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[Mcjon01]

Are there any translations of Character Material 2? I can only find stuff for Character Material 1

Not Character Material 2, "Complete Material II: Character Material"

https://www.amazon.com/Fate-Complete.../dp/1772940135

It's translated and for sale

[castor212]

how exactly can the combination of Baptism Rite and Right and Left Hand sublimate a servant, technically speaking?

I know Baptism is specially designed to combat spirits although not the level of Servant
I know Left Right Hand is a 1) magical skeleton key that can connect to magical foundations and magical circuits and manipulate them and 2) have both variant of mind's eye.

so I know the profile said the Mind's Eye the one strenghtening his Baptism, but how exactly?

[asterism42]

I know he was able to use it to nuke Dracula because holy stuff is super effective against vampires.

[castor212]

yeah for that one its a given, but his profile said it could also works on Servants, not specifically darnicula kind of servants so im wondering the exact mechanism of that

[fumei]

He's talking about how it's stated that linking the baptism chant with his two NPs allows him to sublimate a servant. So basically, what do the hands add to it, and how?

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[Rafflesiac]

Maybe he hacks into the summoning ritual to unsummon them?

[madarra]

dont forget that church stuff is SUPER EFFECTIVE when 2 christians are involved like Shirou and Vlad

[castor212]

dont forget that church stuff is SUPER EFFECTIVE when 2 christians are involved like Shirou and Vlad

you miss the point

yeah for that one its a given, but his profile said it could also works on Servants, not specifically darnicula kind of servants so im wondering the exact mechanism of that

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He's talking about how it's stated that linking the baptism chant with his two NPs allows him to sublimate a servant. So basically, what do the hands add to it, and how?

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yeah p much this

like how is 2 variant of a skill to avoid danger makes of a stronger sacrament basically

[Clyton]

you miss the point



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yeah p much this

like how is 2 variant of a skill to avoid danger makes of a stronger sacrament basically

I don't think the focus should be on Eye of the Mind but the other abilities. Maybe because the Baptism Rite is a form of miracle, the arms are strengthening that miracle with Amakusa's own feats of miracles? Or maybe that instead of being able to use any magecraft, since the Baptism Rite is a magecraft he already possesses, the arms strengthens them instead? These are just speculations since I don't think what you're asking for is clearly stated anywhere.

[castor212]

the profile seems to be saying its the mind's eye that makes it happens, swhich was what makes me go ??? lol

Also, his right arm activates an ability similar to the skill “Eye of the Mind (True)” and his left arm activates an ability similar to “Eye of the Mind (False)”, which together strengthens his Baptism Rite.

[Arashi_Leonhart]

I don't think its spelled out, but how things are worded, I think you're supposed to get this impression that between one hand having an innate ability and one hand having an earned ability, together they are able to cover both paradigms and conjure a something of a minor miracle that includes the fact that the Baptism Rite isn't supposed to work on Servants, but it does now.

Like, he's a redpill in the Matrix, and although he has never been in a fist fight in his life, his arms allow him to get the Kung Fu program that is downloaded into his mind. But say he already knew martial arts to begin with, that knowledge would instead be additional material to what he already has. So this guy who was never a mage in life and had no natural aptitude for it can become a college graduate mage, but a guy who was already educated in religion and had natural aptitude in it gets boosted up to PhD.

[castor212]

so not so much the danger avoidance part, but more talent + effort + miracle! kinda thing, conceptually imposed on the Baptism Rite or smtg

hmm it makes sense in a way, but it feels p vague and iffy for me lol

[Arashi_Leonhart]

Its a kind of common religious motif to attribute things to the hands, right hand of god left hand of the devil, that sort of thing. I sort of got the impression from Amakusa that for him its supposed to be like "from this hand is the miracles that are attributed to me" and "from this hand are the things I actually did" and together they make up his Heroic Spirit-ness, while also playing with the duality of being sort of a religious figure and sort of not.

But don't quote me on that, we could get something that's like, lol no its just this, you're totally off.

[Clyton]

Its a kind of common religious motif to attribute things to the hands, right hand of god left hand of the devil, that sort of thing. I sort of got the impression from Amakusa that for him its supposed to be like "from this hand is the miracles that are attributed to me" and "from this hand are the things I actually did" and together they make up his Heroic Spirit-ness, while also playing with the duality of being sort of a religious figure and sort of not.

But don't quote me on that, we could get something that's like, lol no its just this, you're totally off.

I'll quote you anyways because I think it is the most sound reasoning based on what's already given that people can get behind. Even if the answer comes out to be something different, then so be it. But who knows how long until then?

[DAK]

I need help from someone who can read Japanese, I'm just curious what does it said, especially the last line.

Fate Grand Order Material I, about EMIYA and Extra Nameless.

Spoiler:

[Paitouch]

Though FSN and Extra Emiya are the same people, their backgrounds are different because of the divergence in their respective timelines during the 1970s. Nothing new, really.

[DAK]

Though FSN and Extra Emiya are the same people, their backgrounds are different because of the divergence in their respective timelines during the 1970s. Nothing new, really.

The fact that they come from two different timelines is new to me, do you know where is it mention before?

[Laserman]

Uh, the Fate/Extra game lol?

[You]

the profile seems to be saying its the mind's eye that makes it happens, swhich was what makes me go ??? lol

同時に右腕はスキル「心眼（真）」、左腕は「心眼（偽）」に類似した能力を発動させ、洗礼詠唱 を強化する。

meh
inno it sounds more like to me what is giving him eye of the mind (true) (fake) and eye of the mind (fake) (fake) also strengthens his baptismal sacrament.
and what gives him those two is probably more or less along the lines of what arashi is saying

[Sesto]

Would nobility/royalty of later centuries, say 17th or 18th century, know of the existence of magi? Would there still be some general overlap between the two groups?