It truly makes me wonder how far he went in the 3rd Grail War before deciding to steal the prize.
It truly makes me wonder how far he went in the 3rd Grail War before deciding to steal the prize.
"Only in my company, will you not be a monster"
anywhere than here
Pretty sure the answer is "not long" since he came across the grail on accident iirc
Localizationing stuff
TBF I think anyone summoning Siegfried would assume he would be a obedient servant and not suicide himself early on to save the life of a disposable battery which shouldn't have escaped in the first place
Would Gil theoretically have a prototype of lord camelot?
Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions IThough abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
IIRC the only things he seems to lack are like 'feat based' NPs, consider this statement for example.
But like the CCC matrix contradicts the statement, so Iunno, He says asset so presumably he means 'I dont have the prototype'
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With the way the keep adding shit to gils vault, soon he will have the root in it.
Life is short, we don't need to shitpost at eachother about nasu.
So if the NP is something like that then yeah he won't have that kind of legend, which makes sense since he owns Herc's legends like slaying the hydra and stuff cause original hero, but it'd feel weird if he owned "Herc himself".Originally Posted by Animation Elements
But as per CCC he probably has something that does the same or a similar thing anyway, so it's not like that matters much.
With the way the keep adding shit to gils vault, soon he will have the root in it.
Life is short, we don't need to shitpost at eachother about nasu.
With the way the keep adding shit to gils vault, soon he will have the root in it.
Life is short, we don't need to shitpost at eachother about nasu.
According to Complete Material III, the actual noble phantasm "Nine Lives" is the bow and arrow he used to kill the hydra, and what he does with other weapons is a technique with the same name, like how Lancer's spear is Gae Bulg but he has two different techniques he uses it for that are both also called Gae Bolg.
So I don't see why Gil wouldn't have the bow and arrow prototype.
Well I feel like this argument would require some things, since Is 9 lives the bow itself or the technique?
I mean unless the argument is that 9 lives the bow itself was a NP, since it seems to be more 'subsumed' like kazikeli or la pucelle.
Seems more like a combination, like maybe gil has the bow but not the style itself even though I dont really see the NP as something that exists as a object since it was devised by herc to kill the hydra.
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With the way the keep adding shit to gils vault, soon he will have the root in it.
Life is short, we don't need to shitpost at eachother about nasu.
It's just "the recreation of killing the hydra". Why would he not have that? He owns every legend unless the legend is the hero's life itself.
With the way the keep adding shit to gils vault, soon he will have the root in it.
Life is short, we don't need to shitpost at eachother about nasu.
And here I thought it was pretty clear what Gilgamesh had. Of course he complicates it.
Spoiler:
That a diss? Fine ill get out a quote that creates confusion.
from the extra CCC matrix about gilgamesh : King of Heroes
Another name for Gilgamesh. It does not mean a king who is a hero but is used with the implication that he is the king over heroes.
The story of Gilgamesh, is who mankind's oldest hero, is copied within the mythologies of all the countries of the world. The origin of all myths, the model on which heroes are based...calling him such would not be an exaggeration.
More or less, the heroes of various myths are derived from Gilgamesh's legend. As such, Gilgamesh possesses the prototypes of the Noble Phantasms that heroes carry... the original treasures from before every legend was arranged. Though it may be a paradox, unless the original, Gilgamesh, possesses it, it cannot be handed down as the Noble Phantasm possessed by the later heroes who were derived from him.
When humanity was still small. Within the treasury of the king, who governed his kingdom and lived in as much luxury as he desired, was collected every single treasure in the world.
Inside that treasury, there is the treasured swords that saved later heroes, and there is preserved the cursed swords that stole the lives of heroes.
The reason that Gilgamesh is called the King of Heroes is here. Noble Phantasms are primarily one to a any single hero. Not only does he possess an approximately infinite amount of them, he also owns the "legends" that other heroes are wake against, as if it were natural. It should be impossible for an average hero to cross swords with him.
As a Heroic Spirit, he is an absolute warrior in battles against Heroic Spirits. While there are several heroes who hold the title of king, such as the King of Knights and the King of Conquerors, but in regards to being crowned with the title "King of All Heroes," in all of heaven and earth, he is the only one.
With the way the keep adding shit to gils vault, soon he will have the root in it.
Life is short, we don't need to shitpost at eachother about nasu.