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    "I have a better opinion of you now, Rin. For you to kill Berserker even once.
    But it's too bad. Berserker won't disappear just from that, because he has a body that won't die unless he's killed twelve times."


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    12 lives (11 resurrections) -> killed 6 times by Archer -> 6 lives (5 resurrections) -> killed 1 time by Rin -> 5 lives (4 resurrections)

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    wait

    i dunno why im saying this but

    illya shoulda said 6 times the jewel then

    because

    before Rin assplode Herc, Herc has 6 lives (5rez)

    let's say Rin assplode her with A rank attack is 1 assplode

    1 assplode reduce 1 lives 1 rez

    Herc with 6 lives 5 rez gets 1 assplode ends up with 5 lives 4 rez

    if Rin used 5 times the jewel she used against Herc (6 lives 5 rez) instead 1

    which means 5*1 assplode which is 5 assplode

    Herc with 6 lives 5 rez gets 5 assplode ends up with 1 lives 0 rez

    just 5 times the jewel isnt enough! herc is still alive even though he has 0 rez!

    Illya shoulda said "you shouldve used 6 times the jewel" or "use 5 times again"!

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    One gem is 1.2 but since there are no fractional resurrections it rounds down to one life
    Five times the gems then is exactly six lives, he's dead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    One gem is 1.2 but since there are no fractional resurrections it rounds down to one life
    Five times the gems then is exactly six lives, he's dead
    It annoys me that this makes so much sense
    You've been doing this too long Mcjon
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    Rin with gems x10 vs Herc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    One gem is 1.2 but since there are no fractional resurrections it rounds down to one life
    Five times the gems then is exactly six lives, he's dead
    But didn't Rin use 4 gems for 1 life?

    Bullets of light are fired.
    Four jewels are used.
    The rapid fire from perfect point-blank range kills the black mad warrior for sure this time.


    No.
    It has splendidly, perfectly blown away his life.

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    So, theoretically, a Rin that’s been put on heavy life support with plasma infusions and steep in debt to afford x40 jewels could oneshot Herc is what you’re saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    One gem is 1.2 but since there are no fractional resurrections it rounds down to one life
    Five times the gems then is exactly six lives, he's dead
    you

    you son of a

    i cant even be mad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urameshi Yūsuke View Post
    But didn't Rin use 4 gems for 1 life?

    Bullets of light are fired.
    Four jewels are used.
    The rapid fire from perfect point-blank range kills the black mad warrior for sure this time.


    No.
    It has splendidly, perfectly blown away his life.
    replace 1 gem with 1 assplode
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobin View Post
    So, theoretically, a Rin that’s been put on heavy life support with plasma infusions and steep in debt to afford x40 jewels could oneshot Herc is what you’re saying.
    According to the LN and lore, yes it seems.

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    A rank explosions are strong.

    ...when they hit directly. Isn’t it sad Medea?

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    Two questions here.

    One, does Rule Breaker only break magical contracts like a Master-Servant contract, or does it also nullify spells and magical energy in general?

    Two, is Tokiomi's Fire Staff locked to him, or could Rin use it if she so chose?
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    I feel like you've asked that before.

    A Noble Phantasm with an ability clearly unlike that of the other Servants' Noble Phantasms. Its efficiency as a weapon is virtually nil, but it has the ability to "break" (as in, "violation of commandment" or "transgression of law") any magic on a target pierced by its blade. Targets that can be broken are contracts and life forms formed from magical energy. Rule Breaker can reset the condition of the target to the state before magic was used on it. In other words, magical contracts are wiped clean, and magical life forms are forcibly sublimated. Thus, its utility is quite limited, but it is extremely powerful within the context of the Servant system of the Holy Grail War.
    In practice, Medea successfully used this Noble Phantasm to nullify the contracts between other Masters and their Servants. For a time, Artoria and Emiya served Medea as her own Servants.
    You don't like stab magical energy or a fireball with it, no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post

    Two, is Tokiomi's Fire Staff locked to him, or could Rin use it if she so chose?
    Considering
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    Tokiomi said coldly as he lifted his Mystic Code and unleashed the craft of fire from the giant ruby embedded into its head.
    And in the ubw anime we saw the snake skin was broken.
    I've always wondered if Kotomine took the jewel from the mystic code and put it in the box.
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    I would have assumed he'd shattered the gem to crush Rin and/or Tokiomi's spirit.
    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    I just thought he sold it to pay off the debts from all his poor property management...

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    Quote Originally Posted by forumghost View Post
    I just thought he sold it to pay off the debts from all his poor property management...
    Which he intentionally screwed up so as to deprive Rin of her money, I'm pretty sure. It'd be in character.
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    You’ll just have to assume it as one of the casualties forgotten between the inconsistencies of FSN and F/Z. It’s notable for being a mystic code that contains a lifetime of Tokiomi’s magical energy and all that but otherwise it does just sound like a generic article that’s exists because it was appropriate for him to posses one.
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    My headcanon is that Rin attempted to make use of it but being the screwup that she is, she poured far too much energy into it at once and it blew up in her face and she was like "welp, guess I gotta start buying my own jewels now..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    Which he intentionally screwed up so as to deprive Rin of her money, I'm pretty sure. It'd be in character.
    actually that’s fanon. It may be true, may not be. The actual line is closer to “kirei didn’t know how to manage assets and squandered everything, but didn’t really care since he thought it would be good for rin to be poor”

    some people spin that to kirei intentionally wasted money, but it’s not actually stated to be the case
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    actually that’s fanon. It may be true, may not be. The actual line is closer to “kirei didn’t know how to manage assets and squandered everything, but didn’t really care since he thought it would be good for rin to be poor”

    some people spin that to kirei intentionally wasted money, but it’s not actually stated to be the case
    I know, that's why I said pretty sure and said it would be in character if he did.
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