionality.
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Originally Posted by successor of the Matou family
EA counts.
Plus there’s that Mat from CCC that says paradoxically all Np came from Gil or something because of his status as the first hero.
Divine constructs can have prototypes that aren't divine constructs themselves. Excalibur is an example of this. It has at least 2 potential prototypes. Caladbolg and Gram (as sometimes Excalibur's considered a reforged Caliburn). Gilgamesh doesn't have divine constructs outside of Ea and Enkidu unless we're counting Kaleid. He probably has corresponding, but inferior NPs. Think about how bad of a pothole it would be if GOB literally had the divine constructs themselves, when UBW was very clear that Ea was the only sword that wasn't in Shirou's UBW. Either UBW skimmed all of Gilgamesh's armory, which is the explanation that makes the most sense, or Shirou was creating all the NPs aside from the several dozen at the start from scratch, which is costly, and doesn't have the advantage that let him win against Gilgamesh, that being him requiring one less step than him.
I didn’t include Ea and Enkidu(?) since they’re both very obviously considered his and thought about mentioning Prillya too, but the two giant swords are both Sumerian related and could’ve been an addition from when he was alive although the source shouldn’t be used be used as a valid example nonetheless.
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Originally Posted by successor of the Matou family
What kind of plothole are you imagining here? How does Gil having Divine Constructs make UBW useless?
Let alone ignoring that Gil's prototype beats the descendant stuff in Fate. Or that UBW can't copy DCs either, and finds stuff outside of swords difficult to replicate.
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Originally Posted by successor of the Matou family
So like, his version of Vajra is just a cool lighting sword without the divinity?
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