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    Quote Originally Posted by Urameshi Yūsuke View Post
    What exactly is a regression to the age of gods?
    Is this a Tiamat question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urameshi Yūsuke View Post
    What exactly is a regression to the age of gods?
    Quote Originally Posted by 10th anniversary
    Q: What do the Quality/Quantity/Composition of Regression to the Age of Gods mean in Beowulf's profile? Do Ploys, Arcueid, and Heroic Spirits have such designations? And what would their number be?

    A: Regression to the Age of Gods represents the extend at which they are capable of reproducing the Mysteries that existed on Earth before True Magic. Consider it to be like that, their own style of Magical Circuits. Quality represents "how distant from what humans are capable of" their pure Mysteries are. Quantity represents power. The higher the quantity, the greater the degree of influence over the surrounding environment. Since Beowulf only has a quantity of C, he can only display his power to an individual, or over a village.

    Composition represents the era of the "Mystery". In terms of magecraft, it would be like Rune, Kabbalah, Black Magic and such.

    Ploys are not of Age of Gods, so they cannot be assigned a number in Regression to the Age of Gods.

    For Arcueid... Princess Arcueid should qualify. "Quality: B Quantity: A++ Composition: Before Common Era, pseudo-deified natural phenomenon"
    It's an ability that some things have that let you use AOG mysteries.
    It's what the Sea of Estray folk are studying.
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    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
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    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    It's an ability that some things have that let you use AOG mysteries.
    It's what the Sea of Estray folk are studying.
    I saw that on the wiki, but was sorta hoping for examples of it being in use, and what happened exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urameshi Yūsuke View Post
    I saw that on the wiki, but was sorta hoping for examples of it being in use, and what happened exactly.
    Spoiler:
    Lugh beowulf can shapeshift into any animal
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    Spoiler:
    Lugh beowulf can shapeshift into any animal
    Theoretically, would the idea of a regression to the age of gods that allows the dead to return, or awaken long dormant traits, be feasible?

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    I'd imagine so. Medea can brew some kind of potion of immortality, for instance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urameshi Yūsuke View Post
    Theoretically, would the idea of a regression to the age of gods that allows the dead to return, or awaken long dormant traits, be feasible?
    The thing with regression is less about what it can do, it can do anything that's been done mythologically, but rather whether the person or creature in question has the qualifications to have it.
    Usually, the things that have regressions are all from or linked to the AOG in some way. That or be a Sea of Estray magus.
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_mountain_30 View Post
    Need a clarification on a couple of things.

    Did LB5 establish that Textures also contain the heavenly bodies and planets relevant to the cosmology of that belief system?

    If so, then when Goetia erased thlse civilizations fia his burning of human history, does that mean that he also erased all those Textures and relevant heavenly bodies?

    (In the event that he didnt, would the success of his plan result in that outcome?)
    No takers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_mountain_30 View Post
    No takers?
    It's a very hard question.


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    I mean Ishtar has to go to the AoG version of Venus to fire it, so I guess the first question was answered a long time ago, in that Textures have the cosmology of the belief system that governs (?) them. Dunno about the second or third ones, maybe yes since Goetia wanted to remake the whole planet in his image.

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    I don't think he wanted to remake the whole planet, just humanity. Don't need to burn the heavens for that


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    Quote Originally Posted by the god of world-0 View Post
    I don't think he wanted to remake the whole planet, just humanity. Don't need to burn the heavens for that
    He was going to go to the past and literally become a planet to replace Earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urameshi Yūsuke View Post
    Theoretically, would the idea of a regression to the age of gods that allows the dead to return, or awaken long dormant traits, be feasible?
    Apparently Quetzalcoatl was actually killing the soldiers of Uruk, but she also just instantly revived them afterwards to add them to her army.

    Though, it might be easier with a physical Underworld where the souls of the dead are stored...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    He was going to go to the past and literally become a planet to replace Earth.
    So that is how he was gonna do it? To be real, never understood how he was gonna remake humanity. I just thought he was gonna make everyone be like him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by the god of world-0 View Post
    So that is how he was gonna do it? To be real, never understood how he was gonna remake humanity. I just thought he was gonna make everyone be like him.
    You thought he was going to make everyone flesh-puppets controlled by an extra-dimensional hive mind of demonic tentacles?

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    Reestablishing his purpose of serving humankind.
    The absolute proof that he is the most supreme of beings on the planet.
    Reaching the extreme that not even Solomon could acquire.
    Namely, the large undertaking of returning to God.

    "I shall kill the whole mankind. I must kill them. I must burn them. I must be the only one left on the surface of this planet. If you ask me why, then I shall answer you. That is because for you, it is the greatest meaning of existence, the ending with most worth."

    Goetia then dispatched the demon gods to the future, pounding into a great number of crumbling points within human history, and guide its foundation to disintegration.
    It appears that his goal is the erasure of humanity, but that is purely a means to the end. Goetia's goal is to "return to the beginning".

    He no longer hold any interest, be it to mankind or to the future.
    His desire is to go back before there was life on this planet, to go back to 4.6 billion years before, to observe the moment as the "celestial body" was born at this domain, and take in all of that energy.
    That is, he wants to make himself the "new celestial body".
    (From what did he start this reason and motive is told only on the original story on the game.)

    However, not even Goetia is capable of time travel.
    Soaring to the past requires an enormous amount of energy-----of magic energy.
    For example, the quantity of magic energy accumulated by certain intelligent lifeforms, flourishing for 2500 years.
    Should he able to convert the entirety of human history from 1000 BC to 2016 AD to magic energy, it will be enough magic energy to return and leap until the beginning of the planet.
    The destruction of mankind----the incineration is only for this one thing.
    For Goetia, mankind, from the time of his creation until the year of 2016, is no more than the first space rocket for the sake of returning to the sky of beginning.
    From Castor's TL on his Mats profile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forumghost View Post
    You thought he was going to make everyone flesh-puppets controlled by an extra-dimensional hive mind of demonic tentacles?
    Exactly

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    But apparently, his plan was actually crazier.


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    Quote Originally Posted by the god of world-0 View Post
    Exactly

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    But apparently, his plan was actually crazier.

    he wanted that TYPE previledge

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    Quote Originally Posted by AAM1232 View Post
    I mean Ishtar has to go to the AoG version of Venus to fire it, so I guess the first question was answered a long time ago, in that Textures have the cosmology of the belief system that governs (?) them.
    but are those planets as large as the real deal?

    as in, is Ishtar's Venus aa big as the one that Type Venus comes from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_mountain_30 View Post
    but are those planets as large as the real deal?

    as in, is Ishtar's Venus aa big as the one that Type Venus comes from?
    Probably not, who knows? It's not like the Sun in LB 2 was huge either, so size might vary per Texture.

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