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[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

Wasn't Bazett's family descended from Lugh at some point? Or is that just something I'm imagining?

I know they received a gift from the Gods to create Fragarachs and be able to pass on AoG magecraft with 100% accuracy or something like that, but I don't think they are related to Lugh.

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emperor of Japan

I see, but does it do anything, or is the position of Emperor and whatever magical power/Authority that entails enough?

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Queen Elizabeth II is also distantly descended from Odin if you believe her official family tree.

Is this an EXTRA fact?

[Reign]

They're talking about real life.

The Japanese imperial family is supposed to be descended from Amaterasu. I hadn't heard the Odin and British royals thing but I wouldn't be surprised.

[All fictions]

Is this an EXTRA fact?

Real life. Sorta.

Chroniclers of Germanic peoples traced the ancestry of their kings back to the god Wōden (Odin). If such descents were true, Queen Elizabeth II would be a descendant of Woden, via the kings of Wessex.[2]

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

They're talking about real life.

The Japanese imperial family is supposed to be descended from Amaterasu. I hadn't heard the Odin and British royals thing but I wouldn't be surprised.

I also was aware of the Japanese imperial family, and I too was surprised by Odin and the British royals. However, I was asking if that had any tangible effects in the Nasuverse.

[Iceblade44]

Not really. Well even in Servants its really hard to see some tangible effects.

[All fictions]

If you hang around some "bigger" groups of western fans you'll come to realize just how wrong they are about everything, so the fact that "this guy told me it's like this is it true" keeps coming up is no surprise at all.

Personally I think it's a bit silly to think that anything "mundane" doesn't have any mystic weight of it's own, since everything is magical based on how Type-Moon's setting works. It's just that it isn't artificially bloated with it like magic needs to be to actually have any effect...

everything is magical

Their entire Reality is alive in it's own unique way, and their Magecraft is accomplished by hacking into it. I don't see how that doesn't mean that everything is Mystical at it's core... It has to be, otherwise a vast majority of spells wouldn't be even capable of interacting with anything "Mundane".

Addendum: Just take a look at how Shirou's brand of Structural Analysis works! Reading an objects history requires for the information to be read from somewhere, which means the data is being automatically recorded somehow... everything has a fundamental spiritual component, it's just how their universe works.

That's just how the universe works(tm)

Shirou can use Structural Analysis on the World to reach the Root, discuss.

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

Not really. Well even in Servants its really hard to see some tangible effects.

Interesting. Don't Servants get some stat bonuses from Divinity? Also, so having Divine blood is different from having a Mystery from the AoG for sure, and there's no overlap?

[You]

Shirou can use Structural Analysis on the World to reach the Root, discuss.

The most top tier power in the nasuverse is the ability to know, to understand.
Even the MEDOP is analyzing something.
One reason Touko is called the Egg of a Magician is her ability to see through and grasp things.
So its quite possible for someone to reach the Root with Structural Analysis. But not Shirou because he's pretty limited.

But yeah what that person said is pretty not good.

[Iceblade44]

Interesting. Don't Servants get some stat bonuses from Divinity? Also, so having Divine blood is different from having a Mystery from the AoG for sure, and there's no overlap?

They get bonuses. But most of the time we don't know what said bonuses are. One of the few we know is Karna's. His gives him a defense boost against Sun Demigods lower then him in Divinity

[You]

Interesting. Don't Servants get some stat bonuses from Divinity? Also, so having Divine blood is different from having a Mystery from the AoG for sure, and there's no overlap?

Rather than boosts, it's like "the reason why these Servants have these stats and skills is because of their divinity."

[castor212]

why would this rando says mundane having zero mystic means mystic is incapable to act with anything mundane

it totes can, its just that when mundane tries hitting mystic its like your flubby arm with zero hardness meeting a rock with 100 hardness. its not like mystic would just go pass mundane like mundane isnt even there, and vice versa

i think this rando is confusing physical-spiritual connection with mundane-mystic connection

[All fictions]

Is this an EXTRA fact?

Coming back to this briefly, it's crazy realizing that Queen Elizabeth is apparently still alive and kicking at 100+ years old in Fate/Extra. Rip Prince Charles lol

One reason Touko is called the Egg of Magician is her ability to see through and grasp things.

I actually didn't know she was called that, so TIL.

[Lily Emilio]

The most top tier power in the nasuverse is the ability to know, to understand.
Even the MEDOP is analyzing something.
One reason Touko is called the Egg of Magician is her ability to see through and grasp things.

Yeah the top tiers almost always have certain abilities which allow them to see things, like super Clairvoyance of the Grand Casters, or Gil's world browsing, or Tamamo and her tails being able to see through the truth and principles of all things (she's the one doing analysis on Blue Particles for Hakuno team in Link lol).

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Interesting. Don't Servants get some stat bonuses from Divinity? Also, so having Divine blood is different from having a Mystery from the AoG for sure, and there's no overlap?

Divinity is placeholder for the rule of humans in the AoG.

[You]

why would this rando says mundane having zero mystic means mystic is incapable to act with anything mundane

it totes can, its just that when mundane tries hitting mystic its like your flubby arm with zero hardness meeting a rock with 100 hardness. its not like mystic would just go pass mundane like mundane isnt even there, and vice versa

i think this rando is confusing physical-spiritual connection with mundane-mystic connection

on reddit the rando is YOU

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

Divinity is placeholder for the rule of humans in the AoG.

I don't quite understand. You're telling me that any AoG-era human ruler had Divinity or am I horribly misunderstanding that?

[castor212]

on reddit the rando is YOU

What about on spacebattle

[Mcjon01]

What about on spacebattle

On spacebattles you need at least neighborhood level debate cred if you even want to get your foot in the door

[castor212]

I don't quite understand. You're telling me that any AoG-era human ruler had Divinity or am I horribly misunderstanding that?

Back in aog gods are your ruler
Having goddishness means youre qualified to be ruler

There wasnt law yet back in the days so divinity is used in place

I think this first came out on CCC
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On spacebattles you need at least neighborhood level debate cred if you even want to get your foot in the door

This one went past me
Im gomennasai

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

If a person in the modern age has some Divine ancestry, would this impact the quality of his or her magic circuits, his/her Origin, affinity, or anything of the sort?

[You]

If a person in the modern age has some Divine ancestry, would this impact the quality of his or her magic circuits, his/her Origin, affinity, or anything of the sort?

depends on the "some."
Natalia has enough succubus in her to give her powerz.
So sure if you have enough.