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    Quote Originally Posted by SpoonyViking View Post
    Erik Bloodaxe...
    ...Who?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Skull View Post
    Two versions?(I checked out of the Extraverse after the first game so forgive my ignorance.)
    The Astolfo we have all this time is a mix of fictional Astolfo in Charles' stories and the real elite paladin Astolfo who was with Karl, that's why Karl was mad seeing the trap appearance and Astolfo had memories of being with Karl. Real Astolfo was morphed by fiction and changed into the one we see. He doesn't even have NPs in life, all were added retroactively to his record in the throne of heroes from the fictional accounts.

    This applies to the rest of the paladins.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lily Emilio View Post
    The Astolfo we have all this time is a mix of fictional Astolfo in Charles' stories and the real elite paladin Astolfo who was with Karl, that's why Karl was mad seeing the trap appearance and Astolfo had memories of being with Karl. Real Astolfo was morphed by fiction and changed into the one we see. He doesn't even have NPs in life, all were added retroactively to his record in the throne of heroes from the fictional accounts.

    This applies to the rest of the paladins.
    Oh, okay. So in the Nasuverse some version of Astolfo was a real historical person alongside Karl and the others. That makes a lot more sense now.


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    Yeah. You can think of their situation as complete opposite to Karl himself. All of them have fictional versions, however Karl is too rooted in reality that he got affected the least by fiction, to the point of cockblocking the summoning of that version. Meanwhile the other paladins did not have any real historical achievements so their real self were merged with fictional versions and that one now became their facet.


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    Whoa.. so many things still being discussed afterwards.

    So I understand that after Link's events, Karl der Grosse and Charlemagne will be considered to have separate Saint Graphs from then on, as history and fantasy aspects of the figure respectively, instead of just Karl der Grosse. But his Paladins remain rooted mostly to the fantasy given how famous they are in fictions.
    Last edited by OnesFleetingGlory; November 8th, 2019 at 05:04 PM.
    After finding out Charlemagne's VA, I can't help but imagining him and his Paladins doing something like this:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lily Emilio
    Meanwhile the other paladins did not have any real historical achievements so their real self were merged with fictional versions and that one now became their facet.
    Mmm... I doubt Nasu or any of the TM writers would go into the details of the Historical Paladins' lives, but if you follow the line of thinking that the IRL Matter of France's Astolfo was a corrupted Ecgfrith (based on comments about Astolfo's father) then it actually becomes rather sweet that at least the legendary Astolfo got to go on the adventures with Karl that Ecgfrith was denied by dying young of a disease.



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    Orlando Furioso being fictional but French Arthurian fanfiction actually happening is the strangest fucking thing

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    ^ If by chance I ever become a novelist, I know now to avoid the "All Myths are True" plot trope like the plague as you have to put so much effort into explaining stuff like this... x_x


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    Quote Originally Posted by CO9p5JMGv!p9 View Post
    Orlando Furioso being fictional but French Arthurian fanfiction actually happening is the strangest fucking thing
    is it?

    is it?!

    say that again, but slowly, so you can hear yourself saying it
    then tell me if it’s the strangest thing around here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zork Knight View Post
    Stiiiiill holding out for True Grand Caster Hermes Trismegistos

    Maybe something'll pop up in Greek LB?

    Thinking about it, the (hopefully) man has something to do with every bit of FGO doesn't he? Astrology (Chaldea), Alchemy (Atlas), Goetia (Goetia), Theurgy (Alien God?)
    You know considering most High Servants we got were triple fusions I could see Hermes Trismegistos to be some sort of High Servant Pseudo Servant like Sitonai.
    I dunno have it's summoning be related to Zepia somehow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skull View Post
    ^ If by chance I ever become a novelist, I know now to avoid the "All Myths are True" plot trope like the plague as you have to put so much effort into explaining stuff like this... x_x
    Or at the very least be selective about it so that mutually exclusive things are not simultaneously true. It basically necessitates the recontextualization of mythologies in an original framework.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    Would becoming a psuedo-servant to a divine spirit potentially effect the magic crests of the host magus since it is stated that magus dye their crests in the colors of their magecraft over the generations wouldn't hosting divine spirit potentially dye the crest the colour of the divine spirit's magecraft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skull View Post
    ...Who?

    Hey, apparently York still remembers him! :-P
    https://www.exploreyork.org.uk/blood...lenge-2018-19/
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    He Was a Good King (a Fate/Stay Night one-shot) - A short exploration of Beowulf's character as a hero and a king.
    A Fairy Tale of Love and Death (a Fate/Stay Night one-shot) - A meeting between Scáthach and King Hassan in the distant past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpoonyViking View Post
    Hey, apparently York still remembers him! :-P
    https://www.exploreyork.org.uk/blood...lenge-2018-19/
    My "who?" joke was in reference about your muddling of Erik (Le Fantôme de l'Opéra) with Eric (the Viking) rather than his obscurity.

    Quote Originally Posted by SpoonyViking
    Erik Bloodaxe...
    Last edited by Skull; November 10th, 2019 at 07:44 PM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CO9p5JMGv!p9 View Post
    Orlando Furioso being fictional but French Arthurian fanfiction actually happening is the strangest fucking thing
    There's some logic in it, I think. In a world where All Myths Are True, King Arthur gets in wholesale since there's no historical figures to wrangle in (although it remains to be seen what they do with Lucius). Saying that all the myths about Charlemagne are true, however, immediately has you run into contradictions since we know so much about the actual historical figure.

    People like to bring up FGO's Holmes Trial Quest to show that "see, they're probably all fictional and there's no proof they actually existed", but tend to ignore the bit near the end where Moriarty says "dude, mages totally have bits of the round table and a jar containing Roland's sanity and all kinds of physical evidence". Even Extella says that the "usual" Charles is more of a blend than the hard Fact vs. Fiction divide in the game, IIRC.

    Said trial quest also has a bit where Holmes implies that some of the more obviously "fictional" servants might be from an alternate timeline, although some others seem like they might be real people that just told their story to an author (e.g. Dantes and Dumas).

    I think the only time we've gotten someone explicitly no-doubts fictional is Kojirou?

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    Speaking of Dantes and Dumas, wasn't it mentioned that Dumas wrote the Count of Monte Cristo without his permission and one day he saw Dantes standing outside his house like he wanted to talk, or am I misremembering since it's been a while since I read FSF?

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    No, you're remembering it right.
    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reign View Post
    one day he saw Dantes standing outside his house like he wanted to talk, or am I misremembering since it's been a while since I read FSF?
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    No, you're remembering it right.
    He saved Dantes from something and then patched him up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    Or at the very least be selective about it so that mutually exclusive things are not simultaneously true. It basically necessitates the recontextualization of mythologies in an original framework.
    Fair point.

    Though the true mystery is how did all those genderbends have kids with their wives? Merlin must've been very busy...


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    After the Drama CD and stuff like that I get the feeling that Dantes was involved in a lot more stuff than the revenge plot in the novel.

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